Well, that's a personal interpretation, so at least be respectable about it, I'm not saying it was objective or anything, I just thought it was a good analysis.
That video was created from a biased view. As in, they played as joel and felt they needed to defend absolutely everything he does.
Most … morepeople would agree that, given the choice between killing someone and curing a disease which killed millions, or saving the person and allowing the disease to continue, and killing some of the best doctors left in the process, is morally wrong.
I got the feeling that Carol sees Daryl as more than a friend.
And when Daryl was with Beth, it seemed to me like something unique was growing between those two.
Beth's inner strength,that innocent quality she has about her, and her physical beauty; make her very appealing.
I think she is all three, especially with how she killed herself and cutting her wrists in front of Sophia. I guess Kirkman was trying to sa… morey that some people can't handle the circumstances and lose themselves in different ways, but yeah, I didn't like the character much at all. People complained the first season of the show because Carol wasnt "hot" like she is in the comic, but she is a much better character. Her storyline with Tyreese and the girls last season was great.
I know she does. She flirts with him openly. The problem is, he just laughs it off. That's what makes me thing Daryl is just not interested in her or maybe anyone. Carol, Michonne, and Beth have shown some kind of interest and he doesn't really respond much.
I got the feeling that Carol sees Daryl as more than a friend.
And when Daryl was with Beth, it seemed to me like something unique was gr… moreowing between those two.
Beth's inner strength,that innocent quality she has about her, and her physical beauty; make her very appealing.
I think Melissa McBride is actually an attractive lady.
Especially now that she's letting her hair grow out.
Of course ones like Andrea, Maggie, and Beth; are down right gorgeous.
But so is Carol.
She may be older, but she's still got it.
Hey let me ask you, out of curiosity, do think Carol is attractive?
Now ones like Andrea, Maggie, and Beth, that's a no-brainer.
But what … moreabout Carol?
Personally, now that she's allowing her hair to grow out, I think she looks cute.
The buzzcut she had early on looked horrible.
In fact, I don't think the buzzcut looks good on anyone, period.
But now, she looks cute.
Pert-near adorable, actually.
I hope not. I really like her character. And she is the only female survivor that is still alive from the original Atlanta group, so I want her to make it.
Well one thing you have to remember, Daryl had a very abusive childhood, as is evident by his scarred back.
The very ones who were suppose to help him to grow, failed him miserably.
So it's very natural that he will be very walled-off emotionally.
I think he may see Carol as the sister he never had.
I think she is the first person in his entire life, that ever took an interest in him as a person.
And then her interest in him grew to something more than just as friends.
Sadly, because of his being so screwed up emotionally, Daryl has hard time making that kind of connection, at this point.
Daryl, still has more growing to do.
But is evident that he does care for her.
He obviously took her apparent death in Season 3 hard.
And when Rick banished her, Daryl became furious, even though he knew she killed two of the groups members.
And as for Beth, Beth has been the only one, who got him to really open up.
I think that honestly Beth has been able to do him more good, than Carol was able to.
And the way they interacted with each other, I think there could've been something brewing between them.
I know she does. She flirts with him openly. The problem is, he just laughs it off. That's what makes me thing Daryl is just not interested … morein her or maybe anyone. Carol, Michonne, and Beth have shown some kind of interest and he doesn't really respond much.
idk. But I hope that people don't just immediately forgive her for what she did to those two people at the prison. That was just sick, no matter how she tried to justify it.
Agreed.
What Rick did to Shane was different.
Shane was actively trying to kill Rick.
Rick did what he had to do, not only did he protect himself, but others in the group.
Otherwise Shane would've not only killed Rick, but also killed anyone else who got in his way.
Like Hershel for example.
Carol, on the other hand, killed two sick, defenseless people.
These people meant her, nor anyone else no harm.
Her saying that she was like Rick, when Rick killed Shane, was bullshit.
I don't blame Rick for booting her out.
It was just like when Lee abandoned Lilly.
When Kenny and Lee killed Larry, it was because he presented a very real threat to the group, who were already in a precarious situation.
Lilly just killed Carly in anger.
And if she did that once, she'd do it again.
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
That's why Kenny stated: "If we let you come with us, how long before you get me!?"
idk. But I hope that people don't just immediately forgive her for what she did to those two people at the prison. That was just sick, no matter how she tried to justify it.
Not this season at least. In the trailers, we've seen that she'll be coming to help the group get out of Terminus, probably blowing a hole in the fence to let the walkers in.
Wow, people still bash Lilly for killing their waifu? I thought everyone who'd played Season One multiple times would remember why Larry was so important to her and that she, while doing the wrong thing, tried to protect the group, just like Carol did.
Agreed.
What Rick did to Shane was different.
Shane was actively trying to kill Rick.
Rick did what he had to do, not only did he protect… more himself, but others in the group.
Otherwise Shane would've not only killed Rick, but also killed anyone else who got in his way.
Like Hershel for example.
Carol, on the other hand, killed two sick, defenseless people.
These people meant her, nor anyone else no harm.
Her saying that she was like Rick, when Rick killed Shane, was bullshit.
I don't blame Rick for booting her out.
It was just like when Lee abandoned Lilly.
When Kenny and Lee killed Larry, it was because he presented a very real threat to the group, who were already in a precarious situation.
Lilly just killed Carly in anger.
And if she did that once, she'd do it again.
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
That's why Kenny stated: "If we let you come with us, how long before you get me!?"
It's one thing when somebody doesn't spoiler tag, for instance, Luke getting caught by the Howe's group before he can rescue anybody. That shit's been out for months and players who are that far behind are kind of browsing these pages at their own risk. If we were all being sticklers about spoiler tags in that scenario, the forum would be infuriatingly cluttered with them and would make much slower reading.
This ain't that. You know for a FACT that that isn't even out yet. Boo. Total dickmove.
Please remember to use spoiler tags even for the TV show.
I added one for now but please remember to use them again when talking about future episodes as some countries get episodes after it airs in America or some people might not get chance to see the episode for a few days and they might not want to see spoilers.
Please remember to use spoiler tags even for the TV show.
I added one for now but please remember to use them again when talking about fu… moreture episodes as some countries get episodes after it airs in America or some people might not get chance to see the episode for a few days and they might not want to see spoilers.
I hate to keep bringing this up but this hasnt even aired anywhere yet. Shes posting spoilers that have been leaked. I honestly wouldnt care if shed posted something from an episode already out as I'd be partially at fault. The picture shouldnt be on here at all
Please remember to use spoiler tags even for the TV show.
I added one for now but please remember to use them again when talking about fu… moreture episodes as some countries get episodes after it airs in America or some people might not get chance to see the episode for a few days and they might not want to see spoilers.
...and in some cases the episode in question won't have aired anywhere for any reason for another 2-10 weeks. The first thread I venture into today and @RosemaryTWDFan already has me too pissed to forum anymore.
Please remember to use spoiler tags even for the TV show.
I added one for now but please remember to use them again when talking about fu… moreture episodes as some countries get episodes after it airs in America or some people might not get chance to see the episode for a few days and they might not want to see spoilers.
I'm sorry if it spoilt the show for you and it also spoilt it for me but we don't know the context of the scene yet so hopefully that one photo doesn't spoil too much. Up until recently (S4 E8) the UK didn't get episodes of TWD until 5 days after it aired in America so there where constant spoilers on this forum and on other websites that i visited and Hershel's death got completely spoilt for me
...and in some cases the episode in question won't have aired anywhere for any reason for another 2-10 weeks. The first thread I venture into today and @RosemaryTWDFan already has me too pissed to forum anymore.
I'll see you guys tomorrow.
I'm sorry if it spoilt the show for you and it also spoilt it for me but we don't know the context of the scene yet so hopefully that one photo doesn't spoil too much. Up until recently (S4 E8) the UK didn't get episodes of TWD until 5 days after it aired in America so there where constant spoilers on this forum and on other websites that i visited and Hershel's death got completely spoilt for me
Im in the same boat as you and yeah if I get spoiled like that its annoying but I'm fine with that as the episode has aired and I should be avoiding all media involving the subject, this is different shes spoiled something that hasnt aired anywhere, anyone with an inch of common sense and decency concerning spoilers wouldnt do that, I'm prepared to give leeway to anything thats been aired anywhere
I'm sorry if it spoilt the show for you and it also spoilt it for me but we don't know the context of the scene yet so hopefully that one ph… moreoto doesn't spoil too much. Up until recently (S4 E8) the UK didn't get episodes of TWD until 5 days after it aired in America so there where constant spoilers on this forum and on other websites that i visited and Hershel's death got completely spoilt for me
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
Going by that logic, Kenny was a danger who needed to be thrown out of the group, and so was Lee long before he determinately helps kill Larry. Reasons don't matter, apparently. It's just "kill once, keep killing". That's too simplistic a view, especially in the setting this story is in.
Lilly killed Carley out of anger, yes, but did it in the name of protection of the group, no different from Kenny. Was she wrong? Of course, but she doesn't kill out of a psychopathic need to keep killing. Either both are cold-hearted murderers, or both are flawed human beings who acted without really thinking in high stress situations. Hint: The correct answer is the second one.
Agreed.
What Rick did to Shane was different.
Shane was actively trying to kill Rick.
Rick did what he had to do, not only did he protect… more himself, but others in the group.
Otherwise Shane would've not only killed Rick, but also killed anyone else who got in his way.
Like Hershel for example.
Carol, on the other hand, killed two sick, defenseless people.
These people meant her, nor anyone else no harm.
Her saying that she was like Rick, when Rick killed Shane, was bullshit.
I don't blame Rick for booting her out.
It was just like when Lee abandoned Lilly.
When Kenny and Lee killed Larry, it was because he presented a very real threat to the group, who were already in a precarious situation.
Lilly just killed Carly in anger.
And if she did that once, she'd do it again.
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
That's why Kenny stated: "If we let you come with us, how long before you get me!?"
The point, behind fact was: That killing changes a person.
For some, especially those who are in combat, it almost becomes a sport to them.
For others, no matter how many times they have to do it, it doesn't become any easier.
My uncle, who served in Vietnam during 1970-1971,( some of the most violent and bloodiest years in that war), stated to me over breakfast one morning: "It's not easy to kill."
So agreed, even though a person kills, does not mean they a murderer from the heart.
My uncle isn't.
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
Going by that logic, Kenny was a danger who neede… mored to be thrown out of the group, and so was Lee long before he determinately helps kill Larry. Reasons don't matter, apparently. It's just "kill once, keep killing". That's too simplistic a view, especially in the setting this story is in.
Lilly killed Carley out of anger, yes, but did it in the name of protection of the group, no different from Kenny. Was she wrong? Of course, but she doesn't kill out of a psychopathic need to keep killing. Either both are cold-hearted murderers, or both are flawed human beings who acted without really thinking in high stress situations. Hint: The correct answer is the second one.
Jesus Christ I'm sorry . I was just trying to show welcometowoodbarry that Carol might not be okay. Plus that might not even be used in the show, or deleted scene. Or that might not even be Carol.
I'm sorry if it spoilt the show for you and it also spoilt it for me but we don't know the context of the scene yet so hopefully that one ph… moreoto doesn't spoil too much. Up until recently (S4 E8) the UK didn't get episodes of TWD until 5 days after it aired in America so there where constant spoilers on this forum and on other websites that i visited and Hershel's death got completely spoilt for me
Im in the same boat as you and yeah if I get spoiled like that its annoying but I'm fine with that as the episode has aired and I should be avoiding all media involving the subject, this is different shes spoiled something that hasnt aired anywhere, anyone with an inch of common sense and decency concerning spoilers wouldnt do that, I'm prepared to give leeway to anything thats been aired anywhere
That's how I see it as well. Carol was just so clinical/emotionally detached in her actions, like she didn't even care that she killed two defenseless, sick people, and then proceeded to drag them out and burn them. She didn't seem to care about the act, only that she was caught by Rick. I was disgusted by her actions, which is why I don't care what happens to her. She has no morals, I think that kind of person is a danger to have in the group.
Agreed.
What Rick did to Shane was different.
Shane was actively trying to kill Rick.
Rick did what he had to do, not only did he protect… more himself, but others in the group.
Otherwise Shane would've not only killed Rick, but also killed anyone else who got in his way.
Like Hershel for example.
Carol, on the other hand, killed two sick, defenseless people.
These people meant her, nor anyone else no harm.
Her saying that she was like Rick, when Rick killed Shane, was bullshit.
I don't blame Rick for booting her out.
It was just like when Lee abandoned Lilly.
When Kenny and Lee killed Larry, it was because he presented a very real threat to the group, who were already in a precarious situation.
Lilly just killed Carly in anger.
And if she did that once, she'd do it again.
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
That's why Kenny stated: "If we let you come with us, how long before you get me!?"
That's how I see it as well. Carol was just so clinical/emotionally detached in her actions, like she didn't even care that she killed two d… moreefenseless, sick people, and then proceeded to drag them out and burn them. She didn't seem to care about the act, only that she was caught by Rick. I was disgusted by her actions, which is why I don't care what happens to her. She has no morals, I think that kind of person is a danger to have in the group.
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Well, that's a personal interpretation, so at least be respectable about it, I'm not saying it was objective or anything, I just thought it was a good analysis.
Watching the trailer, isn't she trying to save the group from Terminus?
If so, then she must still be a good guy(woman).
no problemo forum buddy
What does that have to do with what was being discussed?
I got the feeling that Carol sees Daryl as more than a friend.
And when Daryl was with Beth, it seemed to me like something unique was growing between those two.
Beth's inner strength,that innocent quality she has about her, and her physical beauty; make her very appealing.
Walter White, aka Heisenberg, became an antagonist.
But I do not see that in Rick.
Was she suppose to be bisexual in the comics?
I think Melissa McBride is actually an attractive lady.
Especially now that she's letting her hair grow out.
Of course ones like Andrea, Maggie, and Beth; are down right gorgeous.
But so is Carol.
She may be older, but she's still got it.
no she was just weird
I know she does. She flirts with him openly. The problem is, he just laughs it off. That's what makes me thing Daryl is just not interested in her or maybe anyone. Carol, Michonne, and Beth have shown some kind of interest and he doesn't really respond much.
And Michonne. When she smiles, she shows how pretty she is.
He can be an anti-hero, like Walter White from Breaking Bad
Everything.
Lol
Hell yeah, she's hot.
But she's just one of the hot females on the show.
I personally, do not find Michonne attractive.
Personally, black women don't do anything for me, no offense intended.
As a black woman myself, I'm not sure how to take that. Anyway, I think she's pretty.
Like I said, there was no hurtful intent in my comment.
Well according to this pic Carol gets hit by a car. This and other pics can be seen on the spoiling dead facebook page
Here's the pick:
You may want to use the SPOILER warning next time.
Ah, nice find. I also follow the spoiling dead. Spoilers are good.
Well one thing you have to remember, Daryl had a very abusive childhood, as is evident by his scarred back.
The very ones who were suppose to help him to grow, failed him miserably.
So it's very natural that he will be very walled-off emotionally.
I think he may see Carol as the sister he never had.
I think she is the first person in his entire life, that ever took an interest in him as a person.
And then her interest in him grew to something more than just as friends.
Sadly, because of his being so screwed up emotionally, Daryl has hard time making that kind of connection, at this point.
Daryl, still has more growing to do.
But is evident that he does care for her.
He obviously took her apparent death in Season 3 hard.
And when Rick banished her, Daryl became furious, even though he knew she killed two of the groups members.
And as for Beth, Beth has been the only one, who got him to really open up.
I think that honestly Beth has been able to do him more good, than Carol was able to.
And the way they interacted with each other, I think there could've been something brewing between them.
idk. But I hope that people don't just immediately forgive her for what she did to those two people at the prison. That was just sick, no matter how she tried to justify it.
Agreed.
What Rick did to Shane was different.
Shane was actively trying to kill Rick.
Rick did what he had to do, not only did he protect himself, but others in the group.
Otherwise Shane would've not only killed Rick, but also killed anyone else who got in his way.
Like Hershel for example.
Carol, on the other hand, killed two sick, defenseless people.
These people meant her, nor anyone else no harm.
Her saying that she was like Rick, when Rick killed Shane, was bullshit.
I don't blame Rick for booting her out.
It was just like when Lee abandoned Lilly.
When Kenny and Lee killed Larry, it was because he presented a very real threat to the group, who were already in a precarious situation.
Lilly just killed Carly in anger.
And if she did that once, she'd do it again.
People who kill once, won't hesitate to do so again, and that's a well known fact.
That's why Kenny stated: "If we let you come with us, how long before you get me!?"
Not this season at least. In the trailers, we've seen that she'll be coming to help the group get out of Terminus, probably blowing a hole in the fence to let the walkers in.
Wow, people still bash Lilly for killing their waifu? I thought everyone who'd played Season One multiple times would remember why Larry was so important to her and that she, while doing the wrong thing, tried to protect the group, just like Carol did.
Do you mind with the spoilers shit? I mean lets face it shes probably fine but still
F'ing not cool. Spoiler alerts, please!
It's one thing when somebody doesn't spoiler tag, for instance, Luke getting caught by the Howe's group before he can rescue anybody. That shit's been out for months and players who are that far behind are kind of browsing these pages at their own risk. If we were all being sticklers about spoiler tags in that scenario, the forum would be infuriatingly cluttered with them and would make much slower reading.
This ain't that. You know for a FACT that that isn't even out yet. Boo. Total dickmove.
Please remember to use spoiler tags even for the TV show.
I added one for now but please remember to use them again when talking about future episodes as some countries get episodes after it airs in America or some people might not get chance to see the episode for a few days and they might not want to see spoilers.
Thanks.
I hate when someone possibly ruins something for another person.
I hate to keep bringing this up but this hasnt even aired anywhere yet. Shes posting spoilers that have been leaked. I honestly wouldnt care if shed posted something from an episode already out as I'd be partially at fault. The picture shouldnt be on here at all
...and in some cases the episode in question won't have aired anywhere for any reason for another 2-10 weeks. The first thread I venture into today and @RosemaryTWDFan already has me too pissed to forum anymore.
I'll see you guys tomorrow.
I'm sorry if it spoilt the show for you and it also spoilt it for me but we don't know the context of the scene yet so hopefully that one photo doesn't spoil too much. Up until recently (S4 E8) the UK didn't get episodes of TWD until 5 days after it aired in America so there where constant spoilers on this forum and on other websites that i visited and Hershel's death got completely spoilt for me
Im in the same boat as you and yeah if I get spoiled like that its annoying but I'm fine with that as the episode has aired and I should be avoiding all media involving the subject, this is different shes spoiled something that hasnt aired anywhere, anyone with an inch of common sense and decency concerning spoilers wouldnt do that, I'm prepared to give leeway to anything thats been aired anywhere
Going by that logic, Kenny was a danger who needed to be thrown out of the group, and so was Lee long before he determinately helps kill Larry. Reasons don't matter, apparently. It's just "kill once, keep killing". That's too simplistic a view, especially in the setting this story is in.
Lilly killed Carley out of anger, yes, but did it in the name of protection of the group, no different from Kenny. Was she wrong? Of course, but she doesn't kill out of a psychopathic need to keep killing. Either both are cold-hearted murderers, or both are flawed human beings who acted without really thinking in high stress situations. Hint: The correct answer is the second one.
The point, behind fact was: That killing changes a person.
For some, especially those who are in combat, it almost becomes a sport to them.
For others, no matter how many times they have to do it, it doesn't become any easier.
My uncle, who served in Vietnam during 1970-1971,( some of the most violent and bloodiest years in that war), stated to me over breakfast one morning: "It's not easy to kill."
So agreed, even though a person kills, does not mean they a murderer from the heart.
My uncle isn't.
Jesus Christ I'm sorry
. I was just trying to show welcometowoodbarry that Carol might not be okay. Plus that might not even be used in the show, or deleted scene. Or that might not even be Carol.
That's how I see it as well. Carol was just so clinical/emotionally detached in her actions, like she didn't even care that she killed two defenseless, sick people, and then proceeded to drag them out and burn them. She didn't seem to care about the act, only that she was caught by Rick. I was disgusted by her actions, which is why I don't care what happens to her. She has no morals, I think that kind of person is a danger to have in the group.
double post.
Luke, she is becoming a danger to the group.