Why do people despise Larry so much?

Larry seems to be one of TWD's most hated characters and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Sure, he attacked Lee, and sure, he was a grumpy asshole... But did you ever stop to consider why?

This guy was a tough, grizzled war veteran who was likely an NCO taking into account his overall mannerisms. There's an aura of experience about him, and his proud background resulted in resentment for murderers and probably criminals in general. His prejudice against Lee was perfectly understandable. He obviously adored Lilly and wanted all threats to her eliminated, because of the immense love he had for her.

Think about it for a moment... He's a veteran. In an optional conversation Lilly states that he lost everything, and that he blanketed his anxieties and sorrow with a hateful shell just so that he could cope with himself; Hell, he might have even had friends die in his arms... He didn't want that happening to Lilly, the only thing left in his life, and so he was ruthless. He even expressed concern for Clementine and the fact a convict was looking after her. He's truly not as heartless as you might think.

He's even apologetic towards you if you understand him and treat him well. Give the man a break, he's got charm coming out of his ass. It's not like he shot a little girl. cough Fuck Arvo. cough

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  • edited September 2014

    I don't really think being a veteran gives you an excuse to be abusive to your fellow survivors.

    I'm not at all a fan of the military anyway, so unless he was drafted, his role as a soldier makes me like him even less.

  • He probably lost friends, even before the ZA. He was most likely a loving man at one point.

    I don't really think being a veteran gives you an excuse to be abusive to your fellow survivors. I'm not at all a fan of the military anyway, so unless he was drafted, his role as a soldier makes me like him even less.

  • edited September 2014

    Maybe he was but everybody lost friends and family and they are no douchebags like him.

    Hazzer posted: »

    He probably lost friends, even before the ZA. He was most likely a loving man at one point.

  • Larry was one of my favourite characters from Season 1, so I don't hate him.

  • Sucks for him, but those are old wounds that have had time to heal.

    Lee had to smash his own brother's head in, and he never acted out against anyone else for it.

    Hazzer posted: »

    He probably lost friends, even before the ZA. He was most likely a loving man at one point.

  • Everyone reacts to pain and loss differently. I believe Lilly when she says he wasn't always bad, they obviously shared a close bond. He cared.

    Sucks for him, but those are old wounds that have had time to heal. Lee had to smash his own brother's head in, and he never acted out against anyone else for it.

  • If he fought in war, isn't it likely he is also a murderer? So why so much disdain for Lee?

  • I liked him, he was clearly intended to be a villan but he felt human, same as Arvo and Troy etc.

    Carver was just poorly done past ep 2, he felt cartoonish when he had the capacity to be a real alternative.

  • There's no 'honour' in killing someone who slept with your wife, and it's unnecessary. I dunno what wars Larry may have been involved in, but chances are he was helping locals or trying to keep order. No 'murder' involved. Fighting a war is not murder.

    sprocket23 posted: »

    If he fought in war, isn't it likely he is also a murderer? So why so much disdain for Lee?

  • He was kind of the funny grumpy old man to me that i enjoyed pissing off.. never really hated him.

  • I agree.

    I liked him, he was clearly intended to be a villan but he felt human, same as Arvo and Troy etc. Carver was just poorly done past ep 2, he felt cartoonish when he had the capacity to be a real alternative.

  • Not sure if serious

    You know there are more casualties than targets killed in war right?

    Hazzer posted: »

    There's no 'honour' in killing someone who slept with your wife, and it's unnecessary. I dunno what wars Larry may have been involved in, bu

  • No shit.

    Not sure if serious You know there are more casualties than targets killed in war right?

  • carver was probably a nice man too once, but that doesn't mean what he did is okay, the same goes for Larry

  • Larry never did anything remotely comparable to Carver. He just looked out for his daughter.

    carver was probably a nice man too once, but that doesn't mean what he did is okay, the same goes for Larry

  • he punched a man and left him for death, i know he's not as bad as Carver, but what he did is still not okay

    Hazzer posted: »

    Larry never did anything remotely comparable to Carver. He just looked out for his daughter.

  • Never claimed it was okay, but his reasoning was sound. Lee was a convict and therefore a threat to his daughter.

    he punched a man and left him for death, i know he's not as bad as Carver, but what he did is still not okay

  • I like Larry. He obviously had his priorities straight and he was a good man who just wanted to protect his daughter.

  • I never hated Larry. In fact, I tried to save him back in the meat locker. I mean the way he acted was never okay, but I think deep down he was still a good guy and he was super useful to have around (guy was a POWER HOUSE aside from his heart condition). But you could see rare moments that he was still human despite his attitude - the way he flirted with Brenda St. John (I think that was her name), the love he had for his daughter, and his wife's wedding band that he carried in his pocket.

  • "He's just an old racist asshole."--Lee Everett

  • "He's just looking out for his daughter." - Lee Everett

    "He's just an old racist asshole."--Lee Everett

  • Lee clearly showed that he wasn't a danger, he helped Larry get his meds (only reason why he survived) he took care of a lost little girl. Even the biggest of idiots would be able to figure out that he wasn't a danger, but Larry still tried to kill him. Lee saved his fucking life and he gets repayed with death? thats not in no way alright (IMO)

    Hazzer posted: »

    Never claimed it was okay, but his reasoning was sound. Lee was a convict and therefore a threat to his daughter.

  • I did a small play-through trying to get Larry to like me as much as possible (accomplishing other stuff as well), but when that optional conversation in the meat locker happens he still has a problem with Lee. He just does not have it in him to like Lee, but as a character in this game I though he was well done.

  • edited September 2014

    Yeah, but he probably killed people in the war. Intentionally killing people, even if justified, is still murder.

    Hazzer posted: »

    There's no 'honour' in killing someone who slept with your wife, and it's unnecessary. I dunno what wars Larry may have been involved in, bu

  • "Sit down! Or else...!" - Lee everett

    Hazzer posted: »

    "He's just looking out for his daughter." - Lee Everett

  • I understand Larry, he knew Lee was a murderer and was just protecting his daughter, as a soldier and the stuff he may have seen, you have to give him a bit of understanding. He was probably a sociable guy before, and the apocalypse would change anyone, but as a good guy once said:

    "Bad things happen to everyone, and it's hard to keep being yourself after they do"

    So, yeah, I sided against Larry in the drugstore, and he didn't like me, but I still tried to save him. He was a father who had maybe seen death all his life either as a soldier and/or the apocalypse. The only thing he wanted to do was to make sure his daughter was safe.

    Would any of you act differently if a murderer started talking your daughter?

  • Well said.

    I understand Larry, he knew Lee was a murderer and was just protecting his daughter, as a soldier and the stuff he may have seen, you have t

  • "Mmm. Pointy." - Lee Everett

    lee4life posted: »

    "Sit down! Or else...!" - Lee everett

  • He almost killed Lee duhh.

  • funny that you stop replying after you got no more arguments :P

    Hazzer posted: »

    Never claimed it was okay, but his reasoning was sound. Lee was a convict and therefore a threat to his daughter.

  • When does he say that? I forgot :P

    "Mmm. Pointy." - Lee Everett

  • On the dairy farm when you look at the fence.

    lee4life posted: »

    When does he say that? I forgot :P

  • Oh , ok. Thanks

    On the dairy farm when you look at the fence.

  • "That guy's a piece of shit anyways."-Lee Everett

    Hazzer posted: »

    "He's just looking out for his daughter." - Lee Everett

  • "Hey , you're not helping by riling him up" - Mark

    "That guy's a piece of shit anyways."-Lee Everett

  • "And what are you gonna do about it?" - larry

    Mark: Come on, Larry. Give it a rest. Being racist is outdated. Larry: Is that what you think this is? looks at Lee Is that what you told him? Lee: Yeah, that's right!

  • Mark: Come on, Larry. Give it a rest. Being racist is outdated.

    Larry: Is that what you think this is? looks at Lee Is that what you told him?

    Lee: Yeah, that's right!

    lee4life posted: »

    "Hey , you're not helping by riling him up" - Mark

  • edited September 2014

    I didn't care what he did to Lee. In a way, I got it. I'm guessing not a lot of people want a convicted killer hanging around their daugher. What made me mad at him was how he just wanted to throw a fucking child to the walkers without giving it a second thought.

  • I liked Larry. I never went with Kenny's plan to kill Larry. In any play through i ever played. Larry has shell shock give him a break. He might be a jerk, he still is , but doesn't mean i wanted him to die. He was Lilly's rock, and we all saw what happened when that boat sank.

  • Bro there's no "honour" at all when you kill someone.
    To quote lee: "killing is bad no matter what"

    Hazzer posted: »

    There's no 'honour' in killing someone who slept with your wife, and it's unnecessary. I dunno what wars Larry may have been involved in, bu

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