What about the part where he wanted to throw Duck out to the walkers because he was covered in muck? He wasn't even willing to see if Duck had been bitten, he just wanted to throw a 10 year old out in the streets to be eaten alive in front of that same child's parents based solely on the suspicion that he might be bitten. He was telling the group that they should smash Duck's head in right in front of Duck. There was no remorse or hesitation, he was willing to kill a child just to save himself. THAT is why I hate Larry. There's nothing that gives you the right to murder children. I don't care what he's gone through, that moment made me hate him. He even verbally tortured Duck by telling him that he was about to become a walker: "Hey little boy, before you eat your mommy, you get to see your Dad get his nose broken." Yeah, Larry is a Grade-A asshole.
What about the part where he wanted to throw Duck out to the walkers because he was covered in muck? He wasn't even willing to see if Duck h… moread been bitten, he just wanted to throw a 10 year old out in the streets to be eaten alive in front of that same child's parents based solely on the suspicion that he might be bitten. He was telling the group that they should smash Duck's head in right in front of Duck. There was no remorse or hesitation, he was willing to kill a child just to save himself. THAT is why I hate Larry. There's nothing that gives you the right to murder children. I don't care what he's gone through, that moment made me hate him. He even verbally tortured Duck by telling him that he was about to become a walker: "Hey little boy, before you eat your mommy, you get to see your Dad get his nose broken." Yeah, Larry is a Grade-A asshole.
O_O Bro, I've got better things to do than stare at these forums all day. I'm a college student so unlike you I like to occasionally study rather than start up retarded Shrek threads. My point is Larry wasn't a complete monster, he just had extremist views to maximise his daughter's safety. I dislike his attitude, but don't share the hate most people have for him. No need to be a prick during a civilized discussion, mate. Aggression plagues this forum.
Yeah, that's a scumbag move. Duck was scared enough when he almost got bit. Poor kid didn't need to get verbally tortured by some old codger who thinks he's the only one who's lost someone. That moment was the same for me. At that point right there, I hated him. Everything else he's done like trying to leave Lee for dead and treating Lee and the group like shit made me hate him even more. I don't care if he was "trying to protect his daughter", he had no right to make everyone else feel miserable. I saved his sorry ass by risking my life to get him those pills, and THAT'S how he repays me? Punching me in the face and leaving me for dead? Fuck that guy!
What about the part where he wanted to throw Duck out to the walkers because he was covered in muck? He wasn't even willing to see if Duck h… moread been bitten, he just wanted to throw a 10 year old out in the streets to be eaten alive in front of that same child's parents based solely on the suspicion that he might be bitten. He was telling the group that they should smash Duck's head in right in front of Duck. There was no remorse or hesitation, he was willing to kill a child just to save himself. THAT is why I hate Larry. There's nothing that gives you the right to murder children. I don't care what he's gone through, that moment made me hate him. He even verbally tortured Duck by telling him that he was about to become a walker: "Hey little boy, before you eat your mommy, you get to see your Dad get his nose broken." Yeah, Larry is a Grade-A asshole.
Yeah, that's a scumbag move. Duck was scared enough when he almost got bit. Poor kid didn't need to get verbally tortured by some old codger… more who thinks he's the only one who's lost someone. That moment was the same for me. At that point right there, I hated him. Everything else he's done like trying to leave Lee for dead and treating Lee and the group like shit made me hate him even more. I don't care if he was "trying to protect his daughter", he had no right to make everyone else feel miserable. I saved his sorry ass by risking my life to get him those pills, and THAT'S how he repays me? Punching me in the face and leaving me for dead? Fuck that guy!
There is no honor in killing at all. I'd actually argue that joining the military is worse than simple murder (in some cases). It's a job that literally requires you to kill people.
Go to foreign country; kill the 'enemy'. That's the goal.
Essentially, soldiers are the government's hitmen. The 'enemy' on the other side of the battlefield want to get out alive just as much as people on 'our' side do. I fail to see where the honor comes into play when you make a wife into a widow by killing these people.
While what Lee did was wrong, I can easily forgive him for it. Not only does he redeem himself by taking care of Clementine, I imagine the murder itself wan't as black-and-white as we think. It could have been an 'in the moment' kind of thing. Lee doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would kill if he thought things through first. Hell, it could have been a manslaughter case, or maybe the dude attacked Lee first. Who knows?
Lee's situation is a little vague, so I don't feel it's right to pass judgement on him anyways.
There's no 'honour' in killing someone who slept with your wife, and it's unnecessary. I dunno what wars Larry may have been involved in, bu… moret chances are he was helping locals or trying to keep order. No 'murder' involved. Fighting a war is not murder.
And in the end he was just talk. Even when he thought that Duck was bitten he didn't actually do anything to him and once he realizes that the boy isn't bitten, he doesn't try to get rid of him anymore.
In my books Larry is a decent person compared to those who actually did kill other group members in similar situations.
What about the part where he wanted to throw Duck out to the walkers because he was covered in muck? He wasn't even willing to see if Duck h… moread been bitten, he just wanted to throw a 10 year old out in the streets to be eaten alive in front of that same child's parents based solely on the suspicion that he might be bitten. He was telling the group that they should smash Duck's head in right in front of Duck. There was no remorse or hesitation, he was willing to kill a child just to save himself. THAT is why I hate Larry. There's nothing that gives you the right to murder children. I don't care what he's gone through, that moment made me hate him. He even verbally tortured Duck by telling him that he was about to become a walker: "Hey little boy, before you eat your mommy, you get to see your Dad get his nose broken." Yeah, Larry is a Grade-A asshole.
If it weren't for Kenny (and determinantly Lee) Larry would have thrown Duck out immediately. He even moves toward Duck at the beginning of the argument and only stops because Kenny physically blocks him. He didn't do anything to Duck after it was revealed he wasn't bitten because there was no reason to, as Duck wasn't bitten. The thing is though, he wasn't even going to check for a bite. He was up and ready to kill a child based on the suspicion that they MIGHT be bit, then verbally abused Duck and his parents when, shocker, they didn't want to let their only son be torn apart by walking corpses. It wouldn't have been "Just talk" had Larry been allowed to get his hands on Duck. Thankfully Kenny (and determinantly Lee) kept that from happening.
And in the end he was just talk. Even when he thought that Duck was bitten he didn't actually do anything to him and once he realizes that t… morehe boy isn't bitten, he doesn't try to get rid of him anymore.
In my books Larry is a decent person compared to those who actually did kill other group members in similar situations.
If it weren't for Kenny (and determinantly Lee) Larry would have thrown Duck out immediately. He even moves toward Duck at the beginning of … morethe argument and only stops because Kenny physically blocks him. He didn't do anything to Duck after it was revealed he wasn't bitten because there was no reason to, as Duck wasn't bitten. The thing is though, he wasn't even going to check for a bite. He was up and ready to kill a child based on the suspicion that they MIGHT be bit, then verbally abused Duck and his parents when, shocker, they didn't want to let their only son be torn apart by walking corpses. It wouldn't have been "Just talk" had Larry been allowed to get his hands on Duck. Thankfully Kenny (and determinantly Lee) kept that from happening.
At most soldiers kill terrorists or insurgents, and that's hardly their main purpose. They stabilise tortured populace's such as Assad's in Syria or those controlled by warlords in Somalia. Reducing hundreds and thousands of brave men and women into 'hitmen' is grossly narrow-minded... There's always collateral damage, but is it right to sit back and let entire cultures kill each other?
There is no honor in killing at all. I'd actually argue that joining the military is worse than simple murder (in some cases). It's a job th… moreat literally requires you to kill people.
Go to foreign country; kill the 'enemy'. That's the goal.
Essentially, soldiers are the government's hitmen. The 'enemy' on the other side of the battlefield want to get out alive just as much as people on 'our' side do. I fail to see where the honor comes into play when you make a wife into a widow by killing these people.
While what Lee did was wrong, I can easily forgive him for it. Not only does he redeem himself by taking care of Clementine, I imagine the murder itself wan't as black-and-white as we think. It could have been an 'in the moment' kind of thing. Lee doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would kill if he thought things through first. Hell, it could have been a manslaughter case, or maybe the dude attacked Lee first. Who knows?
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Unacceptable yet understandable, unlike Carver's behaviour for example. There were good intentions buried beneath that intimidating demeanour of his. He was an ass but I just see all the logical reasoning behind his actions, in the same way I feel sympathy for Shane Walsh.
Yes, he wanted to kick Duck out instead of taking risks. That's relatively normal behaviour during the zombie apocalypse, when you encounter strangers. You don't take the bitten people inside. He had no reason to trust to Kenny or Lee, so he argued with them. Sure, I admit that he wasn't polite, but at least he didn't murder anyone in front of their family members.
If it weren't for Kenny (and determinantly Lee) Larry would have thrown Duck out immediately. He even moves toward Duck at the beginning of … morethe argument and only stops because Kenny physically blocks him. He didn't do anything to Duck after it was revealed he wasn't bitten because there was no reason to, as Duck wasn't bitten. The thing is though, he wasn't even going to check for a bite. He was up and ready to kill a child based on the suspicion that they MIGHT be bit, then verbally abused Duck and his parents when, shocker, they didn't want to let their only son be torn apart by walking corpses. It wouldn't have been "Just talk" had Larry been allowed to get his hands on Duck. Thankfully Kenny (and determinantly Lee) kept that from happening.
Just as an example. Civilians are killed because of American soldiers. Please remember this.
Anyway, my point is that if you sign up to go to war, not only do you support horrid crimes such as this, you run the risk of having to do these awful things yourself.
Signing up to kill people is immoral, period. The person's background is irrelevant. The average soldier doesn't know who they're shooting at, they just shoot.
Anyway, I'm gonna stop this particular discussion here as it's starting to lean more towards a political debate than that of a TWD discussion.
At most soldiers kill terrorists or insurgents, and that's hardly their main purpose. They stabilise tortured populace's such as Assad's in … moreSyria or those controlled by warlords in Somalia. Reducing hundreds and thousands of brave men and women into 'hitmen' is grossly narrow-minded... There's always collateral damage, but is it right to sit back and let entire cultures kill each other?
I'm just slightly disgusted by how you can think less of military personnel due to the actions of a few sociopathic bad eggs. There are many reasons for someone to join the services, and killing people is not one of them. I've had family and friends in the army, Royal Marines and Royal Air Force. None have killed anyone. All are great people. You're clueless, sorry.
"At most soldiers kill terrorists or insurgents,"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2006-mass-murder-of-iraqi-civilians-by-us-forces-evide… morence-of-unspeakable-war-crimes/5320763
Just as an example. Civilians are killed because of American soldiers. Please remember this.
Anyway, my point is that if you sign up to go to war, not only do you support horrid crimes such as this, you run the risk of having to do these awful things yourself.
Signing up to kill people is immoral, period. The person's background is irrelevant. The average soldier doesn't know who they're shooting at, they just shoot.
Anyway, I'm gonna stop this particular discussion here as it's starting to lean more towards a political debate than that of a TWD discussion.
Feel free to have the last word.
He may not have been outright evil but the way he acted became a liability to the group. If he had calmed down in the meat locker Kenny wouldn't of killed him even though at this point he had tried to kill kennys son and Lee who he was buddy buddy with at the time. I didn't enjoy killing him nor did I hate him but he was unstable with a heart condition which meant at any point he could throw a hissy fit die and then bite someone else. The biggest point against him is that he attacked lee after lee had saved larry's life while risking his own. So its okay to murderer people who are criminals, even though he didn't know the details about the case, doesn't that mean he himself is now a criminal and should be punished? How could he know Lee was 100% the killer or that he wasn't set up? He was a hypocrite who refused to apologize. He acted in the moment and let his emotions take control which meant his strength was a liability because he would use it for the wrong reason (ie trying to kill Lee.) It should be pointed out at that point Lilly was never in any danger from Lee up to this point even though he had plenty of chances to hurt her since Larry was passed out. Then he would turn around and say it was for his daughter, even though Clementine would then have noone to take care of her. If he survived he may have been able to redeem himself but at the moment of his death he had only caused problems and tried to get a person and a kid killed.
I hate to get involved in this but while telltalesmaster was a bit immature in his last comment yours was completely uncalled for and was the exact same thing Hazzer was talking against.
I hate to get involved in this but while telltalesmaster was a bit immature in his last comment yours was completely uncalled for and was the exact same thing Hazzer was talking against.
Also *detrimentally *Larry will save Lee's life from the walker that attacks Lee in episode 2, if Larry was evil, he would've just let the walker kill Lee and then kill the walker afterwards, but no that doesn't happen.
If you think someone is bitten, then you search for a bite first. Larry didn't search for a bite. Larry said "We're throwing this kid out of here because I say he's bitten." He wouldn't even take the time to make sure that the child he was verbally threatening was actually bitten, and he never felt remorse for advocating the death of a child even after he found out that said child hadn't actually been bitten. That's a real scumbag move and it can't be justified.
Yes, he wanted to kick Duck out instead of taking risks. That's relatively normal behaviour during the zombie apocalypse, when you encounter… more strangers. You don't take the bitten people inside. He had no reason to trust to Kenny or Lee, so he argued with them. Sure, I admit that he wasn't polite, but at least he didn't murder anyone in front of their family members.
Nah, Larry even says "We're tossing him out NOW!" near the end of the argument. He had no interest in searching for a bite. Larry said Duck was bitten, and that's all the proof Larry needs to justify the death of a child.
Also *detrimentally *Larry will save Lee's life from the walker that attacks Lee in episode 2, if Larry was evil, he would've just let the walker kill Lee and then kill the walker afterwards, but no that doesn't happen.
Unacceptable yet understandable, unlike Carver's behaviour for example. There were good intentions buried beneath that intimidating demeanou… morer of his. He was an ass but I just see all the logical reasoning behind his actions, in the same way I feel sympathy for Shane Walsh.
O_O Bro, I've got better things to do than stare at these forums all day. I'm a college student so unlike you I like to occasionally study r… moreather than start up retarded Shrek threads. My point is Larry wasn't a complete monster, he just had extremist views to maximise his daughter's safety. I dislike his attitude, but don't share the hate most people have for him. No need to be a prick during a civilized discussion, mate. Aggression plagues this forum.
"Aggresion plagues these forums" i know, i have helped fighting it for a long time, i helped getting @Lemoncakes banned, so dont give me a lecture, you are the one who find it okay to call other peoples threads "retarded"
O_O Bro, I've got better things to do than stare at these forums all day. I'm a college student so unlike you I like to occasionally study r… moreather than start up retarded Shrek threads. My point is Larry wasn't a complete monster, he just had extremist views to maximise his daughter's safety. I dislike his attitude, but don't share the hate most people have for him. No need to be a prick during a civilized discussion, mate. Aggression plagues this forum.
I have a hard time taking a lecture about someone's character from someone who features an 11 year old girl smoking.
The man tried to kill me. If that doesn't surge some resentment, then I'm not exactly humanity's greatest hope.
With right dialogue choices Larry says that he's fucking sorry when he learns that Duck has no scratches. So, he was afraid for the safety of his group and made a bad choice in the heat of the moment. Then he was talked some sense and he apologized.
In my books that doesn't make him a bad person. Maybe he is bit rude and doesn't always think things through before wanting to act, but inside he is a good person. He even saves Lee's life in Episode 2, despite the fact that he doesn't trust to Lee and thinks that Lee is a threat to the group.
If you think someone is bitten, then you search for a bite first. Larry didn't search for a bite. Larry said "We're throwing this kid out of… more here because I say he's bitten." He wouldn't even take the time to make sure that the child he was verbally threatening was actually bitten, and he never felt remorse for advocating the death of a child even after he found out that said child hadn't actually been bitten. That's a real scumbag move and it can't be justified.
I don't care why he's a grumpy blowhard. He's a grumpy blowhard. I hate him because he was a loud mouth asshole from the start even before he tried to get Lee killed.
Also *detrimentally *Larry will save Lee's life from the walker that attacks Lee in episode 2, if Larry was evil, he would've just let the walker kill Lee and then kill the walker afterwards, but no that doesn't happen.
I have a hard time taking a lecture about someone's character from someone who features an 11 year old girl smoking.
The man tried to kill me. If that doesn't surge some resentment, then I'm not exactly humanity's greatest hope.
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What about the part where he wanted to throw Duck out to the walkers because he was covered in muck? He wasn't even willing to see if Duck had been bitten, he just wanted to throw a 10 year old out in the streets to be eaten alive in front of that same child's parents based solely on the suspicion that he might be bitten. He was telling the group that they should smash Duck's head in right in front of Duck. There was no remorse or hesitation, he was willing to kill a child just to save himself. THAT is why I hate Larry. There's nothing that gives you the right to murder children. I don't care what he's gone through, that moment made me hate him. He even verbally tortured Duck by telling him that he was about to become a walker: "Hey little boy, before you eat your mommy, you get to see your Dad get his nose broken." Yeah, Larry is a Grade-A asshole.
People get angry when they get scared!
O_O Bro, I've got better things to do than stare at these forums all day. I'm a college student so unlike you I like to occasionally study rather than start up retarded Shrek threads. My point is Larry wasn't a complete monster, he just had extremist views to maximise his daughter's safety. I dislike his attitude, but don't share the hate most people have for him. No need to be a prick during a civilized discussion, mate. Aggression plagues this forum.
Yeah, that's a scumbag move. Duck was scared enough when he almost got bit. Poor kid didn't need to get verbally tortured by some old codger who thinks he's the only one who's lost someone. That moment was the same for me. At that point right there, I hated him. Everything else he's done like trying to leave Lee for dead and treating Lee and the group like shit made me hate him even more. I don't care if he was "trying to protect his daughter", he had no right to make everyone else feel miserable. I saved his sorry ass by risking my life to get him those pills, and THAT'S how he repays me? Punching me in the face and leaving me for dead? Fuck that guy!
True, what he said to Duck was unjustified. I can't defend him there.
Hazzer just burned yo lame ass comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmDhdmgYbaQ
Oh, I dunno, maybe because he tried to murder Lee after Lee saved his life? Fuck Larry.
There is no honor in killing at all. I'd actually argue that joining the military is worse than simple murder (in some cases). It's a job that literally requires you to kill people.
Go to foreign country; kill the 'enemy'. That's the goal.
Essentially, soldiers are the government's hitmen. The 'enemy' on the other side of the battlefield want to get out alive just as much as people on 'our' side do. I fail to see where the honor comes into play when you make a wife into a widow by killing these people.
While what Lee did was wrong, I can easily forgive him for it. Not only does he redeem himself by taking care of Clementine, I imagine the murder itself wan't as black-and-white as we think. It could have been an 'in the moment' kind of thing. Lee doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would kill if he thought things through first. Hell, it could have been a manslaughter case, or maybe the dude attacked Lee first. Who knows?
Lee's situation is a little vague, so I don't feel it's right to pass judgement on him anyways.
And in the end he was just talk. Even when he thought that Duck was bitten he didn't actually do anything to him and once he realizes that the boy isn't bitten, he doesn't try to get rid of him anymore.
In my books Larry is a decent person compared to those who actually did kill other group members in similar situations.
He couldn't forgive easily, and he made an extreme, irrational decision in the heat of the moment for Lilly.
If it weren't for Kenny (and determinantly Lee) Larry would have thrown Duck out immediately. He even moves toward Duck at the beginning of the argument and only stops because Kenny physically blocks him. He didn't do anything to Duck after it was revealed he wasn't bitten because there was no reason to, as Duck wasn't bitten. The thing is though, he wasn't even going to check for a bite. He was up and ready to kill a child based on the suspicion that they MIGHT be bit, then verbally abused Duck and his parents when, shocker, they didn't want to let their only son be torn apart by walking corpses. It wouldn't have been "Just talk" had Larry been allowed to get his hands on Duck. Thankfully Kenny (and determinantly Lee) kept that from happening.
I don't think he would have straight-up brained Duck. At most I think he would have shoved Katjaa out of the way and searched for a bite mark himself.
That's still unacceptable behavior.
At most soldiers kill terrorists or insurgents, and that's hardly their main purpose. They stabilise tortured populace's such as Assad's in Syria or those controlled by warlords in Somalia. Reducing hundreds and thousands of brave men and women into 'hitmen' is grossly narrow-minded... There's always collateral damage, but is it right to sit back and let entire cultures kill each other?
Unacceptable yet understandable, unlike Carver's behaviour for example. There were good intentions buried beneath that intimidating demeanour of his. He was an ass but I just see all the logical reasoning behind his actions, in the same way I feel sympathy for Shane Walsh.
Yes, he wanted to kick Duck out instead of taking risks. That's relatively normal behaviour during the zombie apocalypse, when you encounter strangers. You don't take the bitten people inside. He had no reason to trust to Kenny or Lee, so he argued with them. Sure, I admit that he wasn't polite, but at least he didn't murder anyone in front of their family members.
"At most soldiers kill terrorists or insurgents,"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2006-mass-murder-of-iraqi-civilians-by-us-forces-evidence-of-unspeakable-war-crimes/5320763
Just as an example. Civilians are killed because of American soldiers. Please remember this.
Anyway, my point is that if you sign up to go to war, not only do you support horrid crimes such as this, you run the risk of having to do these awful things yourself.
Signing up to kill people is immoral, period. The person's background is irrelevant. The average soldier doesn't know who they're shooting at, they just shoot.
Anyway, I'm gonna stop this particular discussion here as it's starting to lean more towards a political debate than that of a TWD discussion.
Feel free to have the last word.
I'm just slightly disgusted by how you can think less of military personnel due to the actions of a few sociopathic bad eggs. There are many reasons for someone to join the services, and killing people is not one of them. I've had family and friends in the army, Royal Marines and Royal Air Force. None have killed anyone. All are great people. You're clueless, sorry.
He may not have been outright evil but the way he acted became a liability to the group. If he had calmed down in the meat locker Kenny wouldn't of killed him even though at this point he had tried to kill kennys son and Lee who he was buddy buddy with at the time. I didn't enjoy killing him nor did I hate him but he was unstable with a heart condition which meant at any point he could throw a hissy fit die and then bite someone else. The biggest point against him is that he attacked lee after lee had saved larry's life while risking his own. So its okay to murderer people who are criminals, even though he didn't know the details about the case, doesn't that mean he himself is now a criminal and should be punished? How could he know Lee was 100% the killer or that he wasn't set up? He was a hypocrite who refused to apologize. He acted in the moment and let his emotions take control which meant his strength was a liability because he would use it for the wrong reason (ie trying to kill Lee.) It should be pointed out at that point Lilly was never in any danger from Lee up to this point even though he had plenty of chances to hurt her since Larry was passed out. Then he would turn around and say it was for his daughter, even though Clementine would then have noone to take care of her. If he survived he may have been able to redeem himself but at the moment of his death he had only caused problems and tried to get a person and a kid killed.
I hate to get involved in this but while telltalesmaster was a bit immature in his last comment yours was completely uncalled for and was the exact same thing Hazzer was talking against.
I agree
Oh sorry I should have realized it was meant to be a joke, my bad.
Also *detrimentally *Larry will save Lee's life from the walker that attacks Lee in episode 2, if Larry was evil, he would've just let the walker kill Lee and then kill the walker afterwards, but no that doesn't happen.
No problem, but it is kind of immature.
If you think someone is bitten, then you search for a bite first. Larry didn't search for a bite. Larry said "We're throwing this kid out of here because I say he's bitten." He wouldn't even take the time to make sure that the child he was verbally threatening was actually bitten, and he never felt remorse for advocating the death of a child even after he found out that said child hadn't actually been bitten. That's a real scumbag move and it can't be justified.
I have a hard time taking a lecture about someone's character from someone who features an 11 year old girl smoking.
The man tried to kill me. If that doesn't surge some resentment, then I'm not exactly humanity's greatest hope.
Nah, Larry even says "We're tossing him out NOW!" near the end of the argument. He had no interest in searching for a bite. Larry said Duck was bitten, and that's all the proof Larry needs to justify the death of a child.
Oh yeah I totally forgot that can happen if you give Larry the axe. Although I don't think most people think Larry is evil, just kind of a dick.
lmao
You agree with me that his actions were unacceptable, and yet you still accept them?
lolol
LOL, you replied to other comments but not mine, you were on the forums, don't lie to other folks
Tell me about being immature :P
"Aggresion plagues these forums" i know, i have helped fighting it for a long time, i helped getting @Lemoncakes banned, so dont give me a lecture, you are the one who find it okay to call other peoples threads "retarded"
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Never did I ever even say I accept them...
With right dialogue choices Larry says that he's fucking sorry when he learns that Duck has no scratches. So, he was afraid for the safety of his group and made a bad choice in the heat of the moment. Then he was talked some sense and he apologized.
In my books that doesn't make him a bad person. Maybe he is bit rude and doesn't always think things through before wanting to act, but inside he is a good person. He even saves Lee's life in Episode 2, despite the fact that he doesn't trust to Lee and thinks that Lee is a threat to the group.
I don't care why he's a grumpy blowhard. He's a grumpy blowhard. I hate him because he was a loud mouth asshole from the start even before he tried to get Lee killed.
"A shovel is never not useful" then 2 minutes later "i'm not gonna need that - Lee Everett
I can never bring myself to give him the axe so its always Mark in my game that saves Lee.
I have a hard time listening to anyone's opinion when they stake their entire morality on what other people's fucking profile picture is.
Calm down both of you. What does his profile pic have to do with anything? And Hazzer, Calm down a bit