The moment that defines Kenny for you

I see a lot of Kenny support and after all this time I still dont understand it. Whenever someone brings forth one of his "virtues", I always hear that one conversation at the end of episode 2 ring in my ears over and over again.

Kenny: Youre not looking out for my family.

Lee: I just saved Katjaa and Duck

Kenny: No, I saved Katjaa and Duck by killing Larry!

Just him rewriting the event that makes him into the hero and everyone else a villain. It exemplifies his attitude that hes right and everyone else is wrong and if they disagree with him. In Kenny's mind, people dont have differing opinions, the world is just against him. The fact that he gives Lee NO credit at all for what he did shows how delusional he is, its unlike how any rational person speaks or thinks. I could understand a person being angry for disagreeing with him in the meat locker, but Lee undeniably saved both Katjaa and Duck. He killed Danny HIMSELF, saved Katjaa HIMSELF and saved Duck in front of Kenny's eyes, yet in Kenny's mind, Lee did nothing and Kenny is the hero.

Whats the one moment that you think defines Kenny and shapes your overall opinion of him?

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  • The moment that he ran away like a coward from saving Shawn.

  • The end of season 1 episode 4 whether he goes with you or not. I thought that shows how loyal he can be if you side with him, and how much of an asshole he can be if you don't.

  • Insisting that bitten Duck/Sarita was fine.

    Shooting Johnny at the lodge.

    Taking the blame for the radio.

  • When he was right about absolutely everything and destroyed all non-believers

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  • Coming with me at the end of Around Every Corner (determinant)

    Taking the blame for the radio

    Talking/fighting with Lee

    Killing Carver

    Insisting on staying in Wellington

  • Kenny is a god and using his clairvoyance ability he knew that there was no way to save Shawn, even if you go for him first you can't save him.

    JonGon posted: »

    The moment that he ran away like a coward from saving Shawn.

  • What did you ever do for me Lee? When he refused to help look for Clem. That's not the exact quote, was something along those lines.

  • edited October 2014

    When Kenny decided not to go with the rest of the group to find Clementine, I was heart-broken. I decided never to trust him again, even going so far as to disagreeing with him every single scene onward. When he reappeared in season 2, to my own surprise, I couldn't have been more happy. After spending the entire first episode with this hostile group, seeing a familiar face felt like a welcome change. We sat down, had a talk. For the first time in season 2 I felt a genuine sense of happiness. But something was off. This wasn't the Kenny that had supposedly sacrificed himself for the last wish of some kid that had gotten his family killed. The rest of the season I decided to just roll with it. I was playing Clementine now, a blank slate. Episodes later, I found myself aiming a gun at his head, trying to make the tough choice between a good friend and a pragmatic survivalist who had taken a liking to me. It wasn't easy, but in the end, I didn't pull the trigger.

    I looked away. Some poor girl's throat had been cut, just because she wanted to prove a point. It's funny. I'd actually decided that I wouldn't give the man another chance. He had gone too far and it was time to put him down. But when Clementine was laying there, pointing that gun at him... I couldn't do it. Something in me drove me away from that god-awful choice. A few moments later we found the baby, safe in a car, just as i had guessed from what Jane told me. This was it, my final choice, his welcome had long been overstayed, but I still took him with me. "It's best for AJ." I told myself, the underlying reason was unknown to me. When we reached Wellington, I was ecstatic. I had found a safe place for this unlikely little family to finally live in peace. My hopes were shattered, along with my heart, when the gatekeeper told us only the kids could enter. This was, by far, the most emotional scene in the entirety of season 2. Kenny had decided to make one last sacrifice, to try and fulfill his one last wish. That wish was for his family to be safe, and safe they would be. After minutes of contemplating about the choice, I decided that I couldn't deny him the right to have this.

    Duck, Katjaa and even Sarita might not have made it, but now he can finally live in peace, knowing that he managed to keep at least one of his families safe.

  • IN S1 E1 AT THE END HE SAVED LEE .This made me love him .In my gamrplay when i side with him he always help me.
    IN S2 :-He took the radio ro protect Clem.If Clem will said she had it he will killed her , she is a kid so she isn't that powerfull.
    -If don't kill him he sacrife his safety for clem and aj to be safe

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    JonGon posted: »

    The moment that he ran away like a coward from saving Shawn.

  • edited September 2014

    For me, when Kenny pleaded for Clementine and Alvie, that they be allowed to stay at Wellington.
    Even if it meant he couldn't.
    That's what showed me, just what kind of Man he was.
    And a damn-good one at that!

  • To quote Bill Cosby: "RIGHT!"

    When he was right about absolutely everything and destroyed all non-believers

  • edited September 2014

    Saving Lee's life in S1EP1, refusing to let me go alone to find Clem, sacrificing himself to save Ben, being the first one to want to try to escape Carver's prison, taking the blame for the radio, selflessly asking Clem and AJ to be brought into Wellington.

  • His stache...

  • edited September 2014

    S1 When Kenny told Lee that he wouldn't help save a dying man who did nothing but assist the prick in saving a young girl...

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    S2: When Kenny viciously murdered Carver in front of an eleven year old girl. What a big man.

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  • Kenny: Lee..., you know I care about Clementine. And I am a Christian man. But I keep asking myself, if this was me, asking you for help, asking you to put your life on the line, would you be there for me? Because there've been plenty of times when you ain't been.

    then

    Lee: Go fuck yourself. You're gonna let a little girl die, because I didn't have your back every damn minute? Maybe you should grow the fuck up. Do whatever you want asshole.

    "Oh you're gonna break bad with me now? You might have been looking out for me and my family when we first teamed up, but ever since then, you've been thinking about yourself more often than your friends. You're on your own now Lee.

    and

    Lee: She's (Molly) saved your life Ken.

    Kenny: Oh yeah? Well what's she done for me lately.

    My God Kenny is such a dirtbag.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator
    edited October 2014

    -The killing of Larry.

    -His insistence on leaving Ben, and looking at me as if I should drop him.

    -His sacrifice for Ben (he was a good man at heart...)

    -Calling Ben a shitbird at the lodge (....and we're back to square one)

    -His method of dealing with Carver

    -Beating on Arvo

  • Thank you!

    I can't believe people actually tried to sway him to help. If the asshole doesn't want to help after I took the burden of killing his son, then fuck him. I'm not going to suck his dick because he... helped all none of those times.

    torkahn808 posted: »

    Kenny: Lee..., you know I care about Clementine. And I am a Christian man. But I keep asking myself, if this was me, asking you for help, as

  • But...what? You choose if you want to stick around and watch Kenny do that! How the Hell is your choice Kenny's fault?

    S1 When Kenny told Lee that he wouldn't help save a dying man who did nothing but assist the prick in saving a young girl... S2: When Kenny viciously murdered Carver in front of an eleven year old girl. What a big man.

  • The moment that he tells Clem to stay at Wellington with AJ. He knows that he's a dangerous person and that if Clem and AJ stayed with him, then eventually they would die, but he outright refuses to let that happen if he can help it. He's a guy who knows that he's an asshole and that he's dangerous, but he's also a man who would give up everything for his loved ones.

    Essentially, he's complicated. He has flaws, quite a few, but at the end of the day he's still a good man.

  • edited September 2014

    After what happened in the Meat Locker, me and Kenny weren't friends anymore.

    Also not helping to find Clem, even if me and Kenny didn't like each other that's pretty messed up.

  • grow the fuck up.

    Calm yourself.

  • How the hell does a grown man sleep at night knowing a girl was there watching Kenny do something like that? Kenny may be an idiot, be he has control over situations too you know...

    Think for yourself, why would anyone stand by to watch that happen? Petty revenge? I wanted to see how much Kenny cared for Clementine, I wanted him to prove it by actions. He doesn't care about Clementine though, I learned that much...

    But...what? You choose if you want to stick around and watch Kenny do that! How the Hell is your choice Kenny's fault?

  • One day after the apocalypse, which would prove that he didn't care that someone would die even before everything was horrible?

  • The Wellington ending.

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  • jesus... this is beautiful, the Wellington ending goes all the way back to S1E2. Why is Kenny so perfect?

  • grow the fuck up.

    look in the mirror. Taking it a bit personal... For someone whose "grown the fuck up"

  • edited September 2014

    This one of those times where I'm completely on Kenny's side on. Not the beating Carver to death though he deserved it. But staying to watch it. I wanted Clem to see what Kenny was capable of. It made it that much easier to see him falling apart in the last 2 episodes. Like Clem herself said "its not your decision to make" when Sarita tried to get her to look away. The biggest problem I had with season 2 was how everyone treated Clem like an adult until it was convenient to remember she was a kid. "Clem do this for us... We need you do this and that and this and that." "oh you're just a kid what do you know." Clem needs to see everything if she's going to survive. You cant expect her to single handedly help them escape one minute and then act like she's a little kid who can't handle a little violence the next.

    How the hell does a grown man sleep at night knowing a girl was there watching Kenny do something like that? Kenny may be an idiot, be he ha

  • edited September 2014

    2 people on this board actually told me it was my fault Kenny didn't come with me to find Clem. "suck his dick" is pretty much what he expects and boy does his fans do that.

    Thank you! I can't believe people actually tried to sway him to help. If the asshole doesn't want to help after I took the burden of killing his son, then fuck him. I'm not going to suck his dick because he... helped all none of those times.

  • ow the hell does a grown man sleep at night knowing a girl was there watching Kenny do something like that?

    I dunno

    Kenny may be an idiot, be he has control over situations too you know...

    I'm well aware, but in the end, YOU still have to make the decision to stay behind and watch that. That's like calling Lee an asshole for not feeding the kids when it was completely up to you.

    Think for yourself, why would anyone stand by to watch that happen? Petty revenge?

    I don't know. A majority of the people did, though.

    I wanted to see how much Kenny cared for Clementine, I wanted him to prove it by actions. He doesn't care about Clementine though, I learned that much...

    What? You've got to bloody kidding me. Him beating Carver to death in-front of Clem means he didn't care about her? Yeah, totally. The day before that, he totally just didn't receive an ass beating from Carver for Clem because he didn't care about her. It might've been stupid of him to just do it, but you're honestly gonna say him doing it proved he didn't like Clem? I'm completely blown away by that. How does that make sense? He did tell Clem (and everyone for that matter) to leave, saying they wouldn't want to see it. It was completely up to the player if they wanted to see that whole ordeal to go down. It's a dick move of Kenny to bring this up if you stick up for Arvo,but...

    HOW DOES THAT PROVE HE DOESN'T CARE FOR HER?!?!?!?

    I understand you don't like Kenny. I'm cool with that. It's just this, combined with the argument of "Kenny threatened to slap her!!!1!!" that people used to use is utterly ridiculous.

    How the hell does a grown man sleep at night knowing a girl was there watching Kenny do something like that? Kenny may be an idiot, be he ha

  • For me, it was when he tried to save Ben, and "sacrificed" himself (or when he saves Christa). To be honest, I wasn't really expecting Kenny to do that then. I mean, throughout season 1, up until then, he was a rather selfish person. But when he did that, my view of him changed.

  • dat picture.

    The Wellington ending.

  • One shouldn't be defined by one sole moment. If we all had logic like that we would base all religions or group of people or organization off one good or bad example, which isn't fair. Yeah, we can have cues that go off about a particular thing or person, that either make us start to feel one way or the other about something, but if we use that sort of logic to judge others, then Lee is by definition a murderer and bad man because he killed the man sleeping with his wife. Whatever reason he did it for, whether it be out of rage or trying to protect his wife, Lee is not a bad man if you ask me.

    Kenny has his up and downs, and I had my major up and downs liking him and disliking him and hating him and wanting to leave him. But I played my Lee to the closest to my own personality, and Kenny backed me up in the end, so yeah, I like him. And in one play through when he didn't side with me, I was fuckin pissed. So, yeah, I understand why people dislike him. I'm not someone who will defend all his actions, but most of the time, if not all of the time, I understand why Kenny does what he does, and because I can understand him better than most other characters I tend to like sticking with him more.

    So, my defining moment for Kenny, I don't have one. I have moments, that all lead up to who I think he is and why I see him the way I do.

  • I wanted to see how much Kenny cared for Clementine, I wanted him to prove it by actions. He doesn't care about Clementine though, I learned that much...

    Lewl, and i thought some Kenny haters always, at the least, had good arguments...

    How the hell does a grown man sleep at night knowing a girl was there watching Kenny do something like that? Kenny may be an idiot, be he ha

  • The moment that defined Kenny for me was when he told me to drop Ben at the clock tower. It's like yes Ben was a screw up, but at least he ADMITTED IT! He's not the only person who technically caused someone to lose their family. Hey Kenny, remember Shaun and Hershel? Remember Larry? Lilly and Hershel both lost their families indirectly because of Kenny, but do they insist Kenny die? No. Lilly hates Kenny, but they were already arguing the entire time anyway, Hershel had a gun he could have killed Kenny right then and there. No instead he just had Kenny leave with his happy family and a working truck. What Ben did was stupid and wrong, the way he doesn't think, is stupid as well, but no reason to drop him to his death right after he admitted to being a screw up especially because he told us to drop him showing he felt true guilt.

  • "Im gonna take the first sonuvabitch's gun I see first. Then, I'm gonna shoot the NEXT sunuvabitch I see."

  • edited September 2014

    Good argument, just ridicule the opposing side for not wanting to side with someone as savage as Kenny... That'll show me!

    I wanted to see how much Kenny cared for Clementine, I wanted him to prove it by actions. He doesn't care about Clementine though, I learned that much... Lewl, and i thought some Kenny haters always, at the least, had good arguments...

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