The moment that defines Kenny for you

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  • m8

    i didn't said that.

    Good argument, just ridicule the opposing side for not wanting to side with someone as savage as Kenny... That'll show me!

  • What? You've got to bloody kidding me.

    Nope, I don't just think inside the lines of the linear narrative. In that kind of situation, the kind of person I am, I would just sit back and observe. And I did, he does not care for Clementine. She almost froze to death, and Kenny was busy beating up some tool because... logic! Jane saved her life. So, I obviously chose the person who was a better human being (and don't give me your sob story about Kenny losing his horrid family, Jane lost people too).

    ow the hell does a grown man sleep at night knowing a girl was there watching Kenny do something like that? I dunno Kenny may

  • Im not judging on that one sole action, Ive chosen the action that exemplifies his personality best

    That moment was the one that really showed me there was never any reasoning with him, the moment that I could say we would never be friends because his idea of a friend is one that only does what he says and never collaborates. Theres numerous examples of him doing this, but none better than his delusional deconstruction of the events at the farm

    One shouldn't be defined by one sole moment. If we all had logic like that we would base all religions or group of people or organization of

  • You don't have to, you implied...

    m8 i didn't said that.

  • "suck his dick" is pretty much what he expects and boy does his fans do that.

    So, if we admire and side with a fictional character that you guys don't like, we're automatically "sucking his dick" ?

    Good point !

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    Rockworm posted: »

    2 people on this board actually told me it was my fault Kenny didn't come with me to find Clem. "suck his dick" is pretty much what he expects and boy does his fans do that.

  • It's because he is completely neurotic. He cares for no one but people who constantly suck his preverbal dick.

    I wasn't down to murder Larry because he might be dead. And he dogged me for it the rest of the season. Plus I killed his son and he still wants to bitch at me for not helping because... logic!

    "suck his dick" is pretty much what he expects and boy does his fans do that. So, if we admire and side with a fictional character t

  • edited September 2014

    Well.

    Hypothetically, having not-so-good arguments doesn't really make you dumb. :D

    Edit: NVM, you edited your post. :(

    You don't have to, you implied...

  • Edit: NVM, you edited your post. :(

    Sure did, it obviously wasn't clear to you. So, I helped make it clear.

    Well. Hypothetically, having not-so-good arguments doesn't really make you dumb. Edit: NVM, you edited your post.

  • How Kenny treats you is based determinedly on how you handle him. Kenny doesn't say that to someone who helps kill Larry, which we could argue on that all day but I don't care what someone choose to do or choose to not do, but it's not something Kenny says no matter what we do in that situation. And to him, we weren't helping him, so he lashed out at us angrily and hatefully.

    Should my view of Kenny be devalidated because someone else didn't like him and didn't get along with him when my Lee did? I understand if you don't like the type of person Kenny is, because the thing is not everyone is always going to get along. Just say you don't like him and that he screwed up to a point you would never like him. I realize Kenny's flaws, but I choose to still stick by him.

    Apples posted: »

    Im not judging on that one sole action, Ive chosen the action that exemplifies his personality best That moment was the one that really s

  • I didn't said that Kenny wasn't an asshole back in season 1.

    Plus, i told him to go fuck himself when he said... well, you know what he said.

    But well, that's your opinion, it ain't really worth arguing over that...

    It's because he is completely neurotic. He cares for no one but people who constantly suck his preverbal dick. I wasn't down to murder La

  • I'd say the two moments that define Kenny are:

    Saving Ben in S1E5, or taking the blame for the radio in In Harm's Way. Ultimately, Kenny will be the one to protect the people he cares about, or even people he hates(Ben), even if it means he could be killed.

    But at the same time, when he kills Jane. He's unstable and broken. That doesn't mean he's just some wild dog to be put down, as some people have viewed it. I can't really fault people who would shoot him, as much as I disagree with it. Jane manipulated him, she wanted a fight and... She got it. I didn't leave Kenny, because... You don't leave family behind, and in my game at least, Clem and Kenny are family.

  • Well, you thought i was calling the Kenny haters "dumb" and i just wanted to make it clear that this wasn't what i meant. :)

    And, well, even if you hate Kenny, saying that he didn't care about clementine is kinda... you know, invalid. But whatever, better not argue. :)

    Edit: NVM, you edited your post. Sure did, it obviously wasn't clear to you. So, I helped make it clear.

  • Things might be determinate, but this is beyond a "if he does this, then hes this" kind of a situation. You can look at both sides of the coin and when you put them together its always an ugly picture. Its not that I didnt get along with Kenny, I would have rationally argued points with him if ever I could, you know, like a friend (or even any person), but hes never willing to do that.

    The first moments (and there were ups and downs in the beginning) I started to dislike Kenny was when we entered the pharmacy and I tried to talk Larry down (which would be logical, considering Larry is part of a larger group who could easily overpower us and it would be easy to prove Duck wasnt bit) and of course he berates me for it, simply because hes right about everything and clearly not because he cant see the bigger picture. The next was when we returned to the Motor Inn and I said "Nobody's right" so that I could defuse the stupid argument between Lilly and Kenny, both of whom I was quickly losing respect for. I went to talk to him and he doesnt even want to hear my opinion on the matter, no, I needed to pick his side, thats it, its not about right or wrong, its about him.

    The talk after the farm was the breaking point, it was just completely ridiculous. I understand he was mad about the meat locker, it was a hard decision even for him and he didnt want to look like he alone was a murderer. If Lee had joined him, it would have looked a bit more justified. But the fact that he gives Lee NO CREDIT for clearly caring about his family and doing the majority of the work in saving both of them just broke all my faith in Kenny. Think of if it was you (or anyone you know, anyone I know at least), the first thing on your mind is that my family is safe now, damn Lee really took down those St. Johns to get them! But somehow Kenny just ignores it completely and focuses on his own "heroism" rather than what really happened.

    How Kenny treats you is based determinedly on how you handle him. Kenny doesn't say that to someone who helps kill Larry, which we could arg

  • When he screamed at Clementine about Saritas death. It shows that he is real & shows emotion.

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    I don't really know how else to continue this conversation other than say, that when an artist paints a picture, no one is going to look at it the same as someone else. Their ideas about it will not be the same as the person next to them, for whatever reason. This applies to everything in life, it applies to situations, to people, to things, no one is going to look at something the same way as someone else. The way you see Kenny is how you see him. The way I see Kenny, is how I see him. While I can see your points and it being all about him, despite Kenny being flawed, I still choose to stand by him because I still like him.

    Apples posted: »

    Things might be determinate, but this is beyond a "if he does this, then hes this" kind of a situation. You can look at both sides of the co

  • That definitely made me furious. Lee risked his life to save Kenny's family and he gets no acknowledgement for it. But the last straw for me was definitely Kenny refusing to help Lee look for Clementine. I still can't firgive him for that.

  • Absolutely. Well said, Hollay. :) By the way, its great to see ya!

    I don't really know how else to continue this conversation other than say, that when an artist paints a picture, no one is going to look at

  • The fact that you assume I don't like him because I don't suck his dick just proves my point.

    In this very thread

    jesus... this is beautiful, the Wellington ending goes all the way back to S1E2. Why is Kenny so perfect?

    Just a bunch of Kenny circlejerking all over this forum.

    "suck his dick" is pretty much what he expects and boy does his fans do that. So, if we admire and side with a fictional character t

  • Running away from Shawn.

    "You commie piece of shit!" Aaaaaand, that bit.

  • edited September 2014

    I could bring up some points about why i really don't think you like Kenny, and why you're so butthurt that some people do. But i won't. You sir have a good night. :)

    Rockworm posted: »

    The fact that you assume I don't like him because I don't suck his dick just proves my point. In this very thread jesus... this is

  • I like Kenny. I really do. I think he's an interesting character. What i don't like is the assumption that I need to worship the ground he walks on in order to like him. Or that his fanbase seem to think he's infallable and that everything he's done is someone else's fault. I especially don't like how people tend to fixate on him like he's the damn star of the show.

    I could bring up some points about why i really don't think you like Kenny, and why you're so butthurt that some people do. But i won't. You sir have a good night.

  • Some of Kenny's fanbase are a bunch of nuts and asshats who refuse to even have a decent debate about him. They just say Kenny is GOD, so screw your argument I'm right, much like Kenny does, acting without thinking.

    In the words of Lee, "You're not a bad dude, Kenny, but FUCK, what the hell are we gonna do now?"

    Rockworm posted: »

    I like Kenny. I really do. I think he's an interesting character. What i don't like is the assumption that I need to worship the ground h

  • That's pretty deep. Nicely said.

    That_1_Guy posted: »

    When Kenny decided not to go with the rest of the group to find Clementine, I was heart-broken. I decided never to trust him again, even goi

  • I agree with this 100%.

    Zyphon posted: »

    I'd say the two moments that define Kenny are: Saving Ben in S1E5, or taking the blame for the radio in In Harm's Way. Ultimately, Kenny

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    That_1_Guy posted: »

    When Kenny decided not to go with the rest of the group to find Clementine, I was heart-broken. I decided never to trust him again, even goi

  • edited October 2014

    Oh, it ain't like that. I just thought you were some o fhese guys that are like "hur durr, kenny worst character ever jane iz beter hurr his fans are so stupid, gon go criticize him and i dun care what people will think aokpasodkapo potato"

    And fuck, if people like him at THAT point and are not joking... this is fucked up, man.

    BTW, i'm TeamNick, just saying.

    Rockworm posted: »

    I like Kenny. I really do. I think he's an interesting character. What i don't like is the assumption that I need to worship the ground h

    • "Just because it gets tough doesn't mean you just give up" - Not the exact words but you get the gist.
  • As a Kenny fan, I'd like to point out that not all of us are like that. There are definitely some bad seeds, but there are also plenty of Kenny fans who are just that: Fans of his character, without going overboard on it.

    Rockworm posted: »

    I like Kenny. I really do. I think he's an interesting character. What i don't like is the assumption that I need to worship the ground h

  • I backed that man up all the time (except for Larry and Ben) he then yells at me on a train saying I'm running a shit sham of a family, I was a bit mad at him for saying that but shrugged it off, but when he wouldn't help me look for Clem 'cus of not helping him kill Larry and dropping a kid that made a mistake I knew exactly what kind of a man he was.

  • I know. You've been awesome about it. And so have others. I've talked to plenty of Kenny fans who aren't unreasonable about it. Then I have people who are telling me Clem losing her parents and Lee doesn't count because its not the same as losing wife and child...... That's being unreasonable.

    Rock114 posted: »

    As a Kenny fan, I'd like to point out that not all of us are like that. There are definitely some bad seeds, but there are also plenty of Kenny fans who are just that: Fans of his character, without going overboard on it.

  • I just felt I had to specify because some people just lump all Kenny fans into the same bunch and label us all as "Unreasonable and petty" and other nasty adjectives just because we like Kenny and they don't. I'm glad you're not one of those people, as I'm sure you're glad I'm not one of the Kenny fans who really is unreasonable.

    Rockworm posted: »

    I know. You've been awesome about it. And so have others. I've talked to plenty of Kenny fans who aren't unreasonable about it. Then I h

  • when kenny asks the wellington girl for Clem and AJ to stay at wellington, that made me relize i would never leave kenny for ANYONE!

  • edited October 2014

    When Lee has to fight him to get him to stop the train. It tells me he's a family guy, which is not necessarily bad, but he's also pretty stubborn and rarely open to different opinions. In my opinion, Clementine doesn't need Kenny, Kenny needs Clementine. When Sarita died, Clementine was the only person Kenny could trust. But unfortunately, he let his uncontrollable anger get the best of him and drove away the group. He had a good run.

    But eventually, he needed to die. When he disappeared in season 1, he was a legend. When I killed him in season 2, he was a friend that had just lost it and need to go. Kind of like that book.. Of mice and men. Where the the main "sane" character had to shoot his mentality disabled friend because he kept fucking up big time.

    I don't understand all this big deal where "Kenny sacrificed his safety for Clem & Alvie".. That's like someone offering you a ride, and then saying you would have not been able to reach your destination without that person offering you a ride.

    It's just that I really don't like working with closed-minded people. I'm a supporter, not a blind follower.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator
    edited October 2014

    Kind of like that book.. Of mice and men. Where the the main "sane" character had to shoot his mentality disabled friend because he kept fucking up big time.

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    remorse667 posted: »

    When Lee has to fight him to get him to stop the train. It tells me he's a family guy, which is not necessarily bad, but he's also pretty st

  • i fucking love that line.
    but when kenny went full on govenor in the same episode i was like...

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    bigdogg0821 posted: »

    "Im gonna take the first sonuvabitch's gun I see first. Then, I'm gonna shoot the NEXT sunuvabitch I see."

  • Of course, there are bad seeds everywhere, and oh boy I mean everywhere, but every fan base has that. Not saying everyone is like that, and not saying you are like that. There are good people out there who we can have a good discussion with and I think you are one of them.

    Rock114 posted: »

    I just felt I had to specify because some people just lump all Kenny fans into the same bunch and label us all as "Unreasonable and petty" a

  • edited October 2014

    Dude! You're like actually a mineral! You're solid!

    Rock114 posted: »

    I just felt I had to specify because some people just lump all Kenny fans into the same bunch and label us all as "Unreasonable and petty" a

  • "Jesus Christ, they're minerals Marie!" Oops. Wrong things. Moving on.

    Rockworm posted: »

    Dude! You're like actually a mineral! You're solid!

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