You don't really know that Nate killed those old people. All you know is you heard two gunshots. The old guy was shot in the chest, and the woman in the stomach.
True but Nate killed those old people "and took their stuff" it depends on your point of view but I would say Arvo has done more damage then Nate has done (so far, NATE CONFIRMED FOR SEASON 3)
You don't really know that Nate killed those old people. All you know is you heard two gunshots. The old guy was shot in the chest, and the woman in the stomach.
For all we know they could of been gunshots from somewhere else. We don't know what happened, we can only infer.
For all we know after Russel leaves, Nate shoots his handgun off twice to make Russel think he did kill them, he leaves and they succumb to their wounds of their previous firefight.
For all we know they could of been gunshots from somewhere else. We don't know what happened, we can only infer.
For all we know after Ru… moressel leaves, Nate shoots his handgun off twice to make Russel think he did kill them, he leaves and they succumb to their wounds of their previous firefight.
Maybe, Maybe not. We do not know where they came from. They could have came from inside or outside the dinner.
Walt is see in Shel´s story has a walker.
That doesn't prove Nate killed him. When they arrived on Scene both old people were shot already. The old guy was shot in the chest, where the old woman was shot in the gut.
For all we know they could of been gunshots from somewhere else.
We heard the gunshots, and they are coming from the dinner. Two gun… moreshots, one for Walt and another for Jean.
We don't know what happened, we can only infer.
Oh, but we do know what happened. Walt is see in Shel´s story has a walker.
Also, if you stay with Nate you see Nate shot them.
We heard the gunshots
Correct
They are coming with the dinner
Maybe, Maybe not. We do not know where they came from. … moreThey could have came from inside or outside the dinner.
Walt is see in Shel´s story has a walker.
That doesn't prove Nate killed him. When they arrived on Scene both old people were shot already. The old guy was shot in the chest, where the old woman was shot in the gut.
The St. Johns would probably have my vote. But I do like how the Stranger was just a normal guy-"I coached Little League". I think that adds more depth to his character. But the St. Johns' story line dealt with a taboo subject that garners a lot of fascination, especially witnessing the realism and depravity Telltale put into it. The family unit gives the characters complex relationships -Danny's jealousy, Brenda mourning her husband and favoring Andy over Danny, ect. The player can discover a lot about them just by looking around and dissecting the hidden meanings and intentions in their dialogues. Good storytelling is when something can be inferred by the reader, rather than just told upfront about it.
Carver's character seemed promising in the beginning, but I think he devolved into a stereotypical villain in Episode 3. He just wasn't given enough development.
Maybe, Maybe not. We do not know where they came from. They could have came from inside or outside the dinner.
Is pretty clear they … morecome for inside the dinner.
That doesn't prove Nate killed him.
Actually, it does. We see him as a walker only when you stay with Nate, and you watch him shoot Walt in the chest, then kill Jeane.
When they arrived on Scene both old people were shot already. The old guy was shot in the chest, where the old woman was shot in the gut.
Walt was not shot. Only Jean. And she survived the gunshot after, so she was clearly fine... until psyco Nate came along and killed them.
Why isn't there a Vernon option? I'm still mad at him.
More seriously, the Stranger was the best, hands down. He wasn't a cannibal or a bandit lurking in the woods or a megalomaniac dictator or a monster. He was just some guy, a dad who coached Little League. He is one of the most tragic characters in the entire series.
Actually, it does. We see him as a walker when you stay with Nate, and you watch him shoot Walk in the chest, then kill Jeane.
Oh yeah i forgot about that... Well I'm sure he had his reasons ^_^
Leaving aside that those same old people survived 181 days into the apocalypse, and that dissaproves your entery "argument"... How does them being old make killing then rigth?
I wanted to pick Carver but I went with the stranger instead because I really didn't expect the villain to be the guy who owned the car that we stole from,and I loved his final confrontation with Lee.
I think he means they were going to die because the old lady was shot and was probably going to die, the old guy might have been able to make it though.
Leaving aside that those same old people survived 181 days into the apocalypse, and that dissaproves your entery "argument"... How does them being old make killing then rigth?
I think he means they were going to die because the old lady was shot and was probably going to die, the old guy might have been able to make it though.
I don't know if Nate counts, I mean I guess he kind off is on Wyatt's story but in Russel's it's very ambiguous he isn't exactly good but he… more does good things and bad things, he's too ambiguous to be considered one.
In any case probably the St. Johns, they genuinely freaked me out and made me feel disgusted, hell I almost puked on the dinner scene, had to pause the game and just rest for a moment because it was pretty disgusting, I don´'t know as sinister as they were they felt pretty real, even what they did kind of made sense and that's exactly why they worked, they did something really awful but you can understand why they do it regardless of how awful it is.
i wouldn't consider nate a villain for some reason idk i really don't know how to explain it i also wouldn't consider the save lot bandits v… moreillains since well they were just bandits in a area they didn't really cause trouble for the group until later for a very short period of time
i would say it is a tie between the st johns and carver but you know who beats them all imo in terms of true evil this motherfucker
Maybe, maybe not, realistically speaking she'd probably die but since this is The Walking Dead and everyone seems to shrug off bullet wounds I'll say you're probably right, who knows what the hell is wrong with Nate though, I would have shot her in the head, can't understand why he didn't, I mean I wouldn't have killed any of them but if I were going to kill them it would be with a bullet to the head.
I think he means they were going to die because the old lady was shot and was probably going to die,
She survived the gunshot, after hours. She was fine.
I guess, but wouldn't that make Roman's group villains too?
I mean they are clearly the antagonists in Bonnie's story, but you play as them in Shel's...
I guess Nate is more of a bad guy though, and you probably should have included Arvo or at least his group since they were bandits, I mean Arvo didn't really seem like a villain to me either but he was acting as a distraction for a bandit attack that one time so...
Not that it matters since the St. John's and the Stranger are the best villains in the game anyway.
Don't know why you couldn't consider Arvo a villain. He did get a bunch of his friends with him whom later tried to kill Clem's group and later on he then shot her in the shoulder. That's all antagonist material.
I think he means they were going to die because the old lady was shot and was probably going to die,
She survived the gunshot, after hours. She was fine.
I think the St Johns were the best villains so far.
They weren't evil for the sake of being evil, like Carver, and they weren't batshit crazy (except Danny) like Nate.
You might say now:
'They were eating people, that's pretty goddamn crazy!'
I say it was more an act of desperation than crazyness. They were starving, and that's the only way out they saw. It was wrong, and I think deep down they know what they were doing, but couldn't help it, they feared to otherwise die. The stranger on the other hand didn't have control anymore.
Sure, you might say they had enough other food to eat and didn't need flesh. What if they hadn't?
It could all just have been a lie. The food (except the flesh) that they served Lee's group was really all they had left. They just wanted to lure people and lull them in so they won't realize they'll soon be the food, and the St Johns always served the same food.
What they served Lee was what they had served every poor soul before eating them. Makes them way more interesting than Carver or Nate, or the stranger.
I also like the fact you first saw them as friendly people. You did know something was off, because it's The Walking Dead, but not until close to the finale.
Carver always was the bad guy. Never a single 'good' scene, over and over proving he's the baddie. Nate was not really a villain imo, more an antagonist (and no, that's not really the same). The stranger was just a sad fuck that had lost everything and went nuts over it.
But the St Johns were interesting. Didn't stop me from killing Danny and leaving Andrew for dead, though :P
im really confused on why your acting so defensive, i wasnt trying to start a debate in any way or form after my second post i was literally going on about how everyone has diff opinions
Well unlike you, i care more about survival of Clementine and im ready to do more to ensure it. Its true that i dont like Kenny, but the rea… moresons why i dont want him around Clementine are solely based on the fact that i see him as a threat to Clementine's survival. He puts her in unnecessary danger and his anger issues is a huge risk to Clementine. And the fact that his only reason to live is AJ, aint good either.
kenny haterspeople are just as bad as the hardcore kenny fans who spam shit.
You insulted me, i provided my reasons for not wanting to have Kenny around. I dont hate Kenny, i just dont want him anywhere near my Clem. You see me as kenny hater or something yes? Im simply trying to be objective and people hate that. Im more annoyed at people who see Kenny as selfless hero who does everything to keep Clementine safe.
im really confused on why your acting so defensive, i wasnt trying to start a debate in any way or form after my second post i was literally going on about how everyone has diff opinions
i dont see him as completely selfless at all either though, even if he is one of my favorites. If insulted you i deeply apoligize as that wasnt the intention at all
kenny haterspeople are just as bad as the hardcore kenny fans who spam shit.
You insulted me, i provided my reasons for not wanting … moreto have Kenny around. I dont hate Kenny, i just dont want him anywhere near my Clem. You see me as kenny hater or something yes? Im simply trying to be objective and people hate that. Im more annoyed at people who see Kenny as selfless hero who does everything to keep Clementine safe.
Actually it's his sanity that makes him a bad guy. He doesn't have an excuse.
* He threw Reggie off a roof because he wasn't clipping f… moreast enough.
* He nearly beat Kenny to death with the butt-end of a two-way radio.
* He nearly tortured Alvin to death.
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions then Carver must have his own private highway to hell... AC/DC style...
If you don't have Russell stick around and see them shot, the couple don't appear as Roman's watchdogs in Shel's story.
So who is to say what happened to them, if you don't have Russell stick around.
For all we know they could of been gunshots from somewhere else.
We heard the gunshots, and they are coming from the dinner. Two gun… moreshots, one for Walt and another for Jean.
We don't know what happened, we can only infer.
Oh, but we do know what happened. Walt is see in Shel´s story has a walker.
Also, if you stay with Nate you see Nate shot them.
I know. But you see Nate kill them if you stay with him, so, really, Nate surely killed them too even if you don´t stick around. They don´t appear as Roman´s watchdogs because Nate shot them in the head, instead of the chest.
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You don't really know that Nate killed those old people. All you know is you heard two gunshots. The old guy was shot in the chest, and the woman in the stomach.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
you didn't see Nate shoot anyone.
And? We heard the gunshots. What did you think he did, then?
For all we know they could of been gunshots from somewhere else. We don't know what happened, we can only infer.
For all we know after Russel leaves, Nate shoots his handgun off twice to make Russel think he did kill them, he leaves and they succumb to their wounds of their previous firefight.
We heard the gunshots, and they are coming from the dinner. Two gunshots, one for Walt and another for Jean.
Oh, but we do know what happened. Walt is see in Shel´s story has a walker.
Also, if you stay with Nate you see Nate shot them.
Correct
Maybe, Maybe not. We do not know where they came from. They could have came from inside or outside the dinner.
That doesn't prove Nate killed him. When they arrived on Scene both old people were shot already. The old guy was shot in the chest, where the old woman was shot in the gut.
Arvo.
Is pretty clear they come for inside the dinner.
Actually, it does. We see him as a walker only when you stay with Nate, and you watch him shoot Walt in the chest, then kill Jeane.
Walt was not shot. Only Jean. And she survived the gunshot after, so she was clearly fine... until psyco Nate came along and killed them.
The St. Johns would probably have my vote. But I do like how the Stranger was just a normal guy-"I coached Little League". I think that adds more depth to his character. But the St. Johns' story line dealt with a taboo subject that garners a lot of fascination, especially witnessing the realism and depravity Telltale put into it. The family unit gives the characters complex relationships -Danny's jealousy, Brenda mourning her husband and favoring Andy over Danny, ect. The player can discover a lot about them just by looking around and dissecting the hidden meanings and intentions in their dialogues. Good storytelling is when something can be inferred by the reader, rather than just told upfront about it.
Carver's character seemed promising in the beginning, but I think he devolved into a stereotypical villain in Episode 3. He just wasn't given enough development.
Oh yeah i forgot about that... Well I'm sure he had his reasons ^_^
Why isn't there a Vernon option? I'm still mad at him.
More seriously, the Stranger was the best, hands down. He wasn't a cannibal or a bandit lurking in the woods or a megalomaniac dictator or a monster. He was just some guy, a dad who coached Little League. He is one of the most tragic characters in the entire series.
Well old people were going to die anyways. It was just a matter of time.
Leaving aside that those same old people survived 181 days into the apocalypse, and that dissaproves your entery "argument"... How does them being old make killing then rigth?
I wanted to pick Carver but I went with the stranger instead because I really didn't expect the villain to be the guy who owned the car that we stole from,and I loved his final confrontation with Lee.
I think he means they were going to die because the old lady was shot and was probably going to die, the old guy might have been able to make it though.
She survived the gunshot, after hours. She was fine.
St. johns, stranger and carver by a long shot
Not in Russel story, but he was the villian in Wyatt and Eddie's
Yeah i doubted about Nate but he's the antagonist on Wyatt's story so i put it here.
No Nate isn't a villian in Russel's story but he is on Wyatt's story
Maybe, maybe not, realistically speaking she'd probably die but since this is The Walking Dead and everyone seems to shrug off bullet wounds I'll say you're probably right, who knows what the hell is wrong with Nate though, I would have shot her in the head, can't understand why he didn't, I mean I wouldn't have killed any of them but if I were going to kill them it would be with a bullet to the head.
I guess, but wouldn't that make Roman's group villains too?
I mean they are clearly the antagonists in Bonnie's story, but you play as them in Shel's...
I guess Nate is more of a bad guy though, and you probably should have included Arvo or at least his group since they were bandits, I mean Arvo didn't really seem like a villain to me either but he was acting as a distraction for a bandit attack that one time so...
Not that it matters since the St. John's and the Stranger are the best villains in the game anyway.
Don't know why you couldn't consider Arvo a villain. He did get a bunch of his friends with him whom later tried to kill Clem's group and later on he then shot her in the shoulder. That's all antagonist material.
Eddie killed Nate's friend, I might as well say Eddie is the villian too.
She was gut shot, there was no way she was going to survive that without medical treatment. The old man was shot in his chest.
The most deadly of them all.
I always assumed that Alvin was tortured because he was with Rebecca, when Carver clearly wanted that position.
I know they're as good as dead but I've had a similar argument with this guy before and I'd rather just give up now :P
I think the St Johns were the best villains so far.
They weren't evil for the sake of being evil, like Carver, and they weren't batshit crazy (except Danny) like Nate.
You might say now:
'They were eating people, that's pretty goddamn crazy!'
I say it was more an act of desperation than crazyness. They were starving, and that's the only way out they saw. It was wrong, and I think deep down they know what they were doing, but couldn't help it, they feared to otherwise die. The stranger on the other hand didn't have control anymore.
Sure, you might say they had enough other food to eat and didn't need flesh. What if they hadn't?
It could all just have been a lie. The food (except the flesh) that they served Lee's group was really all they had left. They just wanted to lure people and lull them in so they won't realize they'll soon be the food, and the St Johns always served the same food.
What they served Lee was what they had served every poor soul before eating them. Makes them way more interesting than Carver or Nate, or the stranger.
I also like the fact you first saw them as friendly people. You did know something was off, because it's The Walking Dead, but not until close to the finale.
Carver always was the bad guy. Never a single 'good' scene, over and over proving he's the baddie. Nate was not really a villain imo, more an antagonist (and no, that's not really the same). The stranger was just a sad fuck that had lost everything and went nuts over it.
But the St Johns were interesting. Didn't stop me from killing Danny and leaving Andrew for dead, though :P
The St Johns were pretty dope.
I'll go with them.
im really confused on why your acting so defensive, i wasnt trying to start a debate in any way or form after my second post i was literally going on about how everyone has diff opinions
You insulted me, i provided my reasons for not wanting to have Kenny around. I dont hate Kenny, i just dont want him anywhere near my Clem. You see me as kenny hater or something yes? Im simply trying to be objective and people hate that. Im more annoyed at people who see Kenny as selfless hero who does everything to keep Clementine safe.
i dont see him as completely selfless at all either though, even if he is one of my favorites. If insulted you i deeply apoligize as that wasnt the intention at all
Carver made Heisenberg look like small time crook.
If you don't have Russell stick around and see them shot, the couple don't appear as Roman's watchdogs in Shel's story.
So who is to say what happened to them, if you don't have Russell stick around.
I know. But you see Nate kill them if you stay with him, so, really, Nate surely killed them too even if you don´t stick around. They don´t appear as Roman´s watchdogs because Nate shot them in the head, instead of the chest.