I just realized something...
In the walking dead Season 1.... we heard from the cop when we look at the radio thing that "You gotta stop worrying about things you don't have control over." It pretty much foreshadows the entirety of season 1 and what it was gonna be.
But I think we can all agree the moral standing and character relationships played a big part in the game and why it made it successful. Realistically speaking, there are situations where it goes beyond your control. Such as Lily shooting Doug or Carly, Kenny smashing Larry's head in because these are heat of the moments where whatever you do, shit's not going to turn out well as you expect.
While situations which places us in jeopardy, such as the drugstore, we do get to see our choice affect the story, and how we integrate ourselves in the story. Choosing either Carly or Doug pretty much sets the stage where you can't save everyone in a desperate situation.
But we see just how much certain actions and decisions don't really matter. Its because they aren't supposed to matter. While indeed we did get to see some unique character and story interaction, in a long shot somethings get so broken they can't be fixed.
Especially when Lee got infected.
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Telltale writers of EP4: Sarah
Sarah: yeah?
writers: you will become a determinant character.
Sarah crying and screaming for her dad
Writers you gotta stop worrying about things you don't have control over.
Honestly I felt that the writers killed off Sarah because the fans didn't like her.... Which is stupid considering she is a sheltered socially inept girl with a a disability. (It was implied by Carlos in episode 1) she has more reason than any to be sympathized and looked after. I felt the hate against her by Ted gamers was practically disgusting.
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Well, IMO it was a "survival of the fittest" scenario... To (mis)quote Carver (I disliked him intensely BUT he has got a point) :
" (S)he kept things light. You need folks like that... It's easy to let depression sink in during times like this. But (s)he was weak [...]. (S)he was weak of will. Weak of character. And we can't have that around here... not anymore."
Sarah was becoming a danger to the group.
Jesus! what's next
Regardless, she would had been capable of being instrumental. Plus she ie a kid still, a few years ahead of form. It won't be easy for her because she was thrust into an unfamiliar setting while Clementine was slowly being revealed to the situation over the course of season 1. Plus, Sarah would had been thaught to defend herself, show her how things are working or how they turn and prepare her for the situation. If we had time to prepare Sarah fully into defending herself she wouldn't be a burden. Plus kids themselves will always be burdened, but we can't leave them to such gruesome fates.
That whole car ride is full of bits of foreshadowing. The cop only tells you stop worrying about things you can't control if you keep looking at the radio, which makes it a message kind of for more active players looking for things to click on. He also talks about how people will go crazy when they think their life is over, which we see about dozen times before the end. And the part where you pick a response to the line about Lee's wife shows the player you actually don't have total control over Lee, since he won't actually say it.
It's actually a pretty brilliant scene in it's simplicity.
Are you sure about this I will fight back
So is Clem. Sarah just didn't have the mentality to adapt. Do you really think that Carlos was able to completely hide everything about the ZA from Sarah? Maybe later on, but in the initial stages of the outbreak? Carlos would have had to have fled whatever city they lived in, and from what happened in Macon, we can see that things were pretty grim.
Cool. I didn't pick up on that when I played it.
But it wasn't her fault. Unlike Lee, Carlos didn't tell Sarah about how bad the outbreak has become. Sure he could not hide everything from her, but even in the middle of the apocalypse he would had taught her the necessities of survival at its simplest stage.
Unfortunately Sarah's behaviour and actions all throughout the season seem to contradict that.
So Sarah´s behaviour and actions, which happen because Carlos didn't teach her anything, somehow contradicts that Sarah would have handled herself better if Carlos actually taught her.
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I have no words for this, really.
What I meant was that it contradicts the statement that Carlos taught
They did do that in pretty much all episodes. They always said something in the intro of the episode wich was forceshadowing the rest of the episode. For example s1e2 you have the choise to chop of David's leg to save him. Same episode Mark gets his legs cut off. They are not always connected but they are always hinting.
You missuderstood him/her. That means that Carlos should have at least taugth Sarah the basics of survival, not that he did.
What the OP is saying is that Carlos DID teach her the basics of survival (grammatically anyway)
would had presumingly is would have, meaning that Carlos might have taught Sarah basic survival skills. My reply to OP's comment is that that possibility is contradicted by Sarah's actions.
So was Kenny, who at the same time as Sarah's meltdown is waxing nostalgic about being beaten to near-death and determinately keeping his zombie-infected wife around until the very last second. He also runs INTO a swarm of zombies like a lunatic where as if Sarah's still alive she goes with the others to safety. Yet everyone is badgering Clem about "getting through to Kenny" including Jane next episode who goes from calling Kenny a bomb to hoping Clem can reach him.
And AJ is a much bigger drain on the group than Sarah. He's literally helpless and the only thing he can do is cry, which will draw attention. It'll literally take years of constant care and lots of food and water before he can even walk. Let a long doing anything remotely useful. This isn't factoring in bothering to teach him how to speak and read. He's not going to be much of a survivor if he can't even understand what the hell people are saying to him.
So a grieving sheltered teenager is a liability because she isn't over the death of her father in less than a day and show's little survival prowess after receiving absolutely no guidance on how to survive. She must be left behind. But we should commit years of time and resources to raising a newborn and constantly try to placate a grief-stricken increasingly violent man with psychotic tendencies.
Raising a baby in the ZA must be hard. But I'd be mortified to leave/abandon a completely helpless child.
would have, meaning that Carlos would have taugth Sarah the basics of survival, but didn´t do it.
yes, that's what I'm saying in the second half of my comment.
I didn´t mean that.
I mean that Carlos would have taugth Sarah the basics of survival if he wanted to, but he didn´t do it. That it was Carlos mistake. And than that was what Mastersarge300 was saying
Mark is full of foreshadowing.
Mark turns into a zombie, and he still helps you by killing Brenda St. John. He took having your back to the grave and beyond. =D
There's also Lilly's line about the station wagon. "If these people come back, then we're just monsters who came out of the woods and ruined their lives." All though I'm pretty sure she only said that to spite Kenny. =P
Carlos could have taught Sarah survival skills but didn't.
He sheltered her too much. She was past the possibility of even learning basics by the time she met Clem. And, I think even before the ZA she was "fragile"
Yeah. I loved that. They would hint things in such smart ways. Didn 't really notice anything major in season 2 though.
No? She didn't even know when to keep quiet, even when Clem told her to be quiet.
Yes
No,
Propably.
Season 2 is the opposite. It's full of obvious set-ups that have no actual payoff or resolution.
Probably all stuff that got lost in rewrites or cut to meet deadlines. =/
Yeah... I was so dissapointed that that wasn 't in season 2. In season one they were so smartly placed and in season 2 they were pretty much spoiling the whole thing. I think that that was the one thing that really pissed me off about the season.
You choice to bring him to the hospital
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ALan pretty much sums up the point I was coming across.
And yeah she was pretty fragile before the apocalypse. Most socially disabled kids are.But they don't normally stay like that forever.