The show gets too much shit from ttg's /FANS/. Opinions & s5e1 [tldr;WATCH IT]

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  • Isn't that the complaint with 'main characters' in the game, such as Kenny and Clem?

    Tinni posted: »

    I don't dislike him at all, I just don't like that there really is no fear or trepidation that he can die. For me, that's what makes the aud

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    That little girl was adorable, but I understand why they killed her. She was meant to be a reflection of Sophia for Carol, a sort of reaffirmation that you can't be soft and sweet in this world, you have to change,toughen up, and sometimes sacrifice your humanity in order to survive. Like Sophia, Mika wasn't able to grasp this, and it ended up doing her in. Still, it would have been nice to see another child close to Carl's age in the apocalypse.

    Ellias posted: »

    rip mika

  • edited October 2014

    Kenny's death is determinate, so he did die. Besides, I never thought he was safe, I was constantly hoping he would survive. And with Clem, we're playing as her, and seeing as the last main character we played as died, I don't think they wanted to end the season in the same way. It would come off as recycled and unoriginal.

    Bokor posted: »

    Isn't that the complaint with 'main characters' in the game, such as Kenny and Clem?

  • just look at the flowers lizzie

  • How is that invalid in any way? If a whole season of a show is utter bollocks then it's simply not worth watching altogether as far as I'm concerned. My contribution to this discussion could influence someone's decision to watch it, making what I say by all means acceptable. You seem to despise Season 2 of TWDG simply because of one character's death.... Now that's what I'd call a moot opinion.

    It's plain stupid to say that I have to watch the ENTIRE show to develop a valid opinion of it. If the first two seasons barely engaged me and the third was a shambles, then I think I can fairly go ahead and say it's bad. (In my opinion)

    Ellias posted: »

    it's invalid how you say the show is a disaster when you didn't even watch season 4 or 3 maybe so don't talk. You have rights to say which ever season you saw is bad but have a good reason too or you'll look like another ignorant telltale fan.

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    I actually like the show much more than the comics. I bought myself a volume of the comic series and didn't really enjoy it that much. The pacing just felt too fast, as if the writer was trying to get it over with. But in the show, the pacing was solid. And the stories felt more interesting honestly (well except S2 was rather boring, I kept begging "LEAVE THE FARM!" so when it happened, I was thankful to the walkers about that), I liked S1, kinda annoyed of S2, but when S3: the Governor arc came it was captivating and it was got me eternally hooked to the franchise and absolutely loved the seasons after that one. There still moments where it drags a bit much but I don't let bother too much. The show had its ups and downs but it is a great showed overall.

    I'm really excited for this Season as to where it will go. The premiere was just explosively awesome.

  • If Carl dies we riot

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    How is that invalid in any way? If a whole season of a show is utter bollocks then it's simply not worth watching altogether as far as I'm concerned.

    stopped after that, you're already wrong.

    different writers, better well written stories.

    Hazzer posted: »

    How is that invalid in any way? If a whole season of a show is utter bollocks then it's simply not worth watching altogether as far as I'm c

  • Well, season 4 was good, but the beginning was absolute garbage with the illness spreading. Seriously, that made absolutely zero fucking sense.

  • But everything that I watched was either mediocre or bad. I don't want to haul myself through more of that to get to the supposedly good sections of the show.

    Ellias posted: »

    How is that invalid in any way? If a whole season of a show is utter bollocks then it's simply not worth watching altogether as far as I'm concerned. stopped after that, you're already wrong. different writers, better well written stories.

  • What about it didn't make sense? There are dead bodies everywhere. Eventually, some sicknesses are going to get around.

    aldimon posted: »

    Well, season 4 was good, but the beginning was absolute garbage with the illness spreading. Seriously, that made absolutely zero fucking sense.

  • Ive liked every season but sometimes I get bored with some of the episodes, like the ones where they completely focus on taking care of sick people or the one where the govenor is just talking to people in an apartment for a whole episode, the ones about them just travelling to terminus were pretty lame too, the high tense parts were well done but I feel like there was a lot of drag in between them

  • I also noticed the fans on this forum bashed the show unjustly most of the times. I personally liked pretty much every season. Sure, there were some cliche or predictable moments, but nothing is perfect.

    Contrary to popular belief, the third season of the show despite it's somewhat slow pacing is my favorite one, and I also thought the second season was good. However, my problem is the second half of the fourth season with it's filler episodes and cheesy moments. Will I watch season 5? Yes, I most probably will, but not until a couple of episodes air.

  • Not the fact that a sickness got around, but the sickness itself was completely unrealistic and the way they overcame that crisis was stupid as hell as well. The rest of the season was great.

    KCohere posted: »

    What about it didn't make sense? There are dead bodies everywhere. Eventually, some sicknesses are going to get around.

  • Gary Oak is Kewl

    Gary-Oak posted: »

    I have watched it, i couldn't stand it. If i have to watch another episode of it, i will drown myself.

  • It's really ironic that you say that with a Bleach icon xD

  • 3rd season is my favorite too

    I also noticed the fans on this forum bashed the show unjustly most of the times. I personally liked pretty much every season. Sure, there w

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    Season 4's overall story was trash. The only time Ive been mad at the show is when the Governor died, no, not because I liked him. They dedicate 2 whole episodes to JUST him, then he returns to the main plot the next episode and dies after a deadly, but VERY brief confrontation. Why the hell did I watch 2 episodes of that just so he can die? So worthless. Lilly's role was also forced, seemed like they just added that part so it could follow more closely to the comics, it seemed so pointless the way she killed him. Did anyone think that her coming there added anything good? Would anyone not have been fine with Michonne just stabbing him and Lilly's role excluded?

    Then we had the VERY protracted second half of the season. It was interesting seeing the different character dynamics, but it just lasted far too long, they should have met up after a few episodes.

    Finally, theres just the ridiculous moments that the show has now. The extremely overdrawn dramatic scenes, I was laughing in the first episode of S5. Glenn, Bob, Rick and Darryl, kneeling over the trough with 4 random people. Just as the guy is about hit Glenn, that guy walks in and interrupts with inane paperwork that clearly cant wait for them to finish. And would you look at that, they killed the four random people first, HOW CONVENIENT. Then he raises the bat 2 more times before the explosion happens JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME!

    Things are just becoming so farfetched, I dont know how much more Im going to watch.

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    I don't see how it can be anymore unrealistic than people rising from the dead and then eating the living. There are some things you just have to let slide, given the universe this is all set in. For example, it seems that in TWD they've never even heard of zombies, which I personally find odd, but that's the reality the characters live in. I actually found the illness to be somewhat realistic, given they don't have any of the resources they had prior to the apocalypse, not only is it probable that a viral sickness (that under normal circumstances could be easily treated) could wipe them out, but they also have no idea what they're dealing with.

    aldimon posted: »

    Not the fact that a sickness got around, but the sickness itself was completely unrealistic and the way they overcame that crisis was stupid as hell as well. The rest of the season was great.

  • Never heard of zombies is only a thing in the TV series, not in the comic counterpart.

    Yeah, but people rising from the dead and eating the living is logical in it's own universe context. However, how they handled the sickness stuff was... let's say, my brother is a doctor, and I watched it with him, and he was surprised how stupid it was handled.

    Thank god, the rest of the season was stunning. Especially the second part was amazing.

    Tinni posted: »

    I don't see how it can be anymore unrealistic than people rising from the dead and then eating the living. There are some things you just ha

  • It wasn't. One of the great things about Breaking Bad was that Vince Gilligan told his story, and with that I mean his, no fan service etc.

    And Gilligan thought it was a good ending. And how right he was, couldn't have ended better.

    Ehkay posted: »

    Look how many people liked Breaking Bad and it got cancelled.

  • Same here. I couldn't really get into the comics. I love the show much more. By the way, how ya doing Tobi? :)

    I actually like the show much more than the comics. I bought myself a volume of the comic series and didn't really enjoy it that much. The p

  • edited November 2014

    I know, I meant in TV canon. Sorry I should have been more clear.

    I'm no medical expert, but it probably could have been handled better. I think they did alright though, and it could have been a lot worse.

    I loved the second half of season 4, you're right it was stunning.

    aldimon posted: »

    Never heard of zombies is only a thing in the TV series, not in the comic counterpart. Yeah, but people rising from the dead and eating t

  • edited October 2014

    What did they do wrong? Keeping in mind, the situation they were in, no hospital, only one doctor, and one veterinarian, the sickness spread so fast they couldn't contain it, and zombies. I also enjoyed the second part of the season a lot for the character development, eventhough I missed my sheriff in the eps he wasn't in, lol.

    aldimon posted: »

    Never heard of zombies is only a thing in the TV series, not in the comic counterpart. Yeah, but people rising from the dead and eating t

  • I guess that depends on what you like. I didnt find any of that boring, but I enjoy character moments.

    Kennysucks posted: »

    Ive liked every season but sometimes I get bored with some of the episodes, like the ones where they completely focus on taking care of sick

  • I agree with you about the second and third season, particularly season 2 which I think is underrated. I disagree about season 4, I dont think any of that was filler. It was all about getting to know the characters better.

    I also noticed the fans on this forum bashed the show unjustly most of the times. I personally liked pretty much every season. Sure, there w

  • They couldnt reintroduce the governor without explaining what happened to him or people would be up in arms about that. I enjoyed the governor episodes eventhough I hate him as a character.

    As for the "convenient" moments. Have you watched a tv show before? Lol. Of course the non-essentials were going to die instead of our group. It was still a horrific scene.

    Apples posted: »

    Season 4's overall story was trash. The only time Ive been mad at the show is when the Governor died, no, not because I liked him. They dedi

  • They should have cut that down to half an episode, hell they could have added a random guy to do it instead. It was just a 2 episode build up for him to die, felt very excessive.

    I have watched TV before and the good ones do drama with a bit of tact. Theres nothing worse in a show or film where the suspense is far too overdrawn. It really pulls you out of the scene and disengages you from the peril the person is because youre so easily able to see through the terrible directing. It was laughable scene, a pathetic one at that.

    This may be my personal taste, but I hate it when random characters are introduced and all of them simply die to "increase the stakes". The one redeeming part of those 2 governor episodes is that at least some of it is preserved with Tara (thats her name right?) surviving. It means that they actually meant something in the long run, even if her relationship with her father and governor dont seem to drive her character in any way, at least its some backstory. I didnt really like any of the prison characters, but I wanted to see at least one of them join the group, to continue that legacy, but they just picked them off one at a time per episode like clockwork.

    Back to the trough, why were there 4 of them? There could have easily been 1 or 2 of them, nope they had to lengthen that suspense. Terrible directors like to lengthen suspense scenes, believing people become more engrossed the longer it lasts. The opposite is always true, you have to end it the moment people get to the edge of their seats, not a moment after. If its too late, the audience becomes apprehensive of the scene and disengage. Too short is often better, you dont get the full effect of the anxiety the audience would feel, but at least it doesnt disengage your audience for them to see what a sham the scene is.

    Again, back to the trough. Paperwork? I know theyre trying to portray the villains as heartless bureaucrats, but I dont buy that he would interrupt them for that, especially since he was present when they pulled Rick and co. out of the freight car. He knows exactly what theyre doing and how long it takes. Obviously he planned on questioning Rick, but walking in with the clipboard was laughable as well.

    KCohere posted: »

    They couldnt reintroduce the governor without explaining what happened to him or people would be up in arms about that. I enjoyed the govern

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    I thought Mika's death was more tragic than Lizzies, because Carol got it in her head that Mika was soft and wasn't fit to survive. But about halfway through The Grove episode she actually did start to toughen up. A lot. She brained a few walkers, and proved she had a much better grasp of the Apocalypse situation than her sister. Had she been allowed to live and remain under the tutelage of Carol, and the rest of the group, I think she would've been alright.

  • Same. There was hope for Mika to change and survive, but her sister, who she repeatedly said wasn't well around adults, killed her. I felt that maybe if the adults had heed her warning, then maybe she would have lived. Like I said before, I would have liked to see a child a little bit younger than Carl surviving the apocalypse. It would have made sense for her to live, because Sophia lived in the comics, so Mika would be able to fill in for that role.

    Black-Op1 posted: »

    I thought Mika's death was more tragic than Lizzies, because Carol got it in her head that Mika was soft and wasn't fit to survive. But abou

  • Well, of course that is your personal taste. I dont see anything wrong with building tension, and it seems to irritate you. I think it was four of them to balance the four people from our group and to, yes, build the horror of having three guys see this horrible murder, only to realize they are next. The guy who directed this episode certainly isn't terrible, he's done quite a few shows, as well as all the makeup effects.

    Apples posted: »

    They should have cut that down to half an episode, hell they could have added a random guy to do it instead. It was just a 2 episode build u

  • CrazyGeorge is Kewl

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Gary Oak is Kewl

  • And I already answered that I am waiting for Gareth and ***** to show up and see where it leads from there. But by how damn slow the show is going at it will be season 12 before we get there.

    KCohere posted: »

    If you hate it so much why are you watching it? That is what makes no sense to me. I already answered the Breaking Bad thing, if you read it.

  • lol that's like me stopping after episode 3 of s2 and saying the rest will be utter wasted potential chicken shit. 4 was cow shit but 5 was amazing.

    Point is, different writers; possible well written good stories.

    Hazzer posted: »

    But everything that I watched was either mediocre or bad. I don't want to haul myself through more of that to get to the supposedly good sections of the show.

  • It wasn't cancelled, the story had finished.

    Ehkay posted: »

    Look how many people liked Breaking Bad and it got cancelled.

  • There's a difference between playing through a couple short TWD game episodes that I paid for and then grinding through dozens of lengthy TV show episodes. The latter is much more boring and not worth the effort.

    Ellias posted: »

    lol that's like me stopping after episode 3 of s2 and saying the rest will be utter wasted potential chicken shit. 4 was cow shit but 5 was amazing. Point is, different writers; possible well written good stories.

  • oh you paid for them!! good fucking job!! As if tv shows are free anyways. You pay for that service.

    The good thing about this is there's alot so there's more to discuss about and more characters and stories. It's twdg but x3.

    Hazzer posted: »

    There's a difference between playing through a couple short TWD game episodes that I paid for and then grinding through dozens of lengthy TV show episodes. The latter is much more boring and not worth the effort.

  • After having two seasons of pointless filler where people waste time until the finale, having filler that was about character fears and aspirations was way better than anything the series did until then. I'll take downtime where we progress a character over static action scenes any day.

    KCohere posted: »

    I agree with you about the second and third season, particularly season 2 which I think is underrated. I disagree about season 4, I dont think any of that was filler. It was all about getting to know the characters better.

  • Nah, believe me, I didn't pay for the TV show episodes. Those characters and stories you describe are either mediocre or shit, so uh... Blargh. Not Shane Walsh, though. He was an awesomely complex and well done character and Jon Bernthal's an awesome guy as well as a stud.

    Ellias posted: »

    oh you paid for them!! good fucking job!! As if tv shows are free anyways. You pay for that service. The good thing about this is there's alot so there's more to discuss about and more characters and stories. It's twdg but x3.

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    Hazzer posted: »

    Nah, believe me, I didn't pay for the TV show episodes. Those characters and stories you describe are either mediocre or shit, so uh... Blar

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