Should Clem be a little more... Happy?
Yes I know that will take away from her bad ass side but, I want her to have a little more emotion in her voice. Sure she lost a lot, and she's a child. That's just what I want.
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Happy Clem > Badass Clem
Thank you!
No, almost every single person she knew and loved is dead. There's no reason for her to be happy. Why do you think she was such an emotionless blob in Season 2. Besides, old Clem is dead and was replaced with new and better EDGY CLEM.
I'd like the option to be happy, unless the situation is 100% dire.
Yes.maybe not even completely happy, but some fucking emotion would be nice.
Juice box
I don´t blame her for not being happy. I wish she was, but her life sucks. I like her as she is, unemotional or not.
Not happy per se, but I want to hear more personality and lightness in her voice, even if it's somewhat sarcastic and dark. S2 Clem was a lot like a teenager: dour, mopey, brash and unsure of what she wants. I want S3 Clem to be more self-assured and mature, having established who she is and who she wants to be, at least to some extent.
Everyone she gets close to dies.
I wouldn't be happy either
Hell no, she shouldn't be happy. But I don't think she should be Sylvester Stallone either in terms of badassery. She's eleven.
I love transformation in characters so much and I think telltale did great. Why should she be happy? She's lost almost everyone she cares about, for anyone else that would turn them psychotic. And what's everybody talking about cringeworthy badass moments? The only time I thought was cringeworthy was when she kicked that door down, but I just laughed it off. Her fight scenes aren't over the top badass, they're actually pretty believable for a girl who's gone through 2+ years of the zombie apocalypse.
derp jane
Absolutely, I would much rather have a happy little girl than a cold emotionless survivor....
What does she have to be happy about?
Being written to follow a group of idiots and fuck-up's through their demise as she is forcibly also written to not kill a psychopathic redneck that only lowers her survival odds until the end of the game in a "climatic finale."
Then having the writer's favor a drooling whining new-born over a young girl that, at least, had purpose in the narrative and wasn't just shoe-horned in to get the bleeding-hearts to care for it's safety. Then getting the writer's to favor said psychotic-bumbling-assface-Kenny over a character as interesting as Jane.
I'd be depressed too if I lived in a sub-par writer's head.
She shouldn't be exactly happy. Do keep in mind almost all of the season (barr the intro and the determinant 9 days later ending) takes place in the space of like, what, 2 weeks?
Not even taking into account the guilt riddled memories and mental trauma from the last years, at the start she was starving and freezing in the open air, then almost died in a river separated from her caretaker from the last year, then pretty much moving on the road for the next 5 days with little rest, then taken prisoner, followed by a couple more days of starvation, followed by being shot, getting caught in a car crash in the middle of a blizzard then having to choose between one of two (or neither) of the people who care about you. Don't forget having to deal with the strain of the deaths of your fellow survivors and constant stress of petty, intergroup politics and eternal worry of outside problems (Carver, bandits, general Walkers etc).
If I were her, the only thing I would be happy about is the fact I survived through all of that. All things considered, I'm surprised Clementine even managed to crack a smile in the middle of it all.
I understand where people go with this, honestly I do. Happy Clementine > Edgy Clementine. Some parts obviously annoyed me as well, like her constant and often unnecessary sassiness to Luke, who was honestly the most optimistic person throughout the Season. But considering everything that happened, I think Clementine could have ended up looking a lot more worse and miserable and it would have been difficult to portray her any happier in the circumstances. Do keep in mind that some of the people with her didn't exactly promote happiness either.
Maybe some stability at Wellington/Howes/Alone and away from people that argue will bring back a more refreshed, emotional, familiar personality. I agree about the voice though, that's slightly bugged me. A drop was expected, but it's far more monotone than I'd like.
She should have moments where she is at least briefly happy. Just little bits to remind us that she does indeed want be happy actually, even if she doesn't have many opportunities. I really wanted a scene where Sarah tempts Clem into acting her age and even if you refuse you can see that Clem actually did want to act like a kid for a little bit and feels pressured into acting older by circumstances.
"Clem! I saw a tree house out back!"
"Come on Sarah, that's for kids..."
"We are kids..."
yes she needs to be more happy
2spooky4me
Well I've been analyzing choice branch in dialogue and studying her personality for some time, just finished analyzing All That Remains last night, currently studying A House Divided. Anyway I noticed Clem in S2 has more emotion in her face and voice in the first few episodes. She actually smiles a more often than in Ep3 and up. I mean look at Sam, she smiled a shit load before THAT moment. By memory I remember seeing her in Ep3 and 4 she's less happy and more cold, but in episode 5 it tried to regained some of that happiness. It feels like Ep 3 and 4 writers didn't understand Clem as much Nick Breckon did for this season.
So yeah she did have moments of being happy and smiling early on, later episodes overlooked her emotion and in the final tried to give her back that emotion.
Clem hates tree houses. =P
I was actually thinking a set of swings Sarah wants to play on. She invites Clem to swing with her and if you say no, Sarah tries to spin it into a competition. Asserting she can jump further from the swing than Clem can. It could be a quicktime event if you accept her challenge. But if you still say no, Sarah just swings without Clem and you see Clem watching Sarah have fun and you can tell she really wants to go over there. And afterwards Sarah can offer to push Clem to see how much higher she could swing. Just a short little scene somewhere in between the action that acknowledges that even if Clem believes she has to be cold to survive, she doesn't want to be.
YES PLS
HAPPY CLEM
inb4 modders will paste a clem with HappyCX.anm
Clementine probably has PTSD. After watching every person she loved die horribly, i mean come on. If Sarah had it, Clementine has it.
Its a disease that makes you feel like a zombie, so she probably doesn't feel happy or sad or pretty much anything anymore. She should be a pint size version of yours Truly if you want a real representation.
That's not derp, that's shock at Clem's action.
What does she have to be happy for other than being alive? The reason she's not happy is because she has seen almost everyone around her and all the people she loved die or become walkers, she blames herself for Lee's death, and she was with Christa, who blamed her for the death of Omid and probably made her feel like shit about it 24/7, for 16 months, surviving out in the woods without other people. Like CrazyGeorge said, it's probably PTSD, but it may also be survivor's guilt, especially in the case of Lee, and this has a serious effect on her psyche. It has made her emotionally hardened, she isn't phased by the events around her and, in a way, knows that everyone around her will wind up dead eventually. Who would be happy about that?
From my own personal experience these two usually come hand to hand.
Hopefully if they're going PTSD route i hope they go the whole route, If they make clementine a emotionless canvas, it'll be another S2 all over again. I want to see clementine experience the truth of PTSD. I want to see everything that she has been through cause her to crumble.
Auditory hallucinations
Anger-
Isolation, wanting to be alone.
drug abuse/alcohol abuse
"risky" behavior
CLEM.W.A.
Well a few more wise cracking jokes never hurt, but I am happy we got something from her. But I suppose you are referring to the pleasant and nice conversations we use to have with the gal. Unfortunately those are too far and in-between all the horrible shit she puts up with. Almost everyone she comes across is usually hostile, so a nice conversation to have can't be helped if one person always has an attitude.
The problem is not Clementine, it's the world around her.
At times yes, but not too happy. Not as happy as she was in Season One. Clementine has been through a lot, and there's no possible way she's going to ever regain her humanity, childhood or even life back after the horrific ordeals she's gone through.
you go bug-eyed when you get shocked?
I think it would be cool if she was like a little more happier, but if someone made her angry or some walkers were coming..... she would become badass.... but then when you think of it, look what Clementine has gone through, she had to shoot lee, saw her parents undead, watched luke die, got shot, watched so many other people die
I transition to a shocked face which when paused randomly might look strange.
too late xD
Happy?
In the zombie apocalypse?
Robert Kirkman is rolling in his mountain-high stack of money while laughing.
Clementine doesn't have PTSD.
Look at the symptoms Sarah had: Not wanting to move, wanting to be quiet, didn't want anything to do with anyone, wanted to believe her father was still alive after witnessing his demise.
Now compare those to Clementine. If she has it, everyone would complain that she's a liability and that she's useless and spend most gameplay doing nothing but sitting around and being depressed.
Sure, Clementine has lost more than Sarah, but it doesn't mean she has a disorder. She can simply handle stuff like that more better than Sarah. I'd say it's more of survivors guilt than PTSD.
@Jewfreeus Sorry Jewf, I have my own stash of Clem smiling :x
but....but your clem doesn't have a epic moustache
Clem isnt happy or badass shes just edgy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9qoX3oPxws