"They don't get to live"

24

Comments

  • Oh my God, that's horrible, why would you do this to me? That's worse than what Rick did to Gareth.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    no this is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDL0N4842MU

  • edited October 2014

    But we did give Arvo a second chance, and then he shot us. We gave Bonnie a second chance, and she betrayed us again. Mike was the only one who didn't do anything wrong before, so maybe I could live with him. MAYBE.

    Twistee posted: »

    I would forgive them. Even Arvo. Everyone deserves second chances IMO.

  • edited October 2014

    someone have to make a tribute to Clem and Kenny with that music . In the "dont stop me now" you can show Kenny smash Larry's head with a salt lick, show him killing carver or beating arvo, show they racing to the top in the "having a good time". LOL. Its weird, but cool :P; you can start with the hug scene. please someone do that :D

    bloop posted: »

    Yeah I want them dead too, I'll slowly kill them to this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdboPmJjSG4&feature=player_detailpage Clem and Kenny are gonna have a good time.

  • Lame

    Those three aren't even remotely close to the horrible levels of fucking awful and depraved that the Termites were. If Bonnie is with the

  • [removed]

    Twistee posted: »

    I would forgive them. Even Arvo. Everyone deserves second chances IMO.

  • Fuck you for being so stupid to believe that. You actually think they'll kill off Rick?

  • Alt text

    badassm posted: »

    Fuck you for being so stupid to believe that. You actually think they'll kill off Rick?

  • edited October 2014

    Whatever buddy.

    It's just my opinion, like I said. I'd rather forgive than live in hatred, sorry if that pisses you off for some reason.

  • They are free to live. Just not anywhere I live.

  • It's the truth though.

    badassm posted: »

    Lame

  • Like I said, you would die. Who would forgive people who fucked you over more than once? Especially leaving you to fucking die?! Any rational person would take that personal and would hold a grudge over that, everything isn't meant to be forgiven, that's just stupid. It is natural to have hatred for people who did that to you, it's human.

    Twistee posted: »

    Whatever buddy. It's just my opinion, like I said. I'd rather forgive than live in hatred, sorry if that pisses you off for some reason.

  • edited October 2014

    If I get the chance, I'll take Arvo's leg brace, shoot him in the other leg, shoot Bonnie and Mike in the kneecaps making them unable to walk, take all their supplies, vehicle if they have one, except for one protein bar and leave them to bleed out or fight to the death over the food. I'll give them the same treatment they gave Clem and AJ, but with a few new additions. I said it once, I'll say it again. Fuck Arvo, Mike, and Bonnie.

  • lololol

    Enters thread

  • Well that's harsh. It's not their fault, you don't need to say that.

    badassm posted: »

    Fuck you for being so stupid to believe that. You actually think they'll kill off Rick?

  • im not going to shit on anyone but you will not survive, wel i wouldnt either if it was a real ZA cuz i would suck at it, but if i was to manage to build some survival skills and survive it would lead me to that. i would try to be like Joel, or the way i played my lee. Goddamn it no half measures.

  • Unneeded input.

    badassm posted: »

    Lame

  • everything isn't meant to be forgiven, that's just stupid

    Just because they'd forgive them doesn't mean they'd forgive EVERYONE they come across that shits in their cereal. I, personally, would forgive Mike and Bonnie. But I won't forgive Arvo, considering he almost killed Clementine.

    You know what your problem is? You insult people who don't have the same opinion as you. And you know what that is? Wrong. How about you stick to your own opinion, and don't shove it or your hatred down their throat.

    badassm posted: »

    Like I said, you would die. Who would forgive people who fucked you over more than once? Especially leaving you to fucking die?! Any rationa

  • rekt

    everything isn't meant to be forgiven, that's just stupid Just because they'd forgive them doesn't mean they'd forgive EVERYONE they

  • Yeah I want to kill them.

  • How the heck do they even compare?

    The termites tried to kill the group and EAT THEM. I mean shit 70%+ left the st johns alive like seriously.....Arvo, Mike and Bonnie run away and get all this crap about torturing them. I just...

  • I would too, I think everyone is getting blinded by anger as I didn't think any of the seemed like bad people.

    In any case I don't want Clementine to become a murderer either and I think what Kenny did to Carver was horribly wrong so whatever.

    Twistee posted: »

    I would forgive them. Even Arvo. Everyone deserves second chances IMO.

  • maybe if kenny wasn't such a massive prick, trying to torture Arvo at every chance he gets then Arvo wouldn't be so hostile. bonnie and mike did the right thing by protecting him.

    also if you didnt notice, mike and bonnie ran off with him because kenny is crazy and was going to kill them

    No, they do. Bonnie and Mike constantly protected that russkie prick, despite the fact that they nearly got killed because of him. And then

  • Yeah, I don't get it either.

    Guess people don't take kindly to betrayal, even if Bonnie, Mike, and Arvo had reasons to not want to follow Kenny anymore.

    How the heck do they even compare? The termites tried to kill the group and EAT THEM. I mean shit 70%+ left the st johns alive like seriously.....Arvo, Mike and Bonnie run away and get all this crap about torturing them. I just...

  • You're really going to blame this on Kenny, Kenny was the only one who saw Arvo for what he was. I wanted him to kill him from the start, he almost got us killed, and when I saw Mike and Bonnie protecting him, I couldn't believe it. I let Kenny keep beating the shit out of Arvo, that prick deserved everything that Kenny threw at him. And even if he didn't, Arvo would have still shot Clem, he thought Clem shot his sister when she was still alive, not because of Kenny beating him. Kenny wasn't crazy, he was the only one that was rational, like I said, he knew Arvo was a threat, but Mike and Bonnie were so gullible and naive that they thought he was some innocent kid. And Arvo is a manipulator, he convinced his group to attack us and convinced Mike and Bonnie to betray us. FUCK ARVO. FUCK BONNIE. FUCK MIKE. HAIL KENNY.

    maybe if kenny wasn't such a massive prick, trying to torture Arvo at every chance he gets then Arvo wouldn't be so hostile. bonnie and mike

  • Nice.

    Tinni posted: »

    If I get the chance, I'll take Arvo's leg brace, shoot him in the other leg, shoot Bonnie and Mike in the kneecaps making them unable to wal

  • edited October 2014

    Yeah, beating him every few minutes, handcuffing him away from the fire and blaming everything on him. I'm sure he was thrilled to be with the group

    But we did give Arvo a second chance, and then he shot us. We gave Bonnie a second chance, and she betrayed us again. Mike was the only one who didn't do anything wrong before, so maybe I could live with him. MAYBE.

  • Considering the fact that we didn't let Kenny kill him, that's considered giving him a second chance. And it is all Arvo's fault. He said the ice was thick enough to go across, but it wasn't since Luke died trying to cross it, so it's Arvo's fault for Luke's death. And as a result of his death, tensions between Mike, Bonnie, and Kenny begin to rise, and the group begins to fall apart. Mike and Bonnie, being the gullible pieces of shits that they are, then try to leave with Arvo, and when Clem tries to stop them, Arvo shoots her. So let's recap, because of Arvo:

    1. Mike got shot.
    2. Luke got shot.
    3. His entire group is dead.
    4. Luke is dead (and Bonnie could be dead).
    5. Tensions rise, causing the group to fall apart.
    6. Mike and (determinant) Bonnie betray the group.
    7. Clem gets shot and left to die.
    Kryik posted: »

    Yeah, beating him every few minutes, handcuffing him away from the fire and blaming everything on him. I'm sure he was thrilled to be with the group

  • I love the irony in all of this 'vengeance' mind-set some people have with Bonnie, Mike, and especially Arvo has. All of this happened because of Kenny's lust for violence, and all violence does is spreads anger, misery, and more violence. And yet Telltale tries to justify this mind-set that by making Bonnie, Mike, and Arvo the bad guys for daring to go against Kenny's words.

    If they just sat down and talked to each other calmly like proper grown-ups, then Bonnie and Mike wouldn't have needed to feel desperate enough to get away from Kenny's constant hysteria.

    Had Kenny learned from his experience from the past two years with Lee and their old group, Kenny should have learned to control his emotions and stop being so hard-headed whenever someone opposes his opinions. I get it that tragedy struck Kenny again with Sarita after what's happened with Katjaa and Duck, but once again he does nothing but point fingers and blame others, browbeat others, and use violence above common sense. He's losing his grasp on mental stability, giving Bonnie and Mike no reason to follow him anymore in case Kenny actively tries to get everyone killed if that what he believed it took to keep Clementine and AJ safe. He's learned nothing, and he's becoming damaged because he just don't want to learn to get better.

    Had Kenny had his way, Bonnie and Mike would have been dragged down towards Wellington (which at the time, they had no reason to believe existed) and probably died along the way due to the cold and Kenny's stubbornness.

    Had Kenny not dragged around, threatened, and beated his prisoner around, there's a chance that Arvo would have not used Kenny's example of bloodthirst to shoot Clementine down if that what it took to get away from the group that held him captive in the first place (as well as exact vengeance on Clementine for his sister's death...sounds familiar?). It's easy to blame Arvo for everything, but we never get to hear his side of the story of why his group apprehended Clementine's group and what Arvo's role was, because Telltale decided to make him the villain just to further justify Kenny's actions.

    All of this happened because of Kenny's actions, and yet he's made to be the sympathetic one in spite of being the one responsible for breaking up the group and indirectly causing Bonnie and Mike's betrayal out of fear of him being the next 'Carver'.

  • edited October 2014

    I left Danny Alive because he is traped in the dumb thing with no release latch, so he will die no mather what, devoured by walkers, or have his leg choped by his own brother, and they will invite walkers for dinner it . HAHAHAHAHA . and i left Andy alive because everyone was watching and i want he alive to see his brother and mother fate, and maybe have to amputate his brother leg, like he did to Mark. Its perfect logical let them live for suffer. And i dont hate Mike and Bonniem Just Arvo because he shoot clem

    How the heck do they even compare? The termites tried to kill the group and EAT THEM. I mean shit 70%+ left the st johns alive like seriously.....Arvo, Mike and Bonnie run away and get all this crap about torturing them. I just...

  • edited October 2014

    He atacked a group just because ( determinant) Clem and Jane/ just Jane. and she wasnt even there anymore. I didint stole his medication, so he had no reason to f*** with my group in the first place, he could just go and look for Jane. Clem didnt Shoot his sister, she was already dead. clementine shot a walker. two years in the apocalipse and arvo didnt know that dead people turn if you dont destroy the brain? so stupid. I dont always agree with Kenny and condemn some of your actions and forgive mike and bonnie, but arvo is a piece of shit. he surrounded us even before kenny hit him. PROBABLY WAS BONNIE WHO KILLED HIS SISTER, BONNIE , she was pointing the gun at Natasha during the shooting, But if you leave bonnie alive, she flees WITH arvo

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    I love the irony in all of this 'vengeance' mind-set some people have with Bonnie, Mike, and especially Arvo has. All of this happened becau

  • I actually find this one of those rare occasions where I tried defending Kenny (along with AJ and Jane). Kenny is definitely a piece of shit human garbage, but low-life treacherous snakes that actively put a shit-eating grin on their face while they plot to rob and leave a young girl and newborn alone with said piece of shit human garbage to slowly freeze to death is inexcusable.

    It was all about principle. I didn't need any further proof to pull out my weapon after I saw dick-head Mike and scum-face Arvo trying to start the car along with every bit of supplies we had with them.

    If only the game allowed me the opportunity to pluck Arvo in between the eye's, turn to Mike shoot him in his throat, then turn to Bonnie and empty the rest of my clip right up her deceitful lying ass.

    maybe if kenny wasn't such a massive prick, trying to torture Arvo at every chance he gets then Arvo wouldn't be so hostile. bonnie and mike

  • Arvo, Mike and Bonnie run away and get all this crap about torturing them. I just...

    Well, that and they tried their best to completely screw everyone else over. One of them also shot an 11 year old girl with a rifle. Depending on your actions earlier on in E5, either Mike or Bonnie is completely indifferent towards helping Clem after she is shot. She's probably dead for all they know.

    How the heck do they even compare? The termites tried to kill the group and EAT THEM. I mean shit 70%+ left the st johns alive like seriously.....Arvo, Mike and Bonnie run away and get all this crap about torturing them. I just...

  • Still i'm missing the point where they try to cut clem and co up and eat them.

    Did you kill the st johns?

    Belan posted: »

    Arvo, Mike and Bonnie run away and get all this crap about torturing them. I just... Well, that and they tried their best to complet

  • edited November 2014

    Arvo assumed that Jane was still with Clementine's group, because he believed she was hiding somewhere waiting to trap his group. And considering that Jane hiding and jumping him was what started the whole mess, he has no reason to believe she wouldn't try and pull something similar again. On the deck, when Clementine talks to him before Jane sneaks up on him, from his POV that probably looked like a coordinated ambush regardless of Clementine's true intent. (It would mirror what he ended up doing with his own group, with him being the distraction or the 'Clementine' and his group being the ones to sneak up on him, so they would be the Jane.)

    As for his sister turning, before Kenny interrupted him, Arvo was trying to revive her, so considering how emotionally fucked up he was at that point, if he saw her getting up then he'd most likely thought that his attempts to bring her to life worked. It was still stupid that we never got to explain she was a walker to him, but that was likely something the writers did on purpose so he'd have a reason to want to shoot Clem in the first place.

    And in one of the translations I saw, Vitali claims that it was Kenny who shot Natasha, but all we have to go off of is his word so yeah, it could have been Bonnie who did it...but if Arvo was willing to shoot Clementine over supposedly killing his sister than there is no way in hell that he'd go with Bonnie if she had shot her while still alive.

    igormp posted: »

    He atacked a group just because ( determinant) Clem and Jane/ just Jane. and she wasnt even there anymore. I didint stole his medication,

  • Still i'm missing the point where they try to cut clem and co up and eat them.

    Why would you literally try and draw direct parallels to that anyway? I really don't think that's the point.

    Did you kill the st johns?

    No. Though in hindsight, maybe I should have.

    Still i'm missing the point where they try to cut clem and co up and eat them. Did you kill the st johns?

  • Why would you literally try and draw direct parallels to that anyway? I really don't think that's the point.

    Because thats what the OP is saying...... their referencing a quote about killing cannibals to killing Arvo,Mike and Bonnie

    Belan posted: »

    Still i'm missing the point where they try to cut clem and co up and eat them. Why would you literally try and draw direct parallels

  • I don't care, they don't get to live.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    I love the irony in all of this 'vengeance' mind-set some people have with Bonnie, Mike, and especially Arvo has. All of this happened becau

  • edited November 2014

    You have some good points, Still, he could have waited Jane or Kenny appears, so he could shoot at least one of them, especially if clem give your weapon to Mike and try to protect Arvo everytime. Im just saying that arvo had more motives to shoot Kenny or Jane before try to kill clem. I think most players were friendly with him . Clem is just a little girl. how far people can go in a lawless land (ZA). Imagine if clem come out with AJ, poor children .

    Arvo assumed that Jane was still with Clementine's group, because he believed she was hiding somewhere waiting to trap his group. And consid

Sign in to comment in this discussion.