Nope. I'd tell my group what he did and give him a hearty "Fuck you," then I'd just leave him. Though if it looks like he'll try that shit again, I won't hesitate to put a bullet in his head.
In front of a new group while he's unarmed? Hell no. That would make me look like a damn psycho. They wouldn't know what he did to me, and even if they did, he's crippled and not an immediate threat. If I saw someone in my group (especially someone new) just walk up to a random guy and cap him over something that happened in the past (and its not like it killed you), I'm gonna tell them to turn around and look at the flowers.
What I would do is take him prisoner again, give the new guys a history lesson, and we'd make that decision together.
..were you, like, asleep during the RV convo in episode 5?
The game basically rams down your throat the fact that he did something really… more bad because he lost someone and because of the way he was treated.
Normally I accept it when people have trouble empathising but the game actually hand holds you down the path and you still don't get the point.
Yeah, it bugged me when it is obviously about Arvo.
There are many clues...One of which is that it is after Arvo's little...Incident. That AV scene is what made me rethink what Arvo did. I defend him now and would forgive him if he ever came back...If look on any other thread where I say this people call be crazy, stupid, or "I have to be joking, you can't believe this bullshit you're saying".
There were people thinking that was about Kenny?!
Jeez louise, these people try to bend anything to their character views....
Clem's subconscious isn't psychic, she doesn't know what Kenny is about to do.
Killing him just sounds... dark, but I really don't know what alternative forms of justice there are in the apocalypse. He tried to murder an 11 year old girl (I don't care what idiotic reasoning he had), and he was a scumbag even before all of that. Its not even really about revenge for me, I just know that I wouldn't let someone like him just walk away like nothing happened.
Arvo leads an armed group to rob Clem's group of all their supplies. This is a big deal in the normal world, let alone in the apocolpyse where people are actually reliant upon their belongings to survive.
Arvo's group opens fire upon Clem's group, injuring two of them. It's somewhat of a miracle that no one from Clem's group died during the fire fight, though one particular sustained injury plays a part later on in a certain group member's death.
Arvo insists that going across the frozen lake is safe, even though it clearly was not.
Arvo selfishly sprints across the lake when walkers start following from behind, playing a huge role in the ice collapse, causing Luke's death.
Arvo finds himself included in a plan to split the group in half, stealing essentially all of the other half's supplies.
Arvo shoots an 11 year old girl with a rifle, even in the case of her not being a threat at all.
I think the RV scene was about, well, everyone. The whole "Sad people can get angry" thing can easily apply to Kenny, Jane, or even Bonnie and Mike as much as it can to Arvo. Obviously Clem had no idea that Kenny and Jane were about to kill each other, but Kenny did a fair number of things in Season 2 before hand, such as his killing of Carver or the way he lost it when Sarita died, that fit what Lee was talking about. Kenny's got a lot of pain inside him, and it's made him angrier and more brutal than he was in Season 1. Obviously Arvo was sad because he lost his sister, and that fits Lee's words quite easily as well. He blamed Clem for Natasha's death and shot her out of a need for revenge. Bonnie was upset about Luke's death and if she's still alive by that point she's helped Mike and Arvo rob the group, and determinantly blamed Clem for Luke's death because she can't deal with him being gone. Just because the dream happened right after Arvo shot Clem doesn't mean what Lee was saying can't apply to everyone, because it really does.
There were people thinking that was about Kenny?!
Jeez louise, these people try to bend anything to their character views....
Clem's subconscious isn't psychic, she doesn't know what Kenny is about to do.
Killing him just sounds... dark, but I really don't know what alternative forms of justice there are in the apocalypse. He tried to murder a… moren 11 year old girl (I don't care what idiotic reasoning he had), and he was a scumbag even before all of that. Its not even really about revenge for me, I just know that I wouldn't let someone like him just walk away like nothing happened.
* Arvo leads an armed group to rob Clem's group of all their supplies. This is a big deal in the normal world, let alone in the apocolpyse where people are actually reliant upon their belongings to survive.
* Arvo's group opens fire upon Clem's group, injuring two of them. It's somewhat of a miracle that no one from Clem's group died during the fire fight, though one particular sustained injury plays a part later on in a certain group member's death.
* Arvo insists that going across the frozen lake is safe, even though it clearly was not.
* Arvo selfishly sprint… [view original content]
Well I dunno.
If he'll be friendly, no... I wanna be friends with him actually.
If he'll not be that friendly. It's either I'll talk him out of his senses or shoot his other leg and tie him up... THEN I'll talk some sense out of him. haha.
Clem and Jane are the first ones to bother Arvo doing his "business".
Arvo tried to calm both of the groups down by trying to talk everything over. It's just that other guys from both groups heated up that caused the shoot out.
Well, they all said and agreed that there's no other way around.
Arvo and kenny arrived safely on the land part. It was just carlos who made a crack on his area that caused clem and him to fall.. *If you helped carlos
That... is really natural specially when you're captured and beaten by some stranger...
Yup. He despised clem shooting his sister and all. Seems like his sister is the only family left for him.
In short, Arvo was merely doing what a normal human would do in those kind of situations. Shooting him would make you no different from him.
Killing him just sounds... dark, but I really don't know what alternative forms of justice there are in the apocalypse. He tried to murder a… moren 11 year old girl (I don't care what idiotic reasoning he had), and he was a scumbag even before all of that. Its not even really about revenge for me, I just know that I wouldn't let someone like him just walk away like nothing happened.
* Arvo leads an armed group to rob Clem's group of all their supplies. This is a big deal in the normal world, let alone in the apocolpyse where people are actually reliant upon their belongings to survive.
* Arvo's group opens fire upon Clem's group, injuring two of them. It's somewhat of a miracle that no one from Clem's group died during the fire fight, though one particular sustained injury plays a part later on in a certain group member's death.
* Arvo insists that going across the frozen lake is safe, even though it clearly was not.
* Arvo selfishly sprint… [view original content]
Nope. Clementine trusting/forgiving him is completely out of the question and always will be, but I'm not going to shoot him back out of revenge. If he's acting very aggressive when she next sees him, then probably but that would be the only exception.
I'd slap him once like Carlos did to Sarah. In my playthrough I DID DEFEND THAT SHITBIRD and what does he do?? Shoots me. Gosh, I wouldn't kill Bonnie either, I'd rather see her suffer even more than Arvo. All she said was "Just leave her!" She's gonna pay for everything so bad. She betrayed me after I really really trusted her. (In my both playthroughs when I tried to save Luke and covered him she said "Leave her".) But the point is I wouldn't kill him, doesn't really satisfy me.
Killing him just sounds... dark, but I really don't know what alternative forms of justice there are in the apocalypse. He tried to murder a… moren 11 year old girl (I don't care what idiotic reasoning he had), and he was a scumbag even before all of that. Its not even really about revenge for me, I just know that I wouldn't let someone like him just walk away like nothing happened.
* Arvo leads an armed group to rob Clem's group of all their supplies. This is a big deal in the normal world, let alone in the apocolpyse where people are actually reliant upon their belongings to survive.
* Arvo's group opens fire upon Clem's group, injuring two of them. It's somewhat of a miracle that no one from Clem's group died during the fire fight, though one particular sustained injury plays a part later on in a certain group member's death.
* Arvo insists that going across the frozen lake is safe, even though it clearly was not.
* Arvo selfishly sprint… [view original content]
In my both playthroughs when I tried to save Luke and covered him she said "Leave her"
I don´t understand , In both you cover him or in one you cover him and in the other you tried to help him? because i tried to help and Mike (fuck him) was the one who said that they should leave Clem
I'd slap him once like Carlos did to Sarah. In my playthrough I DID DEFEND THAT SHITBIRD and what does he do?? Shoots me. Gosh, I wouldn't k… moreill Bonnie either, I'd rather see her suffer even more than Arvo. All she said was "Just leave her!" She's gonna pay for everything so bad. She betrayed me after I really really trusted her. (In my both playthroughs when I tried to save Luke and covered him she said "Leave her".) But the point is I wouldn't kill him, doesn't really satisfy me.
I'd slap him once like Carlos did to Sarah. In my playthrough I DID DEFEND THAT SHITBIRD and what does he do?? Shoots me. Gosh, I wouldn't k… moreill Bonnie either, I'd rather see her suffer even more than Arvo. All she said was "Just leave her!" She's gonna pay for everything so bad. She betrayed me after I really really trusted her. (In my both playthroughs when I tried to save Luke and covered him she said "Leave her".) But the point is I wouldn't kill him, doesn't really satisfy me.
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Yeah, now THIS is a fair attitude.
If he keeps talking with that accent, which seems to worsen each time we see him, then yeah, in a heartbeat.
I wouldn't kill him, because that's just not what Clem would do. But there's definitely no forgiving in his future.
I would shot him in the legs and give him Carver's death.
In front of a new group while he's unarmed? Hell no. That would make me look like a damn psycho. They wouldn't know what he did to me, and even if they did, he's crippled and not an immediate threat. If I saw someone in my group (especially someone new) just walk up to a random guy and cap him over something that happened in the past (and its not like it killed you), I'm gonna tell them to turn around and look at the flowers.
What I would do is take him prisoner again, give the new guys a history lesson, and we'd make that decision together.
That's awesome!
I finally found another person who thinks the RV Dream was about Arvo not Kenny.
No, my Clementine is not a murderer.
[KILL]
Why would I do that? I would look like a maniac.
There were people thinking that was about Kenny?!
Jeez louise, these people try to bend anything to their character views....
Clem's subconscious isn't psychic, she doesn't know what Kenny is about to do.
Yeah, it bugged me when it is obviously about Arvo.
There are many clues...One of which is that it is after Arvo's little...Incident. That AV scene is what made me rethink what Arvo did. I defend him now and would forgive him if he ever came back...If look on any other thread where I say this people call be crazy, stupid, or "I have to be joking, you can't believe this bullshit you're saying".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyMN7dJqQtc&feature=player_embedded
I think I get the reference...
well normally i wouldn't just murder people but arvo will be a special exception
Killing him just sounds... dark, but I really don't know what alternative forms of justice there are in the apocalypse. He tried to murder an 11 year old girl (I don't care what idiotic reasoning he had), and he was a scumbag even before all of that. Its not even really about revenge for me, I just know that I wouldn't let someone like him just walk away like nothing happened.
Hell yeah.
No, unless he intends to shoot Clem again, i'll give him a second chance.
No. I view his situation the same as Lilly or Kenny. He has lost everything and is pushed until he snaps.
Shoot him in both legs tell the group you need to "question" him then tourture him and leave him to walkers.
No. I would say, Oh my god arvo! Run up and hug him, and say, I know we didn't have time to say it. But im sorry about your sister...
I think the RV scene was about, well, everyone. The whole "Sad people can get angry" thing can easily apply to Kenny, Jane, or even Bonnie and Mike as much as it can to Arvo. Obviously Clem had no idea that Kenny and Jane were about to kill each other, but Kenny did a fair number of things in Season 2 before hand, such as his killing of Carver or the way he lost it when Sarita died, that fit what Lee was talking about. Kenny's got a lot of pain inside him, and it's made him angrier and more brutal than he was in Season 1. Obviously Arvo was sad because he lost his sister, and that fits Lee's words quite easily as well. He blamed Clem for Natasha's death and shot her out of a need for revenge. Bonnie was upset about Luke's death and if she's still alive by that point she's helped Mike and Arvo rob the group, and determinantly blamed Clem for Luke's death because she can't deal with him being gone. Just because the dream happened right after Arvo shot Clem doesn't mean what Lee was saying can't apply to everyone, because it really does.
It may sound dark, but you're right, we can't let him get away with something like this.
Ugh
Well I dunno.
If he'll be friendly, no... I wanna be friends with him actually.
If he'll not be that friendly. It's either I'll talk him out of his senses or shoot his other leg and tie him up... THEN I'll talk some sense out of him. haha.
Really liked that guy... Poor arvo
Really want to hug arvo during the time he's beaten up by kenny. Poor guy. </3
He need to die. If Clem cant do it, well Kenny will be there to save the day.
I'm not sure about that....
Clem and Jane are the first ones to bother Arvo doing his "business".
Arvo tried to calm both of the groups down by trying to talk everything over. It's just that other guys from both groups heated up that caused the shoot out.
Well, they all said and agreed that there's no other way around.
Arvo and kenny arrived safely on the land part. It was just carlos who made a crack on his area that caused clem and him to fall.. *If you helped carlos
That... is really natural specially when you're captured and beaten by some stranger...
Yup. He despised clem shooting his sister and all. Seems like his sister is the only family left for him.
In short, Arvo was merely doing what a normal human would do in those kind of situations. Shooting him would make you no different from him.
Nope. Clementine trusting/forgiving him is completely out of the question and always will be, but I'm not going to shoot him back out of revenge. If he's acting very aggressive when she next sees him, then probably but that would be the only exception.
No. My Clementine is not a killer.
One word, one syllable. YES!!!!
Oh, I'm sure kenny is gonna get the omid. and with kenny out of the way. Clem and Arvo could be happy as Friends. (or more)
whats the difference between me and him if i shoot him? Nothing
I'd slap him once like Carlos did to Sarah. In my playthrough I DID DEFEND THAT SHITBIRD and what does he do?? Shoots me. Gosh, I wouldn't kill Bonnie either, I'd rather see her suffer even more than Arvo. All she said was "Just leave her!" She's gonna pay for everything so bad. She betrayed me after I really really trusted her. (In my both playthroughs when I tried to save Luke and covered him she said "Leave her".) But the point is I wouldn't kill him, doesn't really satisfy me.
He also said he had a big group, the one he was during 'fight' wasn't exactly 'big'. I wouldn't ever ever trust him. He's stil a piece of shit.
I don´t understand , In both you cover him or in one you cover him and in the other you tried to help him? because i tried to help and Mike (fuck him) was the one who said that they should leave Clem
No.
Bonnie blaming Clem for what happened to Luke was the worst. She is dead to me now.
Whoa there Ramsay Bolton
Yep.