^I could have written a better story than this. Honestly [no period as "Honestly" is not a sentence] it was average at best.
I'm only nitpicking your grammar because of the alleged claim that you have superior writing skills to the professionals that work for Telltale. This display of grammatical mastery implies to me that you could not.
Lazy in some areas, yes. But not as a whole. Its like some the writers didn't know how to handle some of the characters development. Nick for an example was building up to hell in ep2, but only had like three lines the very next episode. Its sad really how is zombie model had more detailed than his involvement in ep3. : /
This display of grammatical mastery implies to me that you could not.
Yeah, because i would obviously put the same amount of effort, love, energy in a forum post than writing a story that millions of fans would enjoy. I would have editors, other writers i collaborate with right, I guess i don't really check my grammar when i make a forum post because I'm not in school anymore or have time to go back, time and time again checking to make sure i spelled every word correctly or I'm going to be assaulted by Becca.
That is fine Becca, have at it.
I'm human. I made a mistake, because i didn't proof-read that post. You know what your argument is so weak, its funny to me. This is what your going to say? It sounds really Strawmanish.
I could of wrote a better story than this.
Honestly. It was average at best.
^I could have written a better story than this. … more Honestly [no period as "Honestly" is not a sentence] it was average at best.
I'm only nitpicking your grammar because of the alleged claim that you have superior writing skills to the professionals that work for Telltale. This display of grammatical mastery implies to me that you could not.
Well, it's your opinion. But you have to admit - there is a BIG difference between a game such as DayZ and The Walking Dead. One is survival game and second adventure point&click.
Not sure if.... you're drunk... or if you're just rambling. Either way, it's poor writing :P
The Becca analogy feels forced. I totally don't buy it.. The "I'm human. I made a mistake" line is too cliche.
It's also just kind of hard to follow.
And the "Strawman" line, make sure you know your terms. A strawman is when somebody takes pieces from your argument and changes them to mean something different in an attempt to make it seem like you've said something that you haven't. My grammar mocking is a simple assertion with no misrepresentation.
Basically, you made a claim, that you could write a better story than the folks at Telltale that worked on S2. Thus far the "only" evidence that we have in regards to your ability to write is contrary to this claim.
I mean... you could still blow us out of the water with your expertly written completely error free no plot hole having fanfic, or by getting a job for a gaming company to write plots and scripts, but until then all we have to assess your claim is what you have already written.
Because Grammar = Writer .
That is what editors do.
This display of grammatical mastery implies to me that you could not.
Y… moreeah, because i would obviously put the same amount of effort, love, energy in a forum post than writing a story that millions of fans would enjoy. I would have editors, other writers i collaborate with right, I guess i don't really check my grammar when i make a forum post because I'm not in school anymore or have time to go back, time and time again checking to make sure i spelled every word correctly or I'm going to be assaulted by Becca.
That is fine Becca, have at it.
I'm human. I made a mistake, because i didn't proof-read that post. You know what your argument is so weak, its funny to me. This is what your going to say? It sounds really Strawmanish.
It might be - yes. But not neccessarly. Of course you know that even if it worked for DayZ it doesn't mean that it'd work for The Walking Dead. I mean it's interesting idea but... I don't know.
I hated S2 because of how many wasted characters there were. There were so many. A lot I thought I'd end up liking turned out to be bland plot devices barren of any real personality. (Mike, Sarita, Arvo. I still like the three of them, but not in a genuine way. More like a 'they weren't developed at all but I thought that they would be, and I'm stubborn and bitter about it so I'll still like them anyway even though they were shit in canon fuck you telltale' I'll be the first person to admit this is a really strange way of looking at it, but my fondness for them remains and I don't know how to get rid of it.) Then the characters that I did really like and believed would play a bigger role in the season ended up having shitty deaths before they could reach their full potential. (Sarah, Nick.) And Carver was a promising villain whom they could have done plenty more with but they just decided to get rid of him midseason.
Clementine ended up being only character worth following in the season. She's the protagonist so it is good that she wasn't a waste of space, but in S1 pretty much all of the characters were well written. It is really hard to say that about S2. Which is probably another reason I'm so disappointed in the S2, I feel as if I compare it to S1 too much. If the game series started just with Clementine as a kid survivor with Christa and so forth, I'd probably still be annoyed by the writing, but not as much because I wouldn't know what the game was like when it was really damn good and engaging. I wouldn't feel as big of a loss.
Not sure if.... you're drunk... or if you're just rambling. Either way, it's poor writing :P
The Becca analogy feels forced. I totally … moredon't buy it.. The "I'm human. I made a mistake" line is too cliche.
It's also just kind of hard to follow.
And the "Strawman" line, make sure you know your terms. A strawman is when somebody takes pieces from your argument and changes them to mean something different in an attempt to make it seem like you've said something that you haven't. My grammar mocking is a simple assertion with no misrepresentation.
Basically, you made a claim, that you could write a better story than the folks at Telltale that worked on S2. Thus far the "only" evidence that we have in regards to your ability to write is contrary to this claim.
I mean... you could still blow us out of the water with your expertly written completely error free no plot hole having fanfic, or by getting a job for a gaming company to… [view original content]
It might be - yes. But not neccessarly. Of course you know that even if it worked for DayZ it doesn't mean that it'd work for The Walking Dead. I mean it's interesting idea but... I don't know.
This doesn't mean they're better for sure. I mean not all of them. This options might be stupid or useless or something. Anything can go wrong just like with games that aren't modded.
So I'll still say - it might work or might not work. But it's only my opinion. You've yours.
I am completely lost on the "Becca" analogy. I know it's supposed to be an insult, but I don't understand how the connection is being made in your mind.
You don't "have" to explain it to me, but I... kind of like to understand everything...
And... re-reading this convo, sorry bro! I'm trying to come off as light-hearted. I'm only teasing you. I'm not "actually" trying to insult you, so my apologies if you felt insulted at all.
Feel free to insult me Becca, I'm I can take it.
I don't need to identify myself with product.
Have fun with your fanboy/girl year(s)
Talking to fanboys is pointless.
Thanks
Season 2 wasn't bad. There are a good and shocking moments. But I do feel it could have been better if we were allowed to interact with the characters more.
Season 2 was good, but the horrible writing left a bad taste in my mouth. Especially after the way they killed off the best character of all time from anything ever (Nick). I won't be buying season 3, I'm a little skeptical about the writing.
I am completely lost on the "Becca" analogy. I know it's supposed to be an insult, but I don't understand how the connection is being made … morein your mind.
You don't "have" to explain it to me, but I... kind of like to understand everything...
And... re-reading this convo, sorry bro! I'm trying to come off as light-hearted. I'm only teasing you. I'm not "actually" trying to insult you, so my apologies if you felt insulted at all.
This doesn't mean they're better for sure. I mean not all of them. This options might be stupid or useless or something. Anything can go wro… moreng just like with games that aren't modded.
So I'll still say - it might work or might not work. But it's only my opinion. You've yours.
Have you ever consider that other people have different opinions and not always the same as yours? Seriously, I said what I think about it and that's it, it's over. I'm not even trying to change your mind. Instead, you're trying to change my opinion.
The getting rid of Carver plot, lack of character development, and making Wellington such a major part of the season ruined it. It started off awesome but went downhill after ep.2. Not lazy writing as much as poor choice of writing.
If anything, getting to Wellington should have been a much more prominent goal in this Season - just as finding Clementine's parents in Savannah was for S1.
Carver was a great, if unoriginal, antagonist. I understand the excuse of having to limit his screen-time because of his celebrity voice acting, but without his presence the season floundered. I really wish he lasted until the last episode, and that the final confrontation would have been between him and Clem.
The getting rid of Carver plot, lack of character development, and making Wellington such a major part of the season ruined it. It started off awesome but went downhill after ep.2. Not lazy writing as much as poor choice of writing.
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^I could have written a better story than this. Honestly [no period as "Honestly" is not a sentence] it was average at best.
I'm only nitpicking your grammar because of the alleged claim that you have superior writing skills to the professionals that work for Telltale. This display of grammatical mastery implies to me that you could not.
making the other characters unlikeable so fast, just like they did to bonnie and mike...
Lazy in some areas, yes. But not as a whole. Its like some the writers didn't know how to handle some of the characters development. Nick for an example was building up to hell in ep2, but only had like three lines the very next episode. Its sad really how is zombie model had more detailed than his involvement in ep3. : /
Season 2 **could ** have been better. That's all I am saying.
Is it me or there was a lot of slapping in Season 2?
Because Grammar = Writer .
That is what editors do.
Yeah, because i would obviously put the same amount of effort, love, energy in a forum post than writing a story that millions of fans would enjoy. I would have editors, other writers i collaborate with right, I guess i don't really check my grammar when i make a forum post because I'm not in school anymore or have time to go back, time and time again checking to make sure i spelled every word correctly or I'm going to be assaulted by Becca.
That is fine Becca, have at it.
I'm human. I made a mistake, because i didn't proof-read that post. You know what your argument is so weak, its funny to me. This is what your going to say? It sounds really Strawmanish.
I said that opening up the TWDG to modders would be a good thing, so people can write their own stories. I used DayZ as a example to modding success.
You are not the only human in the Earth.
Not sure if.... you're drunk... or if you're just rambling. Either way, it's poor writing :P
The Becca analogy feels forced. I totally don't buy it.. The "I'm human. I made a mistake" line is too cliche.
It's also just kind of hard to follow.
And the "Strawman" line, make sure you know your terms. A strawman is when somebody takes pieces from your argument and changes them to mean something different in an attempt to make it seem like you've said something that you haven't. My grammar mocking is a simple assertion with no misrepresentation.
Basically, you made a claim, that you could write a better story than the folks at Telltale that worked on S2. Thus far the "only" evidence that we have in regards to your ability to write is contrary to this claim.
I mean... you could still blow us out of the water with your expertly written completely error free no plot hole having fanfic, or by getting a job for a gaming company to write plots and scripts, but until then all we have to assess your claim is what you have already written.
It might be - yes. But not neccessarly. Of course you know that even if it worked for DayZ it doesn't mean that it'd work for The Walking Dead. I mean it's interesting idea but... I don't know.
Season 2 was worst then Season 1 because they've change concept. With bad concept writing can be average at the best.
Season 1 - adult leading protagonist + kid sidekick
Season 2 - kid leading protagonist + 0 sidekick + 0 leading adult
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Agree with 90% of the points made in the this video.
I hated S2 because of how many wasted characters there were. There were so many. A lot I thought I'd end up liking turned out to be bland plot devices barren of any real personality. (Mike, Sarita, Arvo. I still like the three of them, but not in a genuine way. More like a 'they weren't developed at all but I thought that they would be, and I'm stubborn and bitter about it so I'll still like them anyway even though they were shit in canon fuck you telltale' I'll be the first person to admit this is a really strange way of looking at it, but my fondness for them remains and I don't know how to get rid of it.) Then the characters that I did really like and believed would play a bigger role in the season ended up having shitty deaths before they could reach their full potential. (Sarah, Nick.) And Carver was a promising villain whom they could have done plenty more with but they just decided to get rid of him midseason.
Clementine ended up being only character worth following in the season. She's the protagonist so it is good that she wasn't a waste of space, but in S1 pretty much all of the characters were well written. It is really hard to say that about S2. Which is probably another reason I'm so disappointed in the S2, I feel as if I compare it to S1 too much. If the game series started just with Clementine as a kid survivor with Christa and so forth, I'd probably still be annoyed by the writing, but not as much because I wouldn't know what the game was like when it was really damn good and engaging. I wouldn't feel as big of a loss.
Feel free to insult me Becca, I'm I can take it.
I don't need to identify myself with product.
Have fun with your fanboy/girl year(s)
Talking to fanboys is pointless.
Thanks
Games area better when they're modded. They have more options available.
Yes. I agree with this. If it can't be considered lazy writing then it is most definitely not good writing.
This doesn't mean they're better for sure. I mean not all of them. This options might be stupid or useless or something. Anything can go wrong just like with games that aren't modded.
So I'll still say - it might work or might not work. But it's only my opinion. You've yours.
I am completely lost on the "Becca" analogy. I know it's supposed to be an insult, but I don't understand how the connection is being made in your mind.
You don't "have" to explain it to me, but I... kind of like to understand everything...
And... re-reading this convo, sorry bro! I'm trying to come off as light-hearted. I'm only teasing you. I'm not "actually" trying to insult you, so my apologies if you felt insulted at all.
Season 2 wasn't bad. There are a good and shocking moments. But I do feel it could have been better if we were allowed to interact with the characters more.
Season 2 was good, but the horrible writing left a bad taste in my mouth. Especially after the way they killed off the best character of all time from anything ever (Nick). I won't be buying season 3, I'm a little skeptical about the writing.
Have you ever played games ie Fallout 3 pc, a game with mods. Vs a game without mods.
They made a few mistakes in season 2 that makes me thing that they rushed it.
Have you ever consider that other people have different opinions and not always the same as yours? Seriously, I said what I think about it and that's it, it's over. I'm not even trying to change your mind. Instead, you're trying to change my opinion.
The getting rid of Carver plot, lack of character development, and making Wellington such a major part of the season ruined it. It started off awesome but went downhill after ep.2. Not lazy writing as much as poor choice of writing.
If anything, getting to Wellington should have been a much more prominent goal in this Season - just as finding Clementine's parents in Savannah was for S1.
Carver was a great, if unoriginal, antagonist. I understand the excuse of having to limit his screen-time because of his celebrity voice acting, but without his presence the season floundered. I really wish he lasted until the last episode, and that the final confrontation would have been between him and Clem.
I'm sorry that hurt your feels bro, sincerely.
Me <- Jerk