And I would say that...judging her based on how she can be of use to you rather than as a human being, is a mighty big controversial stateme… morent that won't gain you any sympathy points here.
DUDE. It's the zombie apocalypse. Of course I'm looking out for how people can be of use to me. Seriously. Why would I just go around letting uncapable people drag me down?
You know, for all the sympathy you're oh-so happily dispensing onto others you are forgetting to give some to Clem, because to make her stay with people like Ben & Sarah is like putting a 50kg weight around her ankle.
So, what does my obsession with a video character have to do with this at all? I didn't even say or imply that it was a DLC ABOUT HIM ONLY. Go back and read the thread, obviously you'd be hyped up if you favourite character's VA tweeted something like that. Hell, you'd shit your pants.
I wouldn't say that Ben, Sarah or Duck are bad characters, Ben's actually my favorite, what you can say is that they won't directly help you, although they certainly try their hardest. Ben starts a deal with bandits to save his friend and keep the bandits off our backs at the same time, it just so happens that things backfire against him.
Sarah also tries by persuading you to teach her how to use a gun (determinant) she even knows that she needs to learn, but the death of Carlos triggers her PTSD, and she panics.
Are they the best survivors? No. Do they try? Yes. Does being bad at survival make them bad characters? No, but it's all up to opinion in the end.
How is that creepy? It's news. He could be talking about TWD, that's why I posted it. He could be implying about a DLC. And I don't think they're doing Season 3 work this early. Needless to say, I do like Scott Porter a lot. But that doesn't have anything to do with Sarah. Seems like you getting beaten to a pulp with valid arguments turned your only defence to insults.
Oh fuck no, that bitch is crazy. Saw her youtube where she would scorch any Kenny fan haha. But that thread that ID did about Luke being on … morethe dlc or whatever because his voice actor tweeted a voice recording session, is pretty creepy lol, not too mention majority of her posts are about Luke.
Do you really think Sarah knew her father was going to get fucking eaten? She wasn't even making loud noises, a few mumbles. That's it. Carlos was acting like she was screaming at the top of her lungs. Sarah's reaction is realistic, because trust me, you'd probably do the same.
It's not Sarah's fault she reacted how most people would, right? She can't help it, just like Carlos couldn't help getting shot/eaten.
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Carlos getting shot by stray bullet says nothing of his character; Sarah making noise whilst standing beside you (which she was doing before her father was shot, by the way), then screaming and running in a freaking zombie horde speaks to her ineptitude, which was shown time and time again.
But in all seriousness, It'd have to be Killing Kenny/Or Looking away. No Going Back was just an amazing spectacle of an episode, and that ending really tested whether you wanted to survive, or keep your loved ones close. Even though I felt I chose the wrong answer, in shooting Kenny.
My favorite from Season 1 was Saving/Dropping Ben (I saved him) for the same reasons.
Ben starts a deal with bandits to save his friend and keep the bandits off our backs at the same time, it just so happens that things backfire against him.
"just so happens"
He stole the medical supplies which caused massive paranoia and tension inside the group and could have lead to people's death. If he had just told the group about the bandits and the deal, all of that mess could have been avoided because we could have devised a plan around that information, and possibly left safely in the RV. He didn't do that though because he had his own agenda and used our people and our supplies (which Kenny and Lee risked their lives for, by the way) to do it. It was either deliberate and calculated or pure stupidity; either way the result was a long string of deaths tied directly to his name.
I wouldn't say that Ben, Sarah or Duck are bad characters, Ben's actually my favorite, what you can say is that they won't directly help you… more, although they certainly try their hardest. Ben starts a deal with bandits to save his friend and keep the bandits off our backs at the same time, it just so happens that things backfire against him.
Sarah also tries by persuading you to teach her how to use a gun (determinant) she even knows that she needs to learn, but the death of Carlos triggers her PTSD, and she panics.
Are they the best survivors? No. Do they try? Yes. Does being bad at survival make them bad characters? No, but it's all up to opinion in the end.
Lul, I love how that excuse is thrown out by douchebags as some half-assed justification for their stupidity.
Let me tell you a secret: I'd much rather be with nice people than some incompetent, egotistic, unstable maniac i.e. the two adults at the end of Season 2. This world's already full of lousy people - why do you want to be like them
And I would say that...judging her based on how she can be of use to you rather than as a human being, is a mighty big controversial stateme… morent that won't gain you any sympathy points here.
DUDE. It's the zombie apocalypse. Of course I'm looking out for how people can be of use to me. Seriously. Why would I just go around letting uncapable people drag me down?
You know, for all the sympathy you're oh-so happily dispensing onto others you are forgetting to give some to Clem, because to make her stay with people like Ben & Sarah is like putting a 50kg weight around her ankle.
I never said that I didn't "expect" her to not scream or run, just that her doing so was another non-thinking, careless act to add to the gr… moreowing list of careless things she had done that make up her personality.
I don't see what's controversial about my comments, at all. Sarah was a burden and I, personally, did not want to waste time, energy and resources on such an unable person. That's it.
She's got more guts than him. Most men would probably be filling their pants while surrounded by a horde of flesh-eating cannibals, covered in disgusting necrotic flesh, and risking the possibility of getting their brains blown out by the people shooting at them.
Do you really think Sarah knew her father was going to get fucking eaten? She wasn't even making loud noises, a few mumbles. That's it. Carl… moreos was acting like she was screaming at the top of her lungs. Sarah's reaction is realistic, because trust me, you'd probably do the same.
I have nothing to hide or fake about, im saying what i'd really do, you want to believe it or not, i can't change the way you think.
And im… more, not trying to be a tough guy, when did i ever say that? I said the way Sarah acted was weak and it is a like they say "Moment of weakness".
Like Luke with his "moment of weakness" when he was suppose to be watching for walkers but decides to go fuck Jane instead. If you want to go fuck someone, do it when you're not assigned a task to do. That's weak minded pal.
And I would say that...judging her based on how she can be of use to you rather than as a human being, is a mighty big controversial stateme… morent that won't gain you any sympathy points here.
DUDE. It's the zombie apocalypse. Of course I'm looking out for how people can be of use to me. Seriously. Why would I just go around letting uncapable people drag me down?
You know, for all the sympathy you're oh-so happily dispensing onto others you are forgetting to give some to Clem, because to make her stay with people like Ben & Sarah is like putting a 50kg weight around her ankle.
I don't believe the RV was working at the time, even in the middle of the firefight either Doug or Kenny had to fix the RV (though they work on different parts, which creates a bit of a plot hole), and had he told the group and the bandit found out, they would've attacked the moment they learned. He couldn't tell us after the firefight due to Lilly going crazy trying to find whoever stole supplies, she even tries to kill Ben with no evidence if you save Doug, and I believe she would have tried had she been told the truth. He probably didn't tell us even after that due to the death of Carley/Doug, fearing a similar reaction from someone else, especially Kenny, who always judges someone without getting to know them. He only tells us after being to burdened with guilt, which is a human thing to do, and he later admits this to Kenny due to the guilt.
Honestly, to me he's one of the best characters in this game (especially due to what he does in episode 5 if you save him), so I'll be a bit biased in this conversation, but so are you because you hate him so vehemently.
Ben starts a deal with bandits to save his friend and keep the bandits off our backs at the same time, it just so happens that things backfi… morere against him.
"just so happens"
He stole the medical supplies which caused massive paranoia and tension inside the group and could have lead to people's death. If he had just told the group about the bandits and the deal, all of that mess could have been avoided because we could have devised a plan around that information, and possibly left safely in the RV. He didn't do that though because he had his own agenda and used our people and our supplies (which Kenny and Lee risked their lives for, by the way) to do it. It was either deliberate and calculated or pure stupidity; either way the result was a long string of deaths tied directly to his name.
She's got more guts than him. Most men would probably be filling their pants while surrounded by a horde of flesh-eating cannibals, covered… more in disgusting necrotic flesh, and risking the possibility of getting their brains blown out by the people shooting at them.
The Storm was just a really, really badly-written mess. Bonnie unloads an assault rifle in the middle of the horde and doesn't get noticed by either the zombies or by the guards shooting at her. Only five out of 3,000 zombies even pay attention to Sarah and Clem. Kenny spends an entire minute screaming over Sarita's zombified corpse. Nick, Kenny, Luke and Mike suddenly start running through the horde like idiots, because logic died once the dead walked.
You know, I should create a Bingo for all the cliches that Sarah-Haters spout. I'm surprised this guy hasn't yet accused her of throwing Reggie off a roof.
You know, I should create a Bingo for all the cliches that Sarah-Haters spout. I'm surprised this guy hasn't yet accused her of throwing Reggie off a roof.
The Storm was just a really, really badly-written mess. Bonnie unloads an assault rifle in the middle of the horde and doesn't get noticed … moreby either the zombies or by the guards shooting at her. Only five out of 3,000 zombies even pay attention to Sarah and Clem. Kenny spends an entire minute screaming over Sarita's zombified corpse. Nick, Kenny, Luke and Mike suddenly start running through the horde like idiots, because logic died once the dead walked.
You know, I should create a Bingo for all the cliches that Sarah-Haters spout. I'm surprised this guy hasn't yet accused her of throwing Reggie off a roof.
You know, I should create a Bingo for all the cliches that Sarah-Haters spout. I'm surprised this guy hasn't yet accused her of throwing Reggie off a roof.
This is my new bio.
You know, I should create a Bingo for all the cliches that Sarah-Haters spout. I'm surprised this guy hasn't yet accused her of throwing Reggie off a roof.
This is my new bio.
What happened to carlos was caused by someone else and he couldnt do anything but die. Sarah didnt have to scream, but she did, so your argument is invalid. Only one of them had control over their actions after that gunshot.
What happened to carlos was caused by someone else and he couldnt do anything but die. Sarah didnt have to scream, but she did, so your argument is invalid. Only one of them had control over their actions after that gunshot.
Sarah just watched her dad get shot and devoured in front of her. You really think people think what to do, it's called heat of the moment and instincts.
What happened to carlos was caused by someone else and he couldnt do anything but die. Sarah didnt have to scream, but she did, so your argument is invalid. Only one of them had control over their actions after that gunshot.
What happened to carlos was caused by someone else and he couldnt do anything but die. Sarah didnt have to scream, but she did, so your argument is invalid. Only one of them had control over their actions after that gunshot.
Sarah just watched her dad get shot and devoured in front of her. You really think people think what to do, it's called heat of the moment and instincts.
She had no control.
What happened to carlos was caused by someone else and he couldnt do anything but die. Sarah didnt have to scream, but she did, so your argument is invalid. Only one of them had control over their actions after that gunshot.
If you give in to the fear, then of course logical reaction is to scream. And if you are sadistic and sick, laughing would be the response. These however are not reflexes.
If someone pulls out a gun in intent to murder you, would you scream, surrender, or try to take a way the gun? By your logic, screaming would be the answer, since majority of people fears dying? Its all up to choosing how to react and controlling your emotions.
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***Everyone ***you are in the ZA can put you in danger :P
So, what does my obsession with a video character have to do with this at all? I didn't even say or imply that it was a DLC ABOUT HIM ONLY. Go back and read the thread, obviously you'd be hyped up if you favourite character's VA tweeted something like that. Hell, you'd shit your pants.
I wouldn't say that Ben, Sarah or Duck are bad characters, Ben's actually my favorite, what you can say is that they won't directly help you, although they certainly try their hardest. Ben starts a deal with bandits to save his friend and keep the bandits off our backs at the same time, it just so happens that things backfire against him.
Sarah also tries by persuading you to teach her how to use a gun (determinant) she even knows that she needs to learn, but the death of Carlos triggers her PTSD, and she panics.
Are they the best survivors? No. Do they try? Yes. Does being bad at survival make them bad characters? No, but it's all up to opinion in the end.
How is that creepy? It's news. He could be talking about TWD, that's why I posted it. He could be implying about a DLC. And I don't think they're doing Season 3 work this early. Needless to say, I do like Scott Porter a lot. But that doesn't have anything to do with Sarah. Seems like you getting beaten to a pulp with valid arguments turned your only defence to insults.
Do you really think Sarah knew her father was going to get fucking eaten? She wasn't even making loud noises, a few mumbles. That's it. Carlos was acting like she was screaming at the top of her lungs. Sarah's reaction is realistic, because trust me, you'd probably do the same.
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"You know, you're a strange guy, Lee."
But in all seriousness, It'd have to be Killing Kenny/Or Looking away. No Going Back was just an amazing spectacle of an episode, and that ending really tested whether you wanted to survive, or keep your loved ones close. Even though I felt I chose the wrong answer, in shooting Kenny.
My favorite from Season 1 was Saving/Dropping Ben (I saved him) for the same reasons.
"just so happens"
He stole the medical supplies which caused massive paranoia and tension inside the group and could have lead to people's death. If he had just told the group about the bandits and the deal, all of that mess could have been avoided because we could have devised a plan around that information, and possibly left safely in the RV. He didn't do that though because he had his own agenda and used our people and our supplies (which Kenny and Lee risked their lives for, by the way) to do it. It was either deliberate and calculated or pure stupidity; either way the result was a long string of deaths tied directly to his name.
Lul, I love how that excuse is thrown out by douchebags as some half-assed justification for their stupidity.
Let me tell you a secret: I'd much rather be with nice people than some incompetent, egotistic, unstable maniac i.e. the two adults at the end of Season 2. This world's already full of lousy people - why do you want to be like them
With an attitude like yours, I can see how people wouldn't want to waste time, energy and resources on such an unable burden. :-)
She's got more guts than him. Most men would probably be filling their pants while surrounded by a horde of flesh-eating cannibals, covered in disgusting necrotic flesh, and risking the possibility of getting their brains blown out by the people shooting at them.
I'm willing to bet you haven't even been in a real fight. Most kids in the US are really damn sheltered.
You're a lot more like Sarah than you realize. The only difference is that she doesn't pretend to be someone she isn't.
It's not their fault the ZA happened and Ben constantly screwed up on accident while Sarah got anxiety/PTSD over it.
I don't believe the RV was working at the time, even in the middle of the firefight either Doug or Kenny had to fix the RV (though they work on different parts, which creates a bit of a plot hole), and had he told the group and the bandit found out, they would've attacked the moment they learned. He couldn't tell us after the firefight due to Lilly going crazy trying to find whoever stole supplies, she even tries to kill Ben with no evidence if you save Doug, and I believe she would have tried had she been told the truth. He probably didn't tell us even after that due to the death of Carley/Doug, fearing a similar reaction from someone else, especially Kenny, who always judges someone without getting to know them. He only tells us after being to burdened with guilt, which is a human thing to do, and he later admits this to Kenny due to the guilt.
Honestly, to me he's one of the best characters in this game (especially due to what he does in episode 5 if you save him), so I'll be a bit biased in this conversation, but so are you because you hate him so vehemently.
Yeah. Look at it this way; What if Sarah was the one that was shot and eaten? You think Carlos would stay quiet? Of course not.
The Storm was just a really, really badly-written mess. Bonnie unloads an assault rifle in the middle of the horde and doesn't get noticed by either the zombies or by the guards shooting at her. Only five out of 3,000 zombies even pay attention to Sarah and Clem. Kenny spends an entire minute screaming over Sarita's zombified corpse. Nick, Kenny, Luke and Mike suddenly start running through the horde like idiots, because logic died once the dead walked.
You know, I should create a Bingo for all the cliches that Sarah-Haters spout. I'm surprised this guy hasn't yet accused her of throwing Reggie off a roof.
This is my new bio.
after sarah get bitch slap by her dad
Clem: [ It Takes Practice] you can control the pain sometimes, it takes practice
Sarah: really? but i don't wanna practice that :'/
in harms way xD
You actually did it...
I let the timer run out so I could see it.
I don't lie, Creep.
Bokor, I think you're becoming my new favorite user.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKKaIX1PD_A
yeah...
Yeah and I don't Creep either... Heh.... heh...
I just don't pick up the gun, saves me a few seconds.
I'm flattered.
What happened to carlos was caused by someone else and he couldnt do anything but die. Sarah didnt have to scream, but she did, so your argument is invalid. Only one of them had control over their actions after that gunshot.
Clem- Shouldn´t do a lot of things
Sarah just watched her dad get shot and devoured in front of her. You really think people think what to do, it's called heat of the moment and instincts.
She had no control.
Hah i know i wished i could've killed her earlier, like the minute i saw her. She hadn't helped in any way.
Well screaming is a sign of fear, a chemical reaction in your brain and used to signal distress or fear. So I mean that's pretty much uncontrollable.
Lee- "..."
Andy- "You're a strange guy, Lee."
Like, we already knew the walker guts thing. That's about it.
Oh, you don't need to pick up the gun? Cool.
You do not. If you wait like 7 or 8 seconds, it automatically cuts to Kenny stabbing Jane.
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lmao. In Sarah's case, there's no such thing as "didn't have to". It was her immediate reaction. Sorry she's not as cold hearted as you, buddy.
You're a funny person, have you ever witnessed something horrible?
Thanks dude. c:
If you give in to the fear, then of course logical reaction is to scream. And if you are sadistic and sick, laughing would be the response. These however are not reflexes.
If someone pulls out a gun in intent to murder you, would you scream, surrender, or try to take a way the gun? By your logic, screaming would be the answer, since majority of people fears dying? Its all up to choosing how to react and controlling your emotions.