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Did the way Arvo set up Clem, Kenny and the group look similar to how Dimitri set up Niko in GTA IV?
Say what you want but it feels almost the same.
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Did the way Arvo set up Clem, Kenny and the group look similar to how Dimitri set up Niko in GTA IV?
Say what you want but it feels almost the same.
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But... But... Kenny beat up a teenager and deserves to be burned for it for all eternity even though that person tried to get your whole group killed including an innocent baby! (TellTale fanbase logic)
Depends what your view on morality is. Is punishment morality a good thing? Like, do bad deeds deserve bad punishments, or does that undermine the concept of rehabilitative justice?
Regardless, mocking the views of some of the fanbase is hardly the best way to induce positive discussion.
Arvo wasnt anybody in the groups friend or ally ever so its not really the same thing
That's why if someone brings forth ill-intent, an ambush, and losses. It's fair game at that point to just quickly dispose of the nascence.
Fuck his "food" and his "shelter." How could someone trust the word of a man who moments ago was content with robbing and possibly gunning down a group of people who (determinately) never harmed or stole from him? Even if you did, him trying to rob a group of tired and tattered survivors barely hanging on is reason enough for him to get shot up.
He's a weasel, nothing more.
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...that has nothing to do with my point?
I'm not saying he was a nice guy. I'm saying bad guys don't deserve to be beaten half to death and have racial slurs hurled at them.
Well, you were asking what is "moral" or "immoral." It ranges differently from person to person, I'm simply stating where I stand on Arvo. A quick shot to the head is more than just in my book.
No, I was questioning the concept of punishment as justice entirely.
Justice in modern western society is supposed to be about a mix of punishment and rehabilitation, not pure vengeance like shooting someone in the head would be.
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Yeah but there are a lot of other similarities. Two soft speaking Russians betraying the protagonist and trying y o kill them over something they supposedly stole.
I think you've just answered your own question then. Kinda, at least. Modern society has a system in place, the ZA does not. Meaning that if someone wrongs you, there is nothing to deter them from continuing to wrong more. Which is why, if there's no police force, government, or a court system to help facilitate "capital punishment" it falls on individuals. And as an individual, it'd be our responsibility to be as fair as we can. A quick painless death doesn't seem so bad.
I agree wit Clemin. In the ZA it's the laws of the jungle. There is no way to punish someone in a civil manner. What would you do exactly? How would you ensure he wouldn't end up shooting someone in your group? Oh woops that right, he did do that with Clementine.
But most people would say they want to go back to the laws of modern society, thus that kind of focus on compassion is still held as morally cool.
I'm not sure how a quick painless death is 'fair'. Like, why cant they just abandon Arvo? WHy is murder necessary?
They would say that. But unless they know how that system operates, their wouldn't be a lot of good in just wanting it back to normal. They'd be a lot of lopsided rules, overlooking detailed analysis for deterring crimes, and statistics being less-than-competent, etc.
A shot in the head is fair. Leaving him to starve and freeze to death after slaughtering all his friends and his sister seem a bit more cruel. Not saying I'd be completely against stripping him nude and leaving him though. But I still favor making sure he never harms anyone again.