I notice a lot of people have been saying that "they miss being able to beat people up" and stuff like that. Well to them I say this: go and… more play some other shallow meaningless game that will satisfy your addiction for pointless violence. The Walking Dead is not great because of its action but because of the way characters interact and the way its deeper themes explore how living in a destroyed world can alter people. It explores all elements of our humanity. If you aren't educated enough to understand that, then go and play Manhunt or something like that which glorifies violence.
I notice a lot of people have been saying that "they miss being able to beat people up" and stuff like that. Well to them I say this: go and… more play some other shallow meaningless game that will satisfy your addiction for pointless violence. The Walking Dead is not great because of its action but because of the way characters interact and the way its deeper themes explore how living in a destroyed world can alter people. It explores all elements of our humanity. If you aren't educated enough to understand that, then go and play Manhunt or something like that which glorifies violence.
Well I'm glad you've taking it diffrently than I expected. I'm happy to see someone looking it at the bright side Good for you.
Grow up into an adult that makes sense in such a serious choice game.
Has the obvious just been told?
Clem can still be in it but just not playing as her
We should probably declare a syndrome for this particular sensibility. How about "I'll-totaly-get-popped-when-a-real-apocalypse-starts" syndrome? It sounds quite good to me.
Not trying to be a dick.
People who are not OK playing as Clementine should go back to their COD / action based games.
Ah grow up.
Exactly glad you get it. Grow up into an adult that makes sense in such a serious choice game.
Clem can still be in it but just not playing as her
Do you mean me? If so, I totally disagree that the Walking Dead is an action based game, as every single comment I've ever made on this forum shows. If you didn't mean me, then I apologize for jumping to conclusions.
You deserve that god damn cookie because you are so fucking right, you can go play basically any other game if you want violence. I will give you a cupcake to ensure that you are satisfied after stillnotbitten's cookie. hands red velvet cupcake
I notice a lot of people have been saying that "they miss being able to beat people up" and stuff like that. Well to them I say this: go and… more play some other shallow meaningless game that will satisfy your addiction for pointless violence. The Walking Dead is not great because of its action but because of the way characters interact and the way its deeper themes explore how living in a destroyed world can alter people. It explores all elements of our humanity. If you aren't educated enough to understand that, then go and play Manhunt or something like that which glorifies violence.
Not a bad idea, but there are a few problems:
1. Depending on their age (say if they're REALLY old) then they will have as many physical difficulties as Clementine does
2. An older guys character is already pretty much set in stone, so character development would be harder.
On a side note, how old was Pete? He didn't seem that old to me, maybe late 40's (though I assume he was meant to seem older since Nick is around his twenties and Pete is supposed to be his Uncle)?
You deserve that god damn cookie because you are so fucking right, you can go play basically any other game if you want violence. I will give you a cupcake to ensure that you are satisfied after stillnotbitten's cookie. hands red velvet cupcake
Why? So ill die in an apocalypse because I dont want to play as a child?
Eh my thought is I dont like playing as a child which dosnt make a bit of sense for half the stuff shes doing/ being asked to do. I dont like playing as clementine and to be honest I gave it shot with season 2, it didnt really work half the time. Not to mention clementines character is essentially dead due to her being the protagonist; its impossible for her to develop
Well I'm glad you've taking it diffrently than I expected. I'm happy to see someone looking it at the bright side Good for you.
Grow … moreup into an adult that makes sense in such a serious choice game.
Has the obvious just been told?
Clem can still be in it but just not playing as her
We should probably declare a syndrome for this particular sensibility. How about "I'll-totaly-get-popped-when-a-real-apocalypse-starts" syndrome? It sounds quite good to me.
Not trying to be a dick.
People who are not OK playing as Clementine should go back to their COD / action based games.
Obviously I don't mean literally every single one. I know that's not true. But given the fact that straight guys are a privileged majority, especially when it comes to fanservice, and this is one rare gaming instance where the love interest isn't sexualized to appeal to them, thus personally making me feel more included and comfortable when playing this game, I think I'm within my right to exaggerate a little bit, because I'm talking about something that bothers me. And given the fact I'm talking about a privileged majority, here, I don't think my words are going to do any longstanding harm other than make you feel a little bit peeved for a few minutes--but the sexualization of female characters has profound lasting effects. Your feelings in this situation are peanuts in comparison.
If you're trying to say you're not one of those guys, then I'd expect you to have a little more sympathy, here. I would think you'd stop and think, "Yeah, it's gross how people didn't sexualize Carley, I'm glad I didn't, and I can understand why that would frustrate skoothz into making a casual blanket statement." But when you decide to nitpick my language it feels more like your goal here is to just tell me how wrong I am rather than actually prove me wrong.
And by the way, if you really want to nitpick, I wasn't actually saying "all straight guys." I was saying "all she's remembered as, by straight guys." The "all" was in reference to her. But w/e.
Obviously I don't mean literally every single one. I know that's not true. But given the fact that straight guys are a privileged majority, … moreespecially when it comes to fanservice, and this is one rare gaming instance where the love interest isn't sexualized to appeal to them, thus personally making me feel more included and comfortable when playing this game, I think I'm within my right to exaggerate a little bit, because I'm talking about something that bothers me. And given the fact I'm talking about a privileged majority, here, I don't think my words are going to do any longstanding harm other than make you feel a little bit peeved for a few minutes--but the sexualization of female characters has profound lasting effects. Your feelings in this situation are peanuts in comparison.
If you're trying to say you're not one of those guys, then I'd expect you to have a little more sympathy, here. I would think you'd stop and think, "Yeah, it's… [view original content]
Obviously I don't mean literally every single one. I know that's not true. But given the fact that straight guys are a privileged majority, … moreespecially when it comes to fanservice, and this is one rare gaming instance where the love interest isn't sexualized to appeal to them, thus personally making me feel more included and comfortable when playing this game, I think I'm within my right to exaggerate a little bit, because I'm talking about something that bothers me. And given the fact I'm talking about a privileged majority, here, I don't think my words are going to do any longstanding harm other than make you feel a little bit peeved for a few minutes--but the sexualization of female characters has profound lasting effects. Your feelings in this situation are peanuts in comparison.
If you're trying to say you're not one of those guys, then I'd expect you to have a little more sympathy, here. I would think you'd stop and think, "Yeah, it's… [view original content]
Wouldn't use the term "oppression", per se, but when game after game presents women as nothing but sex objects, yeah it does kind of have it's limits. It does kind of make you defensive of the ones that AREN'T treated like that. So jeez man, sue me for getting a little bit heated, here.
Really, most games these days don't. You shouldn't be heated because there is no reason to, it was over a joke then you decided to generalize men as if it was your revenge for women being generalized in some game. After Green gets defensive then you decide to post a novel to him when all you needed was the last lines. Calm down ,you're not oppressed from a video game.
Wouldn't use the term "oppression", per se, but when game after game presents women as nothing but sex objects, yeah it does kind of have it… more's limits. It does kind of make you defensive of the ones that AREN'T treated like that. So jeez man, sue me for getting a little bit heated, here.
Wouldn't use the term "oppression", per se, but when game after game presents women as nothing but sex objects, yeah it does kind of have it… more's limits. It does kind of make you defensive of the ones that AREN'T treated like that. So jeez man, sue me for getting a little bit heated, here.
Man or woman, doesn't matter to me. I just want to be an adult again so I can actually (and believably) make important decisions for the story I'm supposed to be immersed in.
I only want to play as an adult simply because the power we have, and the decisions we are capable of making would be a lot more believable/realistic if it were coming from an adult. It's extremely difficult to immerse yourself in a game with the foundation of speculative fiction when no amount of speculation can justify so many adults depending on a child unless they were mentally unsound or retarded. Nobody in their right mind would give so much responsibility or delegate so much power to an 11 year old child. Doesn't matter how mature the kid is. I don't particularly care if we play as female or male, but if given the choice, I admit I tend to play as guys more often than girls.
Obviously I don't mean literally every single one. I know that's not true. But given the fact that straight guys are a privileged majority, … moreespecially when it comes to fanservice, and this is one rare gaming instance where the love interest isn't sexualized to appeal to them, thus personally making me feel more included and comfortable when playing this game, I think I'm within my right to exaggerate a little bit, because I'm talking about something that bothers me. And given the fact I'm talking about a privileged majority, here, I don't think my words are going to do any longstanding harm other than make you feel a little bit peeved for a few minutes--but the sexualization of female characters has profound lasting effects. Your feelings in this situation are peanuts in comparison.
If you're trying to say you're not one of those guys, then I'd expect you to have a little more sympathy, here. I would think you'd stop and think, "Yeah, it's… [view original content]
Why does it automatically make it generic and stale if the main character is a male? What difference does it really make, so long as the story is good? Lee was a male character that most of us enjoyed playing as, so I'm sure they could make another. Ultimately to me it doesn't matter as long as the story is good. If they make the protagonist an adult male I'm not going to bitch and moan, and if they make the protagonist an adult female, or 11 year old female, I'm not going to bitch and moan; so long as the story is good.
As a side note, I do agree that many of the things Clem did were entirely unrealistic, like kicking the door in.
As a side note, I do agree that many of the things Clem did were entirely unrealistic, like kicking the door in.
I still have no idea what kind of drugs Telltale was using when they decided it was reasonable to have Clem do such a thing. Did they forget they were animating Clementine and not Bigby from TWAU?
Why does it automatically make it generic and stale if the main character is a male? What difference does it really make, so long as the sto… morery is good? Lee was a male character that most of us enjoyed playing as, so I'm sure they could make another. Ultimately to me it doesn't matter as long as the story is good. If they make the protagonist an adult male I'm not going to bitch and moan, and if they make the protagonist an adult female, or 11 year old female, I'm not going to bitch and moan; so long as the story is good.
As a side note, I do agree that many of the things Clem did were entirely unrealistic, like kicking the door in.
As a side note, I do agree that many of the things Clem did were entirely unrealistic, like kicking the door in.
I still have no ide… morea what kind of drugs Telltale was using when they decided it was reasonable to have Clem do such a thing. Did they forget they were animating Clementine and not Bigby from TWAU?
As a side note, I do agree that many of the things Clem did were entirely unrealistic, like kicking the door in.
I still have no ide… morea what kind of drugs Telltale was using when they decided it was reasonable to have Clem do such a thing. Did they forget they were animating Clementine and not Bigby from TWAU?
All joking or seriousness aside, that's kinda why Dragon Age and Mass Effect have become my favorite games now. Just the amount of customization we get into making the person we're playing as and the chance to be able to make it that much more of a memorable experience. I can appreciate video games that are good, no matter who we play as, but playing as the generic male hero is getting old.
Why can't it just be like Dragon Age/Mass Effect where you get to chose your sex your character. Everyone is happy. Then just cast either Shep or FemShep.
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hell yea....play as an ADULT MALE please!
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Exactly glad you get it. Grow up into an adult that makes sense in such a serious choice game.
Clem can still be in it but just not playing as her
Blerg, no thank you. Adult males are overdone.
Well I'm glad you've taking it diffrently than I expected. I'm happy to see someone looking it at the bright side
Good for you.
Has the obvious just been told?
We should probably declare a syndrome for this particular sensibility. How about "I'll-totaly-get-popped-when-a-real-apocalypse-starts" syndrome? It sounds quite good to me.
Not trying to be a dick.
People who are not OK playing as Clementine should go back to their COD / action based games.
Finally someone that gets it.
Why thank you.
Do you mean me? If so, I totally disagree that the Walking Dead is an action based game, as every single comment I've ever made on this forum shows. If you didn't mean me, then I apologize for jumping to conclusions.
You deserve that god damn cookie because you are so fucking right, you can go play basically any other game if you want violence. I will give you a cupcake to ensure that you are satisfied after stillnotbitten's cookie. hands red velvet cupcake
Not a bad idea, but there are a few problems:
1. Depending on their age (say if they're REALLY old) then they will have as many physical difficulties as Clementine does
2. An older guys character is already pretty much set in stone, so character development would be harder.
On a side note, how old was Pete? He didn't seem that old to me, maybe late 40's (though I assume he was meant to seem older since Nick is around his twenties and Pete is supposed to be his Uncle)?
Holy Jesus, someone who understands what this game is about!
Exactly.
You are too kind
Why? So ill die in an apocalypse because I dont want to play as a child?
Eh my thought is I dont like playing as a child which dosnt make a bit of sense for half the stuff shes doing/ being asked to do. I dont like playing as clementine and to be honest I gave it shot with season 2, it didnt really work half the time. Not to mention clementines character is essentially dead due to her being the protagonist; its impossible for her to develop
Obviously I don't mean literally every single one. I know that's not true. But given the fact that straight guys are a privileged majority, especially when it comes to fanservice, and this is one rare gaming instance where the love interest isn't sexualized to appeal to them, thus personally making me feel more included and comfortable when playing this game, I think I'm within my right to exaggerate a little bit, because I'm talking about something that bothers me. And given the fact I'm talking about a privileged majority, here, I don't think my words are going to do any longstanding harm other than make you feel a little bit peeved for a few minutes--but the sexualization of female characters has profound lasting effects. Your feelings in this situation are peanuts in comparison.
If you're trying to say you're not one of those guys, then I'd expect you to have a little more sympathy, here. I would think you'd stop and think, "Yeah, it's gross how people didn't sexualize Carley, I'm glad I didn't, and I can understand why that would frustrate skoothz into making a casual blanket statement." But when you decide to nitpick my language it feels more like your goal here is to just tell me how wrong I am rather than actually prove me wrong.
And by the way, if you really want to nitpick, I wasn't actually saying "all straight guys." I was saying "all she's remembered as, by straight guys." The "all" was in reference to her. But w/e.
Great it's turning into fucking Tumblr because of a joke.
You know all I needed to hear was the end part, I see it was a misreading on my part, so why didn't you just point that out and be on with your day?
ShaneWalsh do you also eat flour and watch static on the television because honestly your interests are bland as hell.
oh no the mean sjws are here to take sexism seriously
Because regardless of what I meant, your comment is still unnecessary.
Oh no the sjws are here to make a big deal out of video games!
You're really being oppressed aren't you?
Wtf you dont know me! Lol
Yeah, and so is the novel you typed me.
different story same universe and kirkman is in charge of that universe not telltale
Wouldn't use the term "oppression", per se, but when game after game presents women as nothing but sex objects, yeah it does kind of have it's limits. It does kind of make you defensive of the ones that AREN'T treated like that. So jeez man, sue me for getting a little bit heated, here.
Sex objects?
Really, most games these days don't. You shouldn't be heated because there is no reason to, it was over a joke then you decided to generalize men as if it was your revenge for women being generalized in some game. After Green gets defensive then you decide to post a novel to him when all you needed was the last lines. Calm down ,you're not oppressed from a video game.
Just out of curiosity, do you happen to have any current examples to back this up?
Okay yeah I walked into that one.
Man or woman, doesn't matter to me. I just want to be an adult again so I can actually (and believably) make important decisions for the story I'm supposed to be immersed in.
I only want to play as an adult simply because the power we have, and the decisions we are capable of making would be a lot more believable/realistic if it were coming from an adult. It's extremely difficult to immerse yourself in a game with the foundation of speculative fiction when no amount of speculation can justify so many adults depending on a child unless they were mentally unsound or retarded. Nobody in their right mind would give so much responsibility or delegate so much power to an 11 year old child. Doesn't matter how mature the kid is. I don't particularly care if we play as female or male, but if given the choice, I admit I tend to play as guys more often than girls.
I can tell you have a Tumblr account.
We do know (assume) that you're a male though, so allow us to project things upon you based on the interests we perceive you to have.
Why does it automatically make it generic and stale if the main character is a male? What difference does it really make, so long as the story is good? Lee was a male character that most of us enjoyed playing as, so I'm sure they could make another. Ultimately to me it doesn't matter as long as the story is good. If they make the protagonist an adult male I'm not going to bitch and moan, and if they make the protagonist an adult female, or 11 year old female, I'm not going to bitch and moan; so long as the story is good.
As a side note, I do agree that many of the things Clem did were entirely unrealistic, like kicking the door in.
I still have no idea what kind of drugs Telltale was using when they decided it was reasonable to have Clem do such a thing. Did they forget they were animating Clementine and not Bigby from TWAU?
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Like when Clem pulled Lee to the jewerly store in S1
All joking or seriousness aside, that's kinda why Dragon Age and Mass Effect have become my favorite games now. Just the amount of customization we get into making the person we're playing as and the chance to be able to make it that much more of a memorable experience. I can appreciate video games that are good, no matter who we play as, but playing as the generic male hero is getting old.