Nate should have replaced Kenny.
I mentioned this in a previous thread but I wanted to elaborate more on it. Kenny was dead. Its a fact, he was dead in S1 we all saw it. No one gets overpowered by walkers and lives to tell the tales. Sorry Nick Breckon "I got lucky" just doesn't suffice and leaves many more than myself unconvinced.
Now I think Nate would have been a better choice with multiple reasons.
A better choice simulator: He could really have been an interesting evil ally. Your decisions could have affected your relationships with him more. He would probably want you to watch him kill Carver.
Would be better for Clementine's character development: Clem has never had an ally such as Nate and hasn't met someone like him. The interactions and dialogue between them would be memorable.
It would add a redemption taste to the story: I heard someone talk about S3 being about redemption. Nate, a disturbed individual doing bad things finding innocence and a chance of redeeming himself in protecting Clementine would have ensured a much better plot.
Kenny is dead: As stated above. I can't stress this enough. TWD Logic isn't real world logic
So yeah this concludes it.
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Good thought except the two groups would have kept fighting in Episode 2
That's basically applies to every fictional Movie/Video Game/ Book
Nate could have been a good twist, but I liked seeing Kenny back, my complaint is that S2 felt like a giant Fan Fic to me, idk why....
no
Nate could've been there without writing off Kenny.
dude they intentionally didnt show us kenny dying in s1 so they could bring him back in s2 it was almost too obvious in both possible scenes. literally anyone with eyes and a brain knew there was a good chance kenny would return later in the series. not sure why you were so shocked. and no, i dont think nate would have been better in his place because clem has absolutely no prior connection to nate and thus the feels would not have been achieved during the finale
Season 2 had plenty of time to develop a relationship between the two. I don't know how obvious it was. I knew he was coming back since the Episode 2 trailer. Kenny's character would have been fine where they left it. Dying a hero's death instead of returning and burying the entire cast.
when i refer to the obviousness of it, i mean the scene of his "death" in s1e5. pretty much in any form of media if a character is made to look like they died, but the actual killing blow and picture of the lifeless corpse is not presented, they prolly did it on purpose to bring the character back later on down the line.
I can believe Kenny got away from the walkers. Tyreese did it, in the comics and show, so..
But I do want Nate. I love him. Now let us pray:
Hail Nate, full of whiskey. The truck is with thee. Blessed are among junkies, and blessed is the fruit of thy loin Beak. Holy Nate, father of Rus, pray for asswipes, now onto the hour of our double-back. Amen.
Both of Kenny's "death" sequences were purposely left ambiguous so they could bring him back for season two, while also getting the proper shock value from the audience. It might be highly improbable fro Kenny to have survived, but this is a video game and there are a few things you just need to let slide. This is one of them. As much as I adore Nate, I'm pleased with Kenny's arc in season 2. Season 3 is the time for Nate to shine, or should I say, wreak havoc.
(Hug Nate)
shivers
I'd rather have Nate instead of Kenny cause his "death" scene in Season One would have really meant something. Now, his brains are splattered all over a playground.
And Nate would have been more interesting instead of repeating Kenny's character arc.
WHAT
In all honesty, I don't know how anyone can look at a death that is so ambiguously written like Kenny's and say without a doubt that he is dead
The fact that they did a pick-up session to change his death scene cements it. Tell me one logical reason you'd go through the effort of bringing in the voice actor, deleting the old sound files, and re-recording the death scene in a much more ambiguous manner if you weren't planning on doing something with said character in the future
If you want to blame someone for bringing Kenny back, blame Vanaman. He's the reason he was able to survive. You can blame Breckon for refusing to elaborate on how he got out, sure, but he isn't the person that set the foundation to allow for his return. If Sean wanted Kenny's character to be dead, he'd have made his character truly dead like he originally did.
Nah, Lilly.
You know, you're passing all the blame onto Breckon for bringing him back when the idea originated and started with Vanaman, just saying. I agree that, "I got lucky," is a shitty reason, but it just sounds like you are completely ignoring Vanaman's part in the story and shifting it all to Breckon.
And sorry, I don't want Nate anywhere around Clementine. I've seen enough of him to know he's more of a danger to the group than an asset.
Thank you, someone else gets it.
Should have, could have, would have.
Didn't.
I'd prefer Nate.
I would have also accepted a quadruple amputee with bad gas, a fat hairy naked guy, a rock...
Or nothing, cause even nothing can be better written than that psychotic redneck shit heel's shoehorned presence in season 2.
you know what, i just want to see this period
telltale make it happen
I hate Kenny, a lot. But I still think this isn't a good idea.
His name can be Horus, and the rock's name can be Rocky.
Sucks you gotta deal with him for 2 seasons if you ever want to replay heh?
Ha!
Not really, I played season 1 twice and was done afterwards once I found out the choices didn't really affect anything, season 2 is too boring for me to waste my time having Lord Douche yell the entire 7 hours that pseudo-interactive T.V. show goes on for.
There were points I enjoyed though. Like wasting Duck in front of a crying Kenny. Or landing a razor sharp hatchet through Sarita's skullcap close enough for Kenny to remember every little detail. It definitely had a few nice moments like that...
Plus, getting to waste Kenny was so satisfying.
It feels like the game goes out of it's way to spite people that don't like Kenny at times
"Hey, so we heard you don't like this "redneck floridian hunk of horseshit" (your words, not ours). Is that true? Well fuck you buddy, we do what we want! Enjoy a romantic candle-lit dinner with him, or you can go fuck yourself!
xoxoxo, Telltale"
Imagine this, people that left with Jane will have dialogue based all around Kenny until Janes dies.
I agree. As a Nate Fan, i would rather him stay in Unknown Status, then him to be brought back just to die at Clementine's hands, I don't believe Nate is a evil guy, no more evil than Kenny, Jane, Lee etc. He been alone for a while, a little crazy but he isn't a evil dude, I think he has PTSD bad, but its more like mine, the exact opposite of Kenny. As someone who deals with PTSD you wall off your emotions (unintentionally), so i can understand why he doesn't care about what happens to people. He is able to disassociate his feelings, from things he does to survive. You have to be able to do this when your at war. You don't have time to stare at the blood pool form, every second counts.
Kenny should of never been brought back in S2, they should of just used Carlos like they planned to, before deciding to rehash the same story.
Nope
Who decided to bring Kenny back in S2?
Only to be buried by him like the rest of the S2 Cast
I'm gonna have to agree Kenny stole the spotlight quite a few times but I think they could have just split screentime a little better than they did.
I believe the idea lies with Vanaman, as Deltino said in his response. Vanaman decided to take out the version where Kenny dies, he decided to make it more ambiguous, he and Breckon created the storyline for Season 2, so it's really more on Vanaman than Breckon.
It really doesn't matter at this point.
Its not like we will get S3 any time soon, personally i really hope they can fix S3 story line. I don't want to get into the reasons why i disliked it, but it was what it was.
Hopefully the next Season won't be as predictable as S2.
I think Vanaman might have done it out of respect for the character. Characters you care about dying in a hardcore way could piss players off. Hence Johnny Klebitz in GTA V
Were people upset when he was killed? I never knew. I personally never liked Johnny so when he got stomped to death, i just went with it.
I think your right, Vanaman did it, to give the character a out. It didn't mean that they had to bring him back next season.
I doubt that was the reason. By the time they finished Season 1, Season 2 was already confirmed and ideas were being thrown around the table. Had the game just been one season, maybe they would have kept Kenny's death the way it was originally made, but because of Season 2, they took it out because they wanted to use him. It's similar to what they did with Mike in Season 2, he was originally meant to die if you chose to shoot him, but they took it out, quite possibly because they have a use for him.
Kenny Chronicles was in production!
Agreed btw Johnny wasn't a bad guy just not as mentally strong as the other GTA Guys
Anyone should have replaced Kenny IMO.
Really? I must have missed that crucial frame where Kenny was graphically torn limb-from-limb, leaving absolutely no doubt whatsoever he had kicked the bucket. I've got to learn to stop blinking while I play my games.
Thats a little far
Sam the dog should have replaced Kenny.