Don't judge Season 3 before it's even released.
I'm not very optimistic about Telltale making the effort to make several diverse opening scenes at the start of Season 3 that all eventually ties together by the next episode.
I'd imagine that Season 3 will start in a campfire where Clementine and Kenny/Jane (if they're around) reminiscences over what happened in the past (Howe/Wellington/Alone). Seems the most cost/time/work efficient that doesn't require as much effort as making five different openings.
I'll admit that my playthrough with S2 had made me feel bitter about how Season 3 will play out, but I am still hoping that they will at least try to avoid taking the easy way out by making either one ending canon or creating yet another time-skip.
In the first few minutes he dies, he's lost or he's already dead, and you end up in Wellington without him.
You end up there with the family and Jane regardless of whether you let them in as they come back and you feel you have to. The alone ending would result in Clem and AJ being alone with the family in Howe's as they got there first and let her in.
After season 2 I'm expecting nothing BUT stupid and predictable.
I think Jane/Kenny die in the first 10 minutes and Clem ends up in the same location regardless. I don´t want it to happen but I already see it coming.
Jeez guys, have a little faith in Telltale.
I know some people are disappointed or outright disgusted by how Season 2 ended out, and I understand why some of you feel that way, I do. But come on, you're all judging how Season 3 is going to be without any sort of details, information, or anything based on your feelings of how Season 2 was. Don't you think that's a little uncalled for?
I get that you may not have enjoyed Season 2 as much as Season 1, but that really doesn't give you any justifiable reason to start hating on Season 3 when there is absolutely no detail on what it's even going to be about. Telltale has amazed us all I think in the last few weeks with TFTBL and GOT, both games having multiple protagonists. People had their doubts about how Telltale was going to handle a Borderlands game but all those worries were blown out of the water after the first episode, and some were worried about how Telltale could handle 5 different protagonists with GOT but that seems to have died down. The point is that we can't judge something before we see it for ourselves, you might be surprised.
Look at the Minecraft game, I admit, I was someone who was complaining about it and judging it before I knew anything about it. I was wrong to think like that since there aren't any details on it yet, so we shouldn't judge Season 3 before it's out, who knows, Telltale may actually find a way to have our endings play an important role in Season 3, maybe Kenny or Jane will be alive for a good part of it, I don't know. All I'm saying is you can't judge something that's not even out yet or judge it when there aren't any details on it yet.
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That sucks lol
Err even though I love and enjoy Season 2 very much, it still left a bad taste to some people. Can't blame them though.
I'm not trying to judge Season three before its released but the way Season Two was written, and how the gameplay was, Telltale pretty much shot themselves in the foot. I'm hoping the third season will be good but the way the second season was, and if it uses the same formula, the third season is fucked.
You don't think Telltale knows the criticism they got for Season 2. With all the shit they've gotten, I'm pretty confident that they've learned from their mistakes and can improve Season 3.
The forums completely shit on the game, if you look anywhere else the game is completely praised by hundreds of people. Reviews are like a constant 8/10 aside from Amid the ruins of course. Unless they actually decided to look at the forums for once and read criticism we've given, or at least somewhere else that's given real criticism. I can't really see Telltale doing better than Season two, maybe they've learned from mistakes, I don't know. We'll just have to wait.
I'm not judging it. I have high hopes for it, considering Walking Dead is one of my favorite things. I just hope that the story/plot develop better than S2's story/plot did.
TWD S2 and TWAU had separate teams, I believe. Telltale had the team but plot wasn't well thought out IMO
With TWD and TWAU, it was the first time Telltale worked on two games, and as we saw, it was a mess at times and this was a big reason why. With TFTBL and GOT, it seems they have learned from the mistakes that they made and that makes me, as it should make everyone else, feel more confident in the quality of Season 3.
Considering this is on Telltale's site, and several people who work on the games do visit the forums every now and then, I'm sure they listen to the criticisms of fans. And it's not completely praised, other places are definitely kinder to the game, but it is nowhere near S1 levels and they do criticize it. And other than Amid (like you said) and No Going Back (which was closer to 8.5-9.0/10 range), the other episodes were 8/10, but Telltale can't (and shouldn't) be happy with it since S1 and Wolf were much higher.
I'll tell you something my baseball instructor told me, "When you try something new, you're going to get worse before you get better." Not only was there a new head writer, but it was the first time Telltale did multiple games at once, clearly there were mistakes made. With TFTBL and GOT, it seems they fixed it, which means they got better. With them learning from their mistakes, I have a lot of confidence that S3 will be better than S2.
We shouldn't judge any of Telltale's future products until they are released. I'm just excited for a new season of possibilities and potential characters to get to know.
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It didn't post so I put it there for you.
I don't think they did. If they did, people like Shorette, Stirpe, Lenart, Kaufman, and others wouldn't have written, designed, or be involved with both games. With TFTBL and GOT, they actually seem to have different teams, with separate writers, designers, animators, and others.
I've seen a bit of negativity around here for season 2 and a lot of speculation as to why, but for myself I pretty much just don't agree or bother to pay much attention to other's opinions. I loved season's 1 and 2, I love the game Telltale created and I can't wait for season 3.
For me, it's like the 2 best games ever, even if one is better than the other, doesn't mean one is a fail and to judge or think season 3 will fail before having even a single bit of information is just ridiculous.
Becides, why would anyone worry about how season 3 will be based on someone else's predictions or guesses? How about waiting for the game to come out, and play it yourself. Then decide for yourself if it was as good as you hoped or as bad as you feared.
Even if season 3 isn't as good as 1 and 2, they will still be episodes 1,2 and 3 of the best game ever for me so I have no concern's.
Season 3 is going to be awesome. Am I doing it wrong?
I fell in love with Season 1. It was a masterpiece. A beautiful game worthy of GOTY. Season 2 was not to say the very least, it didn't even feel like a game. I felt like I had no control and nothing ever changed. I'm more than willing to give Season 3 a chance but I sincerely hope Telltale knows just how big of a mistake Season 2 was and don't keep going down the same road.
Your choices did not matter in season 1 either.
So your defense was that they never mattered. (Chuckles to self.) Most of the choices you made had a direct impact upon your relationships with characters and the story. Season 2 failed miserably at this. I don't need to tell you it sucked when one of the main options of the final episode was to ask to go with Mike
The game was all about illusion of choice from the beginning. A big difference between S1 and S2 is that in S1 the illusion was much better. The choices were never meant to effect the plot, they were meant to effect the characters and how they perceive the protagonist, and that was a big part of what made S1 so enjoyable for me. In S2 there's a lot less of that.
Yeah ok season 2 mattered less choicewise, but the face animations were better, more detail/texture into faces, less glitchy. Season 1 had alot of awkward moments.
They improved a bunch of things. You cant just bash season 2 for the lack of relationship system
I prefer well developed characters to prettier ones, but that's just me. I feel like the heart of TWDG should be the character development, and I didn't like how there was so little of it S2 and that's a big part of why I bash on it so often. .3.
I can agree with this. But the characters made the plot. S2 didn't have the characters, control or writing the first one had. In short a big flop.
The choice to go with Mike was changed from being able to shoot Mike at the last minute, so the writers likely didn't have time to change the rest of the conversation and create a better choice there.
The biggest pain for me about S2 was that they could have had all that, but they fell short. I liked a lot of the characters in S2 from what little I saw of them, (Even moreso than some S1 characters) and it what made it suck was that these characters didn't really go anywhere. Sarah, Sarita, Nick, Carver, Luke, Mike, Arvo, I could go on and on about all the ones I wanted to see more of. But so many of them were shoved out of the plot for no real reason other than shock value or the writers literally just wanted to get rid of them, and I'm still ridiculously bitter over it.
I was more excited about the 400 Days characters coming into play Nate especially. But they either didn't use them right or they fell into a plot hole.
I don't want to judge season 3 or anything, but the only way I can see season 3 not working for me is if our last choice won't have a major impact
Exactly my thoughts.
Who the hell cares about graphics. I mean they're nice an all but couldn't be more of an after thought when it comes to a Telltale Game. That's not what people mean by "fleshed out characters"
Its not really graphics but the black outlines and the detail they put into facial expressions. Yeah s2 characters might seem pretty bland but they are not THAT bland.
I don't think it will happen but I hope Telltale lets Kenny/Jane survive until the final episode. Some Carley/Doug way but during the whole season. Also, Merry Christmas everyone.
So you think S2 is on S1's level because of the faces having more detail? So slightly more detailed facial features take presidency over story, characters and choices?
Thats not what i am saying. Again, s2 story was not bad, characters were kinda bland and choices still did not matter.
The writing was bad. Extremely evident in Amid The Ruins and some scenes in No Going Back. The choices had meaning and defined how you interacted with people and your own personality. S2 didn't work on your relationships with characters
Well about the relationship thing, dont you think it would be hard to implement with you being a kid? We are not playing as Lee anymore, so i guess they didnt even bother because well you know clems 11.
If what you're saying is true then playing as Clementine takes away from the story quite a bit.
See it that way, we cant have relationships because we are still a kid and every adult doesnt take us seriously.
Its just a different pov, from adult to kid to teenager?
this. you da real MVP..
I'm one of those types of people that barely ever get disappointed by anything, so I still have pretty high hopes for Season 3 being good (at least from my perspective)
Guys, you don't even know if we're having the same writers for Season 3. We could possibly have the writer of S1E2 (Mark Darin? Darwin? Something along those lines) or even better.
Have a little faith in Telltale. S2 was still enjoyable, to me at least, and it introduced some amazing characters that you guys completely love and defend. Without Telltale, you guys wouldn't have Sarita. You wouldn't have Sarah. Clementine. Rebecca. Luke. Nick. Hell, we wouldn't even have Carver. And he was a magnificent villain.
Telltale could see their faults from the last season and change their ways. We don't need to be negative about this kind of stuff if it hasn't even been released.
Have some happiness, some joy. Be excited and hyped.
Like AJ.
i don't judge season 3 im just scare that it might be repeat what happen to season 2....