Kenny dies in first episode but Jane lives.
I was watching a video on Youtube where it talked about a code found in the game files of Season 2 about Season 3.
I'm not sure how reliable it is myself, considering the timeskip is 3 years, but I hope this doesn't happen and Kenny becomes like a Nick and Jane becomes like a Carley.
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That sounds pretty damn unfair. I hope Telltale isn't trying to placate the Kenny-haters.
If both Kenny and Jane were to meet their end in 3.1, I could roll with it, but killing off one, while allowing the other to live, is dangerous. Carley and Doug's fates were intertwined the moment they became determinant, and Telltale should take a similar balanced approach with Kenny/Jane if they don't want to alienate any of their fans.
I completely agree, both should be treated like Carley and Doug, both die at the same time and have their own impact on the game.
Is this guy being serious? He seems like he is playing up for the camera, being a little over dramatic.
I doubt there is any evidence in files in season 3 and to be honest reagrdless if they both die/live or get more or less screen time than each other I dont really care, Kenny's dead for me if people want to have Kenny in their game for longer I dont really care have him its no issue to me.
Also Kenny's been in 9 episodes , Janes been in 3. I'd rather they both mattered but if one dies a bit earlier then oh well I'd rather there would actually be choice effects
Also cant deny Carley was given way more development than Doug because more people picked her and I'm okay with that to be honest
This is a guy who just really likes Kenny and doesn't want him to be killed off while Jane gets to live.
But he is going to be killed because he is already dead in some playthroughs, as is Jane. Whatever life they have in season three won't last long anyway.
I hope they both die right away and put an end to all the Kenny v. Jane nonsense. I really want to move on from all of that.
Hes over the top about a game . Also "half the game for more of the price"., "gavanist"
Also it reeks of people who cant stand something not going there way.
"Playing up for the camera?" That's just how a guy who's pissed off normally talks. THIS is playing up for the camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SWMAQYQf0
I agree.
Kenny have had his time and needs to make a departure from the series permanently, as he'll only continue to either steal the spotlight from other characters that need more development or incite more needless drama that causes more problems for everyone involved. What's more to do with Kenny at this point that hasn't already been done with Lee and Clementine?
As for Jane, she failed to make a positive impact on the story. Her relationship with Clementine feels forced. Her actions are blatantly hypocritical and contradictory, yet she's seen as the ultimate loner/survivor archetype. Her pragmatic ideals are forced down our throats, and just like Kenny she steals the spotlight from the more likable characters.
I'm hoping that Season 3 will drop both Kenny and Jane and start focusing on other characters.
I can see that there will be lots of fake "leaked" files for season 3 again and it's very easy to make a fake hex codes, just for a example put this code into this website and convert it from hex to text http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/hexadecimal/
They hadn't even started any writing concepts when they finished season 2 so there would be no development data in the files and they wouldn't skip the game 3 years due to the restrictions to the comics timeline so the person who sent him the code is talking nonsense.
Can you really call it "dangerous"? Telltale alienated a lot of us with "Amid the Ruins" and a lot of season 2 in general, and no doubt by the grace of God, nobody tracked down the staff's loved ones and held them hostage while demanding a rewrite. I know, right? I'm surprised too. My point is, somehow, I'm sure the fandom and season 3 as a whole would survive this injustice.
And to be honest, Carley and Doug dying at the same exact time and place was always pretty ridiculous, just in a less obvious way than other ridiculous moments. And even though they died in the same place, the treatment of both characters isn't exactly equal. Still, I get your point that a balanced approach is ultimately the best way to appease both sides, even though I'd argue Kenny's season 2 ending already kind of functions as an appeasing of Kenny fans while Jane's is more fraught with unsureness and potential for disaster. Then again, some chose to leave with Kenny back into the dangerous, unforgiving wilderness with the baby still on them, so maybe the potentials for disaster don't matter all that much.
Yes i've always thought Carley should have died there and doug later on perhaps as late as episode 4., Lilly straight up tries to rationality murder ben in the doug version with no provocation. Thats not rash snap anger like in the carley version that actually for me makes sense. Still that was what happened.
I accuse TTG of instead of KILLING Lee off, they are hiding him on a underground Moon Base Facility. LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's exactly why I was kind of skeptical when I originally saw this, the fact that they did advance 3 years when they can only do 2.
Good riddance, Kenny was a monster that had to be put down. The only sad thing is that there was a choice to help Kenny murder an innocent and take away Clementine's last shred of humanity.
Besides, Kenny was in S1. Jane wasn't, so Jane deserves a bigger spotlight in S3 to make up for the irrational Kenny fans that refused to accept Kenny's insanity and agreed to murder.
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Innocent? Jane purposely put a baby's life in danger to prove a point, that's crazier than anything Kenny ever did. Jane doesn't care for Clem, all she cares about is herself, she sees Clem as a replacement for Jamie, Kenny actually looks at Clem as family and genuinely cares for her.
Kenny and Jane aren't equal.
Kenny had 2 seasons, Jane had 1. That needs to be even'd out.
Kenny is insane and is ticking time bomb. No group can stand him for long.
Jane actually THINKS and she doesn't believe in killing innocents to make herself feel better like Kenny does.
Kenny HAS no plan if you go with him, Jane does have a plan and unlike Kenny who babies Clem all the time Jane is training Clem to survive for the day she wont be there to protect her.
Only greedy Kenny fans would make it a disaster. They had 2 seasons with Kenny, we've had AT MOST 1/2 season for Jane.
What are you talking about Kenny didn't have a plan, it was his plan to go to Wellington, he was the one that had a plan for when the Motor Inn fell. I don't care that one was introduced before the other, it doesn't give them the right to kill one off early and let the other one live. People do like Kenny and want him to live for a considerable amount of time, which is why they chose to keep him alive. Kenny doesn't baby Clem, like Lee, he protects her and just wants her to be safe. And besides, all those lessons Jane taught her, Clem already knew. The searching the pockets, going for the knees, she already did in previous episodes.
Sigh. I would agree with trying to balance things out but there is an option of becoming alone and with the baby. I don't necessarily think the person that lived in season's end must die in season 3. The person's status can either be unknown or Clem and AJ could leave him/her. These guys need to relax.
It's arguable just how well Bioware managed to survive the MASS EFFECT 3 fiasco, Captain Sarcasm.
Kenny had a plan that wasn't even that well thought through. He planned to go find Wellington a place he didn't even knew existed let alone had an exact location of where it was just "up near Michigan" as his only clue. Thats more of an idea than it's a plan.
Gullible, thy name is Dekon.
But he even says that he knows Wellington might be bullshit, but he knows that other people as well are heading up there anyway because word was spreading. So you have this migration of survivors moving up North, eventually they would find others and, even if Wellington didn't exist, who's to say that they couldn't just join another group that was up there looking for Wellington and form their own community.
Like I said, I was skeptical myself when I saw this, I even said that in the main part of it since it says Clem is 14 and AJ is 3, which is impossible due to the comics.
You target Jane for seeing Clem as a replacement where the same could be said for Kenny seeing her as a replacement for Duck, he even called her Duck once. Jane does care about Clemintine if she didn't she wouldn't have came back to the group, she wouldn't risk her life to run across an icy lake to save her and she wouldn't have put up a dilema with the baby to get her away from Kenny if she didn't care. You could also add to your comment that Kenny blames you for Saritas death even if you did nothing to her, abandoned you in a herd, and while you were freezing to the death he decides it's best to beat up a crippled kid. I'm sorry but the whole baby thing was no where near crazier than the petty things Kenny has done.
That just proves it's still a terrible plan. What are the odds of actually finding a so called place like wellington if you don't even know if its real let alone have a location. And theres a good chance you'll find dangerous groups like the Russian crew since a bunch of other people are headed in that direction.
Apparently pretty high since they found it. I'm sure there were signs up that they found which directed them to the place.
Kenny never even knew if there would be any signs or information. Just because they found the place doesn't mean it wasn't a dumb plan. If the whole group were to follow him there they wouldve just been turned away. Further proving it's more of an idea than a plan.
I agree that Kenny can also use Clem at times, but it is far less than Jane. The way Kenny looks after Clementine feels more natural, this is a girl he has known from the beginning and tried to help get back from the crazed person who took her, now that he has found her again, seeing that Lee is gone, he becomes a more fatherly figure to her like Lee was and will do his best to protect her. Meanwhile, Jane's feels more forced and crammed down our throats. Kenny put his life on the line when he tried to help Ben or Christa back in Season 1 and when he took the blame for the radio at Carver's camp, he even gives himself up if Carver holds her at gunpoint. And Kenny apologizes for how he acted (twice depending on how you talked to him in the tent) about the Sarita situation and acknowledges how he knew that she was trying to do what was right. And that crippled kid is the reason Luke (and determinant Bonnie) are dead, and I was cheering him on as he was doing it. Kenny cares about AJ and Clementine more than anything else in the world, and will do anything to protect them, Jane has proven that she would abandon anyone, even her own sister, to save her own skin. I don't trust her, if put in a similar situation, to put her life on the line to help Clem, Kenny I do.
Expect A LOT of people doing nothing but comparing screen time and dialogue between Kenny and Jane when S3 comes out. It's gonna get bad i'm sure, but I think Telltale wants this y'know so people will continue to talk about their game for a long time. As much shit S2 gets from people it's still being talked about thanks to all the controversies in the game, which is great for an indie company.
If you're going to criticize him over his plan being based on pure speculation, then do the same for Jane. She wanted to go back to Howe's, but she had no idea if people were still there, she had no idea if there was still formula or any food, she didn't know if the walkers were gone or not. All those things Jane said, was simply speculation. With Wellington, since numerous people, including Christa, had heard of this place as well, it makes more sense to believe that such a place does actually exist.
They still found it. I'm sure Mike, Luke, Bonnie, along with Kenny would all want AJ and Clementine to go into Wellington.
Dumb plans with good results work out.
Can you really count 400 Days, it's a DLC and it was like a 5 second cameo.
Actually Kenny has been in 10 episodes.
I wish Jane had been in Season 2 more. It might have changed my decision.
The "helping her get back from a crazed person" is determinant and he can choose to not go just because you disagreed with him just shows how petty he can really be. You can say the same thing about Kenny being crammed down our throats since the two of them only knew each other for 3 months and there are barely any hints in season 1 that shows them having a close relationship. Also you really have problems if you agree with nearly beating a kid to death because he mysteriously made ice crack around Luke, that was either your fault or Bonnies fault. Your points such as Kenny feeling more natural and how he's such an angel are so plainly one-sided. Ontop of that Jane's sister tried to kill herself by standing still, there was litterally nothing she could of done other than stay put as well and be eaten. Also when has Jane "used" clem because I can remember times Kenny used us such as getting a radio and sneaking around Howes with the radio but I don't remember being used by Jane.
And what about the rest of them? What so clem and AJ get a place to stay but now the rest of the group got dragged into a snowy wilderness with a bag of food that won't last as long because there's several of them?
Thats still a terrible plan.
Arvo is the reason the group fell apart. He attacked us, even if we didn't steal from him, and tried to get us all killed, which lead to the death of his own group. I wanted him dead right then and there, we almost died because of him, but Luke, Mike, and Bonnie decided to protect him for some reason. And from that point, Arvo played this whole innocent victim card that caused the gullible Mike and Bonnie to side with him, the same kid that tried to get them all killed a couple days earlier. Then he says the ice was strong enough to walk across, which it wasn't, and then he decides to run, which leads to Luke's death. Mike, being the idiot that he is, feels bad for him, thinking Kenny (who was in the right) was being too harsh on him when everything was his fault. Arvo, seeing this, manipulates him and convinces him to steal all of the group's supplies and run off. Kenny knew that he was up to something, that's why he wanted to take care of Arvo right then and there. And don't give me that one sided crap, I know Kenny isn't perfect, I've disagreed with him plenty of times, but in the end, he's turned out to be right about most things, and he puts the lives of the people he cares about before his own, which is why I respect him. And besides, before her little stunt in No Going Back, I liked Jane, I thought she was an interesting character, and that next to last decision remains the hardest choice I've ever had to make in the game because I came close to killing Kenny. I'm not biased towards Kenny, I look at it from a character perspective, and Kenny is one of the best characters (in terms of development) in the game.