Kenny dies in first episode but Jane lives.

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  • His ending literally has you walking into the sunset and hoping Kenny doesn't RAGE OUT again.

    Kenny destroyed the group and would kill an innocent, Jane, if you let him.

    What are you talking about Kenny didn't have a plan, it was his plan to go to Wellington, he was the one that had a plan for when the Motor

  • Jane is far from innocent. She provoked an attack so that she could kill Kenny with a clean conscience and in doing so manipulates Clementine into helping her win a fight that she couldn't win on her own- a fight that she instigated;
    she told Clem after she kills Vitali that it felt wrong because she never killed someone who didn't cross her in some way. But I don't see how Jane thought she could win a fight with Kenny. That was utter stupidity on her part

    Sardorim posted: »

    Good riddance, Kenny was a monster that had to be put down. The only sad thing is that there was a choice to help Kenny murder an innocent a

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    You're really rude and aggressive towards Kenny fans.

    Mind calming down there friend?

    Sardorim posted: »

    Because they're greedy and will pretend Kenny wasn't all over the place in S1 and S2 (After his death was retconned).

  • Baby was safe, Kenny started that fight and refused to hear Jane out. He WRONGLY assumed she murdered the child, without even looking for any evidence, and tried to commit murder unless you stop him.

    Kenny knows he's a danger to Clem and the Baby, it's why he wants you to kill him to save Jane or to stop him from killing innocents again,

    Innocent? Jane purposely put a baby's life in danger to prove a point, that's crazier than anything Kenny ever did. Jane doesn't care for Cl

  • He won't rage out, I know that. Kenny cares about Clem and AJ more than anything else in the world, everything he does is to ensure their protection, which is why he was so determined to get to Wellington and begged Edith to let them in. Kenny is a family man, he cares about his family more than anything, and he does look at Clem and AJ as his own family, he loves his family more than himself. Clem and AJ are what holds him together, which is why he won't lose his cool around them. And besides, it was the others who caused him to get angry. The guy that does the gaming sins said it best, "Despite Kenny's flaws and failures, there was a good man deep within him, we just never got the chance to see it. Too many people causing outside distractions. Too much dead weight holding back his true potential." When others don't get in the way, Kenny is a good man, who risks his own life for the sake of others. Jane, she won't hesitate to leave you to die if it meant saving herself, she's not innocent.

    Sardorim posted: »

    His ending literally has you walking into the sunset and hoping Kenny doesn't RAGE OUT again. Kenny destroyed the group and would kill an innocent, Jane, if you let him.

  • Because they're greedy and will pretend Kenny wasn't all over the place in S1 and S2 (After his death was retconned).

    DoubleJump posted: »

    Expect A LOT of people doing nothing but comparing screen time and dialogue between Kenny and Jane when S3 comes out. It's gonna get bad i'm

  • Kenny does apologize to Clem for treating her poorly regarding Sarita.
    I was down for killing Arvo after the fight. I felt like we shouldn't take him with us and we can't leave him behind. (Where's Roman when u need him?)

    Jaesong1 posted: »

    You target Jane for seeing Clem as a replacement where the same could be said for Kenny seeing her as a replacement for Duck, he even called

  • please dont turn this into a JvsK thread, we dont, DONT need that war again

    Sardorim posted: »

    Good riddance, Kenny was a monster that had to be put down. The only sad thing is that there was a choice to help Kenny murder an innocent a

  • edited February 2015

    Riiiight.

    Like he didn't rage out all the time in S1 and S2? Oh wait, he did. Please, Kenny snapped at Clem multiple times in S2 and REFUSED to listen to her when he was intent on murdering an innocent - Jane.

    Had Kenny not have Rage Outs than no one would have had to die and Kenny knows it.

    He won't rage out, I know that. Kenny cares about Clem and AJ more than anything else in the world, everything he does is to ensure their pr

  • edited February 2015

    Im not even sure if there is a point in replying to you. You're acting way to up Kenny's ass to even see that he isn't in the right in situations like Arvo attacking us. In russian subs he tries to calms his group down showing he doesn't wan't a fight and to prevent any deaths, which shows his group is the one that wants to attack you because you tried to rob him and left him defensless. He would of had to walked over that ice lake sevral times so he would know wether or not it would be safe, he ran because he saw it as an attempt to run away, Luke walking on thin ice isn't Arvos fault unless he had phsycic powers which let him melt ice. You definetly are biased towards Kenny if you think he was right to beat the shit into a cripple for something like Lukes death sorry to mention it.

    Arvo is the reason the group fell apart. He attacked us, even if we didn't steal from him, and tried to get us all killed, which lead to the

  • Anyone who knew Jane knows that it is in her own character to risk the life of the baby to save herself. We didn't know the baby was safe, but instead, she purposely hid it so she herself could kill Kenny. And when that didn't work, it pushed Clem into the position to kill him. Who hides a baby just to prove a point, no sane person would EVER do that. You say he would commit murder, but Jane was the one that antagonized him and would have killed him had Kenny didn't get the upper hand. And besides, the original plan the writers had was to have Jane on top and Kenny be the victim. Would you be saying the same thing then, that Jane was about to kill a man unless you stop him.

    Sardorim posted: »

    Baby was safe, Kenny started that fight and refused to hear Jane out. He WRONGLY assumed she murdered the child, without even looking for an

  • No, Kenny broke the group. Arvo was just the excuse, the team was scared of Kenny LONG before Arvo showed up.

    Arvo is the reason the group fell apart. He attacked us, even if we didn't steal from him, and tried to get us all killed, which lead to the

  • You're really rude and aggressive towards Kenny fans.

    Mind calming down there friend?

    Sardorim posted: »

    Because they're greedy and will pretend Kenny wasn't all over the place in S1 and S2 (After his death was retconned).

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    No, Kenny provoked the fight. Jane tried to end it peacefully MULTIPLE times, Kenny wouldn't listen as he's an animal/monster at that point.

    All Jane wanted was to show Clem that Kenny was too far gone, and he was, and even without evidence he would kill if you didn't do EXACTLY what he wanted or failed his skewered expectations. Jane didn't intended for a deathmatch or for Kenny to be so far gone that he ignores Clem.

    Aerie88 posted: »

    Jane is far from innocent. She provoked an attack so that she could kill Kenny with a clean conscience and in doing so manipulates Clementin

  • How did Kenny provoke it. Jane was the one that did it, she hid the baby because she knew it would make him mad. Jane didn't try to end it peacefully, she could have said that the baby was fine, but she didn't, she knew that Kenny would get pissed and purposely led him into a fight so she could kill him. And in his endings, it's proven that's he's not too far gone, he still is the good old Kenny who puts the people he cares about above his own and puts his life on the line for others.

    Sardorim posted: »

    No, Kenny provoked the fight. Jane tried to end it peacefully MULTIPLE times, Kenny wouldn't listen as he's an animal/monster at that point.

  • Right, because Kenny's dead. Good thing most put him down like the monster he had become.

    colgato posted: »

    please dont turn this into a JvsK thread, we dont, DONT need that war again

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    Clearly no one knew Jane as she didn't endanger the baby and she made it clear she was there for Clem not because she needed the group's protection.

    Jane did what she had to so as to save Clem from Kenny who was a proven psychopath and had literally destroyed the group a few moments earlier. Heck, Kenny was threatening Jane in the car when she was trying one last time to make small talk.

    Anyone who knew Jane knows that it is in her own character to risk the life of the baby to save herself. We didn't know the baby was safe, b

  • Jane was the reason why Arvo 'attacked', she did rob him at gunpoint and take his own gun and potential had Clementine steal his sister's medicine. Not to mention that there's no proof that Arvo was the one who planned his group to attack, for all we know he didn't want to risk any more trouble but his own group forced him to scout the group that robbed him., and then act as the interpreter against his wishes.

    There's no evidence that Arvo acted all innocent and planned the downfall of Clementine's group by manipulating everyone, that was all Kenny fault that caused the group to tear apart. Because he refuses to control his violent impulses, tortured their prisoner, and threatened to drag the entire group to a place no-one knows exist that may have gotten more people killed along the way, Bonnie and Mike defected out of fear of their own lives. They sympathised with Arvo because of Kenny's unnecessary cruelty towards a crippled and unarmed man who had already lost his own group due to their mistakes, and was scared that Kenny could also do the same to Bonnie and Mike.

    Arvo is the reason the group fell apart. He attacked us, even if we didn't steal from him, and tried to get us all killed, which lead to the

  • holy christ you really are egging it on to people

    Sardorim posted: »

    Right, because Kenny's dead. Good thing most put him down like the monster he had become.

  • But it was still Arvo that led his group to attack us out of revenge for Clem stealing the supplies and Jane holding him at gunpoint. Had he not come along, the group wouldn't have fallen apart in the first place. And for the last time, I'm not biased towards Kenny, it could have been Luke or Jane acting like assholes to Arvo and I would have agreed with it. Kenny can be a dick at times, I know that, but he has a good heart and looks out for Clem more than anyone else (besides Lee).

    Jaesong1 posted: »

    Im not even sure if there is a point in replying to you. You're acting way to up Kenny's ass to even see that he isn't in the right in situa

  • A few months earlier? The time between meeting Kenny again and the fight with him and Jane is probably about a week at most. Frankly, both of them were acting like children. Kenny didn't have to tell her to get her feet off the dash, but Jane pushed it and brought up Sarita and his family, that's a low blow. She knew that bringing those people up would further anger Kenny, but she didn't care, she did it anyway. She wasn't making small talk at all, in fact she's technically the reason why that whole fight started in the car when she did her eye-spy game. That's when the insults started flying and both of them became immature brats.

    Sardorim posted: »

    Clearly no one knew Jane as she didn't endanger the baby and she made it clear she was there for Clem not because she needed the group's pro

  • I doubt a three years time skip is even possible, Robert Kirkman probably won't let them go further than 4 years into the apocalypse. So one or two years time skip seem more likely, IDK about anything else.

  • Kenny lets his emotions get in the way, I get that, but he always apologizes for it, like with Sarita. And again, Jane isn't innocent, she started the fight, she hid the baby, endangering it's life, purposely antagonized him, didn't try to stop it, and tried to kill him. And when she realized she couldn't, she has Clem do it for her, who she told to stay out of it. Jane is the monster here, Kenny would never do something like that to prove a point.

    Sardorim posted: »

    Riiiight. Like he didn't rage out all the time in S1 and S2? Oh wait, he did. Please, Kenny snapped at Clem multiple times in S2 and REFU

  • That's why I said I didn't really believe it, to do that would be going way past the comic book storyline and Kirkman would never allow such a thing.

    I doubt a three years time skip is even possible, Robert Kirkman probably won't let them go further than 4 years into the apocalypse. So one or two years time skip seem more likely, IDK about anything else.

  • I dont see why this is turning into a Kenny/jane debate this is a discussion about a guy who cant handle the thought of the game doing something he doesnt like

  • He apologises, but that's all he does. He doesn't change his ways or learn to control his anger, he continues to act belligerent to his friends, which makes his apologies empty words in the end. He may have been right all along to take Clementine and AJ to Wellington, but suppose if they place didn't exist, he would have doomed Clementine and AJ in a barren field of nothing because he risked their lives for a so-called save haven.

    Had he controlled his anger and not tried to kill Jane for a crime she technically didn't commit, her plan would have fallen apart and would have be wrong about Kenny all along. She attacks only in self defence, and would have no reason to attack Kenny who would not have fought back had he learned to control himself. In the end, Jane ended up proving her point right about Kenny, that he's too dangerous and unstable to have around when facing dramatic or tragic experiences.

    Kenny lets his emotions get in the way, I get that, but he always apologizes for it, like with Sarita. And again, Jane isn't innocent, she s

  • Case closed. And thanks for starting up Kenny vs. Jane again guys, we really needed that.

    OzzyUK posted: »

    I can see that there will be lots of fake "leaked" files for season 3 again and it's very easy to make a fake hex codes, just for a example

  • Yeah, my bad on that, sorry. It was not my intention but it just got a little out of hand.

    Lahkesis posted: »

    Case closed. And thanks for starting up Kenny vs. Jane again guys, we really needed that.

  • I would blame Sardorim for that actually, I don't think you did anything wrong.

    Yeah, my bad on that, sorry. It was not my intention but it just got a little out of hand.

  • Yeah but I extended it, I can't completely exonerate myself from this whole predicament, I had a hand in it's progression so I am to blame as well.

    I would blame Sardorim for that actually, I don't think you did anything wrong.

  • Fair enough on that, hopefully this stops soon.

    Yeah but I extended it, I can't completely exonerate myself from this whole predicament, I had a hand in it's progression so I am to blame as well.

  • Alright then, I think when a lot of these KVJ things start people aren't in great moods.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    I'm to blame as well. Wasn't in the best of moods.

  • I expect to see this thread turn into a Kenny vs Jane war. Which sucks, I know Metallica didn't mean for this to happen.

  • I'm to blame as well. Wasn't in the best of moods.

    Fair enough on that, hopefully this stops soon.

  • Oh, another fight? Every time this happens, it just proves my statement that I said from before. Do you guys want a baby bottle or something? If not then

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    Seriously, we've seen this kind of thing hundreds of times already. Don't you guys ever know when to quit?

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    I don't know, I just get the feeling all the endings will reconnect to one path in Season 3 where Clementine's alone with the baby. Like the alone ending is what they will all amount to, that or Clementine will always end up at Wellington with A.J and nobody else, regardless of whether you went off with Kenny, stayed at Howe's with Jane or have Clem out there wandering alone. The events might just all reconnect to Wellington and we might not even see those events play out if Clem's not the main protagonist anymore.

    So at this point I'm doubting Kenny and Jane will even appear in Season 3, and it'll just be Clem and A.J. So basically something might happen to Kenny in those weeks Clem refused to stay at Wellington and comes back later on alone. Regardless if you let the family in or tell them to go, they still come back and cause trouble at the result of Jane's demise. Meanwhile you have the alone ending, where Clem's just walking around out there, and will probably just find her own way to Wellington in her own time. That's how I view the endings at this point, and why I don't have much hope for Kenny and Jane.

    But to give one more screen time than the other, it would just seem unfair...plus I'm still bitter about Luke XD so any extra time with Jane, even if it's good, I'll still be thinking "I miss that farm boy, Mary Jane whhhhy!?" But seriously I hope it's fake, because it wouldn't be fair, and it probably is because Season 3 is still in the planning phase at the moment. I doubt they've even gotten that far to be leaving codes like that.

    Also there's only so far they can go in the comic universe and TWDG seems like one of those titles that might still go on for a bit more yet, so putting Clem and A.J so close to that borderline just to age them up that far would be risky. If anything at a guess I'd figure Season 3 might follow not long after Season 2, the longest on that being a year to space more seasons out. Unless Season 3 is the very last one, then everybody's doomed regardless, doooooomed!

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    i'm no expert on looking for spoilers in the game files in fact i have never tried it but i am 90% sure telltale don't leave season 3 stuff in season 2 it does not make any sense the only spoilers that would be in there are the ones from season 2 (which is how people found out about kenny etc) i highly doubt this is real plus they are barely in the early stages of writing season 3 and the timeskip goes against the comics so yea

  • Expect it to happen, it already did.

    bloop posted: »

    I expect to see this thread turn into a Kenny vs Jane war. Which sucks, I know Metallica didn't mean for this to happen.

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    I don't think this is true. If there's a 3 year time skip wouldn't that put the game ahead of the comics?

  • It's alright, I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully things get better.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    I'm to blame as well. Wasn't in the best of moods.

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