I think the charm from Larry's ass was way too much for some to handle, their immunity levels were so low they couldn't take the charm, hence turning into walkers. IT'S ALL IN THE AIR.
Exactly.. If we use the religious explaination "When there's no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the earth" that a pretty easy way to explain how it all happened.
It would take a very advance virus/organism to kickstart the brain after death and keep that area alive. But then with fiction that's easy to create.. Wasn't it the origional Romero senerio of a comet passing my earth and the tail debris rained down causing the zombies? Now we're talking out space.. Just say it's something we don't understand to avoid trying to prove how it could happen.
True. Then again though, some people might argue that perhaps this virus/organism manages to keep the brain alive by providing it with what … moreit needs- oxygen, etc; this means that the brain doesn't need the rest of the body to survive. Personally I think that's quite a far fetched argument, though it would make sense.
If it's down to supernatural sources, then that'd explain a lot. Like God repeating the flood, except using another method. But, though I am religious, I'd call that a pretty poor explanation as the series and genre itself has very little to do with spirituality and just throwing spirituality in there at the end to explain the disease would be pretty poor writing.
If I'm honest, I dislike the way the whole zombie survival genre has become so serious. Of course I don't want it to be stupid, but now everything has to make sense- all of a sudden the outbreak has to have a credible cause and scenarios like Romero's are dismissed as stupid or unrealistic. A genre can be ruined if it takes itself too seriously- there has to be some creativity as well as logic.
Exactly.. If we use the religious explaination "When there's no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the earth" that a pretty easy way to e… morexplain how it all happened.
It would take a very advance virus/organism to kickstart the brain after death and keep that area alive. But then with fiction that's easy to create.. Wasn't it the origional Romero senerio of a comet passing my earth and the tail debris rained down causing the zombies? Now we're talking out space.. Just say it's something we don't understand to avoid trying to prove how it could happen.
I think the charm from Larry's ass was way too much for some to handle, their immunity levels were so low they couldn't take the charm, hence turning into walkers. IT'S ALL IN THE AIR.
That is actually a scenario often suggested. A plausible explanation could be that the survivors (eg; Lee, Clementine, etc.) are all under the influence of some scientifically developed narcotic and are being tested on- the whole survival scenario is in their minds and their actually just in a laboratory somewhere being tested on. I even heard a suggestion somewhere (it might have been on this forum or elsewhere) that the drug that's being tested on them is being developed for the military, so that soldiers only see the enemy as Walkers and will kill them without any moral objection (though I highly doubt this theory and do not endorse it).
yes, that is true, but .the more realistic a story is the more scary it is b/c the more likely it is that it could happen to you. Romero has the disease come from a comet, right? well, in TWD no one knows what caused it...the comet theory could explain why the entire human population in infected...the asteroid contaminated the planet's atmosphere and, thus, our water supply.
True.
If I'm honest, I dislike the way the whole zombie survival genre has become so serious. Of course I don't want it to be stupid, but… more now everything has to make sense- all of a sudden the outbreak has to have a credible cause and scenarios like Romero's are dismissed as stupid or unrealistic. A genre can be ruined if it takes itself too seriously- there has to be some creativity as well as logic.
That is actually a scenario often suggested. A plausible explanation could be that the survivors (eg; Lee, Clementine, etc.) are all under t… morehe influence of some scientifically developed narcotic and are being tested on- the whole survival scenario is in their minds and their actually just in a laboratory somewhere being tested on. I even heard a suggestion somewhere (it might have been on this forum or elsewhere) that the drug that's being tested on them is being developed for the military, so that soldiers only see the enemy as Walkers and will kill them without any moral objection (though I highly doubt this theory and do not endorse it).
I have heard that Kirkman plans to see the comic through through around 300 issues. Meaning it could last for another 20 years or so (he's only in his mid 30's now so he could be planning on ending it around the time he plans on retiring). I wonder if he has even thought of a way that the virus/diesease can be cured?
My personal feelings are is that there won't be an official cure and the way mankind cures it is simply by learning how to live with it and building civilization up over again with a new set of rules. Somebody rising again after they die will just become the new normal and people will just have to stab them in the head after they die.
I think the final few issues of the comic will take place hundreds of years in the future and we find out how mankind is dealing with it.
That is actually a scenario often suggested. A plausible explanation could be that the survivors (eg; Lee, Clementine, etc.) are all under t… morehe influence of some scientifically developed narcotic and are being tested on- the whole survival scenario is in their minds and their actually just in a laboratory somewhere being tested on. I even heard a suggestion somewhere (it might have been on this forum or elsewhere) that the drug that's being tested on them is being developed for the military, so that soldiers only see the enemy as Walkers and will kill them without any moral objection (though I highly doubt this theory and do not endorse it).
What if it's like COD: zombies. Where the zombies never actually go away. You kill one, but it goes back to the Ether only to re-spawn somewhere else, making it a never ending zombie nightmare. It would make sense since we see the same damn walkers over and over again lol.
True, Telltale do need to add variety to the zombie models XD
Thing is, America is home to 318'900'000 people (as of 2014, thank you Google), so it's no surprise that there are so many zombies around, but I get what your talking about.
What if it's like COD: zombies. Where the zombies never actually go away. You kill one, but it goes back to the Ether only to re-spawn somew… morehere else, making it a never ending zombie nightmare. It would make sense since we see the same damn walkers over and over again lol.
I think it's more akin to an irreversible mutation. The infected ones would still have the basic desire of most creatures: nourishment. The mutation coul also screw up the brain as well.
If the theory makes sense then that does make the whole scenario realistic and scarier, true. But what I'm talking about is the way that, even if it does have a plausible explanation, people still would be sceptical about the disease. It has to be a disease, and it can't be anything even slightly supernatural. And as for the disease coming from Space, even if it is a solid theory people are still sceptical. I'd prefer an explanation to the disease that might be far fetched to just offering no explanation at all, if you get what I mean.
Also, I hate to be picky but if an asteroid hit the earth I'm pretty sure the heat of the impact would evaporate a largest amount of the earths water. And what I've just said here is a perfect example of people not being open minded XD
yes, that is true, but .the more realistic a story is the more scary it is b/c the more likely it is that it could happen to you. Romero has… more the disease come from a comet, right? well, in TWD no one knows what caused it...the comet theory could explain why the entire human population in infected...the asteroid contaminated the planet's atmosphere and, thus, our water supply.
They are the dead reanimated most of the brain has shut down only the primal functions remain like eating, old school zombies were also sometimes horny bastards.
They move that way because once they die they begin to go into rrigormortis. They cant heal because they're dead so they get more and more shuffly.
Damaging the brain or removing the head means stopping the information reaching other parts of the body since your brain controlls it.
As far is I know in twd everyone is already infected and no matter how you die you will turn.
A human bite is very dangerous in the real worldd even if that person is healthy a human bite can kill if left untreated and they uses to be deemed poisonous so imagine being bitten by a gangrenous person whoa been dead for god knows how long and is covered in rot and shit (zombies love intestines)
Edit: zombies dobt have an agenda your getting disease confused with parasite zombies dont actively infect others thats just what happens.
Nobody's immune
They are the dead reanimated most of the brain has shut down only the primal functions remain like eating, old school zom… morebies were also sometimes horny bastards.
They move that way because once they die they begin to go into rrigormortis. They cant heal because they're dead so they get more and more shuffly.
Damaging the brain or removing the head means stopping the information reaching other parts of the body since your brain controlls it.
As far is I know in twd everyone is already infected and no matter how you die you will turn.
A human bite is very dangerous in the real worldd even if that person is healthy a human bite can kill if left untreated and they uses to be deemed poisonous so imagine being bitten by a gangrenous person whoa been dead for god knows how long and is covered in rot and shit (zombies love intestines)
Edit: zombies dobt have an agenda your getting disease confused with parasite zombies dont actively infect others thats just what happens.
What will be interesting is how the tv show decides to end as it obviously will not go on as long as the comic. Will the tv show come up with a cure for the disease where the comic does not? Or will the tv show end simply by killing everyone off and the zombie virus continues even though the show is over?
People will get bored of zombies and it will probably just get axed without warning the zombie genre sort of goes in cycles its popular for a few years then it goes away only to be hugely popular ten years later. Maybe man made monsters will be next because we've just had a vampire revival
What will be interesting is how the tv show decides to end as it obviously will not go on as long as the comic. Will the tv show come up wit… moreh a cure for the disease where the comic does not? Or will the tv show end simply by killing everyone off and the zombie virus continues even though the show is over?
There is absolutely nothing that makes sense about the pathogen in the Walking Dead universe. Kirkman just said "it happens this way," so trying to make sense of the absolute senseless is either a feat of extreme brilliance or a feat of extreme stupidity.
Im just talking about zombification. I thought it was already said by the walking dead guys that people aren't immune im not 100% sure though. ive been into zombies for so long its hard to keep up with each franchises definition, but I think the main thing that makes zombies scary is that there is no cure and nobody's safe.
The biting would suggest that the disease is not air born and can only be transmitted through blood- but then how is everyone infected? How did everyone else fall ill without getting bitten, and some need to get bitten to get turned?
Biting only kills the person, it doesn't cause the actual reanimation. The average (living) human mouth contains a crapton of bacteria and microbes by itself, not to mention after walker's decomposition and lack of hygiene. The mouth would be one of the fastest parts to rot due to the wetness and soft tissue.
Im just talking about zombification. I thought it was already said by the walking dead guys that people aren't immune im not 100% sure thoug… moreh. ive been into zombies for so long its hard to keep up with each franchises definition, but I think the main thing that makes zombies scary is that there is no cure and nobody's safe.
Sorry, I should stop using the word "immune", as that implies that the survivors can't get the disease and obviously they do. What I mean by Immune is that some people turned from the beginning (for the infection to spread so quickly, they're must have been people who turned without a bite) whilst others needed a bite or death to turn them. That's what I meant by Immune, which is an incorrect use of the word so I will stop using it. Sorry if I caused some confusion
Nobody's immune
They are the dead reanimated most of the brain has shut down only the primal functions remain like eating, old school zom… morebies were also sometimes horny bastards.
They move that way because once they die they begin to go into rrigormortis. They cant heal because they're dead so they get more and more shuffly.
Damaging the brain or removing the head means stopping the information reaching other parts of the body since your brain controlls it.
As far is I know in twd everyone is already infected and no matter how you die you will turn.
A human bite is very dangerous in the real worldd even if that person is healthy a human bite can kill if left untreated and they uses to be deemed poisonous so imagine being bitten by a gangrenous person whoa been dead for god knows how long and is covered in rot and shit (zombies love intestines)
Edit: zombies dobt have an agenda your getting disease confused with parasite zombies dont actively infect others thats just what happens.
I don't people will get bored of it if I'm honest. It's less about the zombies and more about the drama, which people naturally don't get bored of. But I get what you're talking about. With the end of TWD the zombie genre might die down again, but it won't be people getting bored that stops TWD.
People will get bored of zombies and it will probably just get axed without warning the zombie genre sort of goes in cycles its popular for … morea few years then it goes away only to be hugely popular ten years later. Maybe man made monsters will be next because we've just had a vampire revival
The show will probably end by killing everyone off, which is the sort of easy way out and (for the future) it leaves the way open to make a new series if they want to.
What will be interesting is how the tv show decides to end as it obviously will not go on as long as the comic. Will the tv show come up wit… moreh a cure for the disease where the comic does not? Or will the tv show end simply by killing everyone off and the zombie virus continues even though the show is over?
There is absolutely nothing that makes sense about the pathogen in the Walking Dead universe. Kirkman just said "it happens this way," so tr… moreying to make sense of the absolute senseless is either a feat of extreme brilliance or a feat of extreme stupidity.
Good point. But having said that, if you get bit by a human (no matter the amount of bacteria) you can still survive, and antibiotics would cure it. But in TWD all you need is a little scratch and you can't be saved. The human mouth is full of bacteria, and a Walkers mouth would be even worse, but even that wouldn't be enough to kill a person. That would indicate that the virus must be in the bite in order to kill off the person, otherwise a bite could be cured.
I'd just like to make it clear that I'm talking about an average bite here, one which breaks the skin and goes a bit deep. I'm not talking about bites that take out huge chunks of people or rip people open (obviously someone would die from such bites ). The fact that a non-fatal bite or scratch can kill a person would indicate that there is more than just the common bacteria and pathogens in the bite.
The biting would suggest that the disease is not air born and can only be transmitted through blood- but then how is everyone infected? How … moredid everyone else fall ill without getting bitten, and some need to get bitten to get turned?
Biting only kills the person, it doesn't cause the actual reanimation. The average (living) human mouth contains a crapton of bacteria and microbes by itself, not to mention after walker's decomposition and lack of hygiene. The mouth would be one of the fastest parts to rot due to the wetness and soft tissue.
Yeah I think it is. Its a very different type of zombie show. Zombies it can be managed with drugs and its about the segregation of humans and zombies who are self aware. The zombies where makeup and have to do community service to apologise for there behavior during the rising in there undrugged state. The music is good and there are loads of religious references its strange compared to normal z shows and movies
About the walkers overpowering a grown-up man, I may have a little theory for that. I am not 100% sure that this is true, but just like the brain is only partially used so are our muscles, and their full potential uncovers itself in the most critical situations.
I may have read somewhere about a hiker or mountain climber who had a boulder that weighed probably up to a ton or more, nevertheless too heavy for any human probably, fall on him and thus almost crush him. As his body was failing under the weight the brain did it's "final stand" and and instructed the muscles to go full capacity, thus in a feat of superhuman strenght he simply lifted that blouder off of him and saved his life. Of course he was severely injured, but in the end, he survived.
What if the virus or whatever led to the population turning into mindless ghouls, activates this hidden strength? Sorry if this has been brought up before.
Hmm, interesting theory on the turning time. I can only guess that some people are more exposed to the virus than others and therefore turn … morequicker than others. But otherwise it's still sort of confusing how it works
Good point on the immune point, though when I said "immune" I used the wrong term. I sort of meant how some people turned and others survived.
To add to this discussion and bring some insight to this disease. In the comics, which is the same universe as Telltales, it has been established that animals are immune to this "disease". Safe to make that claim (with no spoilers) as Sam the dog bit Clem and nothing came from it except a wound. So it only seems to effect people. Also the "blood/carrion?" needs to be inside you for the infection to start killing you and since the disease is already inside you "dormant" it will then bring you back as a zombie, when you die, not during the dying.
If the theory makes sense then that does make the whole scenario realistic and scarier, true. But what I'm talking about is the way that, ev… moreen if it does have a plausible explanation, people still would be sceptical about the disease. It has to be a disease, and it can't be anything even slightly supernatural. And as for the disease coming from Space, even if it is a solid theory people are still sceptical. I'd prefer an explanation to the disease that might be far fetched to just offering no explanation at all, if you get what I mean.
Also, I hate to be picky but if an asteroid hit the earth I'm pretty sure the heat of the impact would evaporate a largest amount of the earths water. And what I've just said here is a perfect example of people not being open minded XD
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There is no disease, It's just a prank.
I think the charm from Larry's ass was way too much for some to handle, their immunity levels were so low they couldn't take the charm, hence turning into walkers. IT'S ALL IN THE AIR.
Exactly.. If we use the religious explaination "When there's no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the earth" that a pretty easy way to explain how it all happened.
It would take a very advance virus/organism to kickstart the brain after death and keep that area alive. But then with fiction that's easy to create.. Wasn't it the origional Romero senerio of a comet passing my earth and the tail debris rained down causing the zombies? Now we're talking out space.. Just say it's something we don't understand to avoid trying to prove how it could happen.
A mutated form of STD's.....
True.
If I'm honest, I dislike the way the whole zombie survival genre has become so serious. Of course I don't want it to be stupid, but now everything has to make sense- all of a sudden the outbreak has to have a credible cause and scenarios like Romero's are dismissed as stupid or unrealistic. A genre can be ruined if it takes itself too seriously- there has to be some creativity as well as logic.
:0 My God! This man is a genius, pure GENIUS!!! Of course, it's all Larry's fault!! How did I never see this!?!
That is actually a scenario often suggested. A plausible explanation could be that the survivors (eg; Lee, Clementine, etc.) are all under the influence of some scientifically developed narcotic and are being tested on- the whole survival scenario is in their minds and their actually just in a laboratory somewhere being tested on. I even heard a suggestion somewhere (it might have been on this forum or elsewhere) that the drug that's being tested on them is being developed for the military, so that soldiers only see the enemy as Walkers and will kill them without any moral objection (though I highly doubt this theory and do not endorse it).
yes, that is true, but .the more realistic a story is the more scary it is b/c the more likely it is that it could happen to you. Romero has the disease come from a comet, right? well, in TWD no one knows what caused it...the comet theory could explain why the entire human population in infected...the asteroid contaminated the planet's atmosphere and, thus, our water supply.
the good ole Brain in a Vat/Experience machine scenario
Eh hem. My Theory is That this Information, Is Classified.
I have heard that Kirkman plans to see the comic through through around 300 issues. Meaning it could last for another 20 years or so (he's only in his mid 30's now so he could be planning on ending it around the time he plans on retiring). I wonder if he has even thought of a way that the virus/diesease can be cured?
My personal feelings are is that there won't be an official cure and the way mankind cures it is simply by learning how to live with it and building civilization up over again with a new set of rules. Somebody rising again after they die will just become the new normal and people will just have to stab them in the head after they die.
I think the final few issues of the comic will take place hundreds of years in the future and we find out how mankind is dealing with it.
Those types of theories come about in almost every survival type story. That was a running theory the whole time Lost was on.
What if it's like COD: zombies. Where the zombies never actually go away. You kill one, but it goes back to the Ether only to re-spawn somewhere else, making it a never ending zombie nightmare. It would make sense since we see the same damn walkers over and over again lol.
True, Telltale do need to add variety to the zombie models XD
Thing is, America is home to 318'900'000 people (as of 2014, thank you Google), so it's no surprise that there are so many zombies around, but I get what your talking about.
I think it's more akin to an irreversible mutation. The infected ones would still have the basic desire of most creatures: nourishment. The mutation coul also screw up the brain as well.
If the theory makes sense then that does make the whole scenario realistic and scarier, true. But what I'm talking about is the way that, even if it does have a plausible explanation, people still would be sceptical about the disease. It has to be a disease, and it can't be anything even slightly supernatural. And as for the disease coming from Space, even if it is a solid theory people are still sceptical. I'd prefer an explanation to the disease that might be far fetched to just offering no explanation at all, if you get what I mean.
Also, I hate to be picky but if an asteroid hit the earth I'm pretty sure the heat of the impact would evaporate a largest amount of the earths water. And what I've just said here is a perfect example of people not being open minded XD
I knew that hoe was burning... FUCK!!!
You will never guess it.
Nobody's immune
They are the dead reanimated most of the brain has shut down only the primal functions remain like eating, old school zombies were also sometimes horny bastards.
They move that way because once they die they begin to go into rrigormortis. They cant heal because they're dead so they get more and more shuffly.
Damaging the brain or removing the head means stopping the information reaching other parts of the body since your brain controlls it.
As far is I know in twd everyone is already infected and no matter how you die you will turn.
A human bite is very dangerous in the real worldd even if that person is healthy a human bite can kill if left untreated and they uses to be deemed poisonous so imagine being bitten by a gangrenous person whoa been dead for god knows how long and is covered in rot and shit (zombies love intestines)
Edit: zombies dobt have an agenda your getting disease confused with parasite zombies dont actively infect others thats just what happens.
I hope you mean "nobody's immune for everything"
and
"there's nobody that's immune for everything. at least as far as i know"
What do you mean by "for everything"
What will be interesting is how the tv show decides to end as it obviously will not go on as long as the comic. Will the tv show come up with a cure for the disease where the comic does not? Or will the tv show end simply by killing everyone off and the zombie virus continues even though the show is over?
People will get bored of zombies and it will probably just get axed without warning the zombie genre sort of goes in cycles its popular for a few years then it goes away only to be hugely popular ten years later. Maybe man made monsters will be next because we've just had a vampire revival
There is absolutely nothing that makes sense about the pathogen in the Walking Dead universe. Kirkman just said "it happens this way," so trying to make sense of the absolute senseless is either a feat of extreme brilliance or a feat of extreme stupidity.
a kind of related thingy... has anyone seen the bbc series In The Flesh? That is one wierd take on the zombie genre
I don't understand your response: "Nobody's immune"
"for everything" = every possible factor to throw at humans. you name it.
Im just talking about zombification. I thought it was already said by the walking dead guys that people aren't immune im not 100% sure though. ive been into zombies for so long its hard to keep up with each franchises definition, but I think the main thing that makes zombies scary is that there is no cure and nobody's safe.
Biting only kills the person, it doesn't cause the actual reanimation. The average (living) human mouth contains a crapton of bacteria and microbes by itself, not to mention after walker's decomposition and lack of hygiene. The mouth would be one of the fastest parts to rot due to the wetness and soft tissue.
A cure is possible, and people could be immune. But if there are any in the series or game? I don't know.
Sorry, I should stop using the word "immune", as that implies that the survivors can't get the disease and obviously they do. What I mean by Immune is that some people turned from the beginning (for the infection to spread so quickly, they're must have been people who turned without a bite) whilst others needed a bite or death to turn them. That's what I meant by Immune, which is an incorrect use of the word so I will stop using it. Sorry if I caused some confusion
I don't people will get bored of it if I'm honest. It's less about the zombies and more about the drama, which people naturally don't get bored of. But I get what you're talking about. With the end of TWD the zombie genre might die down again, but it won't be people getting bored that stops TWD.
The show will probably end by killing everyone off, which is the sort of easy way out and (for the future) it leaves the way open to make a new series if they want to.
I prefer a feat of extreme brilliance
No, but I'll have a look for it now. Is it any good, just asking?
Good point. But having said that, if you get bit by a human (no matter the amount of bacteria) you can still survive, and antibiotics would cure it. But in TWD all you need is a little scratch and you can't be saved. The human mouth is full of bacteria, and a Walkers mouth would be even worse, but even that wouldn't be enough to kill a person. That would indicate that the virus must be in the bite in order to kill off the person, otherwise a bite could be cured.
I'd just like to make it clear that I'm talking about an average bite here, one which breaks the skin and goes a bit deep. I'm not talking about bites that take out huge chunks of people or rip people open (obviously someone would die from such bites
). The fact that a non-fatal bite or scratch can kill a person would indicate that there is more than just the common bacteria and pathogens in the bite.
Yeah I think it is. Its a very different type of zombie show. Zombies it can be managed with drugs and its about the segregation of humans and zombies who are self aware. The zombies where makeup and have to do community service to apologise for there behavior during the rising in there undrugged state. The music is good and there are loads of religious references its strange compared to normal z shows and movies
About the walkers overpowering a grown-up man, I may have a little theory for that. I am not 100% sure that this is true, but just like the brain is only partially used so are our muscles, and their full potential uncovers itself in the most critical situations.
I may have read somewhere about a hiker or mountain climber who had a boulder that weighed probably up to a ton or more, nevertheless too heavy for any human probably, fall on him and thus almost crush him. As his body was failing under the weight the brain did it's "final stand" and and instructed the muscles to go full capacity, thus in a feat of superhuman strenght he simply lifted that blouder off of him and saved his life. Of course he was severely injured, but in the end, he survived.
What if the virus or whatever led to the population turning into mindless ghouls, activates this hidden strength? Sorry if this has been brought up before.
To add to this discussion and bring some insight to this disease. In the comics, which is the same universe as Telltales, it has been established that animals are immune to this "disease". Safe to make that claim (with no spoilers) as Sam the dog bit Clem and nothing came from it except a wound. So it only seems to effect people. Also the "blood/carrion?" needs to be inside you for the infection to start killing you and since the disease is already inside you "dormant" it will then bring you back as a zombie, when you die, not during the dying.
well, we live in a world where evidentialism is the paradigm so people expect an rational, empirical reason for what is going on
Load yourself up. This knows more stuff than I do, or really care to find out.