Why kill off Luke but keep that useless twat Mike?
I'm replaying Season 2 and Mike is literally the most useless character of the whole series probably more useless than Ben. Like wth was his purpose in the series besides him being in Carver's group? Why kill Luke just to keep this asshole alive?
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That goes for everyone else in the Season as well. Everyone and I mean everyone died in a flash in episode 5 but leave Arvo and Mike untouched. Why? Bias and favoritism
Season 3 (cough)
Because bad writing.
That's why.
*cough** would rather not cough
Because in the end they wanted to have Clementine left with Jane and Kenny.
Can you really believe the scenario where Luke steals a car with Arvo?
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Or the scenario where Luke either stands there and watches Jane and Kenny fight, or dies anyway from intervening.
So in the end... Nate shrug I dunno...
Plot, that's why. I wish they kept Luke alive:(
Same reason why they killed Carley and keep that whiny brat Ben,for cheap plot & conflict.
I don't see how the two things are related. Killing off Mike wouldn't have saved Luke from drowning.
Personally I liked Mike before he allied with Arvo and betrayed the group, After that I would have wanted to shoot him.
Sooo cute
Because writers.
Because we can´t have nice things.
You forgot one thing: "Jane, why did Vitali and Buriko magically switch places and weapons? Why didn't Buriko firing at us matter? And why is it that Luke, Bonnie and Kenny warped behind cover while me and Mike were left to die?
"Realism."
"How can I an undersized 11 year old kick a door down like Bigby but Lee a 37 year old grown man can't"
Realism
Mike is most useless character of the whole series? It's NOT true. He was carrying water in ep. 4, helped Kenny when asked, was hunting racoon, helped Clem get on the ladder. What Rebecca did? Alvin? Sarah? They were useless, not Mike.
"How can I keep several walkers from coming in through a door and yet Lee, and these two adults, Carley and Doug, combined couldn't do it?"
"Realism"
Ooh I got one
"Why is that in episode 2 when I went with Nick I could hold an entire group of walkers off alone where Lee, Kenny, Christ, Omid and Ben couldn't"
Realism
Rotting corpses who have been like that for 2 years are weaker than walkers who had just turned a few days ago seems like a reasonble explanaton.
These two characters are no the same. Mike has his own story just like Luke and killing off one doesn't really effect the other in story. Plus they both go away in the same episode, just one lasts a little longer than the other if that makes you feel you better. btw Mike is not useless, he pulled his fair share since he was introduced and moved the plot forward when he betrayed Clem.
I get what you mean but there is no way we can tell their age however numbers are numbers no matter what
Things would have been tenfold more interesting had they kept the old story behind Mike as I have read in another thread, the one in which he is one of the bandits if I may call them that back in episode 1. It probably would not have made him any more likeable, but at least there would have been a stronger reason for him doing what he does, or rather a bigger mistery behind it (why he actually helps Clem, maybe he feels guilty) at least in my opinion.
I agree, it would have been great to see that in Season 2, and I feel this is a result of shorter episodes, writers cannot add stories like this because it would detract too much from the main story. But if he does come back in Season 3, which does seem likely, maybe that's when they will add it. It would be such a shame to see such a great storyline thrown down the tube.
Only killing characters the fanbase wants to die would be bad writing.
This is not that.
True, in the end there is a chance seeing how in our perspective we do not get to see the hooded guy very well in the first episode, or at least I did not get to. And just because he is named differently in the files it does not mean it's impossible. I think Natasha had a different name in the actual files as far as I remember, so I keep my hopes up.
EDIT: And he would also, as I mentioned previously, make for a very interesting and likeable character. I don't personally like him all that much, but neither do I dislike him. He would be an "ex-antagonist", he sees what is wrong with his ways and tries to redeem himself, and that would make for a great morally grey character. He doesn't play that big of a role as some other characters, but he shows compassion, he even saves Clementine if you choose to try to enter that ticket booth.
Natasha's name in the files was Maud, so you are right, Ralph could easily be just a file name. And since Mike's backstory was never really revealed in Season 2, it still leaves it open to the possibility that he was the guy in the woods.
Or maybe he has two names as I do and Ralph is the other one, maybe Telltale named him Ralph in the files as a spoiler guard, which would actually be quite brilliant. We see the name Ralph and never really suspect Mike, but we do have our little doubts.
How about this:
"Jane, why is everyone dumber than me, an eleven year old??"
"Realism"
"... you do realize that I just called you an idiot, right?"
"..."
Well she is an idiot, she hid a baby to lure an already mentally unstable guy who cherished that baby like his own son and gave him a new reason to live into a fight so that she could kill him.
Because...Realism
Oh I agree, Jane is an idiot. Honestly I thought that several characters in season 2 were morons.
Carver is an idiot for not killing Kenny and Luke.
Kenny is an idiot for shooting at some mook instead of Carver, the leader, which led to Walter's death.
Luke is an idiot because he thought that it was a good idea to get out of cover in episode 5, even though they were all behind cover (somehow) and the russians would have run out of ammo eventually.
The group in episode 5 were absolute dipshits because they thought it was good idea to walk across a frozen lake.
Because No Going Back was emotional baiting to the lowest common denominator. TellTale effectively turning characters into death props and using the most popular as cheap platforms so that they could get people's emotions riled up. TellTale thought they knew what they were doing by having Luke give all kinds of expository dialogue the scene before his cheap and very unemotional death scene.
At this point, I think the writing process for his death scene went something like this.
Writer 1: "Who's a very popular character a lot of people still like?"
Writer 2: "Um well, we never developed any of them because we kept bombarding them with Kenny. A character more and more people are becoming alienated towards cause we keep making him a bigger asshole."
Writer 1: "C'mon, we need a death scene as a platform to insight cheep emotional conflict so that all the reviewers can needlessly give us praise."
Writer 2: "Ok, how about Luke? People seem to like him."
Writer 1: "Why? We never developed him at all. He's as bland as a cracker with a serving of water."
Writer 2: "I 'unno? I think little girls have a crush on him or some shit. Look, we'll use a scene and shoehorn some dialogue about his past. It's not like this game is about Clementine anyways right?"
Writer 1: "Ok cool. Should his death be extremely cheap and emotionally unsatisfying?"
Writer 2: "Oh, of course."
Writer 1: "Kid, you're gonna go places in this company."
You guys DO realize the exact same argument can be applied to Tyreese's death in the television show, right?
Shock value. No one would care if Mike died. Poor Mike.
Kenny couldn't get a clear shot at Carver and there was no way across, Luke even says that, and Arvo told them that it was safe to cross. And people walk on frozen lakes all the time, during the winter, several people in my town go ice skating on the lake.
Carver not killing anybody seems to have been a wise choice (at first) if you look at it like this. Carver wants Rebecca to have the baby right? If he starts killing people that she knows, Rebecca may end up doing something drastic to his future son, sabotaging everything he's working for.
Luke mentions he doesn't want to "wait around for these assholes till they run out of ammo".
Wasn't a river right? Not a lake. So no way to just go around.
Oh yeah I forgot, part of the canon is that the those writers huffed hella paint while listening to loud techno music...
At least they had fun making the episode, God knows nobody had fun playing it.
this is now officially my most favorite gif on the planet.
Everybody likes it on tumblr so much, the notes for it broke.