Why isnt there a camping site outside of wellington?

I mean if Wellington has to deny a lot of people and tell them to come back another day. Why dont they make like a camping site outside the walls? It would be a good idea

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  • I was like, "Kenny, you better be camping on the old side of that hill"

    Probably because the people guarding Wellington threaten them to leave.

  • they would be closer to wellington, but very exposed. maybe in the nearby woods, but right outside the walls, a tent isn't a very safe option

  • What if the campers get angry at Wellington for not letting them in, causing them to team up and team up to destroy Wellington?

  • I can see that. They saw Clem & AJ let in. This starts a feud between Wellington and the people left out. It looks like it's Clem's fault, but not really. It causes all sorts of controversy and mayhem.

    TWD_25 posted: »

    What if the campers get angry at Wellington for not letting them in, causing them to team up and team up to destroy Wellington?

  • Hopefully that is something that will be tackled in Season 3.

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    Imagine the mess when Kenny and Clem walked over that hill and just saw a bunch of homeless scrubs taking up residence in swags and tents.

    I think the guards in Wellington would probably walk out in SWAT gear and squirt them in the face with spray bottles to make them piss off. Largely because it would attract too many walkers at the outskirts.
    Don't want it to become over run.

  • edited March 2015

    Because the Wellington ending is just fodder to make an emotionally baiting scene involving a young girl who was stripped of all her interesting characteristics after Amid the Ruins and a redneck who was given way too much gratitude in the narrative toward the end of the season. It's not meant to be evaluated like Ellie's confession at the end of TLOU, it's only purpose is to get people crying using cheap ploys like Kenneth breaking every one of his character traits in order to somehow seem salvageable and redeemable without any carry-over as to why.

    Like I've said, I still hold that everyone died in the clearing at the end of Amid the Ruins and the last shitstorm of an episode was trying to pull a Spec-Ops or Jacob's Ladder (minus it being engaging) and have Clem relive her final moments through an elaborate dream sequence.

  • This literally doesn't answer any of the questions above.

    Because the Wellington ending is just fodder to make an emotionally baiting scene involving a young girl who was stripped of all her interes

  • Because camping in games isn't fair.

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  • This would be great. I can definitely see a story in Wellington that involves the survivors they turned away.

    TWD_25 posted: »

    What if the campers get angry at Wellington for not letting them in, causing them to team up and team up to destroy Wellington?

  • edited March 2015

    I answered the question to the tee, actually. That's the reason. It's a terribly written ending with no internal reasoning to why Wellington exists or who knows about it's whereabouts, who keeps it self-sustaining, who runs it, how it's run, anything.

    It's Wellington, a place that Kenny and Clementine somehow coincidentally found and has walls three stories tall but no cranes or construction equipment, maintenance crews or any resemblance of structural integrity. It's just one woman guarding one side. The side Clem and Ken somehow managed to discover before she knew. Yeah, ok.

    This literally doesn't answer any of the questions above.

  • I think it doesn't actually have any structural integrity, but it was just sloppily put up to provide the illusion there was a bigger group in there, but was actually to persuade larger groups to leave because they'd be intimidated by the wall.

    I answered the question to the tee, actually. That's the reason. It's a terribly written ending with no internal reasoning to why Wellington

  • So a place that many people know about only through word-of-mouth (which is quite impressive considering it's a zombie apocalypse) isn't well protected or guarded? And it's perimeter is just an allusion? For what?

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    I mean, look at that shit. There's one crane which I'm assuming needs gas to operate, how did one visible crane manage to put up all that without the sound constantly attracting walkers? Where'd they get all that stuff from? It's a forest on all sides, was Wellington a construction site? It'd have to be a goddamn big mall they were building in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere.

    Nothing about Wellington adds up, even remotely.

    I think it doesn't actually have any structural integrity, but it was just sloppily put up to provide the illusion there was a bigger group in there, but was actually to persuade larger groups to leave because they'd be intimidated by the wall.

  • It looks very impressive to me... and maybe it's not in the middle of nowhere. Maybe there's a city inside, or maybe it doesn't have four walls, but one wall going around the whole city? idk.

    So a place that many people know about only through word-of-mouth (which is quite impressive considering it's a zombie apocalypse) isn't wel

  • Maybe they kill and eat anybody that they accept into wellington. Who knows. Writing.

    Omid's cat posted: »

    Because camping in games isn't fair.

  • You're grasping at straws. Every single ending was shit but the Wellington one isn't as retarded as the howe's one or Clem's autistic walk into the zombie herd.

    I just realized Wellington is a copy of GoT's north side of The Wall.

    Fucking Bravo, Breckon and Shorette.

    So a place that many people know about only through word-of-mouth (which is quite impressive considering it's a zombie apocalypse) isn't wel

  • idk.

    That's the thing though. Nobody knows; not the writers, not you, certainly not me, not Edith nor anyone who gave her the bags filled with free supplies. Which is another plot-hole in and of itself, how much is there to spare? If they're in the middle of an extremely cold area, how do they grow crops or raise their livestock?

    None of it adds up, which was my point in the first place.

    It looks very impressive to me... and maybe it's not in the middle of nowhere. Maybe there's a city inside, or maybe it doesn't have four walls, but one wall going around the whole city? idk.

  • I have a feeling they'll explain it in Season 3.

    idk. That's the thing though. Nobody knows; not the writers, not you, certainly not me, not Edith nor anyone who gave her the bags f

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    I just realized Wellington is a copy of GoT's north side of The Wall.

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    It's reminiscent of the compound from The Road Warrior now that I think of it. Not as good or as well-written as any Mad Max film, but equally silly and over-the-top.

    You're grasping at straws. Every single ending was shit but the Wellington one isn't as retarded as the howe's one or Clem's autistic walk i

  • They have a lot to answer to, they'll certainly miss some stuff. At some point there's too much to comb over and try to explain.

    I have a feeling they'll explain it in Season 3.

  • I just looked up the real Wellington ohio its a tiny little town with f a going on there it doesn't make sense that it could be made into a stronghold because I doubt they had the resources to build that wall let alone the manpower, unless there was military assistance and even then I cant see how it was possible to build like that. If it was a dock town or some type of industrious town then it may have been possible but its just a tiny little place.

  • I think they thought they were being clever by using the walls of Wellington to be some kind of literary representation very similar to the gates of Heaven. And while somewhat interesting as a concept ideal, the tone doesn't fit even closely to what the entire season was leading up which ultimately makes it the most anticlimactic and uninspired ending scene. Something out of blockbuster Hollywood feel good hit.

    I just looked up the real Wellington ohio its a tiny little town with f a going on there it doesn't make sense that it could be made into a

  • I see exactly what you mean, hopefully it will turn out those are the gates of hell just to make it more interesting

    I think they thought they were being clever by using the walls of Wellington to be some kind of literary representation very similar to the

  • edited March 2015

    The recent episode on the tv show, it revealed that it was possible to build a wall like that because a shopping mail was about to be built nearby before a ZA hit. For a wall that big that's in the game, I'd assume it's a pretty big camp in there. So with enough people to build it, and to have gone on supply runs to gather up enough of the equipment and tools what would be needed to construct it, yeah it's possible. There are some trainlines that run straight through there. I actually think that's where those metal shipping containers crates could've come from if one of those long cargo trains stopped in at a station when the ZA broke out, as we do see them used there as 'gates' at the front of Wellington [or you know could've gotten it from an actual trucks, or both, but I did see one of those trains captured on the tracks in the google map when i checked some months ago, so those types of trains do go through there]. You can also see the top of a crane too from behind Wellington's wall, so they do have building equipment in there.

    When I last checked on wiki, Wellington Ohio had about a 4000 population living there. Granted there is a ZA happening in the game and that number would no doubt be less if most the original people who used to live there are dead, and it mostlyjust consists of survivors from all around, but yeah, you get the idea with that. It might be small but Wellington could still house a lot of people there and considering the human population would probably not be in the billions anymore, a small town of a few thousand would be pretty huge and surely out of those numbers there has to be those who know about construction or builders, and those that can learn from them.

    I feel a little awkward saying this, but in terms of Wellington Ohio being a small town, size doesn't matter.

    I just looked up the real Wellington ohio its a tiny little town with f a going on there it doesn't make sense that it could be made into a

  • 4000 is nothing considering id say at least 1/4 would have died in the very early stages people would have left, some would have been children or infirm and also some people are just selfish and lazy and wouldn't have pulled there wieght plus building is taxing on the body and they wouldnt have had sufficient food supplies to feed a construction team big enough to pull that off. 4000 is nothing at all also that lumber is huge do you have any idea how much lumber weighs, that crane is far too flimsy to have built the wall and it would have taken ages. I stand by my opinion that a town like wellington building a wall like that is farfetched at best.

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    The recent episode on the tv show, it revealed that it was possible to build a wall like that because a shopping mail was about to be built

  • edited March 2015

    Exactly, so it safe to assume the people who are there, whatever number that is, are survivors that have come together. It was rumored to be a big camp, but despite the real Wellington having 4000, i don't believe the one in the game has that many; it could be half of that, or less. But it's still a big number of people. And it's one crane we see, we don't know what else they have in there.

    Along with supply runs, if they've stocked up to anything like what Carver did in his camp with all that food, then they'd have enough to get by on, especially if they are just handing out bags like that to the groups they don't let in. And I checked and there are farmlands there too. If any of that is behind the wall then they'd be able to grow food for themselves, and there are ways to grow food in the the winter times and colder climates so that isn't an issue neither. They may even have cattle or other animals there if it's like the one from the comic. From a cow you could get meat, cheese, milk, or from chickens you could get eggs. They may even have people that go outside the wall to go hunting. They'd find a way.

    Finally Wellington's wall is constructed from metal, not stone. It'd still be a lot of hard work, but it's probably not as difficult as moving lots of stones around. They could do it, it would just take a while.

    4000 is nothing considering id say at least 1/4 would have died in the very early stages people would have left, some would have been childr

  • I said lumber, lumber is wood.

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Exactly, so it safe to assume the people who are there, whatever number that is, are survivors that have come together. It was rumored to be

  • Yes, but nothing of the wall is made of wood, not that we can see.

    I said lumber, lumber is wood.

  • If its completly made of metal thats even more ridiculous how could they join it? Where did thet get the army of welders or even get rivets big enough to do the job? I think it does look like its part wood myself, but it doesn't realy matter because so much is unexplainable in TWD

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Yes, but nothing of the wall is made of wood, not that we can see.

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