I'm not sure what the point of the season was at all. Season 1 was finding a safe place for Clem and the group. Season 2 is kind of all over the place.
I had a real problem with that too. 9 days and this newborn is as docile as a lamb? I hope next season the challenges of taking care of him are shown more.
Completely agreed.
I just wish that they would've at least shown Kenny, Clem and AJ to be hungry (and for AJ to be crying because he's hu… morengry for goodness' sake) as they should've been at least starving, and it should've taken wayyyyyyy longer than nine days to find Wellington when they had no flipping clue where it was, as they weren't even sure which state it was in exactly. ("It's a big camp up near Michigan.") How many would have gone with Kenny, and how many would have thought Kenny's sunshine ending was so great if AJ had been crying from the cold and hunger, ready to draw walkers as soon as they walked away from Wellington's walls? (That whole "I'll race you up the hill, Clem! Wellington's on the other side!" should've been, "Oh shit, run up this hill away from the walkers, Clem! If only I hadn't been so stubborn to look for Wellington when I had no idea where it was, and now AJ's so hungry that he's crying and drawing walkers left … [view original content]
I'm a fan of Kenny..
Jane fans: I'm also a fan of Jane.
Lee fans: I'm also a fan of lee, christa, clem, ect.
Don't hate on such top… moreic. You people really make confused of stupid actions on a game. Many fights happen here because two people show contradicted opinions.
Such thing, blame the writers not Kenny himself. I feel I will get the "Ooh, we're getting live in the game, don't act so genius about it" treatment.
For fuck's sake, just don't. hate.
It's even more stupid to argue with you guys, because you will just increase the hate.
Just sayin.
Him breathing after giving him four compressions are a good start.
So how do you know that he was breathing and he wasn't actually reanimating? We'll never know. Some people will think he was alive and some will think he was dead (even if there aren't any signs of reanimation, it depends, some reanimate faster without any signs of reanimation besides their eyes). Both ways should be respected.
Of course not, but Lilly and Clementine certainly did.
Everyone has lost people, Kenny too, I understand Lilly being mad at him, but Kenny's actions weren't focused on hurting Lilly, just surviving. He didn't want to hurt anyone, but he had to. Clementine has witnessed far worse things, and she would have to sooner or later. Not everything would always be sunshines and rainbows. I hated for her to witness that, don't get me wrong, but she would have to know sooner or later that that world is a difficult one, and if you want to survive, you're gonna have to make hard choices. Lee wasn't going to be there forever.
Yes, he kept us safe... Like if you don't side with him and he sits behind a stall door watching Lee ready to be gunned down. Which also in and of itself pisses me off because if he is so willing to murder a potential (and I use that term loosely) walker, what's to stop him from actually doing a heroic action by sucker punching Danny? If he was so hell-bend on rescuing his family, why allow someone who is on the same side as you to die making progress harder for your own objective?
That's the determinant stuff. It would be too "easy" to make Kenny help him whatever he decides, but hey "your choices matter". Also I think it's normal that if you don't back someone up, he won't do it either. Happens everyday. But I'll give you that one that Kenny did wrong not doing anything to save Lee on that situation.
How can you know he wasn't dead?
Him breathing after giving him four compressions are a good start.
Larry didn't feel anything… more anyways.
Of course not, but Lilly and Clementine certainly did.
Also, Kenny apologized more than once. He also apologized when he yelled at Clem
I was referring to him apologizing to Lilly once. And in any rate, an apology rarely means anything if you're not willing to take the actions necessary to prove that your apology was ever worth it to begin with.
Seriously how would you kill that thing if Larry reanimated?
I'm interested, why does the outcome that we're hypothetically throwing have to be a worse-case scenario? Why does the argument have to be "what if Larry reanimated?" If Larry was a zombie, why couldn't Kenny have waited for a sign of reanimation? Everything we've been shown so far tells us that there is very definitive signs of reanimation. Pale discoloratio… [view original content]
I'm a fan of Kenny..
Jane fans: I'm also a fan of Jane.
Lee fans: I'm also a fan of lee, christa, clem, ect.
Don't hate on such top… moreic. You people really make confused of stupid actions on a game. Many fights happen here because two people show contradicted opinions.
Such thing, blame the writers not Kenny himself. I feel I will get the "Ooh, we're getting live in the game, don't act so genius about it" treatment.
For fuck's sake, just don't. hate.
It's even more stupid to argue with you guys, because you will just increase the hate.
Just sayin.
Him breathing after giving him four compressions are a good start.
So how do you know that he was breathing and he wasn't actually r… moreeanimating? We'll never know. Some people will think he was alive and some will think he was dead (even if there aren't any signs of reanimation, it depends, some reanimate faster without any signs of reanimation besides their eyes). Both ways should be respected.
Of course not, but Lilly and Clementine certainly did.
Everyone has lost people, Kenny too, I understand Lilly being mad at him, but Kenny's actions weren't focused on hurting Lilly, just surviving. He didn't want to hurt anyone, but he had to. Clementine has witnessed far worse things, and she would have to sooner or later. Not everything would always be sunshines and rainbows. I hated for her to witness that, don't get me wrong, but she would have to know sooner or later that that world is a difficult one, and if you want to surv… [view original content]
So how do you know that he was breathing and he wasn't actually reanimating?
He only breathes like that if you push on his chest fou… morer times. The same time elapses regardless of whether you push on his chest.
Pushing on someone's chest doesn't make them reanimate faster.
Ergo, he was taking a breath.
You don't get that kind of nervous spasm if you're already dead.
And even if you could, Lee presses 4 times in exactly the same place. If it was a spasm, it would have happened the other three times.
He oversee her actions and protected her. that is a guardian. Before Carver arrives at the lounge, Kenny was going to originally kick out Luke's group and just have Clem stay: " You dont have to worry about running any more . they'll[Luke's group] will be gone first thing in the morning." Also, Kenny try to stop Clem from drinking. Overall, just thought of her as a family member
What did Clem learn from Kenny as a guardian?
Don't remember him ever being a guardian of any sort. Anyway I learned not to be even remotely like him. Of course, I already knew that.
He oversee her actions and protected her. that is a guardian. Before Carver arrives at the lounge, Kenny was going to originally kick out Lu… moreke's group and just have Clem stay: " You dont have to worry about running any more . they'll[Luke's group] will be gone first thing in the morning." Also, Kenny try to stop Clem from drinking. Overall, just thought of her as a family member
The Cabin Group was going to leave on their own terms and I planned to leave with them. Personally he was just another group member. Besides if Kenny was going to kick them out, that isn't the type of thing a nice guardian would do especially if Clem considers them friends.
He oversee her actions and protected her. that is a guardian. Before Carver arrives at the lounge, Kenny was going to originally kick out Lu… moreke's group and just have Clem stay: " You dont have to worry about running any more . they'll[Luke's group] will be gone first thing in the morning." Also, Kenny try to stop Clem from drinking. Overall, just thought of her as a family member
Completely agreed.
I just wish that they would've at least shown Kenny, Clem and AJ to be hungry (and for AJ to be crying because he's hu… morengry for goodness' sake) as they should've been at least starving, and it should've taken wayyyyyyy longer than nine days to find Wellington when they had no flipping clue where it was, as they weren't even sure which state it was in exactly. ("It's a big camp up near Michigan.") How many would have gone with Kenny, and how many would have thought Kenny's sunshine ending was so great if AJ had been crying from the cold and hunger, ready to draw walkers as soon as they walked away from Wellington's walls? (That whole "I'll race you up the hill, Clem! Wellington's on the other side!" should've been, "Oh shit, run up this hill away from the walkers, Clem! If only I hadn't been so stubborn to look for Wellington when I had no idea where it was, and now AJ's so hungry that he's crying and drawing walkers left … [view original content]
why would they do that, if they thought it was safe and rebecca is pregnant? Alvin wouldn't want to leave because of his wife. that would be a nice conflict to see.
The Cabin Group was going to leave on their own terms and I planned to leave with them. Personally he was just another group member. Besides… more if Kenny was going to kick them out, that isn't the type of thing a nice guardian would do especially if Clem considers them friends.
Carlos sole interest wasn't to protect Clem. I don't think he had any interest in protecting her in any instance. He haves a daughter that needs the protection more.And he sucks at that.
purpose of locking Clementine in the shed was to literally see if she was going to live or not.
Did you even play the first episode? The purpose of locking Clem in the shed was to determine if it was a walker bite, as admitting someone with a walker bite had killed Nick's mother recently. He was trying to protect his family and friends by shitty means. Like Kenny was by putting clementine at risk against her wishes.
And the purpose of that was to escape Carver's.
The purpose of locking Clementine in the shed was to literally see if she was going to live or not. Unnecessarily.
why would they do that, if they thought it was safe and rebecca is pregnant? Alvin wouldn't want to leave because of his wife. that would be a nice conflict to see.
Carlos sole interest wasn't to protect Clem. I don't think he had any interest in protecting her in any instance. He haves a daughter that needs the protection more.And he sucks at that.
The purpose of locking Clem in the shed was to determine if it was a walker bite
Which is why I said 'live or not'.
He was trying to protect his family and friends by shitty means. Like Kenny was by putting clementine at risk against her wishes.
Except that in these two cases (technically one, the other is determinant) where Clementine is put at risk against her will, one was to benefit people she didn't know, the other was to benefit ones she did know at that point and herself.
purpose of locking Clementine in the shed was to literally see if she was going to live or not.
Did you even play the first episode?… more The purpose of locking Clem in the shed was to determine if it was a walker bite, as admitting someone with a walker bite had killed Nick's mother recently. He was trying to protect his family and friends by shitty means. Like Kenny was by putting clementine at risk against her wishes.
The purpose of locking Clem in the shed was to determine if it was a walker bite
Which is why I said 'live or not'.
He was try… moreing to protect his family and friends by shitty means. Like Kenny was by putting clementine at risk against her wishes.
Except that in these two cases (technically one, the other is determinant) where Clementine is put at risk against her will, one was to benefit people she didn't know, the other was to benefit ones she did know at that point and herself.
Carlos shoots the walker in episode 2 because he just happens to be around the area. He wasn't like" oh god clem is endanger."
Kenny's always been about the baby and Clem. why would he care that you didnt sit next to him and actually felt hurt about it if he didnt have a interest in her?
I fricken know, but yet again, Kenny in season was only alive for about 3 weeks. So, You can't really blame him too much for the lack of te… moreaching, considering that Lee had Clem for a year and Christa had her for about two.
But still, Kenny is just the worst guardian.
Not to mention, Kenny fans are still free to answer the OP's question about specific life skills Kenny could teach Clem, but I've yet to see any do so yet in this thread really.
Bashing a character is not the same as bashing the people who like said character or who are even similar to said character. I don't really … moreknow any Kenny fans personally on any deep level, so I don't feel I can judge the whole personality of a die-hard Kenny fan solely on the decisions they made in a gosh darn video game. And I'm not doing that; I'm expressing my judgement of a character who we've been able to scrutinize under literally several different situations, up until our time with him can end in several different ways, and taking all these circumstances into account.
Not to mention, Kenny fans are still free to answer the OP's question about specific life skills Kenny could teach Clem, but I've yet to see any do so yet in this thread really.
I could say the same about Jane never being praised, and how there's often a lot of Jane hate around. Maybe not right now but could be again in a while. I've tried publicly discussing her a… [view original content]
Excuse me?? And where, pray tell, did I "dis" Kenny fans? Please feel free to read through my comments and point me to one. Maybe I insulted Kenny but not his fans. And just so you know darling, if I wanted to insult someone, then I'd drive them into the ground, and never without good reason, too.
And no, I don't think anyone on this thread has answered the OP's question, not really. If anyone actually read the OP a bit more carefully, it says, "Do you guys think that if you keep Kenny alive that Kenny in the opening scene of season 3 will be teaching Clem how to repair cars, Or a cooler opening scene where its still in the intro credits and you hear a what seem to be someone just got slapped, the scene opens and its Kenny teaching Clem how to fight dirty or fishing, something useful?" Rather, people are discussing if Kenny is a guardian at all, and they are discussing general morals they believe Kenny passed on to Clem, which was not what the OP, @wrestlingdead12 was specifically looking for (at least it seems that way to me). The OP means specific manual skills, like if Kenny could teach Clem how to properly drive a car, or he could show her how to shoot a rifle properly (remember she couldn't when she tried shooting a rifle in "A House Divided," but Kenny knows how to), or how to go hunting (Kenny was shown to be hunting with Lee in "Starved for Help.")
Not to mention, Kenny fans are still free to answer the OP's question about specific life skills Kenny could teach Clem, but I've yet to see any do so yet in this thread really.
Yeah they have, and you tried to dis them
Well its kinda funny you wrote that whole thing, because I just realized I'm a complete retard and combined like 3 peoples opinions into one person's ......lol.
Excuse me?? And where, pray tell, did I "dis" Kenny fans? Please feel free to read through my comments and point me to one. Maybe I insulted… more Kenny but not his fans. And just so you know darling, if I wanted to insult someone, then I'd drive them into the ground, and never without good reason, too.
And no, I don't think anyone on this thread has answered the OP's question, not really. If anyone actually read the OP a bit more carefully, it says, "Do you guys think that if you keep Kenny alive that Kenny in the opening scene of season 3 will be teaching Clem how to repair cars, Or a cooler opening scene where its still in the intro credits and you hear a what seem to be someone just got slapped, the scene opens and its Kenny teaching Clem how to fight dirty or fishing, something useful?" Rather, people are discussing if Kenny is a guardian at all, and they are discussing general morals they believe Kenny passed on to Clem, which was not what… [view original content]
Lol aw. You're not a "retard" or an idiot. But it's ok; I forgive you.
XD
...Though actually I have to go back and check how many people were explicitly insulting Kenny fans in this thread. Not sure they were. But then I'd have to go and read the whole thread over againnnn! :lazy face:
Well its kinda funny you wrote that whole thing, because I just realized I'm a complete retard and combined like 3 peoples opinions into one person's ......lol.
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Haha, hoisted on your own petard.
The artistic point, not the literal physical aim of the group.
I had a real problem with that too. 9 days and this newborn is as docile as a lamb? I hope next season the challenges of taking care of him are shown more.
Wait so if Kenny does something we think is immoral, we have to blame the writers rather than him? We can't blame him for doing something bad?
Really?
So how do you know that he was breathing and he wasn't actually reanimating? We'll never know. Some people will think he was alive and some will think he was dead (even if there aren't any signs of reanimation, it depends, some reanimate faster without any signs of reanimation besides their eyes). Both ways should be respected.
Everyone has lost people, Kenny too, I understand Lilly being mad at him, but Kenny's actions weren't focused on hurting Lilly, just surviving. He didn't want to hurt anyone, but he had to. Clementine has witnessed far worse things, and she would have to sooner or later. Not everything would always be sunshines and rainbows. I hated for her to witness that, don't get me wrong, but she would have to know sooner or later that that world is a difficult one, and if you want to survive, you're gonna have to make hard choices. Lee wasn't going to be there forever.
That's the determinant stuff. It would be too "easy" to make Kenny help him whatever he decides, but hey "your choices matter". Also I think it's normal that if you don't back someone up, he won't do it either. Happens everyday. But I'll give you that one that Kenny did wrong not doing anything to save Lee on that situation.
Anyways, to each their own.
Blame the writers? Do we have to blame, say, Shakespeare for Othello being a killer? How's that even an argument?
He only breathes like that if you push on his chest four times. The same time elapses regardless of whether you push on his chest.
Pushing on someone's chest doesn't make them reanimate faster.
Ergo, he was taking a breath.
Or he could've had some kind of nervous spasm.
You don't get that kind of nervous spasm if you're already dead.
And even if you could, Lee presses 4 times in exactly the same place. If it was a spasm, it would have happened the other three times.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Anyways, you have your opinion, I have mine. Let's just drop the subject already. Have a great day.
None of what we were just discussing was opinion, it was all fact - Larry was, factually, taking a breath.
He oversee her actions and protected her. that is a guardian. Before Carver arrives at the lounge, Kenny was going to originally kick out Luke's group and just have Clem stay: " You dont have to worry about running any more . they'll[Luke's group] will be gone first thing in the morning." Also, Kenny try to stop Clem from drinking. Overall, just thought of her as a family member
Carlos protected clem and saw lots of her actions.
Was Carlos her guardian?
The Cabin Group was going to leave on their own terms and I planned to leave with them. Personally he was just another group member. Besides if Kenny was going to kick them out, that isn't the type of thing a nice guardian would do especially if Clem considers them friends.
Carlos had her locked in the shed.
Kenny had her steal the walkie talkie regardless of whether she wanted to.
Ok then...
huh!? You're right. Why aren't these people starving or tired from these 9 day trips?
And the purpose of that was to escape Carver's.
The purpose of locking Clementine in the shed was to literally see if she was going to live or not. Unnecessarily.
why would they do that, if they thought it was safe and rebecca is pregnant? Alvin wouldn't want to leave because of his wife. that would be a nice conflict to see.
Carlos sole interest wasn't to protect Clem. I don't think he had any interest in protecting her in any instance. He haves a daughter that needs the protection more.And he sucks at that.
Did you even play the first episode? The purpose of locking Clem in the shed was to determine if it was a walker bite, as admitting someone with a walker bite had killed Nick's mother recently. He was trying to protect his family and friends by shitty means. Like Kenny was by putting clementine at risk against her wishes.
They were leaving to avoid Carver, remember? Can't stay in one place for too long.
Kenny's sole interest wasn't to protect Clem either.
If Carlos never wanted to protect her, then why did he protect her from walkers?
Which is why I said 'live or not'.
Except that in these two cases (technically one, the other is determinant) where Clementine is put at risk against her will, one was to benefit people she didn't know, the other was to benefit ones she did know at that point and herself.
But its way more than 'live or not', it's 'live or possibly end up killing my daughter'.
I dont see how her knowing them has anything to do with it, she can determinantly dislike all of them.
Both situations are people putting Clementine at risk to save people they want to save.
Im just kidding. No need to throw the googly eyes at me.
Do you folks remember Sarita mentioned a couple of times Kenny was different before he reunited with Clementine? Was he caring and reasonable?
Carlos shoots the walker in episode 2 because he just happens to be around the area. He wasn't like" oh god clem is endanger."
Kenny's always been about the baby and Clem. why would he care that you didnt sit next to him and actually felt hurt about it if he didnt have a interest in her?
I think that Kenny was just about to become sane again. Then , the carver thing ruined it.
Googly eyes are the best though.
Lee had Clem for < 1 year.
In hindsight, they really should have just made it so Larry takes those "breaths" regardless of player action, so it'd appear more ambiguous
Or maybe just remove them entirely
Yeah they have, and you tried to dis them
Excuse me?? And where, pray tell, did I "dis" Kenny fans? Please feel free to read through my comments and point me to one. Maybe I insulted Kenny but not his fans. And just so you know darling, if I wanted to insult someone, then I'd drive them into the ground, and never without good reason, too.
And no, I don't think anyone on this thread has answered the OP's question, not really. If anyone actually read the OP a bit more carefully, it says, "Do you guys think that if you keep Kenny alive that Kenny in the opening scene of season 3 will be teaching Clem how to repair cars, Or a cooler opening scene where its still in the intro credits and you hear a what seem to be someone just got slapped, the scene opens and its Kenny teaching Clem how to fight dirty or fishing, something useful?" Rather, people are discussing if Kenny is a guardian at all, and they are discussing general morals they believe Kenny passed on to Clem, which was not what the OP, @wrestlingdead12 was specifically looking for (at least it seems that way to me). The OP means specific manual skills, like if Kenny could teach Clem how to properly drive a car, or he could show her how to shoot a rifle properly (remember she couldn't when she tried shooting a rifle in "A House Divided," but Kenny knows how to), or how to go hunting (Kenny was shown to be hunting with Lee in "Starved for Help.")
Well its kinda funny you wrote that whole thing, because I just realized I'm a complete retard and combined like 3 peoples opinions into one person's ......lol.
Lol aw. You're not a "retard" or an idiot. But it's ok; I forgive you.
XD
...Though actually I have to go back and check how many people were explicitly insulting Kenny fans in this thread. Not sure they were. But then I'd have to go and read the whole thread over againnnn! :lazy face:
oh, he was just saving his anger to fuck everyone over.
RIP luke ;( you're still my no. 1 bae 4 ever
Shhh. you're going to get people started with him.