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  • 'Homo' is a pretty common slur :P

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Oh, I never really thought about that line.

  • pathetic existence

    attention whore

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    Jane would have gotten distracted looking at Clem walk away because she's such an attention whore, "oh no muh Clem is leaving and didn't fall for my tricks" then Kenny would have ended her pathetic existence.

  • edited July 2015

    Russians are a different nationality, not a different race. A non Russian white person calling a Russian person a slur isn't racist, it's xenophobic.

    Flog61 posted: »

    1) Racism works on a xenophobic axis as well as a skin colour one. 2) Russia hasn't been communist for 70 or so years (and arguably has n

  • You're too good, hun.

    Yeah, but the critical flaw is that Kenny isn't dead in that scenario.

  • Flog61 posted: »

    1) Racism works on a xenophobic axis as well as a skin colour one. 2) Russia hasn't been communist for 70 or so years (and arguably has n

  • 2) Russia hasn't been communist for 70 or so years

    wat

    Flog61 posted: »

    1) Racism works on a xenophobic axis as well as a skin colour one. 2) Russia hasn't been communist for 70 or so years (and arguably has n

  • Wouldn't make a difference. Kenny would still kill her.

  • edited July 2015

    Research it. Putin is in no way communist. Russia has had a very right wing government for a long time.

    2) Russia hasn't been communist for 70 or so years wat

  • 'Racism works on a xenophobic axis as well a a skin colour one'.

    longlivelee posted: »

    Russians are a different nationality, not a different race. A non Russian white person calling a Russian person a slur isn't racist, it's xenophobic.

  • He made one racist comment to Lee

    More than one considering Arvo was a target throughout the entirety of No Going Back for Kenny. And people can still be racist or have racial prejudices and be romantically involved with people of different ethnicities.

    That's attraction.

  • That's just bigoted or xenophobic. The "commie" remarks don't relate to Arvo's race. He makes assumptions about a nation, or as you said a group of people, not a race.

    No, but assumptions about an entire group of people based of off some of their populations' political standpoints is racist.

  • I'm aware they overlap, but I rather use the terms racism and xenophobia in accordance with their actual meaning. That's why both terms exist. Using 'racism' for political/religious etc. discrimination based on the nation or ethnicity seems like a lazy subsumption and sounds too extreme. Race is not involved in this case.

    Flog61 posted: »

    1) Racism works on a xenophobic axis as well as a skin colour one. 2) Russia hasn't been communist for 70 or so years (and arguably has n

  • rac·ism

    /ˈrāˌsizəm/

    noun

    noun: racism

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    •prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    It's based off of prejudiced biased of one's nationally. It can be contextualized as a racist remark.

    rousseau posted: »

    That's just bigoted or xenophobic. The "commie" remarks don't relate to Arvo's race. He makes assumptions about a nation, or as you said a group of people, not a race.

  • Did you even read the rest of his comment?

    He was an ass to Arvo because his group had just ambushed theirs and people died. He isn't racist and suggesting otherwise is ridiculous.

    He made one racist comment to Lee More than one considering Arvo was a target throughout the entirety of No Going Back for Kenny. An

  • Did you even read the rest of his comment?

    What comment do you speak of? I tend to take bits and pieces and assert my viewpoint on that alone...

    Or it could be that EatUpLarry was dead wrong regarding that Kenny said "one racist comment to Lee" because as everyone knows, he made several regarding Arvo and his ethnicity throughout No Going Back.

    Did you even read the rest of his comment? He was an ass to Arvo because his group had just ambushed theirs and people died. He isn't racist and suggesting otherwise is ridiculous.

  • What comment do you speak of? I tend to take bits and pieces and assert my viewpoint on that alone...

    Or it could be that EatUpLarry was dead wrong regarding that Kenny said "one racist comment to Lee" because as everyone knows, he made several regarding Arvo and his ethnicity throughout No Going Back.

    Well, besides the fact that Kenny did only say one racist comment to Lee, which is true, everyone knows, and he then explained why Kenny would say what he did in No Going Back, which he stated, and you ignored, posting that there was more racist comments even though in his post he acknowledged them. Which is why I posted 'Did you even read his comment?' because he did in acknowledge what Kenny said, calling him an 'ass' and explained it:

    He was an ass to Arvo because his group had just ambushed theirs and people died. He isn't racist and suggesting otherwise is ridiculous.

    Did you even read the rest of his comment? What comment do you speak of? I tend to take bits and pieces and assert my viewpoint on t

  • I really don't know, what you want to tell me. This definition proves my point more than yours.

    rac·ism /ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun noun: racism the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilit

  • So Russians are a different race?

    Hmmm

    Flog61 posted: »

    'Racism works on a xenophobic axis as well a a skin colour one'.

  • ...are you even reading what I'm saying?

    Racism, as a term, can include prejudice based on country of origin, not just skin colour.

    longlivelee posted: »

    So Russians are a different race? Hmmm

  • Thank you, InGen_Nate_Kenny. If you had read the entire thing then this conversation would not even be happening, Everyone'sClemInTime. I may be biased because I love Kenny, but I don't think that I would think any differently about this specific argument even if I hated him. You are just taking pieces of my comment and trying to turn them back around so it looks like I'm "dead wrong" and I'm not. This argument always comes up and it is one that is always an annoyance because it's pointless. I don't really believe you will ever change your mind because even with this many people saying you're wrong about this, you still try. You have no argument. By the way, to those of you referring to me as a male, I'm not. Just a side-note.

    What comment do you speak of? I tend to take bits and pieces and assert my viewpoint on that alone... Or it could be that EatUpLarry

  • Welcome to the forums by the way!

    I apologize for referring to you as a man.

    EatUpLarry posted: »

    Thank you, InGen_Nate_Kenny. If you had read the entire thing then this conversation would not even be happening, Everyone'sClemInTime. I ma

  • Thank you!
    That's no problem. With the name and the picture I can see why you'd think I was a guy, but that scene is one of my favorites and I thought it would be appropriate for Larry to be the picture too haha

    Welcome to the forums by the way! I apologize for referring to you as a man.

  • edited July 2015

    Well, I did.

    @rousseau said exactly what I agree with.

    The "commie" remarks don't relate to Arvo's race. He makes assumptions about a nation, or as you said a group of people, not a race.

    rac·ism

    /ˈrāˌsizəm/

    noun

    noun: racism

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    •prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    The definition that @Everyone'sClemInTime gave proves @roussea 's point.

    Flog61 posted: »

    ...are you even reading what I'm saying? Racism, as a term, can include prejudice based on country of origin, not just skin colour.

  • lol... people still talking about this?

  • I said there are multiple definitions of racism, and lots of them include xenophobia.

    Xenophobia comes under 'definitions of racism' on wikipedia, for example.

    longlivelee posted: »

    Well, I did. @rousseau said exactly what I agree with. The "commie" remarks don't relate to Arvo's race. He makes assumptions abou

  • Nope Kenny isnt racist.

    First of all would a racist:

    1. Have a wife who is from Belgium
    2. Have a partner who is Indian
    3. Be friends with a black guy (determinent)
    4. Care for a mixed race girl (Clem obviously)
    5. Save a black girl's life (Christa)
    6. Would a racist help deliver a black woman's baby?

    I think Kenny made offensive remarks that may have been racist but i don't think a proper racist would give any of the above the time of day. That is my opinion btw before any Kenny haters start crying and yelling abuse

    rac·ism /ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun noun: racism the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilit

  • edited July 2015

    I know, but...70 years? Didn't Russia begin to stop being communist after Gorbachev got in in...what? 1985 I believe? 1985 wasn't 70 years' ago...

    Flog61 posted: »

    Research it. Putin is in no way communist. Russia has had a very right wing government for a long time.

  • What does xenophobic mean?

    Flog61 posted: »

    Racism can work on a xenophobic axis, thus Russian people can indeed be the targets of racism.

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