Unfortunately, the fact he's in the show means he has plot armour thicker than molasses. So it's understandable for us to occupy ourselves directing hatred at the characters that we might actually have a chance of getting revenge on such as Gryff and Ludd.
But, yes, Ramsay flays people, killed Ethan and Arthur, suggested Ryon be kidnapped, keeps trying to get Talia to go on a "hunt" with him, has been pushing the Forresters towards destruction since episode 1, is generally just an untouchable, psychopath with far too much power and clearly has no appreciation for the correct laws and processes involved in securing his region a steady supply of Ironwood.
Ramsay is definitely the worst Character in the game. Let's see all the things he has done if you didn't notice.
He dishonorably murdered E… morethan in cold blood in HIS OWN HALL!!!!
He gave the Ironwood forest to the Whitehills who desecrated it.
He flayed innocent people
He ordered Bolton men to kill all that wouldn't give up their land this includes Gared's father and sister!
After he murdered Ethan he had Ryon kidnapped by the Whitehills who could kill him at any moment!
He brutally flayed Arthur Glenmore and cut his stomache open while he made Talia a young girl watch!
He is not only the worst character in the game he may be the most evil character in the whole series.
And what did Gryff or Ludd do? Nothing! in comparison to what Ramsay did there actions could be justified as cute.
The thing about you try to make peace, is not the characters fault, it's "plot magic(we don't care what you choose, this is what is going to happen)" but c'mon...they hate each other and they're at war, it's "satisfatory" you see your enemy getting killed/becoming weaker.
Yeah, but that grin on his face as Asher/Rodrik gets killed, after he sacrificed himself to save his brother is really... I dont know a suit… moreible word. I mean "now" its too late to life in peace with the Forresters, but he made no effort to live in peace with the Forresters, provoking and treating them very bad. And the sad thing is, even if you (Forresters) try to make peace, dont hitting Gryff while the Glenmores hold him, even then this ends in Gryff smiling about their death. I would call that evil, but each to their own.
Jane was a crazy bitch too, "hey the baby is dead" "LOL, Just kidding i hide it so you can see how crazy he is."
I mean, that's wrong in so many ways...and after i saw what she did, i wish i had shot her on my save.
I don't think so. Everyone's just trying to survive. But there are some pretty fucked up people like the Governor who kill people for entert… moreainment, so for me yes and no.
As for Kenny as a villain, he definitely is emotional and seems to be constantly frustrated to the point to where he acts irrational or in some people's eyes actually rational. But in the Kenny ending(s), he does show that he cares for the safety of Clem and AJ more than his own that's not villainous to me.
The entire Kenny vs. Jane thing is just so weird i don't even know what to think of it, it happens so fast. On one end, Kenny was being irrational and should've calmed down to talk about. On the other end, Jane could've stopped the fight because most of the fight she was in control and had the advantage.
Kenny has acted villainous quite a few times, but for the most part he does truly care for Clementine. I can understand why someone could like Kenny and why some… [view original content]
I really really really do NOT see Gryff as this arcs main antagonist and yet I see the story leading to that, and it irks me. I want a full on proper confrontation with Ludd, but if its gonna be Gryff then I bet they will make a rushed scene with Ludd where he just dies, reminiscent of Lee & radio guy (gosh that was dumb, ah need to save clem oh she coincidentially escapes all by herself at the exact right moment)
I know what you mean, and I almost agree. But lets assume the Forresters did their best to make peace, and did everything possible in this game to be "good" and nice an such things. I find it hard to believe that even someone like Gryff would smile about killing the rival house which tried to make peace and was relatively nice all the time. I would at least expect a neutral mood from him. But maybe his character is similar to Ramsay which likes killing and torturing other people, then I would understand that. But I know what you mean, the plot has a route which can hardly be changed in Telltale Games.
The thing about you try to make peace, is not the characters fault, it's "plot magic(we don't care what you choose, this is what is going to… more happen)" but c'mon...they hate each other and they're at war, it's "satisfatory" you see your enemy getting killed/becoming weaker.
I agree, Ramsay is by far the worst and the most genuinely sadistic, wicked character in all Telltale games and GOT universe, with absolutely no excuse for the refinement in torture he comes up with. He's a psychopathic monster.
But he has "cool" lines, so there are people who will find him "cool" no matter what he does. I find the cult around this character kinda cringeworthy.
Ramsay is definitely the worst Character in the game. Let's see all the things he has done if you didn't notice.
He dishonorably murdered E… morethan in cold blood in HIS OWN HALL!!!!
He gave the Ironwood forest to the Whitehills who desecrated it.
He flayed innocent people
He ordered Bolton men to kill all that wouldn't give up their land this includes Gared's father and sister!
After he murdered Ethan he had Ryon kidnapped by the Whitehills who could kill him at any moment!
He brutally flayed Arthur Glenmore and cut his stomache open while he made Talia a young girl watch!
He is not only the worst character in the game he may be the most evil character in the whole series.
And what did Gryff or Ludd do? Nothing! in comparison to what Ramsay did there actions could be justified as cute.
Loved that quote Rodrik said to that smug little sh*t.
“You know what they did to me at the Twins?” he growls as he looms over Gryff. “Th… moreey shredded my face. They put their swords through me. They tried to smash my skull open. But they couldn’t kill me — and you’re not the man to finish the job.”
How do you let Rodrik die by Gryffs men after a quote like that!? Seriously...
Is everyone forgetting Arvo? Why does everyone forgive Arvo and not want to mount his head on a spike?
Eh, Gryff is probably still worse … morethough... the only thing worse than Gruff is his Magic Eye.
Crooked Man was an awesome villain though - if TWAU has a Season 2 then I hope the choice to spare him does carry over and we get a cameo of him in his imprisoned form.
I used to pity Gryff Whitehill after Gwyn told us his tragic childhood backstory - but after Episode 5 I don't care - if he doesn't die I'll go beserk.
Yeah that smug face gryff has at the end of episode 5 makes me want him to suffer even more. Ludd at a close second, some of his lines are unintentionally funny because of his voice i think
I kinda think Crook is the best Telltale villain, he was a perfect foil to the protagonist.
He was calm, collected, in the know with abso… morelutely no mercy or even decency. He was ruthless but had a tiny shred of good.
Where as Bigby was angry, emotional, and moral. There was always something dark lurking below his surface too.
I don't actually think Gryff is that bad, I don't understand how people are so dead set on killing him. I think he's kinda fun, and I guess I don't like stories where the main characters logically have no chance of winning and wouldn't except their the main characters so they just get reaaal lucky.
Also I think Ramsays great too, my favourite GOT character...I just like villains more than heroes I guess.
I think why everyone forgets Arvo is because we will never, ever get the chance to do anything to him ever. Whereas Gryff we can still harm and has had a larger role in the game.
Is everyone forgetting Arvo? Why does everyone forgive Arvo and not want to mount his head on a spike?
Eh, Gryff is probably still worse … morethough... the only thing worse than Gruff is his Magic Eye.
Crooked Man was an awesome villain though - if TWAU has a Season 2 then I hope the choice to spare him does carry over and we get a cameo of him in his imprisoned form.
I used to pity Gryff Whitehill after Gwyn told us his tragic childhood backstory - but after Episode 5 I don't care - if he doesn't die I'll go beserk.
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I agree, Ramsay is definitely the worst.
Unfortunately, the fact he's in the show means he has plot armour thicker than molasses. So it's understandable for us to occupy ourselves directing hatred at the characters that we might actually have a chance of getting revenge on such as Gryff and Ludd.
But, yes, Ramsay flays people, killed Ethan and Arthur, suggested Ryon be kidnapped, keeps trying to get Talia to go on a "hunt" with him, has been pushing the Forresters towards destruction since episode 1, is generally just an untouchable, psychopath with far too much power and clearly has no appreciation for the correct laws and processes involved in securing his region a steady supply of Ironwood.
The thing about you try to make peace, is not the characters fault, it's "plot magic(we don't care what you choose, this is what is going to happen)" but c'mon...they hate each other and they're at war, it's "satisfatory" you see your enemy getting killed/becoming weaker.
Jane was a crazy bitch too, "hey the baby is dead" "LOL, Just kidding i hide it so you can see how crazy he is."
I mean, that's wrong in so many ways...and after i saw what she did, i wish i had shot her on my save.
I really really really do NOT see Gryff as this arcs main antagonist and yet I see the story leading to that, and it irks me. I want a full on proper confrontation with Ludd, but if its gonna be Gryff then I bet they will make a rushed scene with Ludd where he just dies, reminiscent of Lee & radio guy (gosh that was dumb, ah need to save clem oh she coincidentially escapes all by herself at the exact right moment)
I know what you mean, and I almost agree. But lets assume the Forresters did their best to make peace, and did everything possible in this game to be "good" and nice an such things. I find it hard to believe that even someone like Gryff would smile about killing the rival house which tried to make peace and was relatively nice all the time. I would at least expect a neutral mood from him. But maybe his character is similar to Ramsay which likes killing and torturing other people, then I would understand that. But I know what you mean, the plot has a route which can hardly be changed in Telltale Games.
I agree, Ramsay is by far the worst and the most genuinely sadistic, wicked character in all Telltale games and GOT universe, with absolutely no excuse for the refinement in torture he comes up with. He's a psychopathic monster.
But he has "cool" lines, so there are people who will find him "cool" no matter what he does. I find the cult around this character kinda cringeworthy.
Based on the comments in the forum and my own feelings at the moment, I'd say the writers win this award.
I hate Ramsay more than Gryff or Ludd but since he's protected by plot armor I take my anger out on those two in game.
When did Rodrik say that ?
Lol no one forgot Arvo, it's just that a lot of injuries heal with some time.
I'm still salty about Carley myself but I came to stop bothering with Arvo. I'm not even mad at Ben anymore
No he isn't.
Spongebob? Are you a Lannister?
No creepypasta could ruin my childhood worse than this
My favourite scene was when ethan told him to calm himself,and he said ''You little f**k!''
I liked how he called Royland a "cunt" during that scene.
I agree with you, I think that Crook is actually one of the most underrated characters of Telltale and I just can't figure out why.
I don't actually think Gryff is that bad, I don't understand how people are so dead set on killing him. I think he's kinda fun, and I guess I don't like stories where the main characters logically have no chance of winning and wouldn't except their the main characters so they just get reaaal lucky.
Also I think Ramsays great too, my favourite GOT character...I just like villains more than heroes I guess.
If you stand up to Gryff instead of submitting it's one of the options.
I think why everyone forgets Arvo is because we will never, ever get the chance to do anything to him ever. Whereas Gryff we can still harm and has had a larger role in the game.
Lol I did not submit, definitely not my style. I just did not remember such an option... Kind of wish I had chosen it though ^^
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Kenny was even a doucher than Gryff, we can all agree on that.
It's the "I don't fear you" option, and yeah, it's awesome!
Thanks man;)