Clem getting shot in the shoulder...

edited August 2015 in The Walking Dead

How is she still alive? Aren't there arteries in the shoulder, which would cause her major blood loss without complex medical attention?

And it doesn't make it any better since she's a small child, so obviously her body would be weaker. Is there any way to justify this unrealistic injury?

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  • No it doesnt make any sense but its done now

  • The writers didn't tell you their mission was to destroy any interest Clementine had as a character by making her a boring, lame, monotone super girl who can kick down doors climb ledges without being noticed or falling and hold off a horde of walkers alone? Well now you know :)

  • edited August 2015

    Because she was wearing

    PLOT-ARMOR

  • edited August 2015

    She did receive medical attention, but it was when she was unconscious that either Kenny or Jane provided it. Deltino posted a great comment about this in the Details People Might Forget thread, I forget which page but I know for a fact he did post it, showing clear evidence that the wound was treated, even though we didn't see it happen.

    EDIT: found it on page 147. Here's the link: https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/71545/details-that-people-might-forget-don-t-notice-or-just-don-t-know-about/p147

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    Alright, now I'm not trying to 100% defend the medical accuracy of this scene, but to provide a few possibilities:

    • Low enough caliber can kind of explain the lack of extensive damage caused by the shot

    • The shot itself can be justified by... well, luck. Judging from where the bullet entered her body, it looks like it narrowly avoided hitting the brachial artery, going through just below it. The exit wound, on the other hand, looks like it's a bit above where the entrance wound is, which makes it look like the bullet scraped/ricocheted off the shoulder blade and exited above it, or just to the side of it

    And finally, despite common belief, Kenny and Jane did do something with the wound. She has visible bandaging around the wound when she wakes up, which quite obviously suggests that they actually tended to it

  • Kenny or Jane bandaged the girl up after getting shot. The bullet went through Clem's shoulder, so no problems concerning poisin or what not. It also appears there was no internal injury that would cause any long lasting problems. Also the most important thing that I think everyone forgets. It's a video game. Characters get fucked up all the time, especially in TWD universe and bounce back good enough to keep truckin. Kenny got gut shot point blank and was able to keep walking and lift boxes of food. If you think her living is incredible, then the TWD comics will blow your mind.

  • edited August 2015

    The answer is soooo clear. She's SuperClem. BTW, whoever did this, I love you!

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  • edited August 2015

    God Dammit! For the 1,000th time WHERE IS THE SALTLICK PEOPLE!!! :(

    Fuck it, I'm the hero Telltale deserves, but not the one it needs...

    Forever people will be asking...

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    The answer is soooo clear. She's SuperClem. BTW, whoever did this, I love you!

  • Saltlick, you deserve a Superman cape!

    Saltlick123 posted: »

    God Dammit! For the 1,000th time WHERE IS THE SALTLICK PEOPLE!!! Fuck it, I'm the hero Telltale deserves, but not the one it needs... Forever people will be asking...

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    LUCKY DAMN LUCKY. I love the writing it amuses me.

    Deltino posted: »

    Alright, now I'm not trying to 100% defend the medical accuracy of this scene, but to provide a few possibilities: * Low enough caliber

  • Kenny will return in Season 3 where he'll survive a head/gut shot with two possible eye patches and a soon to be dead french woman named Anita. He'll become more angry and violent in an even worse written plot involving him and his hunt for a plane

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    LUCKY DAMN LUCKY. I love the writing it amuses me.

  • In all honesty, i'm done with Clementine's story. I would like to see the world now from a different perspective, maybe from a bad guy's perspective. Why do we always have to play as the "good guy." I would like the freedom of actual choice. I just got done playing Fallout New Vegas, awesome game when it doesn't crash. I like the fact in that game, you can be as wicked as you want. There is freedom in that game. I remember...

    This one quest, where i had to go rescue this guy's family from this enemy faction. I couldn't save them because my character wasn't strong enough, so i tricked them into running away, causing their deaths. Then i had a flashback to the movie dragonheart." DEATH IS A RELEASE ", not a punishment.

    Clemenem posted: »

    Kenny will return in Season 3 where he'll survive a head/gut shot with two possible eye patches and a soon to be dead french woman named Anita. He'll become more angry and violent in an even worse written plot involving him and his hunt for a plane

  • Good theories, but here's some things.

    -- It was a hunting rifle, which suggests that it's fairly high caliber with a powerful load with a lot of energy. Probably 30.06 or .308.

    -- Bullets don't need to hit tissue to damage it. Bullets, especially rifle rounds create a huge temporary cavity when they hit the body. Even if the bullet narrowly avoided an artery, the energy would easily be high enough to shear open the artery, not to mention damage shoulder muscles and quite possibly a lung.

    Deltino posted: »

    Alright, now I'm not trying to 100% defend the medical accuracy of this scene, but to provide a few possibilities: * Low enough caliber

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited August 2015

    It's plot convenience. Realistically, one of two things would probably happen.

    1.) Clementine bleeds out externally and internally, dies in agony a few minutes later.

    2.) Clementine survives, but her shoulder joint is completely destroyed. She never uses that arm properly again.

    Neither are very satisfying endings.

  • If I'm not mistaken, the bullet didn't hit her shoulder joint, but the chest area just below the collarbone. nothing vital was destroyed. however, the first option could've happened indeed.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    It's plot convenience. Realistically, one of two things would probably happen. 1.) Clementine bleeds out externally and internally, dies

  • Thing is, even if it missed the shoulder joint, the kinetic energy and temporary cavity from a rifle bullet can damage nearby arteries (subclavian, brachial), organs (lung), muscles (deltoid) and ligaments (rotator cuff). Not to mention shattering any bone it hits. In a world with hospitals, these can be repaired, but not in TWD universe. I've injured a rotator cuff before. Moving your arm is basically out of the question.

    Being a kid-sized complicates matters even further because everything is that much closer together.

    If I'm not mistaken, the bullet didn't hit her shoulder joint, but the chest area just below the collarbone. nothing vital was destroyed. however, the first option could've happened indeed.

  • While I am happy that Clementine was actually treated, I feel that the 'show, don't tell' method would have been better in a narrative sense. At least show us that Kenny and Jane helped treat an unconscious Clementine rather than just have us assume that all they did was let us bleed out while they bicker at one and another.

    The time it took for the patched wound to be discovered on this forum after the final episode was released was rather long, if I recall, which didn't really help matters.

    Deltino posted: »

    Alright, now I'm not trying to 100% defend the medical accuracy of this scene, but to provide a few possibilities: * Low enough caliber

  • edited August 2015

    Yeah. I think you're right. although Jane mentioned that the bullet went in and out ( a clean shot). perhaps it has mitigated the destructive effects of the bullet?

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Thing is, even if it missed the shoulder joint, the kinetic energy and temporary cavity from a rifle bullet can damage nearby arteries (subc

  • She has rapid cell regeneration. When she's older she will be recruited by a secret military organization that will train her, and she will eventually join a school of mutants.

  • Becuase Arvo is a fucking shitbird and you cant be killed by shitbirds.

  • Im crying. That MGRR reference was so good.

  • Probably 30.06 or .308.

    She would be dead.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Good theories, but here's some things. -- It was a hunting rifle, which suggests that it's fairly high caliber with a powerful load with

  • Exactly. That kind of round leaves a little hole on the way in and a huge tear on the way out.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Probably 30.06 or .308. She would be dead.

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