"Fear the Walking Dead"

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  • Yeah, right. In the world where the term "zombie" never exsisted she should've known that Artie was in fact the undead freak who tried to eat her. Maybe try to imagine yourself in such situation. Really. Imagine that you're living in a world where people never even thought about the concept of walking corpses. One day an unknown outbreak appear which makes people more aggresive towards others, they growl and everything. Now imagine that you only saw one of such people and now you see your friend acting in a weird way, maybe he/she is even your co-worker. It's a person which is known to you... let's say you know this person for like a few years or maybe even longer. It's natural that your first response wouldn't be picking up some heavy or sharp object and "killing" him or her. At first you would probably tried to find some help or maybe even try to help yourself.

    Belan posted: »

    She should have known better. Artie wasn't the first walker that she had encountered, she had been attacked by one in the previous episode,

  • edited September 2015

    Go back and read what I said. This wasn't her first encounter with a walker, it was her second, as she had been attacked by Calvin a day prior to being attacked by Artie. If it had been her first encounter with a walker and she had no idea what was going on, then yes, the way she handled it would have been understandable. This wasn't the case though. She saw in explicit detail what these things are, and what it takes to kill them. And yet, just one single day later, she just strolls right on up to another one without a care in the world. It was stupid.

    Aside from her experience with Calvin, you have to remember the gory evidence that she saw at the church. She also straight up talks to her son about the situation being "real". It was ridiculous that she was so completely unassuming and totally lacking any sort of caution at all when seeing Artie as a walker. How could she have seen the things that she did, acknowledge the situation for what it is, but then approach Artie without a care in the world? It defies common sense.

    Tewudin posted: »

    Yeah, right. In the world where the term "zombie" never exsisted she should've known that Artie was in fact the undead freak who tried to ea

  • there is not going to be a new one this weekend.

  • edited December 2015

    jamex1223 posted: »

    there is not going to be a new one this weekend.

  • No problem! :)

    In books (Comics Universe) It's starting in 2011 (August probably)

    Duuude, that is awesome! Wow. I guess that means the iPhone's and stuff were actually coincidence...dang, it all fit so well! But now we

  • How do you know that? It seems very unlikely tbh

    One example would be the railroad map Lee can examine. On it I think it says it's the map for 2003-2005 or 2006.

    Also, when Kirkman began the story, he probably had a 2003 world in mind, even if only subcouncious. After all, how would he know what the world would look like in 2011?

    But it's cool to know a date for the show now.

    Karnedg2013 posted: »

    No problem! In books (Comics Universe) It's starting in 2011 (August probably)

  • Well... in our discussion we forgot about one thing - maybe you're right in a way but you also have to remember that they don't know everything yet. They probably don't even realize that this "people" aren't alive anymore. Even when they saw the recording from the highway Travis said "The guy's not dead". They thought he was dead but suddenly he get up so the first thing that came to their heads was "Seems he wasn't dead after all". For them, this "people", the infected, are still alive. My point is - in this early days people would probably believe, maybe even a little, that this sick people might be cured, that there is still a chance for them to be normal and healthy again.

    So let me ask you - okay, maybe you're right. After a night I thought about it a little and yes, she should know that this people are dangerous. She actually know this already. We saw this later in the episode when she decided not to do something because there was one of those infected. Anyway, imagine this - you see your friend, maybe he's one of your best friends or maybe just a friend from work . You know that he act kind of weird, like the sick person you met just earlier this day. Like I said, you probably know that they're dangerous but... what would you really do? Remember that, as probably Madison, you would also believe that there might be a cure and sooner or later the goverment and CDC will solve things out and maybe, just maybe, your friend there will be okay again. What would you do?

    Belan posted: »

    Go back and read what I said. This wasn't her first encounter with a walker, it was her second, as she had been attacked by Calvin a day pri

  • edited September 2015

    Well, I think AMC made this Spinoff because the people we see in the show might end up meeting Rick's group. I mean, what Spinoff have you seen didn't meet up with Rick's group? I'm going to guess that Rick will meet their group at Mid season or at the end.

    But hey, at least we've got more TWD.

  • Yeah ive wathed all 5 seasons of the walking dead i have the game on android and i have watched both episodes of fear the waling dead so far and tbh i like it its slow paced which is why i like it but the Telltale games are even better :D

  • They made it because of money.

    Well, I think AMC made this Spinoff because the people we see in the show might end up meeting Rick's group. I mean, what Spinoff have you s

  • Boo hoo

    Anthorn posted: »

    Watched it. Felt the characters were dull and boring and had no personality besides the broad characteristics of junkies or educator.

  • Dude your wrong tewuden is right get over it it's dead

    Belan posted: »

    Go back and read what I said. This wasn't her first encounter with a walker, it was her second, as she had been attacked by Calvin a day pri

  • Talk about the shittiest actor/character on the show i hope he dies a most gruesome painful death

    Christopher Manawa is my favorite character so far. There's just something about him that I liked. Hope he survives.

  • They made quite clear thats not happening

    Well, I think AMC made this Spinoff because the people we see in the show might end up meeting Rick's group. I mean, what Spinoff have you s

  • edited December 2015

    How do you know that? It seems very unlikely tbh One example would be the railroad map Lee can examine. On it I think it says it's the ma

  • I read them, there is no mention of any date, like in the show up to this Episode of FTWD. I might have missed something, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing confirming a date. Most people just assume it's 2003, Kirkman probably intended to leave the exact year open.

    That being said, it could be anything from 2003-2005 or 2006 (Lee's railroad map).

  • edited September 2015

    He's one of my least favourite characters, acting dumb and bratty, and so far has no personality but 'parent-defying brat'.

    At least Alicia has some personality, she is handled rather well for a teenage girl character. Her and Nick are decent characters so far, but I don't like Chris.

    Christopher Manawa is my favorite character so far. There's just something about him that I liked. Hope he survives.

  • They already said there won't be crossovers this early (I think they also said not in Season 2 either), but perhaps it will happen in two or so Seasons.

    Well, I think AMC made this Spinoff because the people we see in the show might end up meeting Rick's group. I mean, what Spinoff have you s

  • I agree that the characters probably do not understand that walkers are dead at this point, but that doesn't change anything. It doesn't change how the situation should be handled. Madison still had enough experience to know that these things are very dangerous. That's all that matters in terms of her knowing that she needs to be careful around these things. Walkers being dead or alive has little to do with her knowing that they're dangerous.

    Madison's familiarity with Artie still doesn't make her actions any less stupid. She approached him like nothing was wrong, like there was no serious risk. Holding out hope for him is one thing, it's another to throw yourself into harm's way for no reason. There was no reason that she needed to approach him. If I had been in her exact same position and found that an acquaintance of mine was in the same state that Artie was in, I would sure as hell keep my distance. Again, Madison had already been violently attacked by one of these things. She had seen the brutal effects of these attacks at the church. Walking up to another one while taking absolutely no precautions what so ever was crazy.

    Tewudin posted: »

    Well... in our discussion we forgot about one thing - maybe you're right in a way but you also have to remember that they don't know everyth

  • He's one of my least favourite characters, acting dumb and bratty, and so far has no personality but 'parent-defying brat'.

    "BUT DAD THIS IS IMPORTANT"....no chris

    He's one of my least favourite characters, acting dumb and bratty, and so far has no personality but 'parent-defying brat'. At least Alic

  • edited December 2015

    Well, I think AMC made this Spinoff because the people we see in the show might end up meeting Rick's group. I mean, what Spinoff have you s

  • I guess it's just the matter of seeing things differently. I mean, you see this situation as stupid and you think it should've been handled in a different way. That's okay, it's your opinion. Still, I don't see anything wrong with the said scene but as I said at the beginning it's just point of view. Being dead or alive has little to do? Sure, because everyone in the world are okay with killing another, especially a friend. Even if they believe they are alive you can't expect that "killing" them will be easy for those people. Especially because it's just the very first days/weeks of the outbreak. I know that they are dangerous and all but surely you can think that it'll be easy for those characters to kill "the infected".

    I don't know, I think this discussion won't take us anywhere from this point because we already shared our opinions. :D

    Belan posted: »

    I agree that the characters probably do not understand that walkers are dead at this point, but that doesn't change anything. It doesn't cha

  • No, Erickson said that if he even dared to ask Gimple for crossover he would probably killed him for such idea. It was a joke of course but let's be honest, any crossover is nearly impossible. The Walking Dead takes place around states on East Cost and Fear started in Los Angeles. Geographically it seems to be very very very hard to do a crossover between those two TV shows. They would had to travel through the entire US with probably millions of walkers on their way, probably a few hostile communities and bandit groups too.

    Well, I think AMC made this Spinoff because the people we see in the show might end up meeting Rick's group. I mean, what Spinoff have you s

  • Being dead or alive has little to do? Sure, because everyone in the world are okay with killing another, especially a friend. Even if they believe they are alive you can't expect that "killing" them will be easy for those people.

    You're not really getting the point. I was just talking about threat level. Madison didn't have to know whether Artie was dead or alive in order to know that he was a very real threat.

    I just really don't know what there is to argue about here. She straight up should have known that Artie was a threat, there isn't anything more to it than that.

    Tewudin posted: »

    I guess it's just the matter of seeing things differently. I mean, you see this situation as stupid and you think it should've been handled

  • So we argue now? I thought we were just discussing. Even if she knew that Artie is a threat you can't really, I mean REALLY, expect that first thing that will came to her mind will be "killing him". Besides, as I said already we shared our opinions so there is no point in continuing this conversation don't you think? It'll be over and over the same.

    Belan posted: »

    Being dead or alive has little to do? Sure, because everyone in the world are okay with killing another, especially a friend. Even if they b

  • So we argue now? I thought we were just discussing.

    .. pretty much synonymous.

    Even if she knew that Artie is a threat you can't really, I mean REALLY, expect that first thing that will came to her mind will be "killing him"

    I never said anything about killing him. All she had to do was get away from him/ keep her distance.

    Tewudin posted: »

    So we argue now? I thought we were just discussing. Even if she knew that Artie is a threat you can't really, I mean REALLY, expect that fir

  • edited September 2015

    Maybe you're right but all humans are different and act in different ways. Not everyone will do things as you can expect. You're saying that this situation wasn't handled as it should be. You're saying that she should've done this and this but that's just point of view because there are people who would do something different than what you suggested, those who would act as Madison did, etc.

    Belan posted: »

    So we argue now? I thought we were just discussing. .. pretty much synonymous. Even if she knew that Artie is a threat you can

  • 6 episodes for Season 1, yes. Season 2... for what I remember 13-15 episodes.

  • What I find really confusing in FTWD is that, even though it's supposed to be happening in 2003, people have acces to social media and have smartphones. It bugs me but okay, for the sake of us being able to relate to the show I'll let it slide. I really enjoy it so far and I hope that there will be more than 2 seasons. But them meeting with Rick would be impossible, unless they can also time travel.

  • I think in the WD show and FTWD the apocalypse starts in 2010 whereas in the comics it starts in 2003. Not completely sure though.

    What I find really confusing in FTWD is that, even though it's supposed to be happening in 2003, people have acces to social media and have

  • A new clip has been released! Episode 3 looks like it's gonna be intense
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/VoDo5n0jlqI

  • Of course there are differing point of views, but that doesn't mean all of them make sense. There really isn't any justifying how Madison handled the situation.

    Tewudin posted: »

    Maybe you're right but all humans are different and act in different ways. Not everyone will do things as you can expect. You're saying that

  • Weird? The same situation was with The Walking Dead. :D Season 1 had 6 episodes but Season 2 had 13 episodes.

  • There is no OFFICIAL informations about what year is in comics or TV shows. Only that they take place in modern times. It may happen in 2003 but also 2005, 2010, 2013 and even 2015. I mean, is it really that important? Year when the outbreak started and all the technology?

    What I find really confusing in FTWD is that, even though it's supposed to be happening in 2003, people have acces to social media and have

  • Whether something makes sense to you or not is also just a point of view. Remember that for some people it makes sense to eat human flesh. It's all about survival, yes? At the same time other people see it as cruel and sick. As I said, what makes sense to one person doesn't necessarly have to make sense to someone else.

    Belan posted: »

    Of course there are differing point of views, but that doesn't mean all of them make sense. There really isn't any justifying how Madison handled the situation.

  • edited September 2015

    I'm talking about making sense in a logical sort of way. The idea that everything is just a matter of opinion is kind of lazy.

    In the situation of what we were talking about before, Madison had seen enough evidence to know that walkers are dangerous. Despite that, she acted completely without caution when running into one. She strolled up to it without a care in the world. She should have known better given her past experiences, that's all there really is to it. That's not just a matter of opinion, that's just common sense. She pretty much showed us that she had gained nothing from her past experiences, which is pretty sad, considering she had been straight up attacked by one before, and had seen what they are capable of at the church.

    Tewudin posted: »

    Whether something makes sense to you or not is also just a point of view. Remember that for some people it makes sense to eat human flesh. I

  • If I may ask - why? Just because it is?

  • Eh i think he'll get better soon after shit gets real and saying he's a shit actors a bit harsh

    Talk about the shittiest actor/character on the show i hope he dies a most gruesome painful death

  • You know, I believe I read some interview and interviewer asked them why they didn't decided to create 16 episodes for Season 2 and the reason behind it was exactly what you just said. They didn't wanted the story to feel like it's being dragged out and boring. Although, you're right. I think it would be a bit better if they could create like 10 episodes for Season 2 and then increase maybe to 12-13 episodes in Season 3 just to test if they are able to create what they want without the story being too much dragged out. You know, they still haven't started to record Season 2 so maybe they'll decrease the number of episodes.

  • Suuuure... very weird.

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