If Telltale won't listen to the fans that suggest things to make the better (i.e, bringing hubs back), then I doubt they'll listen to the fans who want Lee alive.
i love how people just say he is dead without proof
We literally watch him die. It doesn't matter if Clementine missed the shot, it doesn't matter if you choose to cut the arm off. All signs point to the shiny black gates of death.
i love how people just say he is dead without proof or even knowing it themselves i believe there is a possibility that Lee could return and… more it would be the most epic thing in the world and would bring a fans and players to tears seeing Lee and Clem reunited i am with you Kennyftw
There was clearly no way out that alley, no matter what you say.
Sewers, windows, he could have even pushed his way through. Kenny's death was originally planned, but they scrapped it and left it open ended before Episode 5 was even released. They're intentions was to reunite him in Season 2 with Clementine. It was their intention for a while, not just some fan service.
There was clearly no way out that alley, no matter what you say.
Kenny is dead on that episode, but Telltale thought it would good to do … morea fanservice season, so they brought him back to life and used him as a plot device — on that, they repeated Kenny's story arc from Season 1 but with russian bandits and snow.
it would Make zero sense. I have noticed that if a character can die (in a episode thats not 5) they will NOT make it to the end. I hope they break this trend in season 3.
So with same logic, Lee didnt die either, because we didnt see it?
Except we did see it.
Lee was still bitten, and we saw him get bitten. Even if Clementine misses the shot or you cut off Lee's arm, there's multiple ways he can die. Blood loss, infection in his stubby arm, and the granddaddy of all, the zombie infection.
You're not really using the same logic as the person above considering Kenny was never bitten, nor did we see him get injured in anyway.
How is being bitten not a problem? Lee getting weaker through the episode and he could possibly be without hand. And despite that he could pass through the herd. Being bitten again for him not a problem, but being eaten is.
You can't tell me that S2 is more realistic. The whole thing was unrealistic given the logic in the game. I mean, Luke falling into the lake at the same exact time as Bonnie, but drowning faster than her while she remained in there for a while? Nope. Clementine having to stitch up her own arm without passing out? Nope. Nick's sudden case of 'the mute' after his determinant death? Nope. Let's not forget that Nick has a fiery temper and has nothing against speaking out. Sarah, who's usually out of danger, standing on the deck watching everyone kill walkers instead of being with Kenny and Rebecca just to position her for her death? Nope. And what I think to be is one of the most unrealistic things; Jane, who's evidently shown that being alone is safer than being in a group, also not showing any attachment to Clementine, suddenly cares about Clem? Big ass nope.
I don't s2 was shit. I know some preferd s1 but I mean, they are just different ya know? s1 was very "normal" while s2 was a mess, something you would actually expect in a zombie apocalypse.
You fail to see the point. We never saw it happen, there for it didnt happen. It doest matter how obvious the outcome was, if they didnt show it, things could've gone differently.
So with same logic, Lee didnt die either, because we didnt see it?
Except we did see it.
Lee was still bitten, and we saw him get… more bitten. Even if Clementine misses the shot or you cut off Lee's arm, there's multiple ways he can die. Blood loss, infection in his stubby arm, and the granddaddy of all, the zombie infection.
You're not really using the same logic as the person above considering Kenny was never bitten, nor did we see him get injured in anyway.
That wasn't their logic, though. That's no where near their logic. Even if we don't look at it from a perspective when we play the game, Telltale still said Lee was always destined to die and that was their plan the entire game.
Besides, we did see him die. We saw him get bit and we know what happens. No one's immune, there's no cure, Lee's dead.
You fail to see the point. We never saw it happen, there for it didnt happen. It doest matter how obvious the outcome was, if they didnt show it, things could've gone differently.
That wasn't their logic, though. That's no where near their logic. Even if we don't look at it from a perspective when we play the game, Tel… moreltale still said Lee was always destined to die and that was their plan the entire game.
Besides, we did see him die. We saw him get bit and we know what happens. No one's immune, there's no cure, Lee's dead.
If Telltale won't listen to the fans that suggest things to make the better (i.e, bringing hubs back), then I doubt they'll listen to the fans who want Lee alive.
If you went to the museum first, you get the chance to talk to Kenny, Rebecca, Bonnie, Luke, Mike, and if she's there, Sarah. You also get the option to give Rebecca the coat right then and there, which counts for something, I suppose.
I think at the most basic level, it counts as a hub. It's not a very complex one, but it's still a moment of downtime where you are able to optionally talk to people.
If you went to the museum first, you get the chance to talk to Kenny, Rebecca, Bonnie, Luke, Mike, and if she's there, Sarah. You also get t… morehe option to give Rebecca the coat right then and there, which counts for something, I suppose.
I think at the most basic level, it counts as a hub. It's not a very complex one, but it's still a moment of downtime where you are able to optionally talk to people.
people just say he is dead without proof or even knowing it themselves
Did you really said these words? This is totally bull***t!!!! Lee is dead, you saw him dying, we saw him!!! Don't give that "But he could have survived by having his arm chopped", it doesn't save nothing, Lee already had infection in his whole body, his arm was chopped in the next hour, not two or three or ten minutes. His was bitten and died. Deal with it.
it would be the most epic thing in the world and would bring a fans and players to tears seeing Lee and Clem reunited!!
I don't think so, it would be the most disappointing choice of the whole franchise, trust me. I would make TT not make anymore TWD seasons
i love how people just say he is dead without proof or even knowing it themselves i believe there is a possibility that Lee could return and… more it would be the most epic thing in the world and would bring a fans and players to tears seeing Lee and Clem reunited i am with you Kennyftw
The proof is the WRITERS FUCKING SAID SO!!!!! Also, I guess you haven't played episode 4 of season 1 because he was bitten at the end. And if you were actually a fan of the Walking Dead series you'd know that once you are bit you are doomed. There is no immunity.
i love how people just say he is dead without proof or even knowing it themselves i believe there is a possibility that Lee could return and… more it would be the most epic thing in the world and would bring a fans and players to tears seeing Lee and Clem reunited i am with you Kennyftw
The biggest problem with bringing Lee back, beyond the fact that we saw him die on screen as there is no cure for the virus in The Walking Dead, is that it goes against the original intent of the project leaders of season one. Jake Rodkin, who was project leader of The Walking Dead: Season One, alongside Sean Vanaman, confirmed that Lee is dead.
That's a completely different scenario from Kenny, as Gavin confirmed that he recorded two lines, one where it was obvious Kenny died, and another where his death was ambiguous. The fact that they used the ambiguous recording shows that Telltale planned for Kenny to be alive, long before season two came out.
In fact, there's really no problem with Kenny's return, except for the fact that it was never explained. This is odd, as even something as simple as "I ran straight through the zombie horde as fast as I could when they were distracted by the gun fire" would have worked a lot better than simply "I got lucky" (and the "lucky" line would have actually worked a lot better in conjunction with the aforementioned line as well).
I don't see how they can justify bringing kenny back, and not Lee though. Both were equally screwed. So i have say it's definitely a possibility we will see Lee again. Who thought we would see Kenny again?
The biggest problem with bringing Lee back, beyond the fact that we saw him die on screen as there is no cure for the virus in The Walking D… moreead, is that it goes against the original intent of the project leaders of season one. Jake Rodkin, who was project leader of The Walking Dead: Season One, alongside Sean Vanaman, confirmed that Lee is dead.
That's a completely different scenario from Kenny, as Gavin confirmed that he recorded two lines, one where it was obvious Kenny died, and another where his death was ambiguous. The fact that they used the ambiguous recording shows that Telltale planned for Kenny to be alive, long before season two came out.
In fact, there's really no problem with Kenny's return, except for the fact that it was never explained. This is odd, as even something as simple as "I ran straight through the zombie horde as fast as I could when they were distracted by the gun fire" would have worked a lot better than s… [view original content]
I don't see how they can justify bringing kenny back, and not Lee though. Both were equally screwed. So i have say it's definitely a possibility we will see Lee again. Who thought we would see Kenny again?
Right, there's a lot of ways Kenny could have escaped. We know it's easy to distract zombies, and a gunshot is a huge distraction. He easily could have ran as fast as he could out of there while they were distracted. Or, there could have been any of a number of other ways that the writers could have come up with to get him out of that alley (but, inexplicably, didn't... I really hope they address that in season three). In season one, they purposely didn't show the scene where Kenny made the gun shot(s) so that they could bring Kenny back in season two (as evidenced by the fact that Gavin confirmed that they had him make two takes of that scene, and they chose to use the take where it wasn't obvious that Kenny died).
On the other hand, there's no way to write a way out of Lee's death, as we actually saw him die on screen since there's no cure for the virus in The Walking Dead universe (plus season one co-project leader Jake Rodkin's post confirmed that Lee's dead, unlike Kenny, who was purposefully left alive by the season one project leaders).
I gotta say what you've said is true. Yet, I was talking about how Telltale made us see how chaotic it would actually turn out to be in a zombie apcalypse. I mean, in my opinion, s2 showed us a lot more panicking situations and disasterous things and stuff... not saying s1 didn't have those as well but it was nothing more than a sad story bettween Lee and Clem. This time there was no "sweet pea", there was no cuteness, there was no nothing. I think that this way Telltale gave us another perspective on what an actual zombie apocalypse can turn into.
You can't tell me that S2 is more realistic. The whole thing was unrealistic given the logic in the game. I mean, Luke falling into the lake… more at the same exact time as Bonnie, but drowning faster than her while she remained in there for a while? Nope. Clementine having to stitch up her own arm without passing out? Nope. Nick's sudden case of 'the mute' after his determinant death? Nope. Let's not forget that Nick has a fiery temper and has nothing against speaking out. Sarah, who's usually out of danger, standing on the deck watching everyone kill walkers instead of being with Kenny and Rebecca just to position her for her death? Nope. And what I think to be is one of the most unrealistic things; Jane, who's evidently shown that being alone is safer than being in a group, also not showing any attachment to Clementine, suddenly cares about Clem? Big ass nope.
Right, there's a lot of ways Kenny could have escaped. We know it's easy to distract zombies, and a gunshot is a huge distraction. He easi… morely could have ran as fast as he could out of there while they were distracted. Or, there could have been any of a number of other ways that the writers could have come up with to get him out of that alley (but, inexplicably, didn't... I really hope they address that in season three). In season one, they purposely didn't show the scene where Kenny made the gun shot(s) so that they could bring Kenny back in season two (as evidenced by the fact that Gavin confirmed that they had him make two takes of that scene, and they chose to use the take where it wasn't obvious that Kenny died).
On the other hand, there's no way to write a way out of Lee's death, as we actually saw him die on screen since there's no cure for the virus in The Walking Dead universe (plus season one co-project leader Jake Rodkin's pos… [view original content]
This reminds me of a video on a YouTube that said. "If Lee was brought back, for some stupid reason some people would be pissed, but a lot more others would be happy. I'd be happy. Lee Everett is precious." If he comes back. I won't complain. That's for sure. xD
I don't see how they can justify bringing kenny back, and not Lee though. Both were equally screwed. So i have say it's definitely a possibility we will see Lee again. Who thought we would see Kenny again?
Don't see why they'd bring him back, he's either still handcuffed as a walker or has a bullet hole in his face.
The only way to have him back is have a flashback like in season 2 episode 5. It'd only be a brief cameo, nothing more or a mention about his existence by characters.
Time to let this one go, R.I.P Lee, we have mourned.
I really wish one of the Telltale staff would come out from the shadows and just straight up say in the forums, "Lee is dead. He isn't coming back. There is no cure. Bringing him back would be stupid. Robert Kirkman would hate us for even thinking about it", just to stop all this nonsense.
I really wish one of the Telltale staff would come out from the shadows and just straight up say in the forums, "Lee is dead. He isn't comin… moreg back. There is no cure. Bringing him back would be stupid. Robert Kirkman would hate us for even thinking about it", just to stop all this nonsense.
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If Telltale won't listen to the fans that suggest things to make the better (i.e, bringing hubs back), then I doubt they'll listen to the fans who want Lee alive.
We literally watch him die. It doesn't matter if Clementine missed the shot, it doesn't matter if you choose to cut the arm off. All signs point to the shiny black gates of death.
Lee's dead. Move on.
Sewers, windows, he could have even pushed his way through. Kenny's death was originally planned, but they scrapped it and left it open ended before Episode 5 was even released. They're intentions was to reunite him in Season 2 with Clementine. It was their intention for a while, not just some fan service.
Chet, and maybe Andrew St. John if you theorize.
Except we did see it.
Lee was still bitten, and we saw him get bitten. Even if Clementine misses the shot or you cut off Lee's arm, there's multiple ways he can die. Blood loss, infection in his stubby arm, and the granddaddy of all, the zombie infection.
You're not really using the same logic as the person above considering Kenny was never bitten, nor did we see him get injured in anyway.
Being eaten would be a problem, yeah. But being bitten, or in this case 'nabbed', wouldn't have been an issue since he's already infected.
You can't tell me that S2 is more realistic. The whole thing was unrealistic given the logic in the game. I mean, Luke falling into the lake at the same exact time as Bonnie, but drowning faster than her while she remained in there for a while? Nope. Clementine having to stitch up her own arm without passing out? Nope. Nick's sudden case of 'the mute' after his determinant death? Nope. Let's not forget that Nick has a fiery temper and has nothing against speaking out. Sarah, who's usually out of danger, standing on the deck watching everyone kill walkers instead of being with Kenny and Rebecca just to position her for her death? Nope. And what I think to be is one of the most unrealistic things; Jane, who's evidently shown that being alone is safer than being in a group, also not showing any attachment to Clementine, suddenly cares about Clem? Big ass nope.
You fail to see the point. We never saw it happen, there for it didnt happen. It doest matter how obvious the outcome was, if they didnt show it, things could've gone differently.
It's like a train wreck!
Why does there have to be threads about Lee coming back. He's not coming back.
That wasn't their logic, though. That's no where near their logic. Even if we don't look at it from a perspective when we play the game, Telltale still said Lee was always destined to die and that was their plan the entire game.
Besides, we did see him die. We saw him get bit and we know what happens. No one's immune, there's no cure, Lee's dead.
It doest really matter what you say. We didnt see him die.
To be fair, they kind of brought hubs back for episode 4. I mean, only sort of, but hey, it's the effort that counts, right?
Whatever, believe whatever bullshit you want. I don't care.
I don't remember hubs in episode 4. Unless you are referring to season 1.
If they mean season 2 I remember there was a little bit where you could talk to Rebecca....but that's all I remember I need to replay it
I think it could work. Nicholas was on top of him when he was bitten right? (hahahahahaha)
If you went to the museum first, you get the chance to talk to Kenny, Rebecca, Bonnie, Luke, Mike, and if she's there, Sarah. You also get the option to give Rebecca the coat right then and there, which counts for something, I suppose.
I think at the most basic level, it counts as a hub. It's not a very complex one, but it's still a moment of downtime where you are able to optionally talk to people.
The idea of bringing back Lee would be worse than bringing back Cortana. It would cheapen the emotional value of his death
hehe.
Gotta disagree with you there, I actually thought it was quite brilliant how they brought her back. I think everyone expected she would anyway.
i beat it once, so my memory of the game isn't the best.
Did you really said these words? This is totally bull***t!!!! Lee is dead, you saw him dying, we saw him!!! Don't give that "But he could have survived by having his arm chopped", it doesn't save nothing, Lee already had infection in his whole body, his arm was chopped in the next hour, not two or three or ten minutes. His was bitten and died. Deal with it.
I don't think so, it would be the most disappointing choice of the whole franchise, trust me. I would make TT not make anymore TWD seasons
The proof is the WRITERS FUCKING SAID SO!!!!! Also, I guess you haven't played episode 4 of season 1 because he was bitten at the end. And if you were actually a fan of the Walking Dead series you'd know that once you are bit you are doomed. There is no immunity.
The biggest problem with bringing Lee back, beyond the fact that we saw him die on screen as there is no cure for the virus in The Walking Dead, is that it goes against the original intent of the project leaders of season one. Jake Rodkin, who was project leader of The Walking Dead: Season One, alongside Sean Vanaman, confirmed that Lee is dead.
That's a completely different scenario from Kenny, as Gavin confirmed that he recorded two lines, one where it was obvious Kenny died, and another where his death was ambiguous. The fact that they used the ambiguous recording shows that Telltale planned for Kenny to be alive, long before season two came out.
In fact, there's really no problem with Kenny's return, except for the fact that it was never explained. This is odd, as even something as simple as "I ran straight through the zombie horde as fast as I could when they were distracted by the gun fire" would have worked a lot better than simply "I got lucky" (and the "lucky" line would have actually worked a lot better in conjunction with the aforementioned line as well).
I don't see how they can justify bringing kenny back, and not Lee though. Both were equally screwed. So i have say it's definitely a possibility we will see Lee again. Who thought we would see Kenny again?
They were NOT equally screwed. Lee got bitten , Kenny didn't.
Right, there's a lot of ways Kenny could have escaped. We know it's easy to distract zombies, and a gunshot is a huge distraction. He easily could have ran as fast as he could out of there while they were distracted. Or, there could have been any of a number of other ways that the writers could have come up with to get him out of that alley (but, inexplicably, didn't... I really hope they address that in season three). In season one, they purposely didn't show the scene where Kenny made the gun shot(s) so that they could bring Kenny back in season two (as evidenced by the fact that Gavin confirmed that they had him make two takes of that scene, and they chose to use the take where it wasn't obvious that Kenny died).
On the other hand, there's no way to write a way out of Lee's death, as we actually saw him die on screen since there's no cure for the virus in The Walking Dead universe (plus season one co-project leader Jake Rodkin's post confirmed that Lee's dead, unlike Kenny, who was purposefully left alive by the season one project leaders).
Bravo man! Made my day, that's for sure.
I gotta say what you've said is true. Yet, I was talking about how Telltale made us see how chaotic it would actually turn out to be in a zombie apcalypse. I mean, in my opinion, s2 showed us a lot more panicking situations and disasterous things and stuff... not saying s1 didn't have those as well but it was nothing more than a sad story bettween Lee and Clem. This time there was no "sweet pea", there was no cuteness, there was no nothing. I think that this way Telltale gave us another perspective on what an actual zombie apocalypse can turn into.
Bringing Kenny back was a mistake. It negated his sacrifice that redeemed his character in season 1.
It's like saying goodbye to your dog. Let the dead rest!!!!!!!!!!
This reminds me of a video on a YouTube that said. "If Lee was brought back, for some stupid reason some people would be pissed, but a lot more others would be happy. I'd be happy. Lee Everett is precious." If he comes back. I won't complain. That's for sure. xD
I didn't. I thought he was dead for 2 years. When I saw him alive I was like a giddy schoolgirl on adderall. Best 12 seconds on my life.
Don't see why they'd bring him back, he's either still handcuffed as a walker or has a bullet hole in his face.
The only way to have him back is have a flashback like in season 2 episode 5. It'd only be a brief cameo, nothing more or a mention about his existence by characters.
Time to let this one go, R.I.P Lee, we have mourned.
Guys.... we all know that Lee crawled under the dumpster.
I really wish one of the Telltale staff would come out from the shadows and just straight up say in the forums, "Lee is dead. He isn't coming back. There is no cure. Bringing him back would be stupid. Robert Kirkman would hate us for even thinking about it", just to stop all this nonsense.
telltale staff have confirmed his death, so your wish came true (years ago)
Oh. Well do it again.
:P