What happend to Mike, Bonnie, and Arvo? EP5 SPOILERS

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  • edited September 2015

    After the stunt they pulled with the truck and supplies, I don't see any way for them to redeem themselves if they show up in S3.

    I remember when some youtubers called Mike a ''new Lee'' when ATR was out (as if! No one can replace Lee), but then he turned into a savior of a true shitbird, he got shot because of Arvo (and Jane), for fuck's sake!!!

    I'm not gonna say anything about Arvo except that I won't let him live if there is a chance. Quick and painless or slow and painful death, it doesn't matter. I'll fucking kill you Arvo!!!

    Bonnie is dead in my game, I don't have any remorse. If she gets a better death I might replay the lake scene. God, how I wish I could sacrifice Jane and Bonnie just to bring back FRICKING MOLLY!

    Oh, and I hope that I can do this to at least one of them in S3:

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  • I honestly couldn't give two shits about Mike. He was easily one of the most bland and forgettable characters in the entire series. As for Arvo, I used to feel sympathy towards him because of the death of his sister and Kenny's abusive behavior towards him, but after shooting Clementine, I was actually hoping Kenny would beat the shit out of him until his fucking lungs collapsed. As for Bonnie, I can tell she wasn't neccecarily on board with the whole thing, but everyone was just so desperate to get away from Kenny. And who can blame her? Kenny was unstable and just simply wasn't safe to be around. As much as I love Kenny, I think putting him down during the fight at the rest stop was the best choice for the reasons that I just described.

  • These guys need to die. I can't believe how much stupid Mike and Bonnie were to trust a boy who caused an ambush which almost killed them. I got Bonnie killed and I wished I had the option to kill Mike but Telltale changed that shit for no reason. ARVO SHOULD BURN IN HELL!!!

  • Mike and Bonnie hooked up, got married in Texas and adopted Arvo as their child from Russia with love.

  • you forgot to mention walter.. his death was her fault and he gave her food!

  • They went to visit the zoo!

  • That upcoming DLC would be 11/10 worth it if Michonne or whatever her name is kills Arvo omg.

  • I believe Kenny said in the truck that they "ran off" into the woods or something.

  • That Emily moment made me shit myself

    gomatamo posted: »

    After the stunt they pulled with the truck and supplies, I don't see any way for them to redeem themselves if they show up in S3. I remem

  • Arvo uses his leg power armor to develop the first TWDG version of Power Armor. We call it The KGB1

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Mike and Bonnie hooked up, got married in Texas and adopted Arvo as their child from Russia with love.

  • Arvo got eaten, and Mike got killed when Bonnie betrayed him.. Of course before the betrayal she told him how she wanted to be a better person.

  • I'm with you, I just want a chance to kill Arvo that little motherfu****, and Mike to, I could not kill Mike because my game version didn't let me do it!

    gomatamo posted: »

    After the stunt they pulled with the truck and supplies, I don't see any way for them to redeem themselves if they show up in S3. I remem

  • I was not a fan of Arvo or Bonnie, but I like Mike a little. At least when Arvo shot Clem, Mike tried to help, but Bonnie pulled him away.

    MaconMajr posted: »

    Mike and Bonnie are two I'm hoping will come back into the fold. This is my opinion and I'm sticking with it. Mike and Bonnie were decent

  • Okay, I totally dig that. Especially the betrayal part.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Arvo got eaten, and Mike got killed when Bonnie betrayed him.. Of course before the betrayal she told him how she wanted to be a better person.

  • The irony because Bonnie and Molly have the same voice actress.

    gomatamo posted: »

    After the stunt they pulled with the truck and supplies, I don't see any way for them to redeem themselves if they show up in S3. I remem

  • Yeah, I know. If you try to save Luke, Bonnie will express concern. And not if you don't help Luke.

    But, I think Bonnie means well, she just lacks...something.

    Asim_ posted: »

    I was not a fan of Arvo or Bonnie, but I like Mike a little. At least when Arvo shot Clem, Mike tried to help, but Bonnie pulled him away.

  • She can also die so she died in mine

    Asim_ posted: »

    I was not a fan of Arvo or Bonnie, but I like Mike a little. At least when Arvo shot Clem, Mike tried to help, but Bonnie pulled him away.

  • I want them all dead -- I mean Bonnie in my game is dead already, so that's not an issue anyway, she was bossy, all the time pretending to be nice, but she would have sacrificed Clem in a second if that meant saving Luke >< there were times when I didn't like Luke, but in the end, he did everything to protect Clem and for that he has my respect. But Bonnie? She's a bitch and I'm glad I let her die.

    Mike, I actually liked him at first, he was funny and kind of human and normal while all the others freaked out all the time, but then ... stealing from his own people! The people that stood by his side the whole time! That's just vile and pathetic! And I will gladly let him die if I see him again.

    Arvo ... don't even get me started on him. I never stole from him because it just felt so wrong and Clem is not a bitch who would do that and she even stood up for him (in my first version) and HE STILL SHOT HER???? are you fucking kidding me? That guy will die! I don't care if he's just some stupid and scared teenager but he WILL DIE! And it will be at my hands if I get the chance.

  • Does anyone understand why after Arvo shoots clementine that she sees Lee? Is that just like a flashback or is she just seeing him while she's unconscious?

  • edited July 2016

    Probably a plot twist, I think its a combination of her having a flash back after she becomes unconscious.

  • It could be either. In the scene with Kenny driving the pickup with Clem in the back, we get the impression she was unconscious. She could have went into shock though when she was shot. Nice how Telltale glossed over her bullet wound. I assume Kenny and Jane patched her up, but it would have needed attention later and she couldn't be struggling with them while they fight...

  • I hope they all show up in season 3 so Clem can torture and kill them all.

  • I loved Bonnie and Mike did start to grow on me (until he abandoned us) but I'm pretty sure they are all dead as Bonnie can drown and there was an option to shoot Mike even if it was a glitch and didn't actually work. Shame though, I wanted my Clem to go with them after Luke died so I would love to see them again.

    I don't care about Arvo though. He shot Clem. Enough said.

  • edited July 2016

    Bonnie = Determinant

    Arvo and Mike since they're unknown they might be killed or mike survives finding another group or a place like wellington, because there' gonna be 0% chance that arvo will survive with that leg, he just got lucky mike saved his ass last time

  • My reaction when I see them again:

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  • So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death? He's just a kid too, ya'know.

    Heck, I wouldn't even hold it against Mike, Arvo, and Bonnie for wanting to leave -- they probably would have been better caretakers than Kenny and Jane anyway. (It's like with the Lilly situation and the RV if you don't ditch her on the side of the road.)

  • So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death?

    yes

    Auruo posted: »

    So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death? He's just a kid

  • Jesus Christ, I'm reading through what everyone's saying and.... y'all are absolutely terrifying. This is Lilly from S1 all over again, you guys want to murder a young, grieving teenager who just lost his sister A DAY AGO; they both made rash decisions that they probably regret, but I honestly don't blame Arvo or Lilly. Think about it, Arvo never saw that his sister had turned, the only thing he did see was Clementine kill his thought-to-be alive sister. These people had every right to leave the group at the end of S2 and Arvo had every right to shoot Clementine. He could've easily killed her right then and there, but he didn't. Bonnie and Mike both felt that Kenny was becoming extremely dangerous, and Arvo was ruthlessly BEATEN by Kenny on multiple occasions even after complying to his demands. The only decision that I think they shouldn't have made was not letting me come with them.

  • I think that was due more to his inexperience with handling a gun. He didn't know Jane and Clem from Adam and he let them get the jump on him and take his gun away before. You could tell he wasn't confident or comfortable with a gun both times he turned one on Clem.

    I agree Bonnie, Mike, and Arvo had every right to leave, but they should have asked Clementine and Jane to come with them or only took half and food and supplies. You have to admit taking everything was pretty heartless, especially if you tried to reach Luke. Then Bonnie is cool with you, but she still leaves you to starve?? Poor writing.

    Auruo posted: »

    So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death? He's just a kid

  • This and, at the very least, they're all determinantly apologetic about Clem getting shot (in Arvo's case, body language is what counts).

    Chromid posted: »

    Jesus Christ, I'm reading through what everyone's saying and.... y'all are absolutely terrifying. This is Lilly from S1 all over again, you

  • edited July 2016

    There is no justifying arvos actions, he chose to shoot a child. Thats just evil, Lilly at the very least was being wound up. In most scenarios while tense arvo escalated the situation furthur.

    I can somewhat understand a defence for lilly, though its still a horrible act. But there is no reason to care about arvo or defend his horrific actions

    grieving teenager who just lost his sister A DAY AGO

    Considering she died attacking us I have little sympathy. Also arvo leading them to us also reduces my sympathy. I didnt hate arvo particularly for what he did, but I had little patience for him

    These people had every right to leave the group at the end of S2

    Yes, though they could have been a bit more reasonable about it, particularly with the amount of supplies they took and the van.

    and Arvo had every right to shoot Clementine.

    WHAT?

    He could've easily killed her right then and there, but he didn't.

    But he did try to..... I mean clementine surviving that gunshot is purely because of the plot, she was shot in the shoulder with a high powered rifle at fairly close range.

    Arvo was ruthlessly BEATEN by Kenny on multiple occasions even after complying to his demands.

    So that justifies child murder ( a child unrelated to the beatings?)

    As such once again, arvo is one of the worst people in season 2

    Chromid posted: »

    Jesus Christ, I'm reading through what everyone's saying and.... y'all are absolutely terrifying. This is Lilly from S1 all over again, you

  • Arvo decided to shoot Clementine after she had been disarmed. He shot her b/c he was still angry about his sister, and at least in my game, I stood up for Kenny most of the time when he mistreated Arvo. But the fact that Clementine no longer posed a threat to Arvo, Mike or Bonnie and the three of them took all of the groups provisionsand the car that Kenny fixed, knowing they had a baby with them--yes, Arvo and the rest deserve to be punished. Now, would I actually follow through if Clem sees them again, probably not. But I wouldn't go out of my way to help them in any fashion either.

    Auruo posted: »

    So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death? He's just a kid

  • edited July 2016

    Arvo had every right to shoot Clementine

    My reaction when you said that:

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    What do you mean he was right to shoot Clementine? What did Clementine do to him? She didn't rob him in my play yet he accused her for that even though it didn't happen. Coming for his gun? Jane took his fucking gun, he had no reason to accuse Clem and her group who didn't even met him yet. He said "I told them you're the ones who robbed me, they think it's funny you're just a little girl", he didn't say "I came for my gun, where is that woman you were with, Clementine?". Why the fuck would he care about a stupid gun? He had medicine which is more useful for people to live.

    just lost his sister A DAY AGO

    SIGHS Because of his actions, she died as a walker trying to kill me. He ambushed us first, not Clem. And had no reason to blame her and how did he not notice that his sister's skin was rotten?

    He could've easily killed her right then and there, but he didn't

    He tried but he missed because the Plot forced him to not do that. Without the power of the plot, Clem would have died and end the series. THANKS TO YOU.

    Arvo was ruthlessly BEATEN by Kenny on multiple occasions even after complying to his demands

    That's not a reason for him to shoot Clem. He would have done that anyway, if you play episode 5 again, you'll see that Arvo stares badly at Clementine twice before he was even beaten up.

    Chromid posted: »

    Jesus Christ, I'm reading through what everyone's saying and.... y'all are absolutely terrifying. This is Lilly from S1 all over again, you

  • So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death?

    Yes. The only reason why didn't simply kill her is because of the plot.

    He's just a kid too

    I DON'T CARE!!! Anyone who hurts Clementine around, doing that on purpose is FUCKING dead.

    Auruo posted: »

    So, just because Arvo shot Clementine in the shoulder, when he could have easily shot to kill her, means he deserves death? He's just a kid

  • I'm guessing they missed the part where you said it looked to Arvo as though Clem shot his living sister in cold blood when she had actually turned into a walker.

    I'm too tired to discuss this further for today. Let me think what they want.

    Chromid posted: »

    Jesus Christ, I'm reading through what everyone's saying and.... y'all are absolutely terrifying. This is Lilly from S1 all over again, you

  • Oh please he is beyond stupid for thinking that, its still all his fault for her being there in the first place

    I'm guessing they missed the part where you said it looked to Arvo as though Clem shot his living sister in cold blood when she had actually turned into a walker. I'm too tired to discuss this further for today. Let me think what they want.

  • Did you know that the translation of the dialogue tells us that both Arvo and Natasha opposed to the idea of ambushing the group, while Vitali stayed neutral, and Buricko pushed all of them into it? Natasha and Arvo yell for Buricko to back up, but he is the one who ultimately decides to fire his assault rifle, and that is the only reason why the firefight breaks loose. Kenny the dead eye shot—okay, pun intended—then managed to shoot Buricko in the leg and Natasha in the chest, so we have no proof that she died attacking us.

    The video of the translation was taken down. Hopefully @MarijaaNo7 can help?

    There is no justifying arvos actions, he chose to shoot a child. Thats just evil, Lilly at the very least was being wound up. In most scenar

  • Arvo leads them to us with the intention to rob, nobody is there without him.

    Arvo mocks clementine and her group (either im sorry clementine you were kind (dumb) or that she deserves it for robbing him)

    All they try to do is stop them shooting, thats not them against the robbery, just actually shooting our group.

    I dont buy this theory that arvo wanted nothing to do with his own group.

    Did you know that the translation of the dialogue tells us that both Arvo and Natasha opposed to the idea of ambushing the group, while Vita

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