Though I'm not so cold as to want them to die right away, I'm hoping that Telltale will reduce both Kenny and Jane's screen-time to allow fo… morer other characters to contribute to the story and explore their backstories without needlessly killing them off for drama.
If you start fight with him and apologize in next episode he will defend you to Frostfinger, if you wont apologize he wont. If you will apol… moreogize you can decide to take him with you or not (which can result either with him dead or alive at the Wall), if you dont apologize he doesnt show up and you leave just wth Cotter. That is in my opinion well handled character considering how they handled them before.
I'm 100 percent that we won't see either of those characters, they could kill them to make the endings match up but that would upset Kenny or Jane fans who want those endings to stick. Most likely they will try find some other character we know to be the protagonist(they can't start from scratch, they'll want to have some connection to something we know)
No, it isn't. That's an example of your current relationship being influenced by your choices, not the handling of the character themself after they are made determinant - namely the handling of Finn if he comes with you vs if he stays back.
I think he just means how Finn can even travel north with Garred and Cotter.
If you arnt friends with Finn, he wont help Garred and he wont even show up at all, if you are he will defend Garred and appear to come along, and if you sided with Finn in episode 2, he already acts like a friend and Cotter is the one mad at you in episode 3.
But yeah, Finn's death if you take him North was really bad.
No, it isn't. That's an example of your current relationship being influenced by your choices, not the handling of the character themself after they are made determinant - namely the handling of Finn if he comes with you vs if he stays back.
How would you say they were handled badly in Tales? (I haven't played Tales or GOT really, though I've watched playthroughs of Tales' first two episodes.) I'm curious.
Yeah but she's at least a playable character, Kenny is Telltale's most frequently recurring character EVER - he's had his time in the sun and that time is now over.
EVER? You state that like this is some long series. It's pretty sad that someone surviving as long as Kenny is considered an incredible achievement. Well considering the way Telltale kills everyone except for the least likely to actually to survive I guess it is a big deal.
Yeah but she's at least a playable character, Kenny is Telltale's most frequently recurring character EVER - he's had his time in the sun and that time is now over.
EVER? You state that like this is some long series. It's pretty sad that someone surviving as long as Kenny is considered an incredible ac… morehievement. Well considering the way Telltale kills everyone except for the least likely to actually to survive I guess it is a big deal.
I think Telltale wanted to know if we wanted to keep Kenny around or not with "No Going Back", I hope the people who decided to keep him actually get to have him around for a while.
Yeah but she's at least a playable character, Kenny is Telltale's most frequently recurring character EVER - he's had his time in the sun and that time is now over.
I'd be mad if they did. No I'm not a fan of Kenny but he is a major character in the first two seasons so he deserves one. At least to redeem for his actions as well.
I've come to terms with the fact that Kenny will probably die over the course of season 3 (if we're lucky, maybe he'll make it past episode … more1)
All I ask for now, is that they give him an emotional death...chances are, if we decided to stay with Kenny over Jane, it's because we like the character (in my case, I think he's my favorite) and wouldn't wanna see him get bit and then just lost in a herd of walkers
I say (if he has to die, because like everyone else, I'm hoping Telltale comes through and starts keeping determinants alive) have him get bit, then go to a safe area where he can have a talk with Clem about what happened and who should be the one to kill Kenny (probably could be a major choice in the episode whether you can shoot Kenny or refuse to), leading to an emotional goodbye, possibly with a mention of how he'll finally get to be with Duck and Katjaa again
Don't just throw Kenny away, Telltale! If he's gotta die, then rip my heart out with his farewell scene
Lol there's no way that will happen. Unless you want to pay three times the price of a normal Telltale game, because you're essentially asking for three different games.
Lol there's no way that will happen. Unless you want to pay three times the price of a normal Telltale game, because you're essentially asking for three different games.
Ahh...well, I already did watch two different entire playthroughs of the first episode, and one entire playthrough of the second episode, so I did give it a shot already. Idk what it is; I've heard a lot of good things about it especially on these forums, but (and I know people will disagree with me, but I can't help it) the story just really doesn't draw me in or have me engaged at all for some reason. I watched those playthroughs at the request of a friend who was urging me to give it a shot, and I really want to like the game, but I'd frankly be lying if I said I truly enjoyed watching them. Although the humor is really good and that's the best thing going for it imo from what I've seen (and the music was killer, I'll give them that too), for some reason watching those playthroughs for me was almost like pulling teeth; the game's just a bit "meh" to me overall and didn't have me interested to keep watching more playthroughs or to ever buy and play the game itself. :shrug: Honestly I wish I knew exactly why I felt that way. I guess it's just not my cup of tea.
...I might give GoT a look though; I think that'd be more up my alley. I haven't really watched any playthroughs on that yet.
Game 1 release date: Apr 24, 2012. Game 2 release date: Dec 17, 2013. 1 year 8 months between the two games. We are approaching 2016, and no idea when the next game will be released.
The long wait time now between seasons is likely in part to a) the large amount of other projects Telltale has, and b) Michonne, certainly not evidence that Kenny will be in every episode.
Game 1 release date: Apr 24, 2012. Game 2 release date: Dec 17, 2013. 1 year 8 months between the two games. We are approaching 2016, and no idea when the next game will be released.
I'm talking about times between episodes.
The long wait time now between seasons is likely in part to a) the large amount of other projects Telltale has, and b) Michonne, certainly not evidence that Kenny will be in every episode.
I think Telltale might push the boat out here. They DID say S3 was going to be 'considerably larger', so what is that consisted of having 2/3 different stories, I.e with Kenny, Jane or Alone (I think they'd tie Wellington back in with Kenny... just go with it for now). This might not mean all season, but at least the first 2 or 3 episodes might have your chosen character, before meeting their fate, 2nd time around. And I think, story wise, they'll tie up all 3 stories come the 3rd or 4th episode.
I've come to terms with the fact that Kenny will probably die over the course of season 3 (if we're lucky, maybe he'll make it past episode … more1)
All I ask for now, is that they give him an emotional death...chances are, if we decided to stay with Kenny over Jane, it's because we like the character (in my case, I think he's my favorite) and wouldn't wanna see him get bit and then just lost in a herd of walkers
I say (if he has to die, because like everyone else, I'm hoping Telltale comes through and starts keeping determinants alive) have him get bit, then go to a safe area where he can have a talk with Clem about what happened and who should be the one to kill Kenny (probably could be a major choice in the episode whether you can shoot Kenny or refuse to), leading to an emotional goodbye, possibly with a mention of how he'll finally get to be with Duck and Katjaa again
Don't just throw Kenny away, Telltale! If he's gotta die, then rip my heart out with his farewell scene
I think the best way for Kenny to permanently leave the series is to have an unknown status in season 3 or stick to the staying in Wellington ending of season 2. If Kenny is killed onscreen in season 3 then at least with my other save where Clem stayed in Wellington, his fate is left a mystery. I'd stick to that with knowing he could still be alive wherever he is
I've come to terms with the fact that Kenny will probably die over the course of season 3 (if we're lucky, maybe he'll make it past episode … more1)
All I ask for now, is that they give him an emotional death...chances are, if we decided to stay with Kenny over Jane, it's because we like the character (in my case, I think he's my favorite) and wouldn't wanna see him get bit and then just lost in a herd of walkers
I say (if he has to die, because like everyone else, I'm hoping Telltale comes through and starts keeping determinants alive) have him get bit, then go to a safe area where he can have a talk with Clem about what happened and who should be the one to kill Kenny (probably could be a major choice in the episode whether you can shoot Kenny or refuse to), leading to an emotional goodbye, possibly with a mention of how he'll finally get to be with Duck and Katjaa again
Don't just throw Kenny away, Telltale! If he's gotta die, then rip my heart out with his farewell scene
Yes i'd love to see determinant characters last a full season and not just one or two episodes before being killed. Not just that but to still have an important role in the game and not just become background characters like Nick became after A House Divided
There's a chance Telltale will get better with their detriment characters. I'd like to think S2 was just testing the waters with this upgrad… moreed engine and new writers. Y'know to see what the people like and dislike and what they could pull off. Seeing as how GOT has so many detrimental choices going on through to S2, maybe Telltale has what it takes to make our choices matter.
....or they could just abandon S1 & S2 choices with a whole new story.
Yes i agree. I really want new characters to be given development this season. Hopefully they will let us have more interaction/talking options for the characters in season 3
Though I'm not so cold as to want them to die right away, I'm hoping that Telltale will reduce both Kenny and Jane's screen-time to allow fo… morer other characters to contribute to the story and explore their backstories without needlessly killing them off for drama.
The thing is im pretty sure telltale said our ending choices will carry over into season 3. But if they do i can't see them making 3 or 4 completely different scenarios for episode 1 of the next season
I'm 100 percent that we won't see either of those characters, they could kill them to make the endings match up but that would upset Kenny o… morer Jane fans who want those endings to stick. Most likely they will try find some other character we know to be the protagonist(they can't start from scratch, they'll want to have some connection to something we know)
I have high hopes for S3 (and Michonne) to be much better with character interaction/development
All three of their recent series have been doing quite well in this regard. Surprisingly enough, Minecraft has a ton of hub areas in the third and fourth episodes in particular. And they're not just one-note conversations like in TWD S2 where it's basically "Are you okay?""Yes.""Okay.", they're fairly extensive.
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Yes i agree. I really want new characters to be given development this season. Hopefully they will let us have more interaction/talking options for the characters in season 3
Ben had potential of being the longest determinant character in one season to go almost a full season but as soon as Christa and Omid showed up, he was axed to make room. Sad really because given they threw away Christa and Omid at the start of the new season, Ben could've paved the way for determinant characters surviving a full season. It's pretty much telltales way of saying "Hey, you had a good run, but we have no future plans for you, so we are going to have the choice of killing you or leaving you then kill you off automatically in the next episode".
Yes i'd love to see determinant characters last a full season and not just one or two episodes before being killed. Not just that but to sti… morell have an important role in the game and not just become background characters like Nick became after A House Divided
I mean...Kenny and Jane are important to the story. They helped shape the endings, so they have to be important in Season 3 and I think Telltale knows that. They already learned the lesson that if a character is determinant, it doesn't mean they need to be killed off later lol.
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I was kind of disappointed with season 2, they killed off all the characters for drama. Poor writing if you ask me.
That's not a determinancy?
I'm 100 percent that we won't see either of those characters, they could kill them to make the endings match up but that would upset Kenny or Jane fans who want those endings to stick. Most likely they will try find some other character we know to be the protagonist(they can't start from scratch, they'll want to have some connection to something we know)
I don't think it will matter because I hope we play as new characters.
Seeing that season 3 will be played ''from a different angle'', probably, yeah.
Probably yeah to what now?
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BUT I NEED KENNY!!!!
It is.
No, it isn't. That's an example of your current relationship being influenced by your choices, not the handling of the character themself after they are made determinant - namely the handling of Finn if he comes with you vs if he stays back.
Oh well
You got him for 9 out of ten episodes, I'm sure you'll survive
I think he just means how Finn can even travel north with Garred and Cotter.
If you arnt friends with Finn, he wont help Garred and he wont even show up at all, if you are he will defend Garred and appear to come along, and if you sided with Finn in episode 2, he already acts like a friend and Cotter is the one mad at you in episode 3.
But yeah, Finn's death if you take him North was really bad.
I'd say they're handled well, much better than TWD season 2 I think. You should give TFTB a shot.
We had Clementine every episode. I think if she's not in this game it will be ok.
Yeah but she's at least a playable character, Kenny is Telltale's most frequently recurring character EVER - he's had his time in the sun and that time is now over.
EVER? You state that like this is some long series. It's pretty sad that someone surviving as long as Kenny is considered an incredible achievement. Well considering the way Telltale kills everyone except for the least likely to actually to survive I guess it is a big deal.
Yeah, ever in all of their games, he's had a significant role in more episodes than any NPC.
I think Telltale wanted to know if we wanted to keep Kenny around or not with "No Going Back", I hope the people who decided to keep him actually get to have him around for a while.
Actually I'd like him to be around for the remainder of the series, just like Clem. That's why I hope Telltale makes three different Seasons for 3.
I'd be mad if they did. No I'm not a fan of Kenny but he is a major character in the first two seasons so he deserves one. At least to redeem for his actions as well.
Lol there's no way that will happen. Unless you want to pay three times the price of a normal Telltale game, because you're essentially asking for three different games.
Yeah, I know it'll most likely not happen, but one can dream. XD
Ahh...well, I already did watch two different entire playthroughs of the first episode, and one entire playthrough of the second episode, so I did give it a shot already. Idk what it is; I've heard a lot of good things about it especially on these forums, but (and I know people will disagree with me, but I can't help it) the story just really doesn't draw me in or have me engaged at all for some reason. I watched those playthroughs at the request of a friend who was urging me to give it a shot, and I really want to like the game, but I'd frankly be lying if I said I truly enjoyed watching them. Although the humor is really good and that's the best thing going for it imo from what I've seen (and the music was killer, I'll give them that too), for some reason watching those playthroughs for me was almost like pulling teeth; the game's just a bit "meh" to me overall and didn't have me interested to keep watching more playthroughs or to ever buy and play the game itself. :shrug: Honestly I wish I knew exactly why I felt that way. I guess it's just not my cup of tea.
...I might give GoT a look though; I think that'd be more up my alley. I haven't really watched any playthroughs on that yet.
That'd either triple wait times or divide play length by three which is certainly not a price i'd like to pay!
We'll see what Telltale has in store. I hope they can content all of their fans.
Game 1 release date: Apr 24, 2012. Game 2 release date: Dec 17, 2013. 1 year 8 months between the two games. We are approaching 2016, and no idea when the next game will be released.
I'm talking about times between episodes.
The long wait time now between seasons is likely in part to a) the large amount of other projects Telltale has, and b) Michonne, certainly not evidence that Kenny will be in every episode.
I'm pretty sure the Episodes are mostly done when they release the game. Maybe just bring in voice actors to read lines.
I think Telltale might push the boat out here. They DID say S3 was going to be 'considerably larger', so what is that consisted of having 2/3 different stories, I.e with Kenny, Jane or Alone (I think they'd tie Wellington back in with Kenny... just go with it for now). This might not mean all season, but at least the first 2 or 3 episodes might have your chosen character, before meeting their fate, 2nd time around. And I think, story wise, they'll tie up all 3 stories come the 3rd or 4th episode.
Maybe even for a bit for the first episode would be fine.
He already gets an emotional death, if you choose to go that route.
I think the best way for Kenny to permanently leave the series is to have an unknown status in season 3 or stick to the staying in Wellington ending of season 2. If Kenny is killed onscreen in season 3 then at least with my other save where Clem stayed in Wellington, his fate is left a mystery. I'd stick to that with knowing he could still be alive wherever he is
both sucked lol. Kenny managed to be even more of an asshole.
Yes i'd love to see determinant characters last a full season and not just one or two episodes before being killed. Not just that but to still have an important role in the game and not just become background characters like Nick became after A House Divided
RichWalk23
Yes i agree. I really want new characters to be given development this season. Hopefully they will let us have more interaction/talking options for the characters in season 3
The thing is im pretty sure telltale said our ending choices will carry over into season 3. But if they do i can't see them making 3 or 4 completely different scenarios for episode 1 of the next season
I have high hopes for S3 (and Michonne) to be much better with character interaction/development
All three of their recent series have been doing quite well in this regard. Surprisingly enough, Minecraft has a ton of hub areas in the third and fourth episodes in particular. And they're not just one-note conversations like in TWD S2 where it's basically "Are you okay?" "Yes." "Okay.", they're fairly extensive.
Ben had potential of being the longest determinant character in one season to go almost a full season but as soon as Christa and Omid showed up, he was axed to make room. Sad really because given they threw away Christa and Omid at the start of the new season, Ben could've paved the way for determinant characters surviving a full season. It's pretty much telltales way of saying "Hey, you had a good run, but we have no future plans for you, so we are going to have the choice of killing you or leaving you then kill you off automatically in the next episode".
I mean...Kenny and Jane are important to the story. They helped shape the endings, so they have to be important in Season 3 and I think Telltale knows that. They already learned the lesson that if a character is determinant, it doesn't mean they need to be killed off later lol.