survival or friendship
My Lee was a Tough guy: He trusted only Clementine, Christa, Omid, Kenny's family and Carley.
I have killed Lee ... sorry. I progress because I could understand his point. And trust no stranger and find Christa and Omid. If he becomes cooed as I start all over from the game
Clem could not rely on foreign people. she killed (Nick, Jane, Rebecca, Sarita, Luke and Bonnie)
Clem found it hard to trust Sarah, but Clem rescued her, Clem said Reggie Sarah have a baby, Clem did not bother to help Sarah, it's hard to trust strangers. My Clem get very ugly States at Pete, Luke, Nick, Rebecca, Alvin and Sarah. (Clem become so mad at them because did not believe her. Then came Carver, she has said about them, and open the door) with the exception of Kenny and Sarita. When Sarita got a bite from a zombie, tried Clem to save her. Clem has killed Sarita. Kenny was mad at her. He calls Clem one brat. When Kenny sat in the tent all alone, -Kenny why the hell could Carver did not kill me? I have let you down -Clem It does not fit, you've always helped me, always. -Kenny I've seen that you can handle yourself, but thank you said to me. In campfires spoke Clem him. He apologized to -Clem. It's okay, knew you did not. he result. When he told her that he missed his son. Clem told she misses, too. He was my only friend I have not got so many. -Clem. I can well understand that you wanted a little alone. he smiled and thanks again. Clem came back to the fire along the other the other. Mike asked for Arvo do you want? He screamed let me alone. Kenny came and beat on Arvo, -Clem said you are tired Kenny. Kenny was very shocked. on the ice, my Clem shot zombie clean, Bonnie and Luke are dead now. On anything, it was Bonnie's sake it all, she deserved to die. In the house, Kenny scolding of Avro. I agreed with him. my Clem tried to help Arvo, but Kenny beat Clem accidentally him Been very frightened, and looked at her with one eye Kenny when he smite Arvo. it was also Arvo fault. he gossiped about her steal his stuff (Clem could not) + He's a liar to the house there is food, and he said to Clem and Jane, his sister was sick, why the hell he was hiding his gym bag in the dustbin. huh?
Luke: He was also very selfish in end. He after all Kenny time. Every time Kenny explain or would like to help. Luke stops him all the time. Clem defense Kenny when Rebecca turned into a zombie, she shot her, she wants to attack AJ. Clem advances a clean lots. Luke shouting at her. Luke. What the hell are you doing? Bonnie asked Luke why red you are not AJ? Clem spoke to him. Clem. Are you okay? Luke. begynte talked about how his group. Bonnie came back, -Clem What do you think? .Clem Told her -Clem. Luke has badly that the other dead. Bonnie gave Clem. Luke stared and -Luke. serious? and said thank you for nothing! and stare down at Clem came to Kenny and help his injury eye. -Kenny Asked. How such it out? -Clem. I am so sorry Kenny. -Kenny Do not say excuse it. (Clem did not bother to look at Kenny kill Carver. -Kenny Do not you look at. -Clem. Kenny !! you can not. -Kenny. It only takes a moment. You can go with Sarita). continue in history. -Kenny. what do you think? Alvin Jr. -Clem. I like it. -Clem He would think you his father. Kenny smiled back at Clementine.
Bonnie: the lie all started, Clem did not trust her. Clem spoke very ugly at her,
Jane: She keeps saying "trust me" Clem gave negative reactions to Jane,
Clem has always defended Kenny. Clem has save twice Kenny 
And he saved her twice. I call cooperation. I think that the creators are trying to talked about how to survive in naturet. Perhaps they seem to explain to us, but maybe super hard, so got a good idea. They make a computer game, I think I've learned so much about this game hanlder about? The game is about how can we trust some. who must choose between right selected. The friendship or survive if you choose friendship so good things happen instance. to help each other, to get all honor and respect for your friend or your friends if you friend gets upset, so you can comfort him power. she. And not to leave them, whatever. If you choose survives then bad things happen. E.g. you get big change that you get bad depression. Because you miss your good entrusts friends for example. Lee, electricity. Kenny. They were to help you fit like family. Your survive much talking, joking with you. For example, Jane teased Kenny with his former family. I mean it was not fun, it was just gibberish electricity. It was the most egositiske play and explanations. I think it was not fun just why the hell she said that does not bother him. Jane, think of yourself. You also have lost someone. Luke, Jamie and Troy, fuck you Jane.
The game has many good moral help, mostly moralistic and very realistic explanations. For example, Kenny never give up. Jane is the most care about things. I could not kill or let Kenny It's five things.
- He is good to shoot and protect .
- He has good repair, for example. train, motor home, automotive and wind.
- He has experience with children.
- He can help or comfort.
- He is a fishing boat can to teach children to catch fish.
His heart is made of gold. I think he is very loving. Of course you must help him to comfort him. it is true friendship is all?
p.s. I am not an American or Englishman
Jane endings
At the end of No Going Back, Clementine is forced to decide to either let Kenny kill Jane or shoot him and save her - doing so will result in Kenny's death. Upon rescuing Jane, Clementine discovers that Alvin Jr. is alive ( a fact that Jane hid to force Kenny to attack her) - when confronting Jane about this, Clementine can either choose to forgive her and continue traveling with her or shun her and walk off into the wilderness alone with the baby.
If the player accepts Jane's apology, the two will walk off together and end up at Howe's Hardware (where Carver and his crew made their camp). After examining the area, another group of survivors will appear - Clementine must choose whether or not to aid them in their search for food, or send them away and risk retaliation later
Kenny endings
Should the player choose not to save Jane, and instead look away as she requested, Kenny will kill Jane with her own knife. After the dust settles, Clementine must decide whether or not to allow Kenny to accompany her on the remainder of her journey.
If she includes him, the two will eventually make it to Wellington (the large settlement that Christa and Kenny were attempting to reach throughout the season), but quickly learn that the compound is over capacity and no longer accepting new members into it's community. Kenny offers to sacrifice himself to the wild if the members of Wellington will allow Clementine and A.J. to stay - Clementine can either accept his proposal and remain in Wellington or choose to remain with Kenny on the uncertain (and unsafe) road ahead.
Clementine ending
No matter how the fight between Kenny and Jane ends, Clementine has the option to leave either one of them behind and set off into the world alone with Alvin Jr. (there's also a third option wherein she can shoot Kenny if he has killed Jane). The final scene of the season with this ending is of Clementine preparing to cross through a herd of walkers by covering herself and Alvin in zombie guts.
Comments
A lot of people are driven by their emotions and will often choose friendship or loved ones even if it lowers their chances of survival. Look at Jane for example - you could tell that she was guilt ridden and damaged for leaving her sister and not being able to save her.
Friendship comes way, way, way before survival, at least for me. If you're emotionally alone, but living safely, you're alive. However, in my opinion, you're not living. Whether you ended up with Jane or Kenny as your companion, you know you'll have someone to look after you and care about you. Chances are, you stayed with someone you trust and care for in return. In this apocalyptic world, relationships are hard to come by. Once you connect with someone, you should stand by them and not ditch them for survival. I know I'd rather die by a friend than survive lifelessly alone or with strangers. (Sorry in advance if this offended anyone. That is not my plan. I'm just stating my opinion on the topic)
Kenny is both good for survival and friendship. He embodies both.
¡Por qué no las dos!
You're right. Of course I will survive, but I will not go with Jane because I hate her and I can not trust her
Survival of course.
Friendship is a nice luxury. However, survival is a crucial commodity that runs in our DNA and as animals with self-preservation instincts as well as a determination to stay alive. Survival comes before friendship.
Besides, if you're referring that my choice of "friends" is between an insecure psychotic racist or a crass short-sighted moronic survivalist. I think I'd end up blowing them both away and just seclude myself anyways.
I'm not sure I understand this phrasing. Are you saying that humans as a whole naturally has self-preservation based instincts and would naturally choose survival over friendship?
If so, then I would have to disagree. If that was the case, then I believe that humanity would have died out many years ago with this natural instinct. Even in a zombie apocalypse, you can only do so much on your own until you are in a bind and end up in an impossible situation that guarantees your death without the aid of others.
Friendship doesn't necessarily mean just being sociable and friendly with each other. It can also mean a state of mutual trust and support with one and another, in this case, living in a group to increase your chances of survival.
That's not to say we can't travel in packs to increase our individual chances of survival. All I'm saying is that self-preservation is a much more base influence that runs in our genetic strands that dictates who and when we travel with in those herds.
One thing I've never really liked about The Walking Dead is that the choices always seem to be so monochromatically focused on being either a "friend" without me ever feeling like it was earned or that the circumstances of the blossoming relationship ever made sense in the first place. Compartmentalizing relationships like that never felt earned in my opinion. It makes for a great emotional ride, just not the most logical given how they're woven into the narrative.
Take the cabin group for instance, the relation between them and Clem felt forced and very one-dimensional.
Perhaps so, but there's a reason why we don't naturally follow this instinct. Human beings are social animals, more so than other animals, because it was the more practical route than merely living on self-preservation. Unless they were exceptionally trained to live in an uninhabitable environment on their own without the aid of other experienced people, then it's possible, but barely anyone in the world practices this ideology as living and supporting each other in a community was more practical and reasonable than surviving on their lonesome.
Human beings simply aren't built to live completely on their own based on a survivalist instinct.
I'll agree that the relation between Clementine and the Cabin Group was forced and one-dimensional, but I believe that's due to bad writing and not because of Clementine's instinct to survive on her own.
(?) You are one of the few people among the forum to realize that it wasn't within Jane's physical capabilities to save Jamie. Congratulations!
I have to agree with you there, @Everyone'sClemInTime. Protecting a friend isn't a priority as much as protecting the self and protecting close family members is, from an instinctual perspective, at least in the common of humans.
why call me?
All non-Kenny fans realize that (who are in a minority)
Not really. I've stumbled upon quite a few people who like Jane and say that she allowed Jamie to rest because she couldn't keep going anymore. Jane herself doesn't seem to realize that she couldn't lift and throw her sister up and throw the skylight—she frames the situation to us as if she voluntarily left her behind, which in turn, ended with lots of players disliking her.
What I'm saying is I've seen that a lot of people that worship Kenny and shit on Jane with the excuse that she left her sister to die and she'll also leave Clementine behind. Along with she left a baby to die in a frozen car. The baby was safer inside a warm car than the walker infested blizzard going on outside. Heck, she even opened the window a bit so that he didn't suffocate to death.
I encountered very few people (myself included) who understand that she had no choice in both cases. Jaime just didn't want to go on and in the second case, Kenny was forcing her and Clementine to a safe heaven which may or may not have been real. Even if they all reached Wellington all safe and sound, Jane wouldn't have been allowed to enter (along with Mike & Bonnie and possibly Arvo if they didn't betray the group) but Kenny kept going on with his rant.
Kenny's rant for S1: BOAT! BOAT! BOAT!
Kenny's rant for S2: Wellington! Wellington! Wellington!
So ultimately, the going back to Howe's idea was the best option available.
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