its the best ending. that or, pointing gun at the family in howes. it shows how dark clementine becomes. i just wish there was endings where… more we leave the baby too. maybe use it as bait to pass that herd of walkers (instead of smearing walker guts all over) in alone endings. that would have been awesome.
its the best ending. that or, pointing gun at the family in howes. it shows how dark clementine becomes. i just wish there was endings where… more we leave the baby too. maybe use it as bait to pass that herd of walkers (instead of smearing walker guts all over) in alone endings. that would have been awesome.
Those people, who are they and what kind of morals do they have to drag an infant out into the cold with only an 11 year old for protection.… more
The kind that would rather sacrifice a slow death with a shit infant than one with a borderline mentally handicapped woman with issues not yet identified by psychiatrists or a psychotic racist dipshit with the IQ of a brick with shit on it.
This is my reasoning. I wanted a Fresh Start for Clem. Her decisions, her choice of companions, a voice in where she was headed. There should have been an option for Clem to leave that messed up Cabin group even before Carver came into the picture IMO.
I think that given their walkthroughs they may just felt like it was time to restart, maybe because they think that both Kenny AND Jane have already lost their minds.
Wow, do you think calling people psychopaths is a good way to prove your 'empathy' and 'moral integrity'? Cause you come off sounding extrem… moreely judgemental.
AJ is a bunch of pixels, not a real human anything. I would have left him too if they would have allowed for the option, no question about it. Who needs a crying bundle of pixels to take care of for the next 2 years? Lol.
Wow, do you think calling people psychopaths is a good way to prove your 'empathy' and 'moral integrity'? Cause you come off sounding extrem… moreely judgemental.
AJ is a bunch of pixels, not a real human anything. I would have left him too if they would have allowed for the option, no question about it. Who needs a crying bundle of pixels to take care of for the next 2 years? Lol.
Yeah I hear you. However, Clementine really is too fragile to be on her own, with AJ then... But this is such a relative matter, I mean, if a player conceives Kenny and Jane as a danger when it comes to leadership, then on their point of view Clem is way better on her own. Then you have the players who became friends with Kenny at some point and believe in him, the ones who see Jane as a light on Clementine's life. I love how this depends in how each one of us related to these characters through the whole experience.
This is my reasoning. I wanted a Fresh Start for Clem. Her decisions, her choice of companions, a voice in where she was headed. There shoul… mored have been an option for Clem to leave that messed up Cabin group even before Carver came into the picture IMO.
Wow, do you think calling people psychopaths is a good way to prove your 'empathy' and 'moral integrity'? Cause you come off sounding extrem… moreely judgemental.
AJ is a bunch of pixels, not a real human anything. I would have left him too if they would have allowed for the option, no question about it. Who needs a crying bundle of pixels to take care of for the next 2 years? Lol.
The majority of YouTube comments are rooting for Kenny, and the majority of forum comments are rooting for Jane.
The three percent of decent posters on YouTube that advocate for both Kenny and Jane should migrate to the forum. They would probably not get a bunch of replies with angry kids and entitled pricks. Not more than there, anyway.
Not that I'd ever pick the alone ending, but I can understand why some folk would. Both Kenny and Jane have their serious faults and emotional issues, and I'd imagine that there's some people who, for whatever reasons they may have, wouldn't be able to look past that, viewing them as the crazy old fuck and cold distant bitch they technically are. I mean, judging from some of the actions committed by both characters, Clem could be safer or at least happier on her own, being free from Kenny's seriously violent temper and Jane's lack of regard for life, probably would cut short on the amount of extra stress the kid gets put through.
It might seem suicidal for an 11 year old and a baby to go out into a world, crawling with zombies, completely on their own, but the choice at the end, is heavily fuelled by whether you like Kenny or Jane. It doesn't really focus all to much on the consequences for Clem if she doesn't have someone to look after her, so for those who didn't like either of the characters, I'd say it was an easy choice.
maybe use it as bait to pass that herd of walkers (instead of smearing walker guts all over) in alone endings.
Yeah no thanks, I'll … morepass on that
That kind of ending sounds like more overly nihilistic bullshit if you ask me. Same reason I don't like the ending where you let Kenny kill Jane, then kill him. Fuck that ending, fuck the horse it rode in on, and fuck its cultural lineage. Fuck most things about it. Except maybe the cinematography, because the way the shot is framed when Clem shoots Kenny is pretty neat, but fuck the rest of it. If you like that ending, fair enough, but god ALMIGHTY do I not.
Despite what some people believe, TWD is not meant to be all doom and gloom, because if it was, everyone would've gotten bored of it long ago. If it was a never-ending cascade of death, that wasn't balanced out by some semblance of normalcy, optimism and morality like it is now, just about every major event throughout the franchise… [view original content]
Well I am one of those people, and while I wasn't happy to see Clem have to go it alone, the decisions that led to that outcome were all sound.
Kenny had lost his damn mind, and killed Jane on spec, so I put him down like the mad dog he was. Also I did derive great satisfaction from shooting him in the face, so that was nice for me.
Jane was just plain unstable, and while I did like her as a character the Truck scene turned me against her. Of all the things that were happening after Clem got shot, continually antagonizing an obviously unhinged person was not a good decision. Jane was just being selfish, and showed that she didn't want what was best for Clem, she just wanted to decide what was best.
So I got rid of them both because I deemed both unfit to be by Clem's side.
Wow, do you think calling people psychopaths is a good way to prove your 'empathy' and 'moral integrity'? Cause you come off sounding extrem… moreely judgemental.
AJ is a bunch of pixels, not a real human anything. I would have left him too if they would have allowed for the option, no question about it. Who needs a crying bundle of pixels to take care of for the next 2 years? Lol.
Wow, do you think calling people psychopaths is a good way to prove your 'empathy' and 'moral integrity'? Cause you come off sounding extrem… moreely judgemental.
AJ is a bunch of pixels, not a real human anything. I would have left him too if they would have allowed for the option, no question about it. Who needs a crying bundle of pixels to take care of for the next 2 years? Lol.
Honestly, I had my fill of "Kenny vs Jane" threads way back when the Season Finale rolled around, but because I feel obligated to spread the… more good word of Kenny, I will indulge you.
I chose Kenny, for Kenny had given his only begotten son to die for our sins. I chose Kenny, for Jane tried to make me caste down my God in favor of false idols. She sold her soul to Larry, and was appropriately delt with. When my time on Earth has passed, I will be transported to Wellington on the Holy Boat, as a reward for my faithfulness. When you die, Janiacs, you shall only feel the force of hundreds of Saltlicks crushing you.
Hail Kenny, full of boats, the 'stache is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst urbans and blessed is the fruit of thy loins, Duck. Holy Kenny, Father of Duck, pray for us shitbirds now and in the hour of our bite, amen.
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Psychopath is the only word to describe a person who wou… moreld willingly leave a helpless baby to get devoured just because they find it annoying.
Your point being? If you'd leave a baby to die in a simulation then that speaks a lot about your real life persona.
Not really, i think it says that i'm capable of telling the difference between a plot device in a fictional story/game, and an actual live baby.
Of course i would never leave an actual living human (or animal for that matter) child anywhere alone. Lol!
You seem to like attacking peoples actual character, this is a discussion about hypothetical decisions made in a simulated environment. Therefore i feel free to make decisions in this simulated world that i would never make in real life. I don't appreciate your judgemental attitude.
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Psychopath is the only word to describe a person who wou… moreld willingly leave a helpless baby to get devoured just because they find it annoying.
Your point being? If you'd leave a baby to die in a simulation then that speaks a lot about your real life persona.
Indeed@chusets, that's a great point. It's kind of what TTG builds their games around ingeneral. But to me atleast,the idea that Clem would shoot Kenny in anger, doesn't fit the story we have seen. In my opinion Clem will only kill if she is at risk or someone she cares for is. Aka I don't think she's a Carol from the show or nothing so...
Yeah I hear you. However, Clementine really is too fragile to be on her own, with AJ then... But this is such a relative matter, I mean, if … morea player conceives Kenny and Jane as a danger when it comes to leadership, then on their point of view Clem is way better on her own. Then you have the players who became friends with Kenny at some point and believe in him, the ones who see Jane as a light on Clementine's life. I love how this depends in how each one of us related to these characters through the whole experience.
I don't really feel anything about AJ, good or bad. I just don't want Clem to have to take care of him for the rest of her life
Don't get me wrong, i cuddle the kid, i hold him and whatever in game - i just think it was a terrible series of events at the end of last game and there should have been an option to give the kid to Kenny if he wanted AJ so much and for Clem to take off on her own - sans bundle of pixels. Everyone's happy.
The first time around I made my decision based solely on what Clementine saw. Kenny was inches away from sticking a knife in Jane's chest, looking like he'd snapped all the while. So she shot him. Then she found out that it was all a trick to push Kenny over the edge. Clementine took AJ and left Jane behind at the roadside pit stop. ending up alone.
So I don't want to get involved with another one of these threads, but I just came to comment on that nickname. "Janiacs". I don't know who came up with that, but it's cute and clever and I love it.
Two years and we're still at war with each other over the Kenny vs Jane feud. I'm pretty sure Kenny Apologists won and the Janiac Rebellion … morelost. Seriously, I never understood why fans are head over heels for Kenny, but then again my Clem was more of a loner anyway.
Honestly, I had my fill of "Kenny vs Jane" threads way back when the Season Finale rolled around, but because I feel obligated to spread the… more good word of Kenny, I will indulge you.
I chose Kenny, for Kenny had given his only begotten son to die for our sins. I chose Kenny, for Jane tried to make me caste down my God in favor of false idols. She sold her soul to Larry, and was appropriately delt with. When my time on Earth has passed, I will be transported to Wellington on the Holy Boat, as a reward for my faithfulness. When you die, Janiacs, you shall only feel the force of hundreds of Saltlicks crushing you.
Hail Kenny, full of boats, the 'stache is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst urbans and blessed is the fruit of thy loins, Duck. Holy Kenny, Father of Duck, pray for us shitbirds now and in the hour of our bite, amen.
Listen, considering Jane didn't even become a character until the, what, 3rd epsiode, and definitely wasn't a main character until episode 5, I just needed this Kenny v Jane bullshit to end. The rivalry came out of nowhere and made no sense to neither plot nor character development. If it would have been Kenny v Luke then of course I wouldn't have ended up alone (I'd follow Luke off a cliff are you kidding). I did actually liked Kenny's character but once they pinned him against Jane it contradicted most of his development and changed beyond recognition to the point where I couldn't care for him anymore. And Jane had previous potential to be an amazingly strong, female character but endangering the life of a child to "prove a point" doesn't make sense with anyone's way of thinking and certainly not the way they set up her character. Kenny and Jane had changed so much in episode 5 that being alone seemed less irritating than being with characters I no longer recognized.
No offense intended, but two perfectly honest I stop caring about this whole discussion a long time ago.
I really don't care anymore about the Kenny / Jane discussions, nor do I really care any longer about what choice was the white one, or perhaps who was considered to be more of a decent person, or who was really looking at the Clementine.
The reason why I don't give a shit anymore, is because quite frankly it's just a video game. The video game gives you the illusion of choice, but in reality the basic plot line and what not is already been determined.
I like real life much better, because in real life, you don't really know what's going to happen. All you can do is do the very best that you can do as a human being, and let the chips fall where they may.
I thought you stopped playing The Walking Dead, and quite frankly pretty much every other video game, because there's so much to do in the real world.
Life is about experience, life is about learning, if you stop doing those things, then you stop living.
In my personal opinion, life is too damn short to spend it playing video games, or with your eyes glued to the TV set.
The kind that would rather sacrifice a slow death with a shit infant than one with a borderline mentally handicapped woman with issues not yet identified by psychiatrists or a psychotic racist dipshit with the IQ of a brick with shit on it.
I swear to goodness, I thought you were talking about Sarah and Carver at first and BUSTOUT laughin either way!
Those people, who are they and what kind of morals do they have to drag an infant out into the cold with only an 11 year old for protection.… more
The kind that would rather sacrifice a slow death with a shit infant than one with a borderline mentally handicapped woman with issues not yet identified by psychiatrists or a psychotic racist dipshit with the IQ of a brick with shit on it.
No offense intended, but two perfectly honest I stop caring about this whole discussion a long time ago.
I really don't care anymore abou… moret the Kenny / Jane discussions, nor do I really care any longer about what choice was the white one, or perhaps who was considered to be more of a decent person, or who was really looking at the Clementine.
The reason why I don't give a shit anymore, is because quite frankly it's just a video game. The video game gives you the illusion of choice, but in reality the basic plot line and what not is already been determined.
I like real life much better, because in real life, you don't really know what's going to happen. All you can do is do the very best that you can do as a human being, and let the chips fall where they may.
I thought you stopped playing The Walking Dead, and quite frankly pretty much every other video game, because there's so much to do in the real world.
Life is about experien… [view original content]
Agreed. It's out of character for her to do that. Clem has Always been kind and calm, it's her nature. This point of the story (Kenny and Jane situation) is a perfect example of how we (the players) get involved and take the matters as if they were our own, I mean, we have been building the Clementine character since Season One through Lee and now we continue to build her reflected on our own personality, and that's all just ONE way to see things, one way to play it out. I love playing from the characters' point of view for instance.
Indeed@chusets, that's a great point. It's kind of what TTG builds their games around ingeneral. But to me atleast,the idea that Clem woul… mored shoot Kenny in anger, doesn't fit the story we have seen. In my opinion Clem will only kill if she is at risk or someone she cares for is. Aka I don't think she's a Carol from the show or nothing so...
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I agree with you Abbatior, i always go with the alone ending. Kill Kenny, leave Jane... Would've left AJ too if i had the chance.
Great post Eveyone'sClemenTime!
This is my reasoning. I wanted a Fresh Start for Clem. Her decisions, her choice of companions, a voice in where she was headed. There should have been an option for Clem to leave that messed up Cabin group even before Carver came into the picture IMO.
I want to play this game on hard mode
thank u! i really hope we can get rid of it this season.
Fairly certain.
Yeah I hear you. However, Clementine really is too fragile to be on her own, with AJ then... But this is such a relative matter, I mean, if a player conceives Kenny and Jane as a danger when it comes to leadership, then on their point of view Clem is way better on her own. Then you have the players who became friends with Kenny at some point and believe in him, the ones who see Jane as a light on Clementine's life. I love how this depends in how each one of us related to these characters through the whole experience.
Are you actually being serious right now?
The three percent of decent posters on YouTube that advocate for both Kenny and Jane should migrate to the forum. They would probably not get a bunch of replies with angry kids and entitled pricks. Not more than there, anyway.
Not that I'd ever pick the alone ending, but I can understand why some folk would. Both Kenny and Jane have their serious faults and emotional issues, and I'd imagine that there's some people who, for whatever reasons they may have, wouldn't be able to look past that, viewing them as the crazy old fuck and cold distant bitch they technically are. I mean, judging from some of the actions committed by both characters, Clem could be safer or at least happier on her own, being free from Kenny's seriously violent temper and Jane's lack of regard for life, probably would cut short on the amount of extra stress the kid gets put through.
It might seem suicidal for an 11 year old and a baby to go out into a world, crawling with zombies, completely on their own, but the choice at the end, is heavily fuelled by whether you like Kenny or Jane. It doesn't really focus all to much on the consequences for Clem if she doesn't have someone to look after her, so for those who didn't like either of the characters, I'd say it was an easy choice.
But yeah, that's my two cents on the subject.
The wording of this post combined with how much I agree with it.
Fucking 10/10.
Janiacs At The Disco!
Well I am one of those people, and while I wasn't happy to see Clem have to go it alone, the decisions that led to that outcome were all sound.
Kenny had lost his damn mind, and killed Jane on spec, so I put him down like the mad dog he was. Also I did derive great satisfaction from shooting him in the face, so that was nice for me.
Jane was just plain unstable, and while I did like her as a character the Truck scene turned me against her. Of all the things that were happening after Clem got shot, continually antagonizing an obviously unhinged person was not a good decision. Jane was just being selfish, and showed that she didn't want what was best for Clem, she just wanted to decide what was best.
So I got rid of them both because I deemed both unfit to be by Clem's side.
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Psychopath is the only word to describe a person who would willingly leave a helpless baby to get devoured just because they find it annoying.
Your point being? If you'd leave a baby to die in a simulation then that speaks a lot about your real life persona.
You're a believer in a false theology. If history and Star Trek has shown us anything it is, bearded people are in league with Satan.
ur hilarious.
Not really, i think it says that i'm capable of telling the difference between a plot device in a fictional story/game, and an actual live baby.
Of course i would never leave an actual living human (or animal for that matter) child anywhere alone. Lol!
You seem to like attacking peoples actual character, this is a discussion about hypothetical decisions made in a simulated environment. Therefore i feel free to make decisions in this simulated world that i would never make in real life. I don't appreciate your judgemental attitude.
Yes? No? Both?
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Indeed@chusets, that's a great point. It's kind of what TTG builds their games around ingeneral. But to me atleast,the idea that Clem would shoot Kenny in anger, doesn't fit the story we have seen. In my opinion Clem will only kill if she is at risk or someone she cares for is. Aka I don't think she's a Carol from the show or nothing so...
I just did not expect you to feel this way about AJ.
…beautiful clean-shaven face!
I don't really feel anything about AJ, good or bad. I just don't want Clem to have to take care of him for the rest of her life
Don't get me wrong, i cuddle the kid, i hold him and whatever in game - i just think it was a terrible series of events at the end of last game and there should have been an option to give the kid to Kenny if he wanted AJ so much and for Clem to take off on her own - sans bundle of pixels. Everyone's happy.
The first time around I made my decision based solely on what Clementine saw. Kenny was inches away from sticking a knife in Jane's chest, looking like he'd snapped all the while. So she shot him. Then she found out that it was all a trick to push Kenny over the edge. Clementine took AJ and left Jane behind at the roadside pit stop. ending up alone.
So I don't want to get involved with another one of these threads, but I just came to comment on that nickname. "Janiacs". I don't know who came up with that, but it's cute and clever and I love it.
I don't think either side won any kind of fight. Just people with differing opinions.
My Janiac Romance.
Jane and the Janiacmunks
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Smash Jane
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blushes my first ever GIF as a reply! Thanks RavenSnowstorm
Janiacs Park
Fall Out Janiacs
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Nailed it bro
Listen, considering Jane didn't even become a character until the, what, 3rd epsiode, and definitely wasn't a main character until episode 5, I just needed this Kenny v Jane bullshit to end. The rivalry came out of nowhere and made no sense to neither plot nor character development. If it would have been Kenny v Luke then of course I wouldn't have ended up alone (I'd follow Luke off a cliff are you kidding). I did actually liked Kenny's character but once they pinned him against Jane it contradicted most of his development and changed beyond recognition to the point where I couldn't care for him anymore. And Jane had previous potential to be an amazingly strong, female character but endangering the life of a child to "prove a point" doesn't make sense with anyone's way of thinking and certainly not the way they set up her character. Kenny and Jane had changed so much in episode 5 that being alone seemed less irritating than being with characters I no longer recognized.
No offense intended, but two perfectly honest I stop caring about this whole discussion a long time ago.
I really don't care anymore about the Kenny / Jane discussions, nor do I really care any longer about what choice was the white one, or perhaps who was considered to be more of a decent person, or who was really looking at the Clementine.
The reason why I don't give a shit anymore, is because quite frankly it's just a video game. The video game gives you the illusion of choice, but in reality the basic plot line and what not is already been determined.
I like real life much better, because in real life, you don't really know what's going to happen. All you can do is do the very best that you can do as a human being, and let the chips fall where they may.
I thought you stopped playing The Walking Dead, and quite frankly pretty much every other video game, because there's so much to do in the real world.
Life is about experience, life is about learning, if you stop doing those things, then you stop living.
In my personal opinion, life is too damn short to spend it playing video games, or with your eyes glued to the TV set.
@Everyone'sClemInTime
I swear to goodness, I thought you were talking about Sarah and Carver at first and BUSTOUT laughin either way!
Yes thank @TWDazehnuu for the term Janiacs...even though he is a Kenny Apologist.
I wish people would understand that there are no wrong choices.
And yet you post.
Agreed. It's out of character for her to do that. Clem has Always been kind and calm, it's her nature. This point of the story (Kenny and Jane situation) is a perfect example of how we (the players) get involved and take the matters as if they were our own, I mean, we have been building the Clementine character since Season One through Lee and now we continue to build her reflected on our own personality, and that's all just ONE way to see things, one way to play it out. I love playing from the characters' point of view for instance.