I'm not a big Kenny fan either but I don't extremely hate him. Yet, I still feel a tiny bit regretful at the option of killing him in the end of Season 2. But I made my choice and I will live with it.
I feel yea i was just watching the best friend hate kenny on youtube i saw how they treat kenny it was so horribel
I hated kenny deeply i… moren my blood but i never treat him like they did cuz i new he was mean good and lost so much but still I HATE HIM
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry?
Eventually, yes. I hated him and that was a reason I hated him, but my Lee did worse than he did on a few occasions. Besides, I see where he was coming from.
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV?
Of course. I hated Carley and her shooting Doug was completely an accident. Lilly had her reasons, and she's still overall one of the most interesting characters of Season 1.
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine?
Yeah. Clem kind of deserved it. She made stupid decisions and was a bitch, although I suppose it's Telltale's fault for not giving us a choice.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew?
Kind of. Nick was pretty fucking stupid for shooting Matthew, and he doesn't deserve a free pass on it, but he was genuinely apologetic for doing so and accepted his fate for his irrational decisions.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group?
Yeah, definitely. She worked for a crazed psychopath that would have killed her would she not have.
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts?
Gee, I wonder how I feel about this topic?
"Jane is my favorite character of Season Two." "Jane in a lot of ways was in the right for her decisions, no matter how dumb her decisions seemed on the outside." "I fucking love Jane." "Jane is like the most attractive character in the game." "I hate Kenny." ~ Me, 2016
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry?
He didn't leave me and I agreed with his decisio… moren in the meat locker, there was nothing to forgive.
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV?
No.
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine?
Yes, it was understandable considering the situation. And she called Clementine family in EP4, which was very sweet.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew?
He did a really dumb thing but he was just trying to protect his friends, he was alright.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group?
No way. Taking all the supplies and leaving the rest of the group to die is unforgivable.
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts?
You can't forgive a corpse.
I will always forgive Kenny for whatever he does, he makes a lot of mistakes but wouldn't a lot of people make mistakes during a zombie apocalypse? it's not exactly the easiest situation to make the right decisions. But what makes him so great is that he ALWAYS makes up for his mistakes if you stand by his side. His anger takes control of him a lot of the time but if you know anyone that has anger issues you should know that they never really mean the things they say when they are angry.
I didn't forgive lily because I didn't like her before she killed Carley/ Doug and Carley was one of my favourite characters at the time and Lily had no reason to shoot her.
I forgave Rebecca because she was just trying to protect her group and didn't want any more of them to die, so she thought that letting clementine into the group could have put her friends in danger.
Nick shouldn't have shot Mathew I still don't understand why he did, but it was just a mistake so he deserved a second chance.
I'm still not sure about Bonnie she was nice to clementine but she shouldn't have left, I see why she did but I still think she should have stayed.
I did really like Jane but then she hid AJ and wanted Kenny to try and kill her which I think was wrong, anyone would have been angry at her and probably tried to kill her in that situation. She was too unfair on him and never gave him a chance to show that he is a good person.
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry?
Eventually, yes. I hated him and that was a reas… moreon I hated him, but my Lee did worse than he did on a few occasions. Besides, I see where he was coming from.
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV?
Of course. I hated Carley and her shooting Doug was completely an accident. Lilly had her reasons, and she's still overall one of the most interesting characters of Season 1.
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine?
Yeah. Clem kind of deserved it. She made stupid decisions and was a bitch, although I suppose it's Telltale's fault for not giving us a choice.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew?
Kind of. Nick was pretty fucking stupid for shooting Matthew, and he doesn't deserve a free pass on it, but he was genuinely apologetic for doing so and accepted his fate for hi… [view original content]
She was nosy, annoying, a know-it-all, cocky, she couldn't even figure out a simple radio, she was bland and uninteresting and she instigated shit with Lilly that lead to her death and yet Telltale treats Lilly as the traitor.
She explicitly said that she didn't kill the newborn and that it was an accident. If it was an "accident," then she was telling Kenny that she didn't let it happen on purpose.
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry?
In Season 1, Kenny had made it rather difficult for me to forgive his actions and attitude towards Lee and the others, but I had a sense of begrudging respect towards him and I did learn to forgive him at the end of Season 1. Then come Season 2 and seeing how Kenny had refused to learn from his experience and having grown worse as a person, along with having to put up with his antics one more as Clementine, I have come to find that whatever respect I had for him had completely diminished.
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV?
I have forgiven Lilly a long time ago, and while I didn't necessarily approve of what she had done, I had understood how the circumstances behind the death of her father, the destruction of the group's safe haven, and how little trust and support she had left from her group after the theft and bandit attack, had all lead to her breakdown. After experiencing Season 2 for myself, I found myself appreciating Lilly even more.
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine?
While I did forgive Rebecca's horrid attitude towards Clementine since their first meeting, I was rather disappointed that the next episode had completely glossed over how vile Rebecca had acted towards a scared 11 year old who was permanently separated from her surrogate mother of two years after a bandit attack, and was locked up in a shed to die over a suspected walker bite. I understand that Rebecca was heavily pregnant at the time, but the sudden shift from detesting and advocating the death of Clementine, to suddenly liking her the next morning, was rather baffling.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew?
I forgave Nick for shooting Matthew, even though I recognized that he definitely made a stupid and impulsive mistake that caused someone to needlessly die. Nevertheless, it was clear to me that the event had greatly affected Nick and he was shown to feel guilty enough to owe up to his mistake to Walter, which was more than enough for me to convince Walter to spare him.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group?
For the first scene I forgave Bonnie, as I understood that she was merely following orders from Carver who at the time supposedly had a good reason to want the Cabin Group back in his community, and wasn't going to kill anyone until Kenny forced his hand. For the second scene, I had found the entire event to be very out-of-character (mainly the theft of all of the supplies while everyone had slept) and had felt railroaded into demonizing characters who disagreed with Kenny, that I couldn't take the scene seriously. In fact, I wanted to go with Bonnie, Mike, and Arvo the first opportunity I had, as I had no reason to remain with either Kenny or Jane.
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts?
While it was an idiotic and needlessly reckless plan, I was already on Jane's side regarding about disagreeing with the plan to venture towards an unknown destination while up against a blizzard. Had Jane simply asked me if I wanted to go to Wellington, and I was given the option to say 'no', the plan wouldn't need to proceed and I would leave with Jane. Kenny didn't have to die, but I wasn't going to let him murder someone for a crime he had no proof that Jane had committed.
Probably because Lilly had been growing paranoid for a while, started pointing fingers when she realized her private stash had been getting messed with, tried to threaten her and Ben with exile, and, as revealed in the Doug scenario, probably would've considered executing Ben on the spot without a true confession or so much as a vote against him, which she suggested in the first place. Her just up and taking the life of one of her group members into her own hands was crossing the line and the Doug scenario is even worse about that.
You're right that Carley got herself killed by brashly standing up to Lilly at the wrong time, and arguably about some of the other stuff, but she was just trying to stand up for Ben(who wasn't really capable of doing the same for himself despite doing so for her mere seconds ago) and backing up Lee's approach. Lilly shooting her in response was too much, but I can at least give her some slack since she was not emotionally stable at the time.
She was nosy, annoying, a know-it-all, cocky, she couldn't even figure out a simple radio, she was bland and uninteresting and she instigated shit with Lilly that lead to her death and yet Telltale treats Lilly as the traitor.
(…) as revealed in the Doug scenario, probably would've considered executing Ben on the spot without a true confession or so much as a vote against him, which she suggested in the first place.
That is incorrect!
Ben is the one who suggested that the group would vote, but then he regrets it and tells Lilly that they do not need to vote. The latter will ask Kenny and Doug what they think and they both refrain from doing their own votes—Kenny was busy—and you don't really have a chance to vote as Lee.
In the end, the vote count is zero, despite Lilly's intention to consider everybody's opinion.
Probably because Lilly had been growing paranoid for a while, started pointing fingers when she realized her private stash had been getting … moremessed with, tried to threaten her and Ben with exile, and, as revealed in the Doug scenario, probably would've considered executing Ben on the spot without a true confession or so much as a vote against him, which she suggested in the first place. Her just up and taking the life of one of her group members into her own hands was crossing the line and the Doug scenario is even worse about that.
You're right that Carley got herself killed by brashly standing up to Lilly at the wrong time, and arguably about some of the other stuff, but she was just trying to stand up for Ben(who wasn't really capable of doing the same for himself despite doing so for her mere seconds ago) and backing up Lee's approach. Lilly shooting her in response was too much, but I can at least give her some slack since she was not emotionally stable at the time.
Oh, you know what, you're right. I mainly recall Lilly agreeing that it was a good idea and asking everyone for their two cents.
But yeah, the fact that Lilly decided she should just up and kill Ben without his confession or the group's approval is what made me leave her on my first (Saved Doug) playthrough. We don't just kill each other; that would make us not so different from the Bandits.
(…) as revealed in the Doug scenario, probably would've considered executing Ben on the spot without a true confession or so much as a vote … moreagainst him, which she suggested in the first place.
That is incorrect!
Ben is the one who suggested that the group would vote, but then he regrets it and tells Lilly that they do not need to vote. The latter will ask Kenny and Doug what they think and they both refrain from doing their own votes—Kenny was busy—and you don't really have a chance to vote as Lee.
In the end, the vote count is zero, despite Lilly's intention to consider everybody's opinion.
Well, he said "let a baby die," so I assume he meant that Clementine and to a lesser degree Kenny were trusting her to protect the baby, which she returned without. While Kenny flipping out and trying to kill her for it was a bit much(more like a psychotic breakdown, but whatever), she unfortunately brought it on herself.
She explicitly said that she didn't kill the newborn and that it was an accident. If it was an "accident," then she was telling Kenny that she didn't let it happen on purpose.
Just be sure of what you say.
We both agree that she brought it on herself, for sure! Showing how fastly Kenny could lose his temper appears to have been part of the plan, and surely, the fight sequence came as a direct result of it.
By the way, I don't mean that she deserved to die nor that Kenny was justified on killing her.
Well, he said "let a baby die," so I assume he meant that Clementine and to a lesser degree Kenny were trusting her to protect the baby, whi… morech she returned without. While Kenny flipping out and trying to kill her for it was a bit much(more like a psychotic breakdown, but whatever), she unfortunately brought it on herself.
Well, I was actually talking about her behavior, actions, and attitude leading up to that, which made Kenny feel like he shouldn't trust her around the baby, but her deliberately staging it didn't help either.
We both agree that she brought it on herself, for sure! Showing how fastly Kenny could lose his temper appears to have been part of the plan… more, and surely, the fight sequence came as a direct result of it.
By the way, I don't mean that she deserved to die nor that Kenny was justified on killing her.
She was nosy, annoying, a know-it-all, cocky, she couldn't even figure out a simple radio, she was bland and uninteresting and she instigated shit with Lilly that lead to her death and yet Telltale treats Lilly as the traitor.
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry?
Nope. Especially when he went all "it had to be done", well of course easier to say when it's not a member of your family Kenny right? I called him out on his BS, he's all talk. Quite an interesting parallel in season when I was forced to put down Sarita.
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV?
I forgave Lilly for both, tbh I'm quite surprised she stayed with the group for so long after Larry's death. I don't blame her for leaving. I hesitated between leaving her and letting her come with us after she killed Carley but like Lee said, leaving her would have been the same as murder.
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine?
Yeah, though I would have liked the option to say mean things to her, the game literally forced me to sympathize with her from episode 2 onward.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew?
Yeah, even if it was stupid decision.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group?
Can't blame her really, Kenny was starting to loose it and pretty much admitted he doesn't care what they fought. It's his way or nothing so I think they did what they thought was best.
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts?
Nope. I don't like being manipulated to do something and I already knew Kenny was loosing it I didn't need her to tell me that. Wasn't a difficult choice really. Shoot Kenny>go alone. Truly the best choice as far as I'm concerned.
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry? I was with Kenny with this choice anyway
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV? I left her behind so I cannot answer this, but wouldn't if I had the option in-game
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine? Yes, she's a nice lady deep down, it was just the pregnancy and stress talking.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew? Yeah, he'd just lost his Uncle so I thought I'd give him a break.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group? Yeah
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts? I killed Jane...
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I'm not a big Kenny fan either but I don't extremely hate him. Yet, I still feel a tiny bit regretful at the option of killing him in the end of Season 2. But I made my choice and I will live with it.
Kinda wish the edit function worked. This could use some tweaking to expand your horizons.
He didn't leave me and I agreed with his decision in the meat locker, there was nothing to forgive.
No.
Yes, it was understandable considering the situation. And she called Clementine family in EP4, which was very sweet.
He did a really dumb thing but he was just trying to protect his friends, he was alright.
No way. Taking all the supplies and leaving the rest of the group to die is unforgivable.
You can't forgive a corpse.
Eventually, yes. I hated him and that was a reason I hated him, but my Lee did worse than he did on a few occasions. Besides, I see where he was coming from.
Of course. I hated Carley and her shooting Doug was completely an accident. Lilly had her reasons, and she's still overall one of the most interesting characters of Season 1.
Yeah. Clem kind of deserved it. She made stupid decisions and was a bitch, although I suppose it's Telltale's fault for not giving us a choice.
Kind of. Nick was pretty fucking stupid for shooting Matthew, and he doesn't deserve a free pass on it, but he was genuinely apologetic for doing so and accepted his fate for his irrational decisions.
Yeah, definitely. She worked for a crazed psychopath that would have killed her would she not have.
Gee, I wonder how I feel about this topic?
"Jane is my favorite character of Season Two." "Jane in a lot of ways was in the right for her decisions, no matter how dumb her decisions seemed on the outside." "I fucking love Jane." "Jane is like the most attractive character in the game." "I hate Kenny." ~ Me, 2016
Yeah, definitely forgive her.
Damn fam, that's pretty edgy.
Pretending you let a baby die withholds you from all edge protection, no matter the intentions.
Leaving the baby in dangerous conditions and potentially getting someone killed over it even more so.
Care to explain why you'd forgive Lilly but not Nick for the people they'd shot?
Same although the same can't be said for everyone who likes to hold grudges
Why did you hate Carley out of interest?
She was nosy, annoying, a know-it-all, cocky, she couldn't even figure out a simple radio, she was bland and uninteresting and she instigated shit with Lilly that lead to her death and yet Telltale treats Lilly as the traitor.
That is also extremely edgy. Yet oddly poetic.
She explicitly said that she didn't kill the newborn and that it was an accident. If it was an "accident," then she was telling Kenny that she didn't let it happen on purpose.
Just be sure of what you say.
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry?
In Season 1, Kenny had made it rather difficult for me to forgive his actions and attitude towards Lee and the others, but I had a sense of begrudging respect towards him and I did learn to forgive him at the end of Season 1. Then come Season 2 and seeing how Kenny had refused to learn from his experience and having grown worse as a person, along with having to put up with his antics one more as Clementine, I have come to find that whatever respect I had for him had completely diminished.
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV?
I have forgiven Lilly a long time ago, and while I didn't necessarily approve of what she had done, I had understood how the circumstances behind the death of her father, the destruction of the group's safe haven, and how little trust and support she had left from her group after the theft and bandit attack, had all lead to her breakdown. After experiencing Season 2 for myself, I found myself appreciating Lilly even more.
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine?
While I did forgive Rebecca's horrid attitude towards Clementine since their first meeting, I was rather disappointed that the next episode had completely glossed over how vile Rebecca had acted towards a scared 11 year old who was permanently separated from her surrogate mother of two years after a bandit attack, and was locked up in a shed to die over a suspected walker bite. I understand that Rebecca was heavily pregnant at the time, but the sudden shift from detesting and advocating the death of Clementine, to suddenly liking her the next morning, was rather baffling.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew?
I forgave Nick for shooting Matthew, even though I recognized that he definitely made a stupid and impulsive mistake that caused someone to needlessly die. Nevertheless, it was clear to me that the event had greatly affected Nick and he was shown to feel guilty enough to owe up to his mistake to Walter, which was more than enough for me to convince Walter to spare him.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group?
For the first scene I forgave Bonnie, as I understood that she was merely following orders from Carver who at the time supposedly had a good reason to want the Cabin Group back in his community, and wasn't going to kill anyone until Kenny forced his hand. For the second scene, I had found the entire event to be very out-of-character (mainly the theft of all of the supplies while everyone had slept) and had felt railroaded into demonizing characters who disagreed with Kenny, that I couldn't take the scene seriously. In fact, I wanted to go with Bonnie, Mike, and Arvo the first opportunity I had, as I had no reason to remain with either Kenny or Jane.
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts?
While it was an idiotic and needlessly reckless plan, I was already on Jane's side regarding about disagreeing with the plan to venture towards an unknown destination while up against a blizzard. Had Jane simply asked me if I wanted to go to Wellington, and I was given the option to say 'no', the plan wouldn't need to proceed and I would leave with Jane. Kenny didn't have to die, but I wasn't going to let him murder someone for a crime he had no proof that Jane had committed.
Probably because Lilly had been growing paranoid for a while, started pointing fingers when she realized her private stash had been getting messed with, tried to threaten her and Ben with exile, and, as revealed in the Doug scenario, probably would've considered executing Ben on the spot without a true confession or so much as a vote against him, which she suggested in the first place. Her just up and taking the life of one of her group members into her own hands was crossing the line and the Doug scenario is even worse about that.
You're right that Carley got herself killed by brashly standing up to Lilly at the wrong time, and arguably about some of the other stuff, but she was just trying to stand up for Ben(who wasn't really capable of doing the same for himself despite doing so for her mere seconds ago) and backing up Lee's approach. Lilly shooting her in response was too much, but I can at least give her some slack since she was not emotionally stable at the time.
That is incorrect!
Ben is the one who suggested that the group would vote, but then he regrets it and tells Lilly that they do not need to vote. The latter will ask Kenny and Doug what they think and they both refrain from doing their own votes—Kenny was busy—and you don't really have a chance to vote as Lee.
In the end, the vote count is zero, despite Lilly's intention to consider everybody's opinion.
Oh, you know what, you're right. I mainly recall Lilly agreeing that it was a good idea and asking everyone for their two cents.
But yeah, the fact that Lilly decided she should just up and kill Ben without his confession or the group's approval is what made me leave her on my first (Saved Doug) playthrough. We don't just kill each other; that would make us not so different from the Bandits.
Well, he said "let a baby die," so I assume he meant that Clementine and to a lesser degree Kenny were trusting her to protect the baby, which she returned without. While Kenny flipping out and trying to kill her for it was a bit much(more like a psychotic breakdown, but whatever), she unfortunately brought it on herself.
We both agree that she brought it on herself, for sure! Showing how fastly Kenny could lose his temper appears to have been part of the plan, and surely, the fight sequence came as a direct result of it.
By the way, I don't mean that she deserved to die nor that Kenny was justified on killing her.
Well, I was actually talking about her behavior, actions, and attitude leading up to that, which made Kenny feel like he shouldn't trust her around the baby, but her deliberately staging it didn't help either.
Wow i think the complete opposite of everything you said about Carley. Oh well
It's okay if you disagree man. It's all opinion and I respect yours.
Nope. Especially when he went all "it had to be done", well of course easier to say when it's not a member of your family Kenny right? I called him out on his BS, he's all talk. Quite an interesting parallel in season when I was forced to put down Sarita.
I forgave Lilly for both, tbh I'm quite surprised she stayed with the group for so long after Larry's death. I don't blame her for leaving. I hesitated between leaving her and letting her come with us after she killed Carley but like Lee said, leaving her would have been the same as murder.
Yeah, though I would have liked the option to say mean things to her, the game literally forced me to sympathize with her from episode 2 onward.
Yeah, even if it was stupid decision.
Can't blame her really, Kenny was starting to loose it and pretty much admitted he doesn't care what they fought. It's his way or nothing so I think they did what they thought was best.
Nope. I don't like being manipulated to do something and I already knew Kenny was loosing it I didn't need her to tell me that. Wasn't a difficult choice really. Shoot Kenny>go alone. Truly the best choice as far as I'm concerned.
Did you forgive Kenny for leaving Lee (determinant) and killing/putting down Larry? I was with Kenny with this choice anyway
Did you forgive Lilly for shooting Doug or Carley and stealing the RV? I left her behind so I cannot answer this, but wouldn't if I had the option in-game
Did you forgive Rebecca for being mean to Clementine? Yes, she's a nice lady deep down, it was just the pregnancy and stress talking.
Did you forgive Nick for shooting Matthew? Yeah, he'd just lost his Uncle so I thought I'd give him a break.
Did you forgive Bonnie for lying at the ski lodge and later deserting the group? Yeah
Did you forgive Jane for baiting Kenny and lying about AJ's fate/whereabouts? I killed Jane...