Kenny!
Some people call him "crazy", but why? After all what he has lived, after all he has suffered, he keeps fighting for his own. Kenny didn't tolerate what Arvo's group did, they ambushed them! And Jane was to blame since she stole his pistol. She brought them to them and that caused that situation in which more people could've died. If a person who defends what's fair is crazy, then so be it. Is Comic Rick crazy? In this universe everyone suffer, change, even Clementine herself can change depending on our attitude, and that doesn't make them crazy, just much stronger and not to be messed with. That's why Kenny is still alive as much as Rick is in the comics, because they aren't stupid and wouldn't tolerate any betrayal or threat.
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A lot of cherry picking facts in this post, there was so much more Kenny did that people find him crazy for. Blaming Clem for Sarita's death, demolishing Carver's face, the constant beating of Arvo, are some of the things on a long list that come to mind.
Good job, dude, buen trabajo
And Killing Jane without any evidence.
^^^^^!!!!
I would also note that Kenny's craziness seemed to have been not necessarily caused, but definitely brought out into the open by the actions of Carver, Taavia, Jane, and Arvo.
I think anyone would turn crazy like him if everyone ganged up on someone like they did too him, actually almost the whole group was starting drama and whispering bad things about him through out the episodes, a big example being in episode 5 and 4 and they really said some things that cut deep like mentioning his family.
plus he has one of the coolest character designs, like what someone truly would look like being a zombie apoc survivor.
Speaking of which, that picture up above looks like a bitchin album cover.
it really does look like something that would be on an album.
Kenny fans who make threads like this just make sensible Kenny fans look like idiots as well sadly. However, it's the same thing over and over. If anyone ever mentions something good or bad about Kenny (although on these forums it's mostly something bad), someone will always say something in response to cause an argument.
Yay some Kenny love! A couple points I disagree with but no matter. I love Kenny, he's my favourite character in S1 and S2.
For one, I don't think Kenny is crazy. I think he is very unstable, but he CAN be reasoned with. He CAN feel empathy. So he's not completely crazy.
However, Kenny has extremely violent tendencies, and that was evident way back in season 1 when he choose to brutally kill Larry (note that I'm not saying what he did was wrong here, just violent), fight Lee on the train, and come close to beating Ben after he confessed his fault for the bandit attack. This only gets worse in season 2 when he shoots Carver's men during a sensitive hostage situation, fights with Mike over doing repair work at Howe's, smash in Carver's face with a crowbar, smash in a zombies face with a crowbar, constantly beat Arvo, and kill Jane on a hunch.
You can argue that Rick has done worse and still can't be called crazy, but that's because he usually does these things with the good of his group in mind. SOME of Kenny's actions are for the good of the group (killing Larry) or what he thinks is good for the group (shooting Carver's men, though that did not end up helping), but usually his actions are short-sighted and benefit only him in taking out his pent up aggression. Sometimes he fights with the very people trying to help him (Lee, Mike, Arvo to an extent) and drives a wedge between his group, which in turn makes them distrustful of him.
Add that to his very stubborn and unfair blaming system (not immediately siding with Lee if you didn't kill Larry but did save his son, blaming Clementine for Sarira's death) and you have someone people will call crazy because he seems unreasonable and violent.
I know he's not completely crazy, he does have the capacity to realize his mistakes and apologize for them, and try to atone for the wrongs he has done. That's just why I don't think his actions are as comparable or as justifiable as Rick's.
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Not a Kensplainer but that is a great pic of him.
IMO he looked better with both of his eyes.
Meat Ynnek
Where?When?How?
Impossible.
That'd be like saying Hitler had a great picture...
...Um, yeah.
KennyDidNothin'Wrong
Throughout the games, particularly if you make certain choices.
Kenny + Explainer. I think it means people who try to explain Kenny's unjustifiable and unexplainable (ok, now I'm just being mean) actions.
I think it was created by (...)IBRAHIM(...) (not really sure) on a thread that's closed now.
Did this really require a new thread? How many times do we need to debate Kenny's actions? Define "crazy". That term is kind of relative to someone's own perception and biases. Most of us are "crazy", if we deem crazy as simply meaning neurotic. In my view, Kenny IS without a doubt crazy by that definition. Is he psychotic? No. He did however suffer from a blind rage and recklessness that made him a danger to other characters. That shouldn't be taken lightly, even though he has many good qualities.
To answer someone.
Kenny regrets that he has to kill Larry and my Lee regrets it too, but let's look at the facts. Larry was out of heart medication and his breathing was due to heart failure happening. Kenny was right, if he turned he would have killed them all, including Clementine. It was regrettable, but necessary. They were locked in a meat locker.
Kenny fights with Lee because he is trying to ignore reality. He knows that Duck is dying, yet he is trying to believe that he has the flu and that's it. My Lee gave him enough time to mourn and told him that he was putting everyone at risk for continuing to drive the train. Kenny can be abrasive at times and requires a respectful check at times.
Ben was brought in by Lee and Kenny. Ben was a coward and inadvertently got Khatja and Duck killed. Kenny was again in the right here. Put yourself in Kenny's shoes for a moment. Ben is said to be 18 in season 1 so he wasn't a kid.
I agree here that Kenny should have thought about this more. Kenny didn't know that Sarita and Walter was in there. Kenny was in the wrong with shooting Johnny in a hostage situation.
Kenny was mad at Luke and his friends for getting him and Clementine captured. Mike was always a coward that hated Kenny and constantly provoked him. Mike was similar to Reggie and told Kenny to shut up and be a servant to Carver. I can't fault Kenny for fighting Mike here.
Carver was a pathetic human being. He killed many people, including Walter and Alvin. He raped Rebecca and thought of people as sheep. He took Kenny's eye and his last words were telling Rebecca that she enjoyed her bedroom time with him. Carver never was going to stop following them, even if he was handicapped. If Kenny had used a gun, the plan would have failed. He used a crowbar due to noise.
Luke and Jane failed to keep watch and walkers were showing up. Kenny distracted the walkers from getting to Rebecca or the group. Kenny killing a walker with a crowbar doesn't bother me.
Jane left a baby in a cold car with it snowing and walkers lurking. That could have got Aj killed alone, but I'll elaborate. Jane tried to brainwash Clem by saying that Kenny had lost it by provoking him. She says that she lost AJ and told Kenny to bring it. Kenny loved that kid and was the only one helping Rebecca with AJ. Jane hated AJ. Kenny said that she could have ended the fight by saying that AJ was ok. He said that she was selfish always about herself. He's right again seriously. She caused a fight to the death to prove an obvious point. If you push someone, they will retaliate.
But the group barely ganged up on Kenny before Episode 5 - they chose to give him space and what they were whispering were questions like "Is Kenny ok?" - that's showing concern more than 'starting drama'.
Not always, her personality, like every choice-based game protagonist's personality, is based almost entirely on dialogue choices and can change rapidly.
I think its pretty clear that each character has an established personality that shine's during non-choice related moments in cutscenes. Yes, we can choose what they say, what they're feeling, and how they make decisions, but there is a clear character that comes with each aspect.
Kenny was trying to protect everyone that goes wrong somehow because of disagreement, he is like a family of Clem in my save game atleast
Which is where allot of choice-based games seem to fall short on sadly![:\](https://community.telltale.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
I think your thread is good, but unfortunately almost every single thread regarding either Kenny or Jane, always ends up in people arguing and fighting among the point where a moderator steps in and close it.
Again I think your throat is very good, unfortunately just given the history on these types of forms, I'm afraid that it's not going to last for very long, unless members on here can be civil to each other.
This kenny again really
That maybe get you sick people if you didn't Realize the simple truth
That not every one like kenny and not every give a damn thing if you liked him or not
What coming guys you gonna hate me for it but that what i 5hink is true and my opinion
kenny fans you don't have the right to play it innocence cuz one from the mainreason that make kenny one from the hated characters in the walking dead after season two ending
Thier is to kined of the playthrough of the walking dead in youtube
_Who look a way :in every singl play through of those i didnt read some comment like (you asshole you why you looked a way why you didnt shoot)
_who shoot kenny : i read it a lot of that kined of real shit from kenny's fans like(you basterd you shoot kenny /you asshole why /fuck you/fuck every one who shoot kenny and didn't stick with him til the end) like that and more exclusively on youtube a comment like this to some one he made his own choice and buy the game by his own money and another people who watch him and did rdo his same choice read comnents like those its only make thing worst and worst and give more heatred to kenny cuz the prople disrespect other because of him
So kenny fans don't blame people because of what they think about kenny blame your self of what make of keny of the veiw of others
SORRY FOR THAT
PEACE
I doubt Ben is 18 years old. He was still going to school, I believe he's 16.
Hey now. It was @Kennyshouldadiedins1 who proposed the names Kensplainers (which was initially Kenny Apologists) and Janiacs.
And I made Kensplainer.....and these names will mean nothing after A New Frontier.
Oh, ok, sorry. Must've gotten you two mixed up!
Why? Do you want a complete blank slate to play as?
I want to come here and stop the bashing on Kenny for once. Kenny isn't crazy. He's realistic and any person that has went through what he's went through would find themselves on the edge. Beating in Carver's face wasn't crazy. It was vengeance and someone who beat you until you couldn't see out of your eye you'd probably want to beat to death too. Especially if they're holding you against your will to be their little slave. Beating up Arvo was indeed too much however and unnecessary but not uncalled for. Arvo nearly had them all killed and shouldn't have gotten off with no punishment and then pretty much caused Luke's death as well, in TODAY's society that wouldn't fly in most places. Now blaming Clementine for Sarita's death was totally uncalled for. And Kenny apologized for that fact, he realized he was wrong and apologized and said he should've went with her the entire time, that she was his light in his darkness so I don't see how he was necessarily crazy but just broken for it. Did Kenny do anything wrong? Of course he did he's human, more human than all of the other character's in Season 2. But does that make him crazy? No. Btw this whole "oh boo he killed jane he tried to kill her with no evidence" is bullshit. He asked her where AJ was like five times and looked outside himself. There's was no telling if the baby was dead or alive but it was sure to be dead sooner than later with that blizzard out and walkers everywhere. Was he wrong for trying to hit her? Idk I would have done the same to get her to tell me where. But Jane was the one trying to kill Kenny however that's the whole reason she hid AJ, to either kill him or make him leave. Kenny never punched her or anything. She was the one landing the blows and she was the one who gave him the first mortal wound by slashing him in his abdomen. I would have killed her just for that imo. Then she chased HIM outside where she could have easily run off like my Clem told her to. She brought the weapon and aggressively agitated Kenny, she was asking to be killed. In fact Kenny says "I'll KILL you!" and Jane responds "Yes! I knew you would!" as if she's getting a birthday present.
Well, public confession of baby killing is a pretty convincing evidence...
Well, there are plenty of people attending school who'd be 18, so it's still very possible that Ben could've been of that age. I don't think it's ever been confirmed, though, like most of the character's ages.
Thank you for this.
What confession? Jane never clearly states to Kenny that Jane had caused the baby to die.