A couple points... coming from a "Kenny basher," so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. Or a block, and then crush an unconscious man's face in with it. Your choice.
He's realistic and any person that has went through what he's went through would find themselves on the edge
Have you went through what he went through? I don't understand this sentiment that if it's good (or in this case, "realistic") enough for someone to do, then it's good enough for anyone. And, really? He's realistic? Cause my rebound would be the very line Kenny spoke to Clem. "I got lucky... real lucky."
Beating in Carver's face wasn't crazy
I'd disagree. I think meticulously circling around a person who's just been shot twice by the same guy contemplating a kind-of orgasmic release and building copious amounts of rage all while death by other goons draws more imminent is a very viable sign of someone who would also wear tin-foil hats. Added on to that, the very person he deemed to protect could determinedly watch him as he rends flesh and skull matter from a face and it doesn't even slightly phase his change-of-will to try and lead by example.
So, besides it being pretty fucking nuts, it's also downright selfish. And where have we seen Kenny being selfish before?
he's human, more human than all of the other character's in Season 2
If that's being a human, strap reflector tape to my gentiles and call me an alien cause sheesh.
Kenny never punched her or anything
No, he was just strangling her against a glass door while screaming that he'll kill her. A man who has had, as Jane saw, firsthand experience badly battering and nearly killing someone by beating them to death while a child and woman sit helplessly freezing to death. I guess his compassion really knows no bounds, huh?
I want to come here and stop the bashing on Kenny for once. Kenny isn't crazy. He's realistic and any person that has went through what he's… more went through would find themselves on the edge. Beating in Carver's face wasn't crazy. It was vengeance and someone who beat you until you couldn't see out of your eye you'd probably want to beat to death too. Especially if they're holding you against your will to be their little slave. Beating up Arvo was indeed too much however and unnecessary but not uncalled for. Arvo nearly had them all killed and shouldn't have gotten off with no punishment and then pretty much caused Luke's death as well, in TODAY's society that wouldn't fly in most places. Now blaming Clementine for Sarita's death was totally uncalled for. And Kenny apologized for that fact, he realized he was wrong and apologized and said he should've went with her the entire time, that she was his light in his darkness so I don't see how he was… [view original content]
Well, there are plenty of people attending school who'd be 18, so it's still very possible that Ben could've been of that age. I don't think it's ever been confirmed, though, like most of the character's ages.
Haha see? When someone says a different opinion, you come along and start with the usual negatives trying your way of "convincing" he or she is wrong? See? Work's both ways!
A couple points... coming from a "Kenny basher," so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. Or a block, and then crush an unconscio… moreus man's face in with it. Your choice.
He's realistic and any person that has went through what he's went through would find themselves on the edge
Have you went through what he went through? I don't understand this sentiment that if it's good (or in this case, "realistic") enough for someone to do, then it's good enough for anyone. And, really? He's realistic? Cause my rebound would be the very line Kenny spoke to Clem. "I got lucky... real lucky."
Beating in Carver's face wasn't crazy
I'd disagree. I think meticulously circling around a person who's just been shot twice by the same guy contemplating a kind-of orgasmic release and building copious amounts of rage all while death by other goons draws more imminent is a very viable sign of someone who would also wear tin-foil ha… [view original content]
I relate with Kenny because I've lost most of my family. I know how that feels and everyone knows the feeling of a situation where things just get worse and worse and you become so irritated with it because nothing is making it better, when that situation is your life it's so much more draining. When Kenny told Clementine he got lucky it wasn't unrealistic it's just how it went and obviously he didn't want to share the gritty details, when you escape things that you thought should have killed you it haunts you and you do feel lucky but not in a great way all the time. Also he didn't circle Carver like that neither did he show that killing Carver pleased him that much, you're just making shit up he was giving time for everyone to leave, even Clementine. Also Kenny was damn near extremely pissed at Carver he didn't care if she wanted to watch and see the person who killed Alvin, Reggie, and Walter be killed, none of that was selfish that was her choice he even warned her to leave. Also I just replayed that scene and Kenny never said he would kill her until they were outside all he said was "Fuck you" so again you're making shit up. And Kenny did that because he saw Arvo as the reason for them being freezing as Jane said, Kenny was in a dark place and dark places make your compassion put itself in the wrong places.
A couple points... coming from a "Kenny basher," so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. Or a block, and then crush an unconscio… moreus man's face in with it. Your choice.
He's realistic and any person that has went through what he's went through would find themselves on the edge
Have you went through what he went through? I don't understand this sentiment that if it's good (or in this case, "realistic") enough for someone to do, then it's good enough for anyone. And, really? He's realistic? Cause my rebound would be the very line Kenny spoke to Clem. "I got lucky... real lucky."
Beating in Carver's face wasn't crazy
I'd disagree. I think meticulously circling around a person who's just been shot twice by the same guy contemplating a kind-of orgasmic release and building copious amounts of rage all while death by other goons draws more imminent is a very viable sign of someone who would also wear tin-foil ha… [view original content]
Added on to that, the very person he deemed to protect could determinedly watch him as he rends flesh and skull matter from a face and it doesn't even slightly phase his change-of-will to try and lead by example.
Really? Even though he asks her to leave before hand and warns of what she would be witnessing. If anyone should be to blame it's Clem for determinantely choosing to watch. If a man bashes your fucking eye in, your not going to take that lightly. Revenge would come to anyone's mind unlesss your a buddhist or a saint. And Kenny ain't no saint, you know that. But look up the true definition of someone who is crazy or a psychopath and then get back to me
A couple points... coming from a "Kenny basher," so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. Or a block, and then crush an unconscio… moreus man's face in with it. Your choice.
He's realistic and any person that has went through what he's went through would find themselves on the edge
Have you went through what he went through? I don't understand this sentiment that if it's good (or in this case, "realistic") enough for someone to do, then it's good enough for anyone. And, really? He's realistic? Cause my rebound would be the very line Kenny spoke to Clem. "I got lucky... real lucky."
Beating in Carver's face wasn't crazy
I'd disagree. I think meticulously circling around a person who's just been shot twice by the same guy contemplating a kind-of orgasmic release and building copious amounts of rage all while death by other goons draws more imminent is a very viable sign of someone who would also wear tin-foil ha… [view original content]
Haha see? When someone says a different opinion, you come along and start with the usual negatives trying your way of "convincing" he or she is wrong? See? Work's both ways!
Oh buddy, you got me Dan.
At least I don't type up comments like...
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This has nothing to do with this thread. Go and wank off over this gif somewhere else as you love it so much
I'm not quite that stern yet, maybe one day I'll learn the argumentative techniques of insulting people.
If anyone should be to blame it's Clem for determinantely choosing to watch
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older? I mean, that kind of stuff happens all the time and it's typically called statutory rape because much like everything else children aren't posed to influence much older people's decision making.
If anything, It would at least be respectful to take into consideration that a very mentally fragile girl is witnessing another man get his face curbed and Kenny doesn't even attempt to wave her away as a sign of retaining some semblance of decency.
I mean, I'm not out of line thinking that a guardian should lead by example am I?
I'd disagree.
Ohh of course you do lol.
Added on to that, the very person he deemed to protect could determinedly watch him as… more he rends flesh and skull matter from a face and it doesn't even slightly phase his change-of-will to try and lead by example.
Really? Even though he asks her to leave before hand and warns of what she would be witnessing. If anyone should be to blame it's Clem for determinantely choosing to watch. If a man bashes your fucking eye in, your not going to take that lightly. Revenge would come to anyone's mind unlesss your a buddhist or a saint. And Kenny ain't no saint, you know that. But look up the true definition of someone who is crazy or a psychopath and then get back to me
Lol yes true but you were asking for a response like that and you got it!
Thing is man, deep down you know I don't hate you and what i say may seem extreme at times but only because i feel passionately about certain things
No that's not even close in context. In context if you wanted to make it sexual it would be like having sex and letting a younger person watch. Because nothing was happening to Clementine she was just witnessing.
If anyone should be to blame it's Clem for determinantely choosing to watch
Does that natural law apply to young underage children w… moreho choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older? I mean, that kind of stuff happens all the time and it's typically called statutory rape because much like everything else children aren't posed to influence much older people's decision making.
If anything, It would at least be respectful to take into consideration that a very mentally fragile girl is witnessing another man get his face curbed and Kenny doesn't even attempt to wave her away as a sign of retaining some semblance of decency.
I mean, I'm not out of line thinking that a guardian should lead by example am I?
No that's not even close in context. In context if you wanted to make it sexual it would be like having sex and letting a younger person watch. Because nothing was happening to Clementine she was just witnessing.
I've checked a walkthrough video for the lines, and these are what was said in the beginning of the fight:
Kenny: How could you kill a FUCKING CHILD?!
Jane: I didn't kill him! It was an ACCIDENT, Kenny.
What Jane said doesn't necessarily classify as manslaughter homicide, especially when all Jane had to say at the time was that she didn't kill the baby, and implied that the baby's death was an accident of some sort.
She said, clearly, that it was her fault, altough not saying that she directly killed him.
Kenny: How could you kill a fucking baby?
… more It was an ACCIDENT Kenny!
I'm not sure ( Not a native speaker ), but it would classify as manslaughter homicide.
It's not his kid and really if she was peeping and it's not his kid and he told her not to she would be breaking the law if she was older but yeah none of that is breaking any laws as far as Kenny is concerned. He told her it wouldn't be for her eyes, he told her to leave, he's not going to force her to go. That was her choice.
it would be like having sex and letting a younger person watch
I'm fairly certain that still breaks many legal child safety laws.
So my point still holds ground.
but yeah none of that is breaking any laws as far as Kenny is concerned
So, Kenny is a statutory rapist confirmed? I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly.
Unless you're implying that Kenny's self-control really is that weak that he was so caught up in his murdering that he didn't care who was watching or it wouldn't have mattered what Clementine said?
It's not his kid and really if she was peeping and it's not his kid and he told her not to she would be breaking the law if she was older bu… moret yeah none of that is breaking any laws as far as Kenny is concerned. He told her it wouldn't be for her eyes, he told her to leave, he's not going to force her to go. That was her choice.
Where are you getting with these accusations? He didn't do anything to Clementine. I'm not sure what you're getting at. And it did matter what she said. She said she wasn't going to leave after Kenny warned her and that mattered so he let her do what she wanted as he wasn't her parent and like he said to her she took care of herself more than three grown men put together.
but yeah none of that is breaking any laws as far as Kenny is concerned
So, Kenny is a statutory rapist confirmed? I'm not sure what… more you're getting at exactly.
Unless you're implying that Kenny's self-control really is that weak that he was so caught up in his murdering that he didn't care who was watching or it wouldn't have mattered what Clementine said?
I will admit, making this comment is leaving me a little nervous. It seems that the vast majority of users here have a very erm...passionate opinion on Kenny's character (including myself). I guess I'll type my very basic, overall thoughts on Kenny.
Well first of all, I do love Kenny. Yeah, we're bros5lyfe, which is more than 4 life, but I won't deny that he could be seen in a very negative light. He's violent, quick to anger, rash, very opinionated, ect. I could honestly go on for awhile here.
Additonally, his stability is questionable, but not without reason. (He is not crazy, in my opinion.) I don't want to repeat what has already been said a thousand times, but yeah, that could have to do with pretty much everyone he cares about dying. I will add that this, however, does not excuse his actions. Some of the things that Kenny has done are down right despicable. The fact that Kenny's intuition on certain topics was proved "right", doesn't make his questionable actions acceptable.
He's also a character that can be looked at in a lot of different ways. He's selfish to some, selfless to others. (Both is more like it) He's just very grey overall. He's a guy that, if he considers you family, will follow you to the end of the world. He'd do anything to assure a loved one's happiness. Anything. (Which is both good and bad, honestly) He also always did try to do what he thought was best for the group.
I know Kensplainers like myself always go on about intentions, intentions, but I guess I'll go there. The majority of the time, they're in the right place. (Meat-locker, Wellington, Season 1 death) Other times, not so much. (Carver, Arvo) He's done alot of "good" in addition to the "bad", and some of the "bad" can be justified.
This mainly focused on the negatives of Kenny, oddly enough. Here are some brief descriptions of what I consider to be his positives:
He's always been a character that I could rely on. He was always there for me in my playthrough, and we've experienced so much together during this wild ride.
He seems to always want to help, but internal and external obstacles keep him from doing so. Despite me loving the guy, some of his characteristics do make him a danger. But still, he's always helped me throughout both seasons, so I won't just abandon him. It's very understandable that people would not want to stay with Kenny. He can be dangerous, and that is not a trivial matter. However, a lot of it isn't intentional.
From a logical perspective, Kenny may not be the best chance at survival. The decision to be with Kenny seems to be more of an emotional and idealistic choice. (Not saying the Jane endings are cold) He has a lot of positives and a lot of negatives. It's arguable that the bad outweighs the good, but in my opinion it simply doesn't.
(Sorry for any typos. I'm in a rush, and I will clean this up later. Also, sorry for some of the redundancy here. I kept re-treading some old ground, but like I said, I'll fix it up later.)
So she can make decision's based on watching something that'd happen on a regular episode of Game of Thrones, but the next episode Kenny won't let her down a bit of whiskey or whatever the hell was in that bottle of alcohol?
See, either the writing of Kenny is flimsy and baseless or he's a dick.
But then again, I suppose Clementine could've already witnessed Kenny's decision-making skills up close so it shouldn't matter in the long run that he'd repeat his typical knee-jerk response of viciously maiming others to exact a personal quota of revenge.
Where are you getting with these accusations? He didn't do anything to Clementine. I'm not sure what you're getting at. And it did matter wh… moreat she said. She said she wasn't going to leave after Kenny warned her and that mattered so he let her do what she wanted as he wasn't her parent and like he said to her she took care of herself more than three grown men put together.
Letting her watch vengeance and letting her damage her growing brain are two different things, that's not being an asshole, one is watching where nothing is happening to you and another is acting stupidly and potentially messing up your head. Not letting a child drink alcohol is not a dick move it's the move recommended by 10/10 doctors. btw I saw Akira as a kid and started watching got around her age.
So she can make decision's based on watching something that'd happen on a regular episode of Game of Thrones, but the next episode Kenny won… more't let her down a bit of whiskey or whatever the hell was in that bottle of alcohol?
See, either the writing of Kenny is flimsy and baseless or he's a dick.
But then again, I suppose Clementine could've already witnessed Kenny's decision-making skills up close so it shouldn't matter in the long run that he'd repeat his typical knee-jerk response of viciously maiming others to exact a personal quota of revenge.
FINALLY, a comment that articulately lists the good and bad of Kenny's character without fabricating anything or pushing butt-rupturing idiot Jane into a limelight of comparisons!
I will admit, making this comment is leaving me a little nervous. It seems that the vast majority of users here have a very erm...passionate… more opinion on Kenny's character (including myself). I guess I'll type my very basic, overall thoughts on Kenny.
Well first of all, I do love Kenny. Yeah, we're bros5lyfe, which is more than 4 life, but I won't deny that he could be seen in a very negative light. He's violent, quick to anger, rash, very opinionated, ect. I could honestly go on for awhile here.
Additonally, his stability is questionable, but not without reason. (He is not crazy, in my opinion.) I don't want to repeat what has already been said a thousand times, but yeah, that could have to do with pretty much everyone he cares about dying. I will add that this, however, does not excuse his actions. Some of the things that Kenny has done are down right despicable. The fact that Kenny's intuition on certain topics was proved "right", does… [view original content]
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older?
it would be like having sex and letting a younger person watch. Because nothing was happening to Clementine she was just witnessing.
So, Kenny is a statutory rapist confirmed?
If that's being a human, strap reflector tape to my gentiles and call me an alien cause sheesh.
At least my comments don't involve enjoyment of seeing someone (real or not doesn't matter) getting shot in head and you constantly being negative in every single post. There's enough negativity in the world as it is. At least i always look on the positive side of things even though sometimes i have to be negative (such as defending a favourite character) in order to be positive.
FINALLY, a comment that articulately lists the good and bad of Kenny's character without fabricating anything or pushing butt-rupturing idiot Jane into a limelight of comparisons!
Pinch me I must be dreaming!
I'm presenting a comparison between Kenny allowing Clem to witness a very contemptible action and Kenny later, after stating she was mature and wise enough to make those kinds of enormous decisions, stating she couldn't join in on a celebratory occasion and just harmlessly sip a bit of liquor.
So in Kenny's head, having a child enjoy herself and take a bit of stress off of her shoulders (maybe also helping her sleep) is bad but him allowing her to witness a death as grotesque is ok?
Letting her watch vengeance and letting her damage her growing brain are two different things, that's not being an asshole, one is watching … morewhere nothing is happening to you and another is acting stupidly and potentially messing up your head. Not letting a child drink alcohol is not a dick move it's the move recommended by 10/10 doctors. btw I saw Akira as a kid and started watching got around her age.
Idk Kenny basher is on the loose. I only replied with that sex thing because I said if they wanted to sexualize it would be more like that but personally idk what's wrong with them.
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older?
it would be like having sex… more and letting a younger person watch. Because nothing was happening to Clementine she was just witnessing.
So, Kenny is a statutory rapist confirmed?
If that's being a human, strap reflector tape to my gentiles and call me an alien cause sheesh.
WhAT iS GOIN ON HERE!?!
At least i always look on the positive side of things even though sometimes i have to be negative (such as defending a favourite character) in order to be positive
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Go and wank off over this gif somewhere else as you love it so much
At least my comments don't involve enjoyment of seeing someone (real or not doesn't matter) getting shot in head and you constantly being ne… moregative in every single post. There's enough negativity in the world as it is. At least i always look on the positive side of things even though sometimes i have to be negative (such as defending a favourite character) in order to be positive.
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older?
There is no natural law in an apocalypse.
If anything, It would at least be respectful to take into consideration that a very mentally fragile girl is witnessing another man get his face curbed and Kenny doesn't even attempt to wave her away as a sign of retaining some semblance of decency.
I mean, I'm not out of line thinking that a guardian should lead by example am I?
Did you not read what I said? I told you that he asked her to leave so she wouldn't see what was happening, if she said "I'm staying" he still warns her that it could get messy which is also hinting that she should go. He wasn't going to force her to leave for god sake! But then if he had pushed her out you'd STILL find something negative to say about that.
If anyone should be to blame it's Clem for determinantely choosing to watch
Does that natural law apply to young underage children w… moreho choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older? I mean, that kind of stuff happens all the time and it's typically called statutory rape because much like everything else children aren't posed to influence much older people's decision making.
If anything, It would at least be respectful to take into consideration that a very mentally fragile girl is witnessing another man get his face curbed and Kenny doesn't even attempt to wave her away as a sign of retaining some semblance of decency.
I mean, I'm not out of line thinking that a guardian should lead by example am I?
What has this comment chain derailed to?
I'm presenting a comparison between Kenny allowing Clem to witness a very contemptible action an… mored Kenny later, after stating she was mature and wise enough to make those kinds of enormous decisions, stating she couldn't join in on a celebratory occasion and just harmlessly sip a bit of liquor.
So in Kenny's head, having a child enjoy herself and take a bit of stress off of her shoulders (maybe also helping her sleep) is bad but him allowing her to witness a death as grotesque is ok?
Don't worry, this guy you are replying to is by far the worst Kenny hater on here. He'll be negative till he's blue in the face no matter what you say lol
Letting her watch vengeance and letting her damage her growing brain are two different things, that's not being an asshole, one is watching … morewhere nothing is happening to you and another is acting stupidly and potentially messing up your head. Not letting a child drink alcohol is not a dick move it's the move recommended by 10/10 doctors. btw I saw Akira as a kid and started watching got around her age.
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older?
it would be like having sex… more and letting a younger person watch. Because nothing was happening to Clementine she was just witnessing.
So, Kenny is a statutory rapist confirmed?
If that's being a human, strap reflector tape to my gentiles and call me an alien cause sheesh.
WhAT iS GOIN ON HERE!?!
Yes in response to something negative that you posted. And i did say i had to be negative in order to be positive. And to me it's positive when i'm defending one of my favourite characters. Still true though, you love it so much so why don't you? Plus wanking is positive anyway lol.
And what i was meaning by my post was that I don't ever criticise characters in disturbing ways that you do
At least i always look on the positive side of things even though sometimes i have to be negative (such as defending a favourite character) … morein order to be positive
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Go and wank off over this gif somewhere else as you love it so much
Such positivity, much enjoyment, wow.
Jesus Christ, I'm laughing so hard right now. Did you just admit that statutory rape is acceptable because natural law would become a mere fallacy in a post-apocalypse?
Cause you're verging dangerously on the line, Dan.
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older?
There is no natural la… morew in an apocalypse.
If anything, It would at least be respectful to take into consideration that a very mentally fragile girl is witnessing another man get his face curbed and Kenny doesn't even attempt to wave her away as a sign of retaining some semblance of decency.
I mean, I'm not out of line thinking that a guardian should lead by example am I?
Did you not read what I said? I told you that he asked her to leave so she wouldn't see what was happening, if she said "I'm staying" he still warns her that it could get messy which is also hinting that she should go. He wasn't going to force her to leave for god sake! But then if he had pushed her out you'd STILL find something negative to say about that.
@BadassMichonne
Don't worry, this guy you are replying to is by far the worst Kenny hater on here. He'll be negative till he's blue in the face no matter what you say lol
Yes in response to something negative that you posted. And i did say i had to be negative in order to be positive. And to me it's positive w… morehen i'm defending one of my favourite characters. Still true though, you love it so much so why don't you? Plus wanking is positive anyway lol.
And what i was meaning by my post was that I don't ever criticise characters in disturbing ways that you do
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She said, clearly, that it was her fault, altough not saying that she directly killed him.
I'm not sure ( Not a native speaker ), but it would classify as manslaughter homicide.
A couple points... coming from a "Kenny basher," so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. Or a block, and then crush an unconscious man's face in with it. Your choice.
Have you went through what he went through? I don't understand this sentiment that if it's good (or in this case, "realistic") enough for someone to do, then it's good enough for anyone. And, really? He's realistic? Cause my rebound would be the very line Kenny spoke to Clem. "I got lucky... real lucky."
I'd disagree. I think meticulously circling around a person who's just been shot twice by the same guy contemplating a kind-of orgasmic release and building copious amounts of rage all while death by other goons draws more imminent is a very viable sign of someone who would also wear tin-foil hats. Added on to that, the very person he deemed to protect could determinedly watch him as he rends flesh and skull matter from a face and it doesn't even slightly phase his change-of-will to try and lead by example.
So, besides it being pretty fucking nuts, it's also downright selfish. And where have we seen Kenny being selfish before?
If that's being a human, strap reflector tape to my gentiles and call me an alien cause sheesh.
No, he was just strangling her against a glass door while screaming that he'll kill her. A man who has had, as Jane saw, firsthand experience badly battering and nearly killing someone by beating them to death while a child and woman sit helplessly freezing to death. I guess his compassion really knows no bounds, huh?
It's still very possible, yes, but he doesn't seem 18 in my eyes. Well, I guess that's just my point of view.
Haha see? When someone says a different opinion, you come along and start with the usual negatives trying your way of "convincing" he or she is wrong? See? Work's both ways!
I relate with Kenny because I've lost most of my family. I know how that feels and everyone knows the feeling of a situation where things just get worse and worse and you become so irritated with it because nothing is making it better, when that situation is your life it's so much more draining. When Kenny told Clementine he got lucky it wasn't unrealistic it's just how it went and obviously he didn't want to share the gritty details, when you escape things that you thought should have killed you it haunts you and you do feel lucky but not in a great way all the time. Also he didn't circle Carver like that neither did he show that killing Carver pleased him that much, you're just making shit up he was giving time for everyone to leave, even Clementine. Also Kenny was damn near extremely pissed at Carver he didn't care if she wanted to watch and see the person who killed Alvin, Reggie, and Walter be killed, none of that was selfish that was her choice he even warned her to leave. Also I just replayed that scene and Kenny never said he would kill her until they were outside all he said was "Fuck you" so again you're making shit up. And Kenny did that because he saw Arvo as the reason for them being freezing as Jane said, Kenny was in a dark place and dark places make your compassion put itself in the wrong places.
Ohh of course you do lol.
Really? Even though he asks her to leave before hand and warns of what she would be witnessing. If anyone should be to blame it's Clem for determinantely choosing to watch. If a man bashes your fucking eye in, your not going to take that lightly. Revenge would come to anyone's mind unlesss your a buddhist or a saint. And Kenny ain't no saint, you know that. But look up the true definition of someone who is crazy or a psychopath and then get back to me
Oh buddy, you got me Dan.
At least I don't type up comments like...
I'm not quite that stern yet, maybe one day I'll learn the argumentative techniques of insulting people.
Eh, gentiles, genitals... basically the same thing. They'd both be taped firmly.
9 out of the 10 voices in my head agree that Kenny isn't crazy.
Lol yes true but you were asking for a response like that and you got it!
Thing is man, deep down you know I don't hate you and what i say may seem extreme at times but only because i feel passionately about certain things
Does that natural law apply to young underage children who choose to get hot'n'heavy with someone much older? I mean, that kind of stuff happens all the time and it's typically called statutory rape because much like everything else children aren't posed to influence much older people's decision making.
If anything, It would at least be respectful to take into consideration that a very mentally fragile girl is witnessing another man get his face curbed and Kenny doesn't even attempt to wave her away as a sign of retaining some semblance of decency.
I mean, I'm not out of line thinking that a guardian should lead by example am I?
So your "passionate" responses are justified yet mine aren't?
No that's not even close in context. In context if you wanted to make it sexual it would be like having sex and letting a younger person watch. Because nothing was happening to Clementine she was just witnessing.
I'm fairly certain that still breaks many legal child safety laws.
So my point still holds ground.
I've checked a walkthrough video for the lines, and these are what was said in the beginning of the fight:
Kenny: How could you kill a FUCKING CHILD?!
Jane: I didn't kill him! It was an ACCIDENT, Kenny.
What Jane said doesn't necessarily classify as manslaughter homicide, especially when all Jane had to say at the time was that she didn't kill the baby, and implied that the baby's death was an accident of some sort.
Yes, cause it wasn't meant at all as a mocking sentiment to an originally fairly flimsy comment.
It's not his kid and really if she was peeping and it's not his kid and he told her not to she would be breaking the law if she was older but yeah none of that is breaking any laws as far as Kenny is concerned. He told her it wouldn't be for her eyes, he told her to leave, he's not going to force her to go. That was her choice.
So, Kenny is a statutory rapist confirmed? I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly.
Unless you're implying that Kenny's self-control really is that weak that he was so caught up in his murdering that he didn't care who was watching or it wouldn't have mattered what Clementine said?
Where are you getting with these accusations? He didn't do anything to Clementine. I'm not sure what you're getting at. And it did matter what she said. She said she wasn't going to leave after Kenny warned her and that mattered so he let her do what she wanted as he wasn't her parent and like he said to her she took care of herself more than three grown men put together.
I will admit, making this comment is leaving me a little nervous. It seems that the vast majority of users here have a very erm...passionate opinion on Kenny's character (including myself). I guess I'll type my very basic, overall thoughts on Kenny.
Well first of all, I do love Kenny. Yeah, we're bros5lyfe, which is more than 4 life, but I won't deny that he could be seen in a very negative light. He's violent, quick to anger, rash, very opinionated, ect. I could honestly go on for awhile here.
Additonally, his stability is questionable, but not without reason. (He is not crazy, in my opinion.) I don't want to repeat what has already been said a thousand times, but yeah, that could have to do with pretty much everyone he cares about dying. I will add that this, however, does not excuse his actions. Some of the things that Kenny has done are down right despicable. The fact that Kenny's intuition on certain topics was proved "right", doesn't make his questionable actions acceptable.
He's also a character that can be looked at in a lot of different ways. He's selfish to some, selfless to others. (Both is more like it) He's just very grey overall. He's a guy that, if he considers you family, will follow you to the end of the world. He'd do anything to assure a loved one's happiness. Anything. (Which is both good and bad, honestly) He also always did try to do what he thought was best for the group.
I know Kensplainers like myself always go on about intentions, intentions, but I guess I'll go there. The majority of the time, they're in the right place. (Meat-locker, Wellington, Season 1 death) Other times, not so much. (Carver, Arvo) He's done alot of "good" in addition to the "bad", and some of the "bad" can be justified.
This mainly focused on the negatives of Kenny, oddly enough. Here are some brief descriptions of what I consider to be his positives:
He's always been a character that I could rely on. He was always there for me in my playthrough, and we've experienced so much together during this wild ride.
He seems to always want to help, but internal and external obstacles keep him from doing so. Despite me loving the guy, some of his characteristics do make him a danger. But still, he's always helped me throughout both seasons, so I won't just abandon him. It's very understandable that people would not want to stay with Kenny. He can be dangerous, and that is not a trivial matter. However, a lot of it isn't intentional.
From a logical perspective, Kenny may not be the best chance at survival. The decision to be with Kenny seems to be more of an emotional and idealistic choice. (Not saying the Jane endings are cold) He has a lot of positives and a lot of negatives. It's arguable that the bad outweighs the good, but in my opinion it simply doesn't.
(Sorry for any typos. I'm in a rush, and I will clean this up later. Also, sorry for some of the redundancy here. I kept re-treading some old ground, but like I said, I'll fix it up later.)
Edit: Fixed up a few typos
So she can make decision's based on watching something that'd happen on a regular episode of Game of Thrones, but the next episode Kenny won't let her down a bit of whiskey or whatever the hell was in that bottle of alcohol?
See, either the writing of Kenny is flimsy and baseless or he's a dick.
But then again, I suppose Clementine could've already witnessed Kenny's decision-making skills up close so it shouldn't matter in the long run that he'd repeat his typical knee-jerk response of viciously maiming others to exact a personal quota of revenge.
Letting her watch vengeance and letting her damage her growing brain are two different things, that's not being an asshole, one is watching where nothing is happening to you and another is acting stupidly and potentially messing up your head. Not letting a child drink alcohol is not a dick move it's the move recommended by 10/10 doctors. btw I saw Akira as a kid and started watching got around her age.
FINALLY, a comment that articulately lists the good and bad of Kenny's character without fabricating anything or pushing butt-rupturing idiot Jane into a limelight of comparisons!
Pinch me I must be dreaming!
WhAT iS GOIN ON HERE!?!
At least my comments don't involve enjoyment of seeing someone (real or not doesn't matter) getting shot in head and you constantly being negative in every single post. There's enough negativity in the world as it is. At least i always look on the positive side of things even though sometimes i have to be negative (such as defending a favourite character) in order to be positive.
I never fabricated anything ;p
What has this comment chain derailed to?
I'm presenting a comparison between Kenny allowing Clem to witness a very contemptible action and Kenny later, after stating she was mature and wise enough to make those kinds of enormous decisions, stating she couldn't join in on a celebratory occasion and just harmlessly sip a bit of liquor.
So in Kenny's head, having a child enjoy herself and take a bit of stress off of her shoulders (maybe also helping her sleep) is bad but him allowing her to witness a death as grotesque is ok?
I never stated you did ;p
Idk Kenny basher is on the loose. I only replied with that sex thing because I said if they wanted to sexualize it would be more like that but personally idk what's wrong with them.
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Such positivity, much enjoyment, wow.
There is no natural law in an apocalypse.
Did you not read what I said? I told you that he asked her to leave so she wouldn't see what was happening, if she said "I'm staying" he still warns her that it could get messy which is also hinting that she should go. He wasn't going to force her to leave for god sake! But then if he had pushed her out you'd STILL find something negative to say about that.
I'm stating it isn't harmless obviously.
well then I had a comment like that as well ;p
@BadassMichonne
Don't worry, this guy you are replying to is by far the worst Kenny hater on here. He'll be negative till he's blue in the face no matter what you say lol
Exactly. Don't ask me what the hell is going on in his head lol
Yes in response to something negative that you posted. And i did say i had to be negative in order to be positive. And to me it's positive when i'm defending one of my favourite characters. Still true though, you love it so much so why don't you? Plus wanking is positive anyway lol.
And what i was meaning by my post was that I don't ever criticise characters in disturbing ways that you do
Rapists welcomed.
Jesus Christ, I'm laughing so hard right now. Did you just admit that statutory rape is acceptable because natural law would become a mere fallacy in a post-apocalypse?
Cause you're verging dangerously on the line, Dan.
Correction.
I'm the BEST Kenny hater on here.
;p X infinity
Hmm, shifting blame onto others? Check.
Constantly justifying owns actions and statements as fair? Check.
Kenny? Is that you?