I'm seeing some comments by people on other sites saying they're done with this show because Abraham/Glenn's deaths were just "too brutal" for them to handle.
Yeah, I’m done. TWD has become a show only masochists can enjoy. Over the top-violence, no glimmer of hope, nothing but despair and death.
I’m done too. Everything is just too horrible and messy for my taste.
Sorry, this was last episode of TWD for our family. This was a great series where people came together because of a world changing event. We watched as family, as it was a good conversation starter on ethics and challenges in tough conditions. Last season Glen’s “death” was a stupid gimmick; with more foolishness to follow. The series now is just a game of how cruel a villain can we create. This opening was just brutal and nasty. The season to come is just going to be how can the group overcome Negan, with more senseless deaths along the way. So long to a series we championed as a great discussion for all.
There comes a point when you can’t take anymore. I’m through with this show.
Absolutely the worst episode in the history of the show. I will never watch this bs again. What was once a fun awesome show has turned into pure garbage. You guys have ruined a perfectly good show. Way to go.
Really people, are you serious? The Walking Dead has always been gruesome, bloody, and has killed plenty of people off in far more gruesome fashion. Hell, Game of Thrones is a million times worse when it comes to the deaths, so why the hell is this a problem now?
I had a friend text me and say that. I'm sure they'll be back. Well, some, not all.
I get the impression that those people don't watch Game of Thrones, heh.
If deaths being too brutal for me were a problem, I would have stopped at like Lori's death in the comics (okay, that one was pretty awful, but still) or at like Mark's death in the game or at Dale's death in the show.
I'm seeing some comments by people on other sites saying they're done with this show because Abraham/Glenn's deaths were just "too brutal" f… moreor them to handle.
Yeah, I’m done. TWD has become a show only masochists can enjoy. Over the top-violence, no glimmer of hope, nothing but despair and death.
I’m done too. Everything is just too horrible and messy for my taste.
Sorry, this was last episode of TWD for our family. This was a great series where people came together because of a world changing event. We watched as family, as it was a good conversation starter on ethics and challenges in tough conditions. Last season Glen’s “death” was a stupid gimmick; with more foolishness to follow. The series now is just a game of how cruel a villain can we create. This opening was just brutal and nasty. The season to come is just going to be how can the group overcome Negan, with more senseless deaths along the way. So long to a series… [view original content]
Exactly. The brutality of the deaths reflect just how sadistic and monstrous people have become. The Walking Dead has always been a show where the people are the threat, not the walkers, and in comes Negan, the baddest of the bad, and people are complaining about him being too evil. Grow the fuck up.
I had a friend text me and say that. I'm sure they'll be back. Well, some, not all.
I get the impression that those people don't watch Ga… moreme of Thrones, heh.
If deaths being too brutal for me were a problem, I would have stopped at like Lori's death in the comics (okay, that one was pretty awful, but still) or at like Mark's death in the game or at Dale's death in the show.
It was a 7 before and that pretty low for what I thought....what happened? The slow pace was good for character building and every actor was on par. Do you just not like the ep?
6.5/10 for me.
The tension always ran high with the unpredictable nature of Negan, the deaths of not one but two major characters, and th… moree death row-like atmosphere, but I couldn't help but feel like this episode was bogged down a bit by a needlessly slow pace and minimal plot progression. I am looking forward to see what the rest of the season has in store for us.
I thought the episode was okay overall. Like I said in my little miniature review, its merits are what keep this episode from being bad. I just don't think it's great.
I changed the rating because after letting the episode sit for a while, I felt that a 6.5 was a little more appropriate than a 7. It's just my opinion though. If you loved the episode, good for you. I just wouldn't rank it as one of my favorites.
It was a 7 before and that pretty low for what I thought....what happened? The slow pace was good for character building and every actor was on par. Do you just not like the ep?
I thought the episode was okay overall. Like I said in my little miniature review, its merits are what keep this episode from being bad. I j… moreust don't think it's great.
I changed the rating because after letting the episode sit for a while, I felt that a 6.5 was a little more appropriate than a 7. It's just my opinion though. If you loved the episode, good for you. I just wouldn't rank it as one of my favorites.
Words can not describe my... absolute fucking anger and frustration towards this episode. My disgust and disappointment. My unbridled fury as a fan of the Walking Dead. This could quite possibly be the worst episode of the Walking Dead I have ever seen in my life, and I'm genuinely enraged by that because there are good things about the episode and I want to like the episode, but it is genuinely garbage. The only word I would ever use to describe for my absolute animosity to this shit stain of a premiere would be a collection of nightmarish and horrifying screeches that I can't even replicate. Scott Gimple is not a fit showrunner for the Walking Dead and continues to disappoint me with his shitty decisions, awful cliffhangers and shitty deviations from the comic book.
I didn't mind how gruesome it was honestly (minus Negan's over the top awful behavior), I hate the episode because it was garbage for a multitude of reasons. The gore was alright actually. Except for the pus bubble on that walker's neck outside the RV. Fuck that.
I'm seeing some comments by people on other sites saying they're done with this show because Abraham/Glenn's deaths were just "too brutal" f… moreor them to handle.
Yeah, I’m done. TWD has become a show only masochists can enjoy. Over the top-violence, no glimmer of hope, nothing but despair and death.
I’m done too. Everything is just too horrible and messy for my taste.
Sorry, this was last episode of TWD for our family. This was a great series where people came together because of a world changing event. We watched as family, as it was a good conversation starter on ethics and challenges in tough conditions. Last season Glen’s “death” was a stupid gimmick; with more foolishness to follow. The series now is just a game of how cruel a villain can we create. This opening was just brutal and nasty. The season to come is just going to be how can the group overcome Negan, with more senseless deaths along the way. So long to a series… [view original content]
Honest to god tears over the deaths in this episode. Seeing the in memoriam clips on Talking Dead just set me off so hard. I knew it was gonna happen this way but it was just so damn brutal. Almost unnecessarily brutal in the case of Glenn and even the Carl scene (which was so tough to watch! It feels like the first time we've seen Rick COMPLETELY break down like that since Lori's death.) The moment after Negan's men leave and the group has to come back together was absolutely devastating as well.
I can understand that. I liked it because it felt smaller and more contained than previous episodes and relied more on its characters to carry out its narrative rather than its shocking moments.
Cool those are my faves too (along with this last one of course).
Though i did feel like The same boat, while a great character study, dragged on for a while.
Damn that was pretty good. I've been over the cliffhanger for a while so I'm pretty happy with what they gave us.
It's a little sadistic but I kinda wish they made Abrahams death a little more gnarly like Glenns. I mean, one whack and Glenns skull caved in but it looked like Abraham could have gotten up and throw a couple of punches.
Andrew Lincolns acting was once again amazing and I loved that Glenns death was pretty much a shot for shot recreation of the comics.
I eagerly await for what happens next and the introduction to the Kingdom.
I agree. The people in charge of making this episode are either so far up their own asses or so deprived of actual content they have to resort to this kind of bullshit filler that part of me doesn't want to support this show anymore. This episode was four scenes, and they milked the cliffhanger that everyone was pissed about last season for half of it. Actually now that I think about it, the time filler could have still been there without the displaced time scene so they must be up their own asses. Sad.
Words can not describe my... absolute fucking anger and frustration towards this episode. My disgust and disappointment. My unbridled fury a… mores a fan of the Walking Dead. This could quite possibly be the worst episode of the Walking Dead I have ever seen in my life, and I'm genuinely enraged by that because there are good things about the episode and I want to like the episode, but it is genuinely garbage. The only word I would ever use to describe for my absolute animosity to this shit stain of a premiere would be a collection of nightmarish and horrifying screeches that I can't even replicate. Scott Gimple is not a fit showrunner for the Walking Dead and continues to disappoint me with his shitty decisions, awful cliffhangers and shitty deviations from the comic book.
Lmao well there it is then. Didn't really care about the guys cartoonish ramblings so just fast fowarded to him killing Rick's group members and generally intimidating the group. Abraham wrong decision for me. Dude had potential as a leader or Rick's right hand man. Glad that the writers had the spine to finally kill one of Rick's main people (Glenn). The arm cutting scene was pretty intense as well.
I can understand that, but you have to admit in a sense it stopped the main narrative to focus on Carol and Maggie's development. Also it did have quite possibly the most brutal shock/horror deaths in the season.
On a side note I am happy that we can both accept the fact that we have different opinions about the show without fighting about it like fans tend to do.
I can understand that. I liked it because it felt smaller and more contained than previous episodes and relied more on its characters to carry out its narrative rather than its shocking moments.
This was an entirely manipulative episode of television. It just went from one horrific sequence to the next, and was happy to continue to hold off from revealing who died even after the cliffhanger last season. I kept wondering, why am I watching this? It's basically torture or misery porn.
Words can not describe my... absolute fucking anger and frustration towards this episode. My disgust and disappointment. My unbridled fury a… mores a fan of the Walking Dead. This could quite possibly be the worst episode of the Walking Dead I have ever seen in my life, and I'm genuinely enraged by that because there are good things about the episode and I want to like the episode, but it is genuinely garbage. The only word I would ever use to describe for my absolute animosity to this shit stain of a premiere would be a collection of nightmarish and horrifying screeches that I can't even replicate. Scott Gimple is not a fit showrunner for the Walking Dead and continues to disappoint me with his shitty decisions, awful cliffhangers and shitty deviations from the comic book.
Well that was okay I suppose, predictably I didnt care very much given the ending last season. Anyway my thoughts
I thought the episode was well done but this should have been the finale last year (you know an actual ending...)
It was a bit ridiculous in parts, Rick jumping onto that walker was another dumpster type scene
Acting was great or meh depending on the person. Rick and Rosita stood out as being fantastic along with Glenn and Aaron
On the other hand Maggie was....okay but she seemed to scream more at daryl being taken than glenn dying. She did act the aftermath quite well though. And carl...um maybe it was intentional but this was the first time I recognised the claim that chandler riggs really cant act, that hyena snarl he did during glenns death made me start laughing
Negan seems to be what I thought he would be without swearing, just a bit weird and over the top. Being colourful int he comics seems to have turned to act weird in the show
On the victims Im pretty glad as I like both actors and it would be great to have them on other shows especially with increased notoriety. Show wise I guess they worked also, as a sidenote laughed when daryl's actions caused glenn to be killed. Looking forward to the defence of him from people
Final thoughts Im somewhat excited for the rest of the season but not that much
I feel the cliffhanger really took the impact away. I just feel this would have been so much better if the scene proceeded just as it was meant to be. Ending Season 6 with Negan killing Abraham or Glenn and then pick up where we are in this episode.
Another thing, I am wondering if they completed the scene when they still filmed the last episode of Season 6. Or if they just stopped filming after the POV scene and pick up after Season 7 started filming.
Wait, what? What was the point in killing one character off if another character is going to die anyway? This isn't the comics, these characters are suffering their TV canon fates.
It reminds me of one the original ideas for Issue 100 - instead of Negan killing Carl, the Saviors (Negan wasn't a thing then I guess) would have Rick kill Glenn to save his song.
I think I can understand where they're coming from. When you see something that brutal and you're not used to it, or maybe experienced some horrible stuff where you've seen people hurt or suffer, then something like that it can put you off a show, even if it's just for a while.
For me, I'm not going to watch the episode, at least the bat to the head business. I think it'd be too much for me too. I like dark themes, but I have my limits when it comes to senseless violence XD and before you say it, I don't like watching Game of Thrones.
I'm seeing some comments by people on other sites saying they're done with this show because Abraham/Glenn's deaths were just "too brutal" f… moreor them to handle.
Yeah, I’m done. TWD has become a show only masochists can enjoy. Over the top-violence, no glimmer of hope, nothing but despair and death.
I’m done too. Everything is just too horrible and messy for my taste.
Sorry, this was last episode of TWD for our family. This was a great series where people came together because of a world changing event. We watched as family, as it was a good conversation starter on ethics and challenges in tough conditions. Last season Glen’s “death” was a stupid gimmick; with more foolishness to follow. The series now is just a game of how cruel a villain can we create. This opening was just brutal and nasty. The season to come is just going to be how can the group overcome Negan, with more senseless deaths along the way. So long to a series… [view original content]
I feel the cliffhanger really took the impact away. I just feel this would have been so much better if the scene proceeded just as it was me… moreant to be. Ending Season 6 with Negan killing Abraham or Glenn and then pick up where we are in this episode.
Another thing, I am wondering if they completed the scene when they still filmed the last episode of Season 6. Or if they just stopped filming after the POV scene and pick up after Season 7 started filming.
Waited 8 months for the episode but they still manages to drag it out 40 more minutes.
Honesty with Negans cringe lines and stance, the death scenes were more funny than gut wrenching. I was hoping that my stomach would feel sick after watching them die (Like how I felt when Hershel died or when Glenn fell off the dumpster) but unfortunately I was left thinking "that could have been done exponentially better."
The episode was hyped way too much for what we got.
Honestly I feel like it was more a direct cause than an indirect cause. He heard what Negan said he'd do if anyone stepped out of line. He saw what Negan was capable of but still did it anyways. So he had to of known that Negan was going to kill someone.
Eh, I suppose you could consider it direct. If I'm being honest, I just felt like cutting the guy some slack, even in spite of what happened. I mean, what Daryl did was incredibly dumb, don't get me wrong, but I can understand why he felt the need to do it
Honestly I feel like it was more a direct cause than an indirect cause. He heard what Negan said he'd do if anyone stepped out of line. He… more saw what Negan was capable of but still did it anyways. So he had to of known that Negan was going to kill someone.
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its not enough buddo, but i'm sure i have something bigger for the both of us let me just find it
ah ha! here we go!
I'm seeing some comments by people on other sites saying they're done with this show because Abraham/Glenn's deaths were just "too brutal" for them to handle.
Really people, are you serious? The Walking Dead has always been gruesome, bloody, and has killed plenty of people off in far more gruesome fashion. Hell, Game of Thrones is a million times worse when it comes to the deaths, so why the hell is this a problem now?
I had a friend text me and say that. I'm sure they'll be back. Well, some, not all.
I get the impression that those people don't watch Game of Thrones, heh.
If deaths being too brutal for me were a problem, I would have stopped at like Lori's death in the comics (okay, that one was pretty awful, but still) or at like Mark's death in the game or at Dale's death in the show.
Exactly. The brutality of the deaths reflect just how sadistic and monstrous people have become. The Walking Dead has always been a show where the people are the threat, not the walkers, and in comes Negan, the baddest of the bad, and people are complaining about him being too evil. Grow the fuck up.
well ahh just more of a reason to not like daryl now i guess
the way glenn's arm was moving or twitching afterwards was just fucked tho
Holy shit. Holy fucking shit...
It was a 7 before and that pretty low for what I thought....what happened? The slow pace was good for character building and every actor was on par. Do you just not like the ep?
I thought the episode was okay overall. Like I said in my little miniature review, its merits are what keep this episode from being bad. I just don't think it's great.
I changed the rating because after letting the episode sit for a while, I felt that a 6.5 was a little more appropriate than a 7. It's just my opinion though. If you loved the episode, good for you. I just wouldn't rank it as one of my favorites.
I really wish this happened to Carl or Rick. Even Andrew wanted his hand to be cut off.
That's ok. Just out of curiosity, which are your favorites?
Oh well, shit happens. I only liked Glenn through the first few seasons anyway.
Words can not describe my... absolute fucking anger and frustration towards this episode. My disgust and disappointment. My unbridled fury as a fan of the Walking Dead. This could quite possibly be the worst episode of the Walking Dead I have ever seen in my life, and I'm genuinely enraged by that because there are good things about the episode and I want to like the episode, but it is genuinely garbage. The only word I would ever use to describe for my absolute animosity to this shit stain of a premiere would be a collection of nightmarish and horrifying screeches that I can't even replicate. Scott Gimple is not a fit showrunner for the Walking Dead and continues to disappoint me with his shitty decisions, awful cliffhangers and shitty deviations from the comic book.
-Here's Not Here
-What Happened and What's Going On
-The Grove
-Too Far Gone
-The Same Boat
To name a few.
I didn't mind how gruesome it was honestly (minus Negan's over the top awful behavior), I hate the episode because it was garbage for a multitude of reasons. The gore was alright actually. Except for the pus bubble on that walker's neck outside the RV. Fuck that.
Cool those are my faves too (along with this last one of course).
Though i did feel like The same boat, while a great character study, dragged on for a while.
Honest to god tears over the deaths in this episode. Seeing the in memoriam clips on Talking Dead just set me off so hard. I knew it was gonna happen this way but it was just so damn brutal. Almost unnecessarily brutal in the case of Glenn and even the Carl scene (which was so tough to watch! It feels like the first time we've seen Rick COMPLETELY break down like that since Lori's death.) The moment after Negan's men leave and the group has to come back together was absolutely devastating as well.
EDITED TO ADD THIS BUT HERSHEL JR MADE ME WEEP
"Hey, you. Dumbass." 1x01
"I'll find you." 7x01
;-;
I can understand that. I liked it because it felt smaller and more contained than previous episodes and relied more on its characters to carry out its narrative rather than its shocking moments.
Damn that was pretty good. I've been over the cliffhanger for a while so I'm pretty happy with what they gave us.
It's a little sadistic but I kinda wish they made Abrahams death a little more gnarly like Glenns. I mean, one whack and Glenns skull caved in but it looked like Abraham could have gotten up and throw a couple of punches.
Andrew Lincolns acting was once again amazing and I loved that Glenns death was pretty much a shot for shot recreation of the comics.
I eagerly await for what happens next and the introduction to the Kingdom.
So... Daryl didn't die and Glenn died...
I didn't want to catch up on this show anyway.
Don't forget that Daryl indirectly caused Glenn's death
I agree. The people in charge of making this episode are either so far up their own asses or so deprived of actual content they have to resort to this kind of bullshit filler that part of me doesn't want to support this show anymore. This episode was four scenes, and they milked the cliffhanger that everyone was pissed about last season for half of it. Actually now that I think about it, the time filler could have still been there without the displaced time scene so they must be up their own asses. Sad.
Lmao well there it is then. Didn't really care about the guys cartoonish ramblings so just fast fowarded to him killing Rick's group members and generally intimidating the group. Abraham wrong decision for me. Dude had potential as a leader or Rick's right hand man. Glad that the writers had the spine to finally kill one of Rick's main people (Glenn). The arm cutting scene was pretty intense as well.
I can understand that, but you have to admit in a sense it stopped the main narrative to focus on Carol and Maggie's development. Also it did have quite possibly the most brutal shock/horror deaths in the season.
On a side note I am happy that we can both accept the fact that we have different opinions about the show without fighting about it like fans tend to do.
Kirkman still feels like it was a mistake I guess. He might eventually go through with it though.
Even more reason to hate him
This was an entirely manipulative episode of television. It just went from one horrific sequence to the next, and was happy to continue to hold off from revealing who died even after the cliffhanger last season. I kept wondering, why am I watching this? It's basically torture or misery porn.
Well that was okay I suppose, predictably I didnt care very much given the ending last season. Anyway my thoughts
Final thoughts Im somewhat excited for the rest of the season but not that much
I feel the cliffhanger really took the impact away. I just feel this would have been so much better if the scene proceeded just as it was meant to be. Ending Season 6 with Negan killing Abraham or Glenn and then pick up where we are in this episode.
Another thing, I am wondering if they completed the scene when they still filmed the last episode of Season 6. Or if they just stopped filming after the POV scene and pick up after Season 7 started filming.
I can't believe my prediction was right... now I feel even more sad x.x
Oh gosh, I'm not sure how much sadness I can bare in just one episode in the beginning of a season...
Wait, what? What was the point in killing one character off if another character is going to die anyway? This isn't the comics, these characters are suffering their TV canon fates.
Is a song really worth it?
I think I can understand where they're coming from. When you see something that brutal and you're not used to it, or maybe experienced some horrible stuff where you've seen people hurt or suffer, then something like that it can put you off a show, even if it's just for a while.
For me, I'm not going to watch the episode, at least the bat to the head business. I think it'd be too much for me too. I like dark themes, but I have my limits when it comes to senseless violence XD and before you say it, I don't like watching Game of Thrones.
If I remember right, they stopped filming after the POV according to interviews and articles I've read.
Waited 8 months for the episode but they still manages to drag it out 40 more minutes.
Honesty with Negans cringe lines and stance, the death scenes were more funny than gut wrenching. I was hoping that my stomach would feel sick after watching them die (Like how I felt when Hershel died or when Glenn fell off the dumpster) but unfortunately I was left thinking "that could have been done exponentially better."
The episode was hyped way too much for what we got.
Honestly I feel like it was more a direct cause than an indirect cause. He heard what Negan said he'd do if anyone stepped out of line. He saw what Negan was capable of but still did it anyways. So he had to of known that Negan was going to kill someone.
Eh, I suppose you could consider it direct. If I'm being honest, I just felt like cutting the guy some slack, even in spite of what happened. I mean, what Daryl did was incredibly dumb, don't get me wrong, but I can understand why he felt the need to do it
was the joke that bad?
Negan: Ultimate Troll