Would you trust Kenny's judgement about people?

To me Kenny seemed to be able to read people quite well. He seemed to have pretty keen sense on knowing who to trust, who not to trust.

For example, at the St.Johns Farm, Kenny suspected they were hiding something, that something wasn't quite right. And look how things turned out.

Also, Kenny never trusted Lily either. And look at even if you sided with Lily the entire time, in the end she ran off on Lee and the others, effectively leaving them to die.

When it came to Vernon, if I remember correctly; it's been a while since I played Season 1, Kenny expressed some distrust regarding Vernon and his crew. And look what Vernon did to Kenny and the others.

In Season 2, Kenny never trusted Arvo, even though everyone else seemed to view him as a helpless kid in over his head. And look at how Arvo shot Clementine.

And Kenny never trust Jane, and look at the sick game she played involving the infant Aj.

Though he was not always correct about people, he did seem to have a pretty good read on most.

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  • Incidentally, please do not spoil anything for me regarding S3. I don't wish to know anything about it until I have had a chance to play it for myself.

    Thank you!

  • I absolutely trust his judgement about people, although he was wrong about Luke. That was just him and Luke trying to flex on the other and I wish they'd have gotten past it and been an awesome team.

    • Looks at Cabin group, listens to Kenny, they call Kenny irresponsible and crazy.

    Yeah I trust Kenny.

  • Definitely not.

  • In most cases, yes.

  • Would you trust Kenny's judgement about people?

    Eh, see, that's a hard question to answer in my opinion. While it is true that some of Kenny's "hunches" had some...well, truth to them, it's also worth noting that some of them were self-fulfilling prophecies due to Kenny's own actions, with Lilly, Arvo, and, by barest technicality, Vernon and Jane(though that was pretty obvious, to be honest) being the big examples. And as I've been saying recently, Kenny has edged onto my dislike list precisely because he's a little to passionate about things, which leads to stuff like them to happen. However, I'd be lying if I said his people skills were always complete trailer-trash, especially compared to the likes of Jane. So, maybe at least a consideration depending on the urgency of the situation.

    Also, Kenny never trusted Lily either. And look at even if you sided with Lily the entire time, in the end she ran off on Lee and the others, effectively leaving them to die.

    You wanna know something funny about that: apparently, the RV was almost outta gas or something like that. I don't remember where I heard that though.

  • He mentions that fact himself after Lily runs off

    DabigRG posted: »

    Would you trust Kenny's judgement about people? Eh, see, that's a hard question to answer in my opinion. While it is true that some

  • I wouldn't really say he has great people reading skills... but I would say he has a good sense of when danger is approaching (e.g. St John farm). He strikes me as quite judgemental, and his dislike for certain people is often just because they don't agree with his world view rather than the fact that they are truly dangerous (e.g. Luke, Lily initially, Jane initially etc)

  • Oh, okay. Karma? Except, not really?

    darthsansa posted: »

    He mentions that fact himself after Lily runs off

  • He trusted Lilly up until she executed Carly/Doug. Even though he despised her as a person he says it himself that he doesn't distrust her. I think she trusted him as well on some level as she never accused him of stealing when in the RV even though she can accuse Ben, Carley and Lee.

    I don't think Kenny really trusted anyone he didn't know very well (especially in season 2), which is arguably how you have to be in a zombie apocalypse.

  • I think she trusted him as well on some level as she never accused him of stealing when in the RV even though she can accuse Ben, Carley and Lee.

    That is a legitimately good point. I never even took that into consideration. Granted, I thought Duck did it at first, but still!

    wdfan posted: »

    He trusted Lilly up until she executed Carly/Doug. Even though he despised her as a person he says it himself that he doesn't distrust her.

  • Touche......

    Never!

  • You're wrong about him not trusting Lilly, they didn't get along but he didn't distrust her, he said so himself. "I obviously have my problems with Lilly but I don't distrust her."

  • He had good judgement of people up until the Arvo issue in my opinion. Arvo was disarmed, outnumbered, and easily overpowered. I don't think he wanted to hurt anyone until after Kenny used every opportunity and the slightest provocation to wail on him with Clementine determinately egging him on. Kenny kind of created the monster in that situation.

  • I think it depends on the state of mind Kenny is in and whether they align with his ideas. I do think at least in season 1 and parts of season 2 his judgement of characters Is pretty decent

  • edited December 2016

    "I don't think Kenny really trusted anyone he didn't know very well (especially in season 2), which is arguably how you have to be in a zombie apocalypse."

    That's how you have to be in life. Never trust a stranger!

    And when it comes to trusting people, watch their actions more than their words. People can say whatever they want, and most people will say all the right things in order to paint themselves in the best light.

    But if their actions contradict their words, don't ignore it! In the end people's actions will always reveal who they really are. That's why the old saying is true: "What you do defines who and what you are."

    Therefore, take everything everyone says with a grain of salt. Unless someone has given you proof that they can be trusted, never ever just take what they say at face-value. Never!

    And even then, don't believe every single word that comes out of their mouth, because many people, and this is especially true for women; no offense intended, will lie by omission.

    So it's generally always a good rule of thumb to play your cards close to your chest!

    Your trust is not something that you should just freely give, otherwise you put yourself at risk for ending up in a world of hurt. Rather it is something that people should have to work long and hard for.

    George Washington had a saying, when it came to trusting people: "Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence."

    In my experience, nobody can be completely trusted. People tell so many lies, especially small lies, that you can never really be sure when someone is being straight with you or not.

    Personally, I always find it funny the people who claim to be honest, yet they will tell little white lies at the drop of a hat. BULLSHIT!!!

    People who are truly honest will tell you the truth no matter what it's about, or how unappealing it is, or if it's completely embarrassing, or if it's the last thing in the world that the other person wants to hear.

    "Do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda.

    And the same thing is true when it comes to honesty. You're either honest, or you're not. It's that simple!

    wdfan posted: »

    He trusted Lilly up until she executed Carly/Doug. Even though he despised her as a person he says it himself that he doesn't distrust her.

  • Nope, I'd rather not make judgments about people and only make judgments if I feel the need to and in that instance I would not rely on what others think unless they had actual proof or if I trusted them enough - Kenny has a tendency to show dislike (sometimes in the extremes) towards anyone who's done him any sort of wrong, accidental or otherwise, or to people who just disagree with him, so I'm not very keen on trusting him, or many of the characters from TWD in that matter, when it comes to people - because there are different paths that lead to friendship and rivalry.

  • I think Kenny, as well as a lot of others, got good at reading what people are really like. Thats sort of a key skill for survival as you're prepared to either run from or fight against someone dangerous.

  • Yeah, I trust his judgements :)

  • edited December 2016

    My comment might be bias as I'm a Kenny fan 4 life. Lol.

    TeamKen

  • I think Kenny has a better handle on the people around him than he does himself, making him a very interesting and conflicted character.

  • Lily also didn't trust the st johns either. When you have the discussion with her at the dairy farm about Danny shooting Jolene, she says that can't be trusted and it was a bad idea to come here.

    He knew that she could snap at anytime after what happened to her dad, it's up to the player to decide if they side with him or her.

    He didn't really show any distrust until they stole the boat, because he was drinking and was also focused on the supplies at crawford for the boat.

    It's different with Arvo, because his built as a weak kid who screws up, the average player will feel sympathy for him. In the end, Kenny was right about Arvo, although some will argue you that Kenny was to blame for Arvo's breakdown.

    Jane was always sly, i mean look at her ditching the group all the time and what her and Luke did.

    Kenny said what was on his mind and was honest with people, sometimes he went too far, but because of that, he drew a lot of people dis liking him on the game. Anyone that is honest will cop that.

  • I guess I trust his instinct, but he's not a very subtle person when it's called for. If anything, I'd always consider his point of view.

  • For me, that's entirely dependent on the given situation. Sometimes, his judgement can be clouded by his personal feelings and desires, but he has made a few very good calls. I'd rely on my own judgement first, but I'd always take someone else's thoughts into consideration, Kenny being no exception. I love the guy, and I suppose I could trust what he has to say in a given situation. I may not agree, but I'd always give it a listen. So...It depends.

  • People shouldn't base their judgements on others on what Kenny thinks of them - they should think for themselves.

    This was a big problem with some of the more militant Kenny fans during season 2 - they led a massive 'luke the fluke' hate train merely repeating everything Kenny said about him without making their own judgement, and then basically did the same again for Jane in many respects.

  • edited December 2016

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    Those were the days...

  • I still remember when kenny fans were convinced that Luke was a paedophile, and that's why he tried so hard to get to Howe's.

    Those were the days...

  • You mean he wasn't?

    Cause him trying to valiantly save his friends, one of which happened to be Clem seems like he's a pedo to me.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I still remember when kenny fans were convinced that Luke was a paedophile, and that's why he tried so hard to get to Howe's.

  • Yeah, pretty much. Even if Arvo was doing them a kindness out of pragmatic self-preservation, he clearly didn't have guts to actually do anything to the group before Kenny darkened him.

    Bon-Bon posted: »

    He had good judgement of people up until the Arvo issue in my opinion. Arvo was disarmed, outnumbered, and easily overpowered. I don't think

  • This was a big problem with some of the more militant Kenny fans during season 2 - they led a massive 'luke the fluke' hate train merely repeating everything Kenny said about him without making their own judgement, and then basically did the same again for Jane in many respects.

    Yeah, I remember hearing and/or seeing the effects of that when I first started researching online discussion. Granted, it only occasionally brought up Kenny, but still, I recall not having much patience for that mindset back then.

  • Hey. Do you know what's up with the rash of season 3 discussions? The release date for the game is tomorrow.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yeah, pretty much. Even if Arvo was doing them a kindness out of pragmatic self-preservation, he clearly didn't have guts to actually do anything to the group before Kenny darkened him.

  • Funny you mention that because I'm currently watching the final part of marcost3's critique and review series on Youtube and in the related videos are Walkthrough for Episode's 1 and 2 of Season 3, so I'm assuming either a leak or a very early preorder.

    Bon-Bon posted: »

    Hey. Do you know what's up with the rash of season 3 discussions? The release date for the game is tomorrow.

  • There are plenty of playthroughs already on YouTube!

    Bon-Bon posted: »

    Hey. Do you know what's up with the rash of season 3 discussions? The release date for the game is tomorrow.

  • This was a big problem with some of the more militant Kenny fans during season 2 - they led a massive 'luke the fluke' hate train merely repeating everything Kenny said about him without making their own judgement, and then basically did the same again for Jane in many respects.

    They do love to say that "Jane killed Kenny just to prove a point."

  • Which really isn't true because Jane can't kill Kenny, which would've made it fair.

    This was a big problem with some of the more militant Kenny fans during season 2 - they led a massive 'luke the fluke' hate train merely rep

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