I like Clementine's personality
While I can understand why some people can't agree on Clem's attitude in the first two episodes, I personally don't mind it at all. To me it makes sense for Clementine to have this hardened personality. I don't think she would have handle herself as well if she wasn't as tough and assertive as she was in these two first episodes.
I don't see her as a kid anymore. I see her as a person who stand her ground and who should be treated as an equal with respect.
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You know, I wouldn't hate her attitude like I do if anything you did ever from previous seasons had any sort of impact. Sure it makes sense for her to act this way, but making sense and making a good story are two very different things.
I can recognize some of what I originally taught her which is her helping others when they need it but when the time comes to make decisions, she's going her own way. Whatever happened to her and AJ with the new Frontier probably affected her deeply and I want to help her to trust people again, just like I wanted to help Ben, Nick and Gabe.
good point. they didn't gave much weight to s1/2 choices. Even after making a story generator. Maybe they will use it for future episodes.
Agreed. I love her s3 personality too. But I only wish they could give her several different lines instead of only a few different dialogues.
You wanted to help them?
Aren't you a ray of sunshine?
"We don't leave friends behind".
I agree! I love it. As sad as it is to see how much she's changed I love seeing this new side of her and it works.
I agree, but I feel that S2's alone ending best fits Clem's personality in S3 overall, but that may just come down to personal preference on my part.
Overall Telltale should commended, I've watched this character grow from a sweet little 8 year old hiding in a tree house to a capable battle hardened teen who's experiences have shaped the woman she's becoming. It's the kind of growth and character development you don't expect from a video game.
"Having people is nice, but it always ends up hurting in the end.
Never think otherwise."
— Clementine.
Never think otherwise."
Well, not if those people are Ben/ Nick/ Gabe.
Not likely
Kevin Bruner mentioned that our past choices will come into play in future episodes. He used the Carver death as an example and stated that will effect her in some way.
I didnt even realize there was hate for the way she acted. Shes just more hardened is all. I mean after all the shit she's been through she kinda does have to. Also theres still parts wheres it shows her kindness and the way she usually acts.
I bet her character won't develop at all this season... again.
Love it to death
I agree and I dont get why people think she has to be this sweet, innocent flower to be likable. Clem is who she is because of her age and experiences. She's not nearly as obnoxious as she could be. She still has a good heart. She's smart. What else do people want from her?
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Because it's part of why people loved her in the first place?
It's really hard to tell if this is sarcastic or not...
...is it?
Ah! The Janiac Motto!
um what can I do about it man, it's the time zones fault. Its 1 AM here
Then it sounds like you dont want her to grow or change and I think thats unfair to the character.
Her personality makes sense, I just wished that there was even just a tiny bit of variation to it based on prior choices (considering we can import them and all...).
You know what, I'd argue that Season 2 foreshadowed that problem: her growing up and becoming more used to handling herself is exactly what it should've took it's time doing, but ANF has her act more like your common lancer(experienced casualness, mysterious presence, shady actions) and action girl(ai. Jane with more empathy) than what she was before.
Hopefully, episode 3 will fix that issue.
Having had time to reflect on my playthroughs (2) I have to admit that I don't recognize Clementine very well. For me Lee and Kenny, even Christa and Edith taught Clementine the value in community, in friendship, in helping and sacrificing for others.
There is some conflict in her character though. In episode 1, she readily stays behind to cover for Javier and his family if you choose to leave with them, yet in episode 2 she will conclude for no reason seemingly that friends never turn out to be what they seemed to, to her.
Lee did everything in his power for her, gave his life and refused her bullet to not induce more trauma on her. Christa kept her alive for the better part of two years even after the loss of Omid and her child, before making sure not to reveal she was with her when they were faced with threats. Kenny went above and beyond to save her and AJ, he didn't even flinch at the prospect of a lonely frozen grave if it meant giving her and the baby a shot at having a life in Wellington and then Edith readily warns Clementine in time for her to escape Wellington once it falls. There is nothing in what I did where I feel like Clementine should conclude that friends are unreliable. She would be dead if not for the people that cared for her.
I really hope Telltale addresses this in the last episodes.
Uh huh most of the time it is either very minor or not noticeable
I love it. She's morphed into a bad ass. It seems Gabe is trying to hit on her... haha
Dont mind with clem attitude .. she is just cool..
You know the circumstances who forced him to tough
I stopped putting stock in what TTG employees said about their games.
I feel pretty justified.
I feel like Clementine just acts tough and cautious when first meeting someone or being in a new place. She has every reason to be angry and not trusting based on her past...but if your javi is nice and sides with her, she drops the front she's putting on. She actually trusts you pretty easily, and can still be sweet and kind to others. I honestly don't know what other people would expect her to be like? This suits her perfectly imo. I think they did a good transition for her character with considering what she's gone through over season 2 and leading up to S3.
Now, if we could actually have Clem act differently depending on our choices from season 2 and 1 that would be good.
What people are saying, It does not matter if you spend season 1 and 2 telling Clem to hate everyone, She'll still act the same in season 3 regardless.
People are wanting Clem to act differently regarding their choices. She doesn't. She acts the same no matter how you played the previous seasons, or if you went with the Kenny and Jane or CANNON ending.
Okay, that's fair. It is unfortunate that her personality isn't tailored towards the way you played in previous seasons. I think that maybe for me personally, they way I played Clem in season 2/way I treated her in season 1, I am getting basically what I would expect (I probably did the "generic" play through I guess lol). For those who made Clementine act super moody/negative, or more naive, or barely have interactions (chose to not say anything in most scenarios "....") I can imagine you'd be disappointed with her this season. Thanks for the clarification.
If Clem doesn't shut her mouth I oughta slap her.
What do you mean again? her character developed alot in season 2, she became a survivor
Wouldnt say they depended on her, maybe with the exception of at howes, and that was only because she was the only one who could do alot of the things they needed done, due to her size and weight, there is so many cases in season 2, where Clem has something smart to say, and the adults dont listen to her at all
Its not that she thinks friends are unreliable, its that she cant bear to lose everyone again, she has lost almost everyone in her life, and she doesnt want to be friends with people because it always ends up hurting in the end, she even says this, if she thought friends were unreliable, she wouldnt have gone with Javier in the first place
I suppose, but I still didnt think it was too bad, I mean, you still have to make room for some doubt, as it is still a videogame I guess, I never felt like it was too bad, I still feel like Clementine showed herself way more capable than most of the other survivors in the group, maybe except for Jane, everyone else just sort of sits on their ass not knowing what to do, Luke and Sara for example, when you go save them, Luke is utterly useless, Nick is a piece of shit who barely does anything right for the whole season, Kenny is the most reasonable out of all of them, even after going fucking nuts
lol yeah... an independent 11 year old adult, also everyone is a survivor at this point I don't know what you mean by this.
I'm not so sure, I got that impression from her in something. But even that makes no sense, all her friends gave themselves willingly and she honours that by sticking to herself. I still don't see my Clementine, hopefully Telltale mends that.
A little variation in the dialogues/actions depending on your previous choices would be greatly appreciated , I agree.