Is David Abusive?
Not being a troll in ANY way, but when that one flashback showed up when Javi was at Dave and Kate's house, I was becoming mildly concerned.
I remember having to take a "course" for my job at the Library and it was about domestic violence and how to spot it with your co-workers, and there were some signs of it in that scene. I'm not saying that David would be extremely abusive, but he seemed almost verbally abusive.
I mean, c'mon, who gets that touchy over a mug? And it sounded like that wasn't the only time that that sort of a situation had happened...
What do you guys think? And please tell me I'm not the only one who has thought this....
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There seems to be hints of it, but who knows.
David did hit Javi when he was drunk, so who knows what David does to Kate when hes drunk.
I can get why he got touchy over a mug, his CO gave him that and died. It probably meant a lot to him. While Kate and Javier couldn't care less. It's like if someone ruined Clem's hat, I have no doubt you'd be pretty pissed off at them. I do think he's very controlling though. But abusive? No.
I doubt he would drink when he wasn't depressed. And David did kinda have a legit reason to hit Javi because Javi (from what it sounded like) kinda estranged himself from the family and was never there. And David practically begged him to be there when their father passed, sooo.....
If I was David, I'd have probably hit my own brother or sister (maybe not punch them, but, meh)
It's very possible. According to the trend we will find out more about the family at the start of each family.
Also, it pretty much gurantees Clementine will be in the next episode because her flashback will have to happen (unless her story is already completed, which I highly doubt).
It's a mug.... and CO? Isn't that a workplace thing?
And I get it if Dave and his CO were best friends, but he seemed EXTREMELY aggressive about it. Like, I remember someone accidentally destroying a soapstone piece I had made (which took two days of using my art class, my lunch, and my spare class; so quite a few hours) and I was pretty upset, but I didn't make it sound like they murdered someone.
Also, how was Kate supposed to know that (unless Dave's CO gave it to him whilst he was courting Kate...)? And it was a simple mistake.
CO means commanding officer. He was in the Army.
Last time telltale dropped hints of abusive parents they ended up being crazy lunatics who trapped their kids in torture rooms. So, yeah, he's abusive.
Oh...
I'm an idiot. XD
There's reasons to think so. I mean it seems like Kate was not happy to be with David and afterwards she also mentions that she doesn't really miss him that much. Him being abusive could be the reason, however it just could be that Kate is polygamic and just don't want to deal with David's kids and him being so strict. David is a soldier and they often tend to be that way.
I guess we should just wait for writers to decide which one is it.
Where TF did THAT come from??? 0.0
Hmmm... Good point.
And once you think about it, love can easily die after a while. It could be a platonic love, of sorts, but it doesn't feel as 'magical' as to when you first started in your marriage....
APS class is STILL getting to me XD
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CO stands for Commanding Officer. David was in the military. Kate even says it's his army glass.
The reason he got so pissy about, was because Kate didn't really seem to care at all that the mug was something important to him. She just goes at him about how they need to buy dishwater so he doesn't complain about some marks on a fork. He had a right to be angry about it, and the fight doesn't even get intense until Javier steps in to defend her.
Kate is his wife, why wouldn't she know? And she does mention that it was his army glass, as I said before.
But the Vales (as far as I remember cuz my memory can be pretty effed up) didn't torture their daughter.......
Unless you're talking about the Wayne's.
Rashid and Vanessa.
My apologies, mate. And didn't the "complain about marks on a fork" send up a red flag at all? It makes it sound like he snaps about EVERY little thing.
I don't think he went as far as to abuse Kate, but his short temper and just overall negligence of Kate seemed to be a problem so who knows.
Vales tortured Vicki. She's Vicki Arkham, but Vales were her foster parents. That's the reason she became villain I think.
There is no evidence really to suggest he goes crazy about it. I'm sure he gets annoyed about it, but it sounded like it's just annoying thing about David's personality.
OHHHHHHHH.....
inconspicuously looks this shit up to sound less like an idiot
True.
True.
One more thing I'd also like to add is if you don't tell him off, Kate says she's sorry and he tells her it's fine and that it was accident.
I know that, but that reminded me WAAAY too much of the cycle.
Translated so peeps here can understabd; shit happens, blame is thrown, feelings are hurt, someone apologizes, forgotten about. Then the cycle starts up again.
As of know, it seemed to be one time thing where he got that angry about it. And the only reason he got angry was because of Javier. And also, wouldn't Kate tell Javier that David beat her? I'm sure she would've told Javier 4 years into the ZA and her personality would've changed. If she was getting beat by him she'd be a lot more submissive to him.
He's your generic former military personnel turned asshole due to stress. So yes he is both physically and verbally
I know I wouldn't have said anything UNLESS the time called for it or if it was related to discussion. Like, if he said "what about David?" then that would be reason to say, "What about him? He beat me/abused me." or some crap like that.
She's also a grown and independent woman... So.... yeah
If he was abusive I think he was more abusive verbally than physically (even then I don't think it was too extreme). I don't think he actually ever hit Kate but he does talk down on her.
As for some of the people bringing up him hitting Javier. I actually think that it was a pretty appropriate response considering Javier apparently had multiple chances to visit them but didn't until the very last minute.
She'd be a lot more frightened to stand up to him like she did with mug. She smart mouths him with no problem. If she was getting abused, she'd be way more apologetic.
I really don't get this abusive angle except that he hit Javier in the face in Ep1. Which is pretty understandable if you look at from his point of view.
Ir someone ruined Clem's hat...
Oh shit, now I feel guilty about being so rude with David about the mug.
Episode 5, the torture chamber. That was built by the Vales. It's also what the boy refers to when he says "Please don't send me to punishment!"
Abusive? Doubtful, although abuse is not just physical. David just seems very forceful in personality and stubborn which is in no way healthy for a marriage.
An ex-military father of two entering his second marriage with a hip, young free spirit doesn't sound like a great match and is bound for tension.
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Since they're not white but Mexican, I got the hint the household was traditional. David was the man of the house and Kate was his obedient wife. He could be somewhat abusive but not enough to be that much of a concern. He did hit his own brother but only pressed to the point to do it because not coming to his father's death could have been a really big deal to miss. I actually didn't want any shit to do with David on my first playthrough though not enough to want to kill him but just don't do anything to do with him anymore. Didn't care if he was the protagonist's brother or anything.
I just want to nip this ex-military thing...David has always been a jerk even when he and Javier were kids...so lets not blame the military.
Cuban, not Mexican, actually.
There's a bit of Abel and Cain or Esau and Jacob story going on. Father always loved Javier more than David.
I'd say he's got a bad temper but I wouldn't call him outright abusive. The glass had sentimental value to him so he got mad about it. The most trivial things can mean something to people.
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Imma go and cry myself to sleep now
That's what I told some people lol