In my playthrough she didn't say "Let's kill this fool" though. She said "Just give me what I'm owed!" Did you just paraphrase or is there an actual difference between the ways Clem got raised?
Really? I may not have payed attention due to all the chaos. Didn't she just shoot him and then get Javier to lie? Nothing more than that I saw. You can confront her about it and she says it's an accident, but then starts blaming you for not having her back depending on your choices.
Really? I may not have payed attention due to all the chaos. Didn't she just shoot him and then get Javier to lie? Nothing more than that I … moresaw. You can confront her about it and she says it's an accident, but then starts blaming you for not having her back depending on your choices.
How I she even a little evil...she did not kill Javi...gave him back the candybar..unless you were a jerk. She gave him back his gun. She covered the family as they took Kate back to Prescott. Came back to warn Prescott. Saved Javi when Badger was just going to execute him. I guess sure she is evil....not.
We saw in Season 2, the impact Christa had on Clementine the 16 months those two were on their own. You can tell that the relationship between the two weren't well because she still missed Lee and she wasn't as heart broken when she was gone like she was when Lee, Luke, or Kenny died.
Despite the choices we made, Clementine still was hardened by Christa and was forced to kill humans this time. We could preserve her, yes, but she still went through so much more pain and death then she did in Season 1.
So, Season 3. Clementine has hardened a lot more. What would you expect after being alone for two years, and/or losing your best friend (Kenny/Jane), and being inside The New Frontier. Obviously, she did not like it there and had to escape rather just departing as she didn't want to be seen.
So, two years have passed, and she's been practically alone or under the influence of an evil group for that amount of time. Yes, she is quite hardened, but according to your choices, Clementine will start warming up to you, and she will smile more throughout Episode 1.
At first, she doesn't seem like the old Clementine from Season 1, but according to your choices, you see her old self come out.
When she puts back your candy bar for Mariana.
When she smiles when you listen to her about Prescott.
When she smiles and tries to calm you down when you realize your family is alone.
When you cover for her and she smiles.
When she thanks you and you establish you and her as a team.
When she smiles throughout all of her flashbacks, hell, even alone she still managed to smile for a while. (Alvin, Kenny, and Jane brought her happiness, much like Javier is beginning to do).
When she smiles when you find Mariana.
When she saves your life if you don't kill the walker.
When you choose to save her life by either pushing her out of the way or throwing the bomb.
When she creates a hole for your niece and helps you through the pain.
The list goes on and on, showing her caring side of her. It's not even her "Season 1" self, it's her true self. After all these years, she still shows hope and care for others, even some she doesn't know the best.
I'm glad to see her this way, to me, she isn't innocent like Season 1 and to an extent of Season 2. But after the last season of nothing but straight Clementine face of anger... It's good to see her smile more.
I think savage is a bit extreme. Think about it, it's been FOUR years in the apocalypse, and she's had to grow up during it. In Season One, her very naive manner of never wanting to do any wrong, even at personal cost, was her values of being a child. They say that hate is not inbred but learned, and in this world where she's seen so much evil and so many people do her wrong, it's not shocking she reacts accordingly.
Depending on how you play Javi, you can still see all the love she received and all the values all of our Season One and Two characters may have instilled in her are still there. She reacts really well to kindness, for example she thanks him very sincerely when he covers for her.
At the end of the day, we gotta remember this girl has been through so much with loved ones dying, people dying to save her and I wouldn't be surprised if she feels less of a need to care because of all that emotional trauma.
? I never said she got emotional, i said she regretted it. She supposed to break down into tears and scream "why god"? She wouldn't have been panicked if she planned on killing him, and would have calmly told Javier as soon as she shot to tell them he pulled a knife.
I was being sarcastic. It's a poorly written reaction to doing something horrible. Clem just didn't want into trouble and was upset over a stern talking to rather than killing someone.
? I never said she got emotional, i said she regretted it. She supposed to break down into tears and scream "why god"? She wouldn't have bee… moren panicked if she planned on killing him, and would have calmly told Javier as soon as she shot to tell them he pulled a knife.
How I she even a little evil...she did not kill Javi...gave him back the candybar..unless you were a jerk. She gave him back his gun. She … morecovered the family as they took Kate back to Prescott. Came back to warn Prescott. Saved Javi when Badger was just going to execute him. I guess sure she is evil....not.
And the truth comes out. Yes, she is Jane with a lot more empathy and less coldblooded. Apparently, Jane was supposed to be a jaded future version of her to begin with.
I was being sarcastic. It's a poorly written reaction to doing something horrible. Clem just didn't want into trouble and was upset over a stern talking to rather than killing someone.
Jane cared about Clementine and Jaime deeply, and, to a lesser extent, about Rebecca, Luke and Alvin Junior. She is also distressed when she learns that Arvo has been beaten to a pulp.
And the truth comes out. Yes, she is Jane with a lot more empathy and less coldblooded. Apparently, Jane was supposed to be a jaded future version of her to begin with.
Yes. There were points where Jane's egocentric attitude meant she didn't seem to care about anyone else's feelings and she would even badmouth or look down on them at times. Troy(from certain viewpoint at least), Sarah, Kenny, and even Clementine were the biggest examples of this.
She did look at them as inferior at times, but that does not mean that she was unable to sympathize with them. In my eyes, she was one of the few characters with the ability to accurately understand what everyone else was going through.
Yes. There were points where Jane's egocentric attitude meant she didn't seem to care about anyone else's feelings and she would even badmou… moreth or look down on them at times. Troy(from certain viewpoint at least), Sarah, Kenny, and even Clementine were the biggest examples of this.
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Not in exact word to word, but I had options to kill him or not.
Really? I may not have payed attention due to all the chaos. Didn't she just shoot him and then get Javier to lie? Nothing more than that I saw. You can confront her about it and she says it's an accident, but then starts blaming you for not having her back depending on your choices.
Immediately after the shot she backs away wide eyed and says "Oh no" in a distressed voice while staring at his body.
How I she even a little evil...she did not kill Javi...gave him back the candybar..unless you were a jerk. She gave him back his gun. She covered the family as they took Kate back to Prescott. Came back to warn Prescott. Saved Javi when Badger was just going to execute him. I guess sure she is evil....not.
lol how emotional.
I don't believe she is a savage actually.
We saw in Season 2, the impact Christa had on Clementine the 16 months those two were on their own. You can tell that the relationship between the two weren't well because she still missed Lee and she wasn't as heart broken when she was gone like she was when Lee, Luke, or Kenny died.
Despite the choices we made, Clementine still was hardened by Christa and was forced to kill humans this time. We could preserve her, yes, but she still went through so much more pain and death then she did in Season 1.
So, Season 3. Clementine has hardened a lot more. What would you expect after being alone for two years, and/or losing your best friend (Kenny/Jane), and being inside The New Frontier. Obviously, she did not like it there and had to escape rather just departing as she didn't want to be seen.
So, two years have passed, and she's been practically alone or under the influence of an evil group for that amount of time. Yes, she is quite hardened, but according to your choices, Clementine will start warming up to you, and she will smile more throughout Episode 1.
At first, she doesn't seem like the old Clementine from Season 1, but according to your choices, you see her old self come out.
When she puts back your candy bar for Mariana.
When she smiles when you listen to her about Prescott.
When she smiles and tries to calm you down when you realize your family is alone.
When you cover for her and she smiles.
When she thanks you and you establish you and her as a team.
When she smiles throughout all of her flashbacks, hell, even alone she still managed to smile for a while. (Alvin, Kenny, and Jane brought her happiness, much like Javier is beginning to do).
When she smiles when you find Mariana.
When she saves your life if you don't kill the walker.
When you choose to save her life by either pushing her out of the way or throwing the bomb.
When she creates a hole for your niece and helps you through the pain.
The list goes on and on, showing her caring side of her. It's not even her "Season 1" self, it's her true self. After all these years, she still shows hope and care for others, even some she doesn't know the best.
I'm glad to see her this way, to me, she isn't innocent like Season 1 and to an extent of Season 2. But after the last season of nothing but straight Clementine face of anger... It's good to see her smile more.
I think savage is a bit extreme. Think about it, it's been FOUR years in the apocalypse, and she's had to grow up during it. In Season One, her very naive manner of never wanting to do any wrong, even at personal cost, was her values of being a child. They say that hate is not inbred but learned, and in this world where she's seen so much evil and so many people do her wrong, it's not shocking she reacts accordingly.
Depending on how you play Javi, you can still see all the love she received and all the values all of our Season One and Two characters may have instilled in her are still there. She reacts really well to kindness, for example she thanks him very sincerely when he covers for her.
At the end of the day, we gotta remember this girl has been through so much with loved ones dying, people dying to save her and I wouldn't be surprised if she feels less of a need to care because of all that emotional trauma.
? I never said she got emotional, i said she regretted it. She supposed to break down into tears and scream "why god"? She wouldn't have been panicked if she planned on killing him, and would have calmly told Javier as soon as she shot to tell them he pulled a knife.
I was being sarcastic. It's a poorly written reaction to doing something horrible. Clem just didn't want into trouble and was upset over a stern talking to rather than killing someone.
She is Jane.
“No! She didn't do that.”
How do you color your text dude?
Savage? Maybe, but is she this Savage?
Candy and Juice boxes--the way into people's hearts!
I can't believe took someone explaining that to me to realize how funny that is.
And the truth comes out. Yes, she is Jane with a lot more empathy and less coldblooded. Apparently, Jane was supposed to be a jaded future version of her to begin with.
Ok, so you're just going to disagree regardless of what actually happened. Gotcha, won't waste any time then.
Not exactly, theyre very similar, but Jane is what Clementine would become if she stopped caring about people
Jane cared about Clementine and Jaime deeply, and, to a lesser extent, about Rebecca, Luke and Alvin Junior. She is also distressed when she learns that Arvo has been beaten to a pulp.
Jane is not sympathetic?
Are we speaking about the same character here?
She's just cold after all of the things she's suffered through. I bet she'll come back to the light, it could be based on our decisions.
Yes. There were points where Jane's egocentric attitude meant she didn't seem to care about anyone else's feelings and she would even badmouth or look down on them at times. Troy(from certain viewpoint at least), Sarah, Kenny, and even Clementine were the biggest examples of this.
She did look at them as inferior at times, but that does not mean that she was unable to sympathize with them. In my eyes, she was one of the few characters with the ability to accurately understand what everyone else was going through.