Well im obviously more tolerant than you and others i guess, no big deal. Also because most of the time when he is like that is imo for good reason though
I know you disagree. Imo, you seem like you think people not liking him is their fault because theyre not giving him a chance. There's only so much rude and aggressive behavior you can look past.
Well im obviously more tolerant than you and others i guess, no big deal. Also because most of the time when he is like that is imo for good reason though
Well im obviously more tolerant than you and others i guess, no big deal. Also because most of the time when he is like that is imo for good reason though
But you see, the Russian group shows up on the same path regardless of your choices, so how can we really boil it down to being Jane's fault when that is the ending of the episode regardless of our decisions?
Also, if the group actually ventured off into the town like they originally planned to, this conflict may not have even occurred, I'm surprised this was such a huge oversight to be honest (I know one could say they were heading there but were ambushed but no one even mentions the town in episode 5, nor do we see it anywhere near them).
And Kenny didn't make the conscious decision to be the one to truly start the fight? We could clearly see he chose not to fight until Jane sheathed her knife, are you trying to say that he unconsciously waited for the best moment to strike?
But you see, the Russian group shows up on the same path regardless of your choices, so how can we really boil it down to being Jane's fault when that is the ending of the episode regardless of our decisions?
Uh, yeah, considering Arvo being robbed(whether you actually went through with it or not) by her is the reason they were even out there; if Jane didn't choose to stick him up and threaten him and Natasha, he likely wouldn't have even considered looking for them. It doesn't help that Arvo doesn't seem to recognize Kenny or Rebecca for some reason.
But you see, the Russian group shows up on the same path regardless of your choices, so how can we really boil it down to being Jane's fault… more when that is the ending of the episode regardless of our decisions?
Also, if the group actually ventured off into the town like they originally planned to, this conflict may not have even occurred, I'm surprised this was such a huge oversight to be honest (I know one could say they were heading there but were ambushed but no one even mentions the town in episode 5, nor do we see it anywhere near them).
And Kenny didn't make the conscious decision to be the one to truly start the fight? We could clearly see he chose not to fight until Jane sheathed her knife, are you trying to say that he unconsciously waited for the best moment to strike?
No the depression I've highlighted is linked to her death in my opinion. She hid Aj for her own reasons in showing Clem he's psychotic, which I'm not saying is right so don't worry. Anyway I just didn't understand the 'love kenny' train, that's all
Pretty much. Season 1 was a hard act to follow to begin with, Omid and Christa had been removed from the equation, and the fact that the Cabin Group were meant to be good people willingly doing questionable things including locking an injured girl in a shed because of one dangerous man didn't really gel with a lot of people, which meant that it was all to easy for Kenny to step in and derail about 50% of the intended storyline into focusing on him for the sake of catering to nostalgia. And then Jane came in after him and just took advantage of all of the confusion at the cost of utterly aborting what was left.
I know, I don't feel like the shed bit was ever really resolved. Clem still holds a grudge sorta in ep 2, but was it even mentioned after that?
Even Rebecca hating Clem and then spontaneously liking her can get a token mention in ep 4 if you pick the right dialogue with her. But the baggage with being locked in the shed is just dropped.
Pretty much. Season 1 was a hard act to follow to begin with, Omid and Christa had been removed from the equation, and the fact that the Cab… morein Group were meant to be good people willingly doing questionable things including locking an injured girl in a shed because of one dangerous man didn't really gel with a lot of people, which meant that it was all to easy for Kenny to step in and derail about 50% of the intended storyline into focusing on him for the sake of catering to nostalgia. And then Jane came in after him and just took advantage of all of the confusion at the cost of utterly aborting what was left.
I don't think so. It probably would've been a thing had they kept to their apparent original plan of having her team up with Carlos, the one who decided the whole shed plan, while in the pen.
I know, I don't feel like the shed bit was ever really resolved. Clem still holds a grudge sorta in ep 2, but was it even mentioned after th… moreat?
Even Rebecca hating Clem and then spontaneously liking her can get a token mention in ep 4 if you pick the right dialogue with her. But the baggage with being locked in the shed is just dropped.
For me Kenny's story ended in season 1 . Pure fan service got him to season 2 so both he & Jane are meh to me. I do agree that Jane got herself killed . That whole thing felt rushed . They where clearly out of ideas at that point.
I don't think so. It probably would've been a thing had they kept to their apparent original plan of having her team up with Carlos, the one who decided the whole shed plan, while in the pen.
The odd thing is I can't help but think Mr.'s Vanaman and/or Breckon left behind notes hinting at what he was planning to do that was somewhat taken into account in some shape or form, but Mr.'s Shorette, Petty, and/or the suits did their own thing for the most part, hence the Cabin Group and Carver history being unelaborated on in favor of having him and Kenny be crazy at people, the jarring boost in prominence Jane got(even if a part of me wants to think she may've existed in some shape or form in the original plans), and Carlos, Nick, and especially Sarah just being dropped despite clearly being meant to have more importance/relevance to the story.
For me Kenny's story ended in season 1 . Pure fan service got him to season 2 so both he & Jane are meh to me. I do agree that Jane got herself killed . That whole thing felt rushed . They where clearly out of ideas at that point.
I mostly liked him for his kindness to Lee in Season 1 (determinately) and for his love, and how he'll do anything for kids. (Clementine, Duck, AJ).
And he was mad at Clementine for Sarita being bitten for killed from him losing his son, his wife, Walter, then Sarita. He just gets mad over that stuff, since he's lost so much. I personally think he just feels alone from losing a lot that he takes revenge too seriously. You can see in Season 2 how much he loved Clem and AJ for wanting to be at Wellington (determinant).
All of this is my own thoughts, of course.
* Kenny saved Lees life in episode 1 without him Lee would have died way earlier on and wouldn't have been able to raise Clem
* Defends Lee… more against Larry if Larry wasn't fed in episode 2
* Allows Lee and Clementine to join him on the RV (If you defended Duck)
* Refuses to leave the boy in the attic
* Forgives and tries to save Ben in episode 5 (If Ben is alive)
* Saves Christa in episode 5 (If Ben is dead)
* Chooses not to kill himself after Kat and Ducks deaths so that he can help his friends
* Takes the blame for the radio and loses an eye for Clementine
* Helps Rebecca with the baby
* Saves AJ from walker Rebecca (If Clem doesn't)
* Gets the truck working
* Begs Edith to let Clem and AJ into Wellington and says she can take his food back
* During the Kenny flashback he immediately worrys about AJ
So yep all of this makes Kenny an awesome guy
And people shouldn't ask why they don't like Jane, or like Jane or why people don't like Kenny. It's all the same. You mention either one it turns into a "shitshow" as you say
The odd thing is I can't help but think Mr.'s Vanaman and/or Breckon left behind notes hinting at what he was planning to do that was somewh… moreat taken into account in some shape or form, but Mr.'s Shorette, Petty, and/or the suits did their own thing for the most part, hence the Cabin Group and Carver history being unelaborated on in favor of having him and Kenny be crazy at people, the jarring boost in prominence Jane got(even if a part of me wants to think she may've existed in some shape or form in the original plans), and Carlos, Nick, and especially Sarah just being dropped despite clearly being meant to have more importance/relevance to the story.
Also,Kenny is caring.He worry about Clem and A.J.And Kenny is caring.
And Jane?She only care about herself.I not hate her but she just always want to quarrel.
Yeah, admittedly I had to be told that. its something that makes his portrayal in the first two episodes make sense once you realize that Kenny's role in In Harm's Way and Amid the Ruins would've fit him. The fact that his Indian girlfriend Sarita's name is the SPANISH equivalent of Sarah also makes this embarrassingly(especially since I joked about that but didn't make the full connection) obvious.
There's also these two images Eye of the Storm Completed "In Harm's Way"
I imagine Rebecca was supposed to have a bigger role and relationship to Clem based on the thumbnail for ep 3
The fact that she resembles Diana, was initially very vindictive towards Clementine because she believed she was in cahoots with Carver, and actually does have some indirect influence on the episode's plot thanks to her history with him definitely lends to that idea.
A few months ago? Lol this has been going on for over 2 going on 3 years now but yes it is always frustrating having the need to argue over these characters. It is never ending
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Kenny is awesome. I always agreed with him on everything.
Well im obviously more tolerant than you and others i guess, no big deal. Also because most of the time when he is like that is imo for good reason though
More tolerant? Of him maybe, but I dont think you can make that kind of all around judgement.
Yeah no big deal, its personal preference on how people think of him obviously.
Nah, that's too much fame for Kenny. He is well liked but not that liked.
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But you see, the Russian group shows up on the same path regardless of your choices, so how can we really boil it down to being Jane's fault when that is the ending of the episode regardless of our decisions?
Also, if the group actually ventured off into the town like they originally planned to, this conflict may not have even occurred, I'm surprised this was such a huge oversight to be honest (I know one could say they were heading there but were ambushed but no one even mentions the town in episode 5, nor do we see it anywhere near them).
And Kenny didn't make the conscious decision to be the one to truly start the fight? We could clearly see he chose not to fight until Jane sheathed her knife, are you trying to say that he unconsciously waited for the best moment to strike?
Uh, yeah, considering Arvo being robbed(whether you actually went through with it or not) by her is the reason they were even out there; if Jane didn't choose to stick him up and threaten him and Natasha, he likely wouldn't have even considered looking for them. It doesn't help that Arvo doesn't seem to recognize Kenny or Rebecca for some reason.
Thats what im saying. I am more tolerant of him than you and others that don't like him it seems. What did you think i meant?
i'd say he's 90% talked/discussed about but not 90% liked. More like 50/50
Shut up Kenny
People just wanted something to latch onto in season 2, and they were desperate enough to choose a character that probably should have STAYED dead.
Oh?
Don't think about that too hard...
Pretty much. Season 1 was a hard act to follow to begin with, Omid and Christa had been removed from the equation, and the fact that the Cabin Group were meant to be good people willingly doing questionable things including locking an injured girl in a shed because of one dangerous man didn't really gel with a lot of people, which meant that it was all to easy for Kenny to step in and derail about 50% of the intended storyline into focusing on him for the sake of catering to nostalgia. And then Jane came in after him and just took advantage of all of the confusion at the cost of utterly aborting what was left.
I know, I don't feel like the shed bit was ever really resolved. Clem still holds a grudge sorta in ep 2, but was it even mentioned after that?
Even Rebecca hating Clem and then spontaneously liking her can get a token mention in ep 4 if you pick the right dialogue with her. But the baggage with being locked in the shed is just dropped.
Too late
This thread is just another Kenny/Jane argument starter.
I don't think so. It probably would've been a thing had they kept to their apparent original plan of having her team up with Carlos, the one who decided the whole shed plan, while in the pen.
Sadly i agree, especially mentioning Kenny and Jane in the same sentence
Agreed. The ending statistics show that too.
That I'm less tolerant than you in general.
Not saying you are in general about other things but towards Kenny you obviously aren't as tolerant as i am that's all
Well, I mostly meant Kenny vs other endings (including the alone one) so now it seems 56.1 vs 43.9
For me Kenny's story ended in season 1 . Pure fan service got him to season 2 so both he & Jane are meh to me. I do agree that Jane got herself killed . That whole thing felt rushed . They where clearly out of ideas at that point.
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I've never heard that. I imagine Rebecca was supposed to have a bigger role and relationship to Clem based on the thumbnail for ep 3
Well, you are right about that. I cant tolerate his behavior at all.
The odd thing is I can't help but think Mr.'s Vanaman and/or Breckon left behind notes hinting at what he was planning to do that was somewhat taken into account in some shape or form, but Mr.'s Shorette, Petty, and/or the suits did their own thing for the most part, hence the Cabin Group and Carver history being unelaborated on in favor of having him and Kenny be crazy at people, the jarring boost in prominence Jane got(even if a part of me wants to think she may've existed in some shape or form in the original plans), and Carlos, Nick, and especially Sarah just being dropped despite clearly being meant to have more importance/relevance to the story.
I mostly liked him for his kindness to Lee in Season 1 (determinately) and for his love, and how he'll do anything for kids. (Clementine, Duck, AJ).
And he was mad at Clementine for Sarita being bitten for killed from him losing his son, his wife, Walter, then Sarita. He just gets mad over that stuff, since he's lost so much. I personally think he just feels alone from losing a lot that he takes revenge too seriously. You can see in Season 2 how much he loved Clem and AJ for wanting to be at Wellington (determinant).
All of this is my own thoughts, of course.
Yet still a liability.
Yeah after a day I realised and gave up replying
Hey what do you do when your bord
Kenny > jane
And people shouldn't ask why they don't like Jane, or like Jane or why people don't like Kenny. It's all the same. You mention either one it turns into a "shitshow" as you say
Telltale are just utter shit these days it's simple. I credit them that their storylines are still somewhat ok but everything else is awful
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Agreed. The one thing Telltale did right was getting such a reaction out of these characters i guess. Not always a good thing though
Yeah, admittedly I had to be told that. its something that makes his portrayal in the first two episodes make sense once you realize that Kenny's role in In Harm's Way and Amid the Ruins would've fit him. The fact that his Indian girlfriend Sarita's name is the SPANISH equivalent of Sarah also makes this embarrassingly(especially since I joked about that but didn't make the full connection) obvious.
Eye of the Storm Completed "In Harm's Way"
There's also these two images
The fact that she resembles Diana, was initially very vindictive towards Clementine because she believed she was in cahoots with Carver, and actually does have some indirect influence on the episode's plot thanks to her history with him definitely lends to that idea.
Yeah, I got sick of that pretty damn quick. Remember a couple of months ago when the community was almost nothing but Kenny and Jane arguments ?
A few months ago? Lol this has been going on for over 2 going on 3 years now but yes it is always frustrating having the need to argue over these characters. It is never ending