Top 5 most pointless deaths
What is your top 5 most useless deaths out of all of the walking dead installments?.
- Luke
- Chuck
- Mark
- Carly
- Jane
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What is your top 5 most useless deaths out of all of the walking dead installments?.
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ANF flashbacks'. Period.
Mark is the sacrificial lamb to make the St Johns more villainous, hardly pointless.
But you're spot on with the other ones.
We could have just had David Parker be food but that was scrapped.
Lee
Kenny season 3
Jane season 3
Sarah 2nd death
Chuck
I am still quite upset about that. What could have worked possibly is if David always turns and Travis always comes back with as well and is the one to get eaten, but not everyone saved David so what could they do then ya know.
dropped a bridge on her.
almost literally.
Such memorable characters wasted.
Tell me about it! What is with this Clementine character? I don't understand how her and some baby have got anything to do with Javier's story. Get your red shirt characters out of my Walking Dead Telltale!
Sarah took the fall for the rest of the group.
Completely literally.
I was really hoping that if you taught her to shoot that it would come into play later.
Yeah it would be an awesome consequence if she accidentally killed someone or got herself killed or something if she never had any training, but if you did teach her then she survived or saved someone or something of those sorts.
Honorable Mention: Ben
It's mostly determinant characters, because why save them in the first place. Telltale at least did a good job with determinants in the first season.
How was that pointless? The whole point of Lee's arch was to redeem himself and then sacrifice for the life of Clementine; his death was necessary for Clementine's further development and to continue TWD story. Also his death was finished the season, it was extreme well-written, after the culmination of heroism and explanation of all the mysteries (the kidnapper; what was the fate of Clem's parents), then a little demonstration of Clem's survivor skills and final, tearful goodbye. I think it was the best idea for an ending.
Obviously Kenny, Jane and Edith, it only happened to move on with the story and get rid of the unnecessary characters.
Chuck, he could've easily left instead of dying. Also, I don't think the whole Cabin Group had to die, it seemed way too unrealistic for Clem to be the last one standing. I would prefer them splitting up or losing each other at some point, not roleplaying Dumb Ways to Die.
Kenny/Jane gives it a real run for its money, but nothing can top Sarah's second death.
(This is not a Challenge Telltale)
Even jobs stated that the entire cabin group didn't have to die.
Let's look at this for a sec.
Pete was bitten, I got to give them that. Rebecca died from exhaustion and blood loss. I guess you can sort of justify Sarah, as she wasn't able to cope with the apocalyptic world and face the reality. But Carlos, Alvin, Nick, Luke?
why telltale?
Carlos went to waste as soon as they could get rid of him. That saddens me deeply, it was such an opportunity to develop this character as a father who did what he had to protect his child and then lost her anyway. But I guess Carlos' lost to Kenny, because we couldn't have two broken-dad figures running around.
Alvin surviving Howe's could've shattered the ilussion of choice and let us explore the abandoned story about Carver's past and his pal George. Perhaps then Carver would've been more fleshed out and pictured as a good antagonist, not "a letdown" for some. It was also a chance to get a proper explanation about 400 days characters.
Nick. Ah, we don't talk about Nick.
Luke died cause he was too pure and kindhearted to live. He wasn't dark (foolish?) enough to replace Jane in her conflict with Kenny, as I believe he would never risk a baby's life to prove a point.
Yeah, that's definitely corn-cherry on top of that shit cake of bullshit.
Too bad they chose a method that had nothing to do with that.
More like because Jane took his only purpose after a certain point and he just happened to act as a perfect trigger for the group splitting apart.
And, having rewatched his cutscenes, observed his development, and thought about Jane's usage, I'm now pretty sure he could've if they went ahead with that plan.
Define Useless. In the meantime:
1. Sarah's "canon" death. Unforgettable, unforgivable.
2. Edith.
3. Nick's determinant death. Walter gets killed minutes later because of Kenny and Luke and Sarita apparently never learned about it because it's only brought up once by Reggie.
4. Chuck's death. They really could've done something better with him, one-shot character or not.
5. ...Maybe either Hector or Mariana?
5) Shawn Greene
So, he let Duck sit on the tractor, ok, but you gotta assume, he can start it by accident, so they should've took some precautions.
Also he should've been able to free himself, before walkers appear, if you are trapped in such a situation, you'd better struggle yourself the f#ck out of there somehow which shouldn't be too hard with a tractor that small and your other leg free to push it back. Also the walkers were there in a blink of an eye, way too fast. Sure they get attracted by the noise of the tractor and Shawn screaming, but they were there instantly.
4) Katjaa
Ok, she lost her son, but else Katjaa seemed to do fine and she still had Kenny and the whole group.. If she really loved Kenny, she would've stayed. Was pretty pointless imo. A headshaker..
3) Matthew
Luke and Clem yelled not to shoot and Nick did, I mean, I can understand if someone is an idiot, but nobody can be that stupid.
Not to mention, from what a distance he hit Matthew and that Clem and Luke were in between and could've been easily hit as well.
2) Pete
How did that walker get to him? And also they should've just chopped off his leg immediately..
1) ANF Kenny
Car accident, Clem casually racing for no reason, Kenny buisy with sth else, no seatbelt and not taking care, flying through the windshield. Yea. Sure, Telltale, legit story. Fantastic story telling, both thumbs up.
Honorable mention:
6) ANF Jane
So that she got pregnant.. only way is precum, no way they are stupid enough for the normal way...
So, she did get pregnant, she should've stayed some more with Clem and AJ, make sure, they are safe. We did see her being selfish, yes, but she did care a lot for Clem. Told her, she's like a sister and she only returned to the group cause of her. Too early, forced cause of ANF.
He's apparently doomed by canon anyway, so that was meant to show how it happened.
That's kinda the point. Nick was still on edge after what happened to Pete and Matthew did understandably draw on him as well, which caused him to panic and shoot. Luke gets Clementine down in time and someone brought up that Nick shooting Matthew could be a reflection of Pete's story about the deer.
He walked over to it thinking it was deader and it took him by surprise. He does consider chopping it off if you go with him(as he's killed if you don't) but doesn't because he realizes he'll likely just bleed to death anyway.
...What? Dude, I didn't even know we were allowed to say stuff like that.
Yea.. Well, that explains it. The writing of that scene is OK, it's not that terrible, but imo it still has flaws.
But Luke and Clem clearly shouted at him, to not shoot, hm, maybe he was too focused on Matthew... Luke gets Clem down first, which enabled Nick to shoot.. Luke could have stepped between them, but he couldn't trust Matthew 100% yet, so I understand that he prefered getting Clem in safety first..
I guess, yea, that scene adds up, but it still was a stupid death..
Yea, ok, I guess he was doomed once he got bit, cause too many walkers were surrounding them. The way back to the cabin would've lead the walkers there and they needed too much time to get to a place safe and by that time, 1. too late to chop it off and 2. what you said too much loss of blood..
Still I think he should've been more careful. Also, I don't get, why some walkers just lay around anyway, they all are supposed to move, once their senses register something and that walker should've heard them before.
Agreed.
Apparently, there really are a subbreed of walkers called, well, Lurkers who apparently haven't eaten in a while or simply can't move very well, so they wait around in hiding under something living comes by. That's what happened to Lee as well.
And Kevin Bacon
But if Luke replaced Jane, what would've been the final choice? Luke was injured in the shootout and beaten by Carver's men, so he was not fit enough to fight with anyone, not to mention Kenneth, who was an absolute beast (especially when driven by anger). That fight would either go down very fast or it would've never happened - again, why would Luke purposely trigger Kenny? Unless by accident, but it's still unlikely. I understand they continually butted heads and disagreed, but killing each other for different opinions? In front of Clem and AJ? I can imagine the shitstorm of post ranting about how they acted 'out of character'.
Footloose will never be the same without him
Kenny (ANF) - Kenny and Jane go without saying. Kenny's is arguably worse though, just because he's been around since the very beginning. He's practically the third biggest character in the series behind Clementine and Lee. Yet they axe him off like any other B-list determinant character. At least Telltale's all equal-opportunities when it comes to determinant characters, I guess...
Jane (ANF) - Arguably the less worse of the two, despite the fact that it's arguably out of character. At least she hasn't been a huge proponent of the series for over 4 years, only to be thrown to the side like a wet towel.
Carlos - Carlos' actual death isn't the problem, its the fact that they axe off Sarah just one episode later, which essentially makes Carlos' death pointless. The one person that would benefit as a character from his death doesn't have the impact of it properly explored.
Sarah - Her and Carlos go hand in hand. By killing Sarah, they kill two birds with one stone, and not in a good way.
Nick (episode 4 death) - Here's the funny thing, Nick's episode 2 death actually does serve a purpose-- it acts as one of two endings to Walter's character arc; is he able to practice what he preaches and save Nick's life in spite of what he did, or does he allow the world to essentially corrupt him? He can potentially die for the sake of another character being able to fulfill a character arc, which is okay in my book (even if Walt dies not long afterwards). Now flash forward to Nick's episode 4 death. What purpose does his episode 4 death serve other than cutting off a loose end and inflating the body count?
Just one:
Mariana in A New Frontier
The same thing, just with Luke instead of his Shadowy Distaff.
Because they had decided to replace him with Jane instead and so decided to just kill him off, kinda like they did with Sarah.
For the same basic reason except with an actual history of butting heads and Luke being degraded as the season went on himself.
You mean there wasn't any for what we got?
Don't listen to whoever told you Sarah's first death is canon because they just like to play realistic. I do not regret not leaving Sarah to die.
Oh don't be mistaken--[almost?]-every mandatory death is the cannon one to me! {Hmm, see what I did there?}
Though I actually have finally watched a Leave Sarah playthrough and...yeah, if you thought Jane was reprehensible and/or irredeemable before, that just seals it. Again, the thought process behind that entire subplot is just staggering!
I still can't imagine Kenny and Luke fighting to the death over some disagreement. Luke would most likely just leave. My mind goes as far as this:
Luke: You're nuts, Kenny! I'm done with this bullshit! Yeah, you hear me? I'm leaving. We're leaving. Clementine, let's go. We're leaving this maniac. Clem, did you hear me? Clem, we're going right now!
Kenny: Well, go ahead, Luke. It's always the same with you. You chicken your way out when it gets tough! Never wasting an opportunity to get us all killed, right? Fine, go on, but don't you dare force her to go with you. Clementine, you stay with me. I'm not letting you die with this reckless fuckin' moron!
[Stay with Kenny] [Go with Luke]
^Assuming Clem is the one holding AJ.
Luke
Mariana
Luke
Mariana
Luke
For some reason, I feel like some of those lines could've been switched, but whatever.
Anyway, it'd be the exact situation we got in the game proper: Luke would be sick and tired of Kenny's aggression in addition to fearing for Clementine and AJ's safety around him, so he'd pull that shitty plan out of his ass to prove Kenny's lost it and try to be able to kill him if it comes to that.
Face it, the plan makes more sense coming from him than Jane, who was constantly made out to be smarter than everyone else; and something I realized fairly recently is that there are numerous clues suggesting that despite how nice and caring he is, Luke(and to a lesser extent Sarah) has always had a sneaky side.
How was Sarah's death pointless? It was the best part of the game!
as Sarah dies
Sarah: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Me: YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH BAYBAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!