TWD Season Two was SO GOOD
I obviously should be praising Season One/1 or going on and on about how horrible A New Frontier/3 has been so far (up until maybe epsiode 3) , But the more I think about it
Season Two gets so much shit , (Not nearly as much as S3 but there is a REASON so far) yet, From the credits music, To the multiple endings , To hell, Kenny's return, I loved it, it may not be the best, But you can't deny that "happy" or shall I dear say "magical" feeling when a new episode released, the perfect mix of old characters from S1 (Christa , omid, Kenny) And new AMAZING CHARACTERS (Carver, Luke (somehwta, H eis a little bit boring) Sarah, Hell even Jane, And while I do LOVE tripp and javi so far, Season 2 will always be that game, The game where I get so excited for the next epsiode, the game where I look for ANY HINT of Kenny or maybe even molly's/lillies return and/or reference/easter egg, Hell, I even made episode 5 theories as I think my FIRST POST on these here forums, When the old site was still around, I may be being a bit nostalgic (For a 3 year old game I know) But fuck it, I ain't looking forward to TWD ANF's/3's new episodes, All I can say is I hope that changes...
memories from S2?
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I remember that Sarah is the character that I liked the most in Season 2.
In terms of positive thoughts, it started strong I guess. Thought the game was a huge disappointment overall.
Just because the music was good that doesn't make it great and as for the choices are you kidding me? Most of the choices ended up making no difference and they proved that even more when they kill Kenny and Jane off in S3 if you go with either one. Kenny's death is the biggest insult to this game ever.
But it was good compared to S3 LOL.
This. It was good up until episode 4. Then it really went off the rails.
Yup falls apart really hard in 4
im pretending that ANF doesnt exist for the sake of this thread, Of course the music didn't make the game good but it was a nice touch and showed they actually cared, and the choices COULD have mattered is the point. but then S3 was thrown together from old dryer fluff
I just thought it was something Telltale REALLY tried hard to do good with, At least until episode 4 (episode 5 was really good too in my opinion
However Season 1 remains the best, obviously
Yeah I noticed that they just reused a lot of S2 music in S3, very lazy.
It's my favorite season and I think it managed to be slightly better than S1, though I endlessly love both games.
I agree that Kenny overshadowed most of the characters, hence the lack of detailed development, but in terms of general story the tension and atmosphere bought me immediately. I've played it about 6 times now and I still happen to find new things.
16 months timeskip was an absolute horseshit, initialy I thought I won't find entertaining playing as a little girl but the game had proved me wrong. It was amazing to be able to observe Clementine growing up into a full fleshed survivor and make adult decisions. I fairly enjoyed different characters we've met along the way, I think every single one of them was well written and memorable, even though some of them should've survived instead of ekhem drowning in a lake. I actually have no problem with Nick, Sarah or Sarita, as it seemed realistic for people to get eaten in the zombie world, by bad luck or just inability to develop the necessary survivor skills.
Multiple endings was a splendid way to end a season and show that choices matter, though it got completely destroyed in S3, but this is another story. Also, credit songs, oh how do I miss them.
Same.
No it was pretty lackluster. Clem as the main character was awful and it was ridiculous how all the adults relied on her (immersion breaking as hell).
Then we had the new characters who tbh all sucked, the Cabin group was just unlikable and lacking in depth compared to the S1 group. Hell they even had to rehash Kenny and he took basically all the focus away from them.
Carver was completely wasted and kind of a joke. Choices mattered less than in Season 1 too (see the whole deal with Sara, Nick etc.)
I dont see how its that much better than S3, S1 on the other hand is vastly superior to both of them.
I thought S2 was awful. The game had 0 direction. Where was it going? Like, when you actually take a step back and look at it the game as a whole: what was the point?
Season 1 was about protecting Clementine while teaching her extremely valuable life lessons about morality and survival.
Season 2 was about...uh... do you like Kenny or his family first mantra or Jane and her survivalist ideals more? Or neither?
I think visually it's the best game in the series and I absolutely love Clementine's design. I loved the credits music. I liked the Kenny/Clem scenes. That's probably about it.
I felt the way they handled our choices was pathetic and whenever I think about the game all I remember is wasted potential. Reading some of the glassdoor reviews done around the time of Season 2 make me wanna die seeing how you can clearly see how strangled the development of the game was.
As a Kenny fan, it really was a nearly perfect season for me. It was everything I was expecting and a little bit more.
S2 goal was to get to the safe stronghold community in Wellington.
I guess but there are people who never made it there (Jane/Alone endings). Feels awkward that the main goal might not even be reached by some players.
I liked S2, however I feel it had much more potential that it never reached. Personally I would've preferred S2 to take place with Clementine in ANF which we played until we met Javier.
Well, it was their decision to do so. The game doesn't lead you by hand and show every other end of the road, you make the choice yourself and go in whatever direction you want.
I think it was established throughout the whole game - head to the Wellington to get to safety, but risk so many lives trying to achieve that or come to the conclusion that it's just not worth it and do otherwise.
Whatever morals you have, you get to choose and it's a nice contrast compared to S1 ending in which Lee will always save Clementine (not trying to say it was bad, just different).
Personally I thought the music from S2E1 on the title screen (can't remember what it's called) showing up when Javi hugged Clem was a nice little callback.
I loved it. A great game that got to much negativity imo. Now that ANF is halfway done, I'm starting to feel like the people that hated S2, I don't like this feeling btw.
It stank of "obligatory low effort sequel."
Glad you enjoyed it! I really enjoyed season 2 (even a bit more than season 1). It wasn't perfect, but the emotional beats and stakes were very high.
My personal opinion on season 2. The plot went off the rails after episode 3, but it was still good because it was driven by clem and kenny being great characters(though I admit kenny was way over the top in handling things, he was never wrong).
Yeah that was nice, im mainly talking about the credits music
which doesnt need to be there but it seems like a downgrade imo since S1 episode 5 had it maybe From The Gallows will have it aswell
Yeah that was nice, im mainly talking about the credits music
which doesnt need to be there but it seems like a downgrade imo since S1 episode 5 had it maybe From The Gallows will have it aswell
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I enjoyed it a lot, great moments that I'll never forget. Music was top notch, scenes we're awesome, and I liked the characters
Alright well, since apparently S2 is still not being liked very much around these parts, let me back you up on your feelings towards S2: I agree
I like S2, and I hold it on nearly the same level as S1. Whether or not it's objectively comparable to S1 in terms of quality, that's debatable. What isn't debatable is that I myself was just as engrossed and interested in S2 as I was in S1. Maybe it didn't manage to hit the same emotional heights as S1 did, but that doesn't mean it fell completely flat, either.
I'll concede that I still think there were aspects of it inferior to S1, but they were never enough to make S2 feel like some cancerous blemish on TWD franchise, like some people seemingly make it out to be.
If you don't mind me getting all philosophical here for a second: honestly, what matters more to me in a game are the subjective experiences, not the objective quality. For all intents and purposes, S1 is a technically inferior game to... well, just about everything on the market. But do any of you guys really care? Probably not, since a lot of people here have a library's worth of praise for it. Stories and memories of their experiences. And that's what I think matters the most, especially in a story-based game-- it's not how good the story is from an objective standpoint that matters, it's how much the story affects you that does. Sure, the quality of a story definitely lends to how much it can affect you, but a story doesn't have to be Shakespearian-quality in order for it to hit really close to home. It doesn't have to be written perfectly to have heart. A few inconsistencies here and some plot-holes there don't mean a story can't have heart; that it can't be emotionally potent, that it can't be something that really strikes a chord with you, or speaks to who you are as a person. There's a lot of movies, games, shows, and books I love, that for all intents and purposes, are objectively inferior to other movies/games/etc, but that doesn't stop me from considering them to be some of my all-time favorites. Things that have affected me heavily, got me through tough times, or just left a profound impact and/or influence on me, even if they weren't objectively the cream of the crop.
Yes! Alot of time people will tell me on reddit that I shouldnt like a game because they say it has bad writing or something, but frankly that doesnt matter to me, sure Season 1 istechnically the better game of the 2, but season 2 will always be my favorite, simply because it gave me an experience like no other, I have never been so immersed in a game before. And people can say what they want about playing a child, playing Clem was the best thing to ever happen to this series for me, I love playing unconventional characters, and my absolute favorite character trope is young girl turned hardened survivor like Clementine, and Ellie from The Las of Us.
I couldnt agree more with your last paragraph, which is also why I tend to never read reviews, since oftentimes people will completely dismiss a game because of minor things, simply because someone said so, just look at the recent Mass Effect Andromeda controversy. Games are probably the most subjective medium that currently exists, and frankly I think people should be more willing to embrace a few faults, and they will be much better off, I have played so many games that people say are bad, because they say it has bad writing or whatever, but enjoyed them immensely because I simply dont really care, as long as its serviceable, I can probably find enjoyment. Best example of this is Mass Effect 3, so many people say its terrible, and plagued with bad writing, but I had a blast up until the final hour, and frankly the ending wasnt as dissappointing as people makes it out to be, (this was with the extended cut dlc though)
I agree, Youve always had some of the best outlooks, For S3's fuck-ups as well
ummm... i don't know about that since omid died within 10 mins of the second season and christa went missing like 5 mins later, in terms of the episode.
telltale could've showed more of christa taking care of clem since she did take care of her for 16 months, but instead they decided to show like 5 mins of them together before she disappeared. disappointing and lowkey lazy writing.
season 2 had it's highlights. but i gotta disagree that there was a "perfect" mix of old characters.
Season 2 was amazing straight until Carver died. That's when the plot went downhill, because Telltale just didn't know what else to do.
I've played season 2 more than season 1.
That's ANF.
It's both, actually.
I actually really enjoyed S2, to the point where I'd have trouble ranking it in regards to season 1. Carver would probably be my main complaint, I was really excited when I heard Madsen was playing him and had high hopes, but he didn't seem to have much to his character and was gone by the halfway point. Other than that, I thought it did a great job at conveying a feeling of helplessness as you're more of a follower in this group, unlike Lee in One, and really feeling at the mercy of the the decisions being made around you. Most encounters with walkers were more threatening because she lacked the size to match up physically in a way that others could, that first prolonged struggle in the shed was brilliantly handled. I wasn't really sure what to make of where everything was headed in episode 4, but my first play through of the game and episode 5 saw me get an ending that hit me just as hard as season 1, maybe more so because I'd made her directly responsible for what happened, and doubted my decision after finding out certain things that would have greatly impacted the choice I made, had I known beforehand.
I knew it wasn't as well received as the first season, but never that Clem as a protagonist and the season as a whole got this kind of flak until coming here lol. Everyone I knew who's played it really enjoyed both seasons and PCs.
S2 is a utopia compared to ANF.
The way I see it, Season 2 is like a big brightly colored waterpark with all the amenities people would come to expect of a good time... However, the water park maintenance accidently rigged the water system to the nearby sewage waste run-off and as such the water is extremely murky, stinky, and has quite a few pieces of mysterious brown-like debris floating in most of it.
While A New Frontier, on the other hand is the most shallow, and unfinished kitty-pool in the world, complete with chipped paint, rusted rims, and quite a few dead bugs floating around... But the water isn't so much contaminated as much as it is the pool boy put too much chlorine in it, leaving many children with discomfort and parent's being quite angered.
The thing is though, A New Frontier's kitty-pool doesn't need to be shut down indefinitely to disinfect and sterilize the whole waterpark, if the fucking pool-boy would just chill with the chlorine before it opens at 8am and pull the bugs out of the water, it could be a far more fun family friendly experience...
But the administration of sanitation will for sure be docking hundreds of thousands of dollars for the water park.
So what we're really supposed to get out of this here...
Everyone'sClemInTime, did you have a bad experience at a waterpark once?
At least S2 had its own menu, a different soundtrack for each episode screen, credit songs, and it's an actual continuation with at least some effort put into it unlike ANF where no effort was put into it at all. :^)