Kenny the real main character of the series?
Reasons:
- He's the guy that everyone talks about or talked about for ages
*(Reason why he is and not Lee) Now Lee was a great character and everything but from what i've seen on here, you might as well just rename him "Clementine's guardian". Seen too many people that consider him just that. Kenny never really had a crutch holding him back like that. A lot more to him than just taking care of someone else.
Involved in all 3 games (albeit a determinant appearance in s3)
Cabin group stuff before Kenny came in was basically filler to what the story was really about imo. Kenny's rivalry with Carver and later on his and Jane's influence on Clementine's behaviour.
(Reason why he is and not Clementine) He was never irrelevant to the story in the time he was in the series like Clementine is now. No disrespect to Clem but i've seen a lot of people say that and I agree somewhat.
He had a fuck load of screentime
So yeah I think he has a pretty good shout all things considered. Do you think that he can be considered more important to the series than one or both Lee and Clementine? Now I can list some other reasons but they would be more opinonated. The stuff that I listed isn't quite facts but just stuff that I consider to be pretty clear that this is the case.
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I think Clementine is more of the main character than Kenny.
He contributed a little more than Clementine in season 1 and was more important until the end of ep 5 in my opinion. Season 2 he is pretty damn important as well. Neither have really been important in season 3 so far.
Saying Kenny is the main character of TWD games is like saying stupidity is the main character of any Michael Bay film.
Sorta true, but very misguided once you reflect on it for more than 10 seconds.
It's true that without him or his constant fuck-up's, the game's original protagonist Lee wouldn't have died and left Clementine an emotional minefield and pushed the horribly contrived events that plagued season 2's latter half. But he's nothing but a written puppeteer at best and a constipated background piece at also best.
He's essentially an ex-machina for shitty writing really.
Clementine was the main driving force behind the story of Season 1. That's why Season 1 is held at such high regard. You were just an average guy trying to survive and protect an innocent little girl while building a father-daughter bond with her. Even in episode 5 the main goal was to save Clementine and the ending was her finally being ready to survive by herself without Lee which was a HUGE step for her character. In season 2 Clementine was the actual main character and you followed her story about her surviving without Lee. Season 3 Kenny was more of an afterthought since you only see him in 1/5 endings and the one ending you actually get to see him in, he dies literally not even 5 minutes in so...
It was Lee's own fuck up along with Clementine's that killed him. Kenny doesn't really seem much like a background piece in his time in the series either to me. He's involved in the heat of things more often than not.
And yeah, stupditity and explosions are the main themes to Bay's movies lol.
There's a lot of major storylines in season 1 that have little or nothing to do with Clementine. Lilly's breakdown, the whole death of Duck, the finding a boat stuff with Kenny, taking down the St John's and Larry's death. Kenny is just more involved in that stuff than Clementine. It was more than just being an average guy taking care of a kid. Lee had a lot of important interaction with other characters as well.
Those were more subplots rather than the actual consistent plot throughout the whole season.
Kenny is undoubtedly my favorite character, but I still have to say that Clementine is the main character, or at least was. Whether or not she still will be going forward is debatable.
I would say that he was just as much of a main character as Clementine was in season 2, though. I'd say the real emotional impact from season 2 comes from how well you like and can trust Kenny.
I totally agree with you bro. I always wanted to play as Kenny in Season 3, Kenny is like Lee 2.0 version. He always been there for Clem, sacrificed a lot of times for her. I'm not saying that Lee was bad or anything like that, i mean if it weren't for Lee And Kenny, Clem wouldn't be alive.
Um? Clementine/Stranger are what got Lee ultimately killed, not Kenny. In fact Lee wouldn't have even made it past episode 1 had it not been for your favourite character lol.
sigh shakes head
The story is about Clementine. It has been since Season 1 although now it's about Javier something i don't agree that it should be. Kenny was obviously a large part of the story but not the real main character. But he certainly had the spotlight a lot
Imagine if they killed off Rick in the tv series and some asshole that joined in season 5 got the lead role, that wouldn't work out very well now would it.
No...just no.
I agree, the story was always about Clementine, if not directly, then indirectly, obviously Lee was the protagonist in season 1, but every decision he made was based around Clementine, all his character development was based around Clementine, which is what makes season 1 such a great story, then season 2 is about Clementines loss, and her trying to press on without Lee, and while I like Clementines involvement and character development in A New Frontier, it feels like a wasted opportunity, since I dont really care about Javier and his made up drama, or should I say Kates made up drama, literally all the conflict in the family is because of Kate, and I hate it, she creates artificial conflict because she wants to get in Javiers pants, and wants to get rid of David.
The thing that makes Kenny such a great character, is the fact that he has clearly defined strengths and weaknesses, he is a great leader, but he believes too strongly in his own motivations and ideas, to the point where he does not listen to other people, I feel like none of the new characters in A New Frontier has been anywhere near as compelling as Kenny was, and frankly alot of them are boring, the character I feel has gotten any development at all this season is Clementine, which I am thankful for, but none of the new characters have felt very compelling or interesting at any point except David, but even he is not very interesting compared to Kenny
Or worse. Season 3 instead of the prison. A new character comes into play who is now the lead and you randomly see Rick sometimes as a supporting character. What we got is actually worse than had they killed Clem IMO. As in killed her off before or something.
I'm 50 50 on thinking the SOLE reason Clem is around is to be served up as some Lee 2.0 death to get bunch of OHHH DA FEELS comments like they did with TWD season 1. It sounds just as cheap and disappointing as 2016 and beyond TTG so I think theres a solid chance it goes down like that. Assuming they do make another "series" after this. There not just going to have Clem permanently serve as a supporting role. They will probably kill her off or not make more.....was about to say seasons silly me. Excuse me more "episodes".
In season 1 there are at least 2 other characters with more spotlight than Clementine for a lot of the time (Lee and Kenny). Kenny also has around joint spotlight in season 2. How can the story be just about Clementine if other characters are taking the spotlight to that extent in both games. Maybe Clementine was obviously a large part of the story but not the main character.
He's the guy people keep talking about because he won't go away. If Lee had somehow "got lucky", people would be talking about him too, lol.
Playing as Kenny would have been great. Would have liked a game with him after he leaves Clementine at Wellington.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3 BELOW
Heard the legend is going to be making aother appearance lmao. This just supports my theory.
But he didn't. Kenny did. People still talk about him regardless why. He's the real main character.
He's not the main character although the game seems to want to make it look like he is. That's the biggest problem I had with season two. Kenny just waltzes in and takes the focus off Clementine. That was just ridiculous.
But if the game makes it look like he is (constantly imo) then maybe ya know... he is. Clementie doesn't have some divine right to claim it because "it's supposed to be like that" or something.
I see Clem as the main character. But I definitely see Kenny more of a main character than Lee. As of the ending of Season 2, Kenny and Clem has been in as many episodes (counting 400 days to make my point valid. : 3). I would also probably say that he was the second main character in Season 1, in this order:
1. Lee
2. Kenny
3. Clem
Then in Season 2:
Sigh... then in A New Frontier:
And it is horrible that Clem doesn't make that list. I think I would put her at fourth, but Gabe or even Tripp could take that place.
So... Nah. Kenny never was the main, but he definitely is the second main, after Clem herself. But our dear 'Stache-god Kenny will live on in our hearts forever.
Excuse me, but Lee had his own personality and was a great written and amazingly developed character, aside from being just Clementine's guardian. Taking care of Clem was only the part of his presence in the game, and even though it was probably the most important thing, he also was a charismatic leader; reasonable, experienced survivor and simply a good man everyone looked up to.
Kenny is definitely the most "human" character if that makes any sense. The most diverse character. He was relatable. You see him from his best to his worst and live through it.
That's my take on Kenny.
So you would just choose to starve to death because you can't rob an abandoned fucking station wagon with the keys on the ignition?
When did I say that?
You just said Kenny fucked up by stealing the food from the car. Would you just choose not to?
I agree but people should represent this more instead of saying things like they were glad he died and he already served his purpose. Even his own fans say stuff like that. He deserves more.
Ok, so first off... I never said Kenny fucked up by specifically stealing from the Strangers' car. Odd that you latched on to that accusation though, anything you would like to share?
Secondly, no I wouldn't steal every bit of supplies cause I'm not a greedy self-centered bastard with no intuition or perception that a car with a door open and the keys still in the ignition may either be a trap or a very wrong decision to steal every last crumb from cause it just might be still in use by someone less than mentally stable (hey, surprise surprise!).
Kenny would be considered a major character. In a novel, the main action of the story revolves around the protagonist. Major characters may have their own subplots that occur simultaneously with the protagonists problem. Major characters can sometimes be indistinguishable from the protagonist and antagonist. Major characters are identified by their purpose in the story and whether their activity helps or hinders the protagonist solve his problem.
1) Lee
2) Clem
3) Kenny
1) Clem
2) Kenny
3) Luke
1) Javier
2) Clem
3) David
My opinion.
Lolz!
Lol i know you didn't say anything about the station wagon so don't know where Aron got that from!
But dude in a ZA, if you were starving would you honestly leave a seemingly abandoned car full of food? I have to say that if i was in a group like the motor inn gang, i'd want everyone to be ok so it's finders keepers if it was me! That's survival
Damn right
Lee's sacrificed his life in order to redeem himself as a murderer, who would've been serving a lifetime sentence for killing a person, but instead had shown way more care and concern for an orphaned little girl than some faultless, regular dude would. It was more of less a representation of a flawed man who has done terrible things in the past, but the fate granted him with a chance to atone for it by doing something good, which was hard and difficult, but worth it at the end.
All of that I would agree on except for the part about Clem. I'm gonna say this as a gamer's perspective rather than a Clementine Fan perspective. Clementine IS the main character of the story she was the reason Lee and Kenny met, if Kenny was such a big character in the series, I can't see how Clem is irrelevant to the series. Now back up to the part on how Kenny's the main character, I can agree on how Kenny was a big impact on the game but he certainly was not the main character he was never the guy that was like Rick or Lee (sorry for getting little out of the game) Kenny was really always getting the help from everyone else in the story for some time after Duck and Kat died. The condition Kenny was in he definitely is NOT the main character in the series.
Yeah that's a good point, didn't really consider that. He didn't really talk much to anyone for a while after his family died. I'm a fan of Clementine myself (maybe not as die hard as others) but right now she isn't involved nearly enough in Season 3. Even though Clementine is very important in general, she has had a lot of time sitting on the sidelines in s1 and 3 as well.
I think season 1 & 2 were perfect as they were, but season 3 should've either been Javis' story or a squeal to season 2. Season 3 rally has nothing to do with anything on the past games.
They what Telltale thought when they started giving him all the screentime in Season 2! ...They were sadly mistaken.