About Conrad.
Kinda ironic how even thought he s determinant he s the Prescott Character who got the most character development.
His wife dying and him being depressed and reckless and determinantly recovering from it if he was not shot then apologizing to Javier , seeing his wife s murderer dead ((Either by javi s hand or His.)) then saving Javier in episode 4 during the shootout and determinantly dying to push Javier out of the way from the truck Kate s driving.
Meawhile eleanor has no character development besides ´´Lol i betrayed everyone´´ Tripp only has his ´´Romance´´ storyline . Its kind of ironic when you think about it that the person that 80/90% of the community killed is the one from the prescott trio that got the most character development.
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He's also the one character who, for some reason, people still hate and will not go back to save despite knowing that he would sacrifice his own life for Javier.
its the same as in the borderlands game where there was another trick choice like this except it was who s plan you trust the other player character s or a psychopath Hologram . If you pick the player character Fiona then one of the people helping you ((your best friend in the game)) gets paralized for half the episode while if you pick the other character you get a new character helping you and everyone makes it out of the situation without anything major happening.
althought it is more just people who dont like changing their saves more than anything since most players have this thing where they wont change their save until the game is complete and they want to replay it.
Because of the whole clementine thing.
and they all known that clem doesnt care anyway meaning its still because they dont want to change their playthought to keep the experience the same.
I don't think you understand people correctly. Many, such as myself, don't regret shooting him. Even with the knowledge of his arc I'd still want to make the same choice because it was a reaction to a hectic scene.
It's exactly because of his continued existence for other players that I feel like my choice actually made a difference, I didn't shoot Conrad because I disliked him, I shot him because he had a gun against my nephews head.
Hopefully the choice will have some kind of impact besides on just Conrad himself.
Nobody cares except Tripp and Eleanor. Clementine acts as if nothing happen if you agree with Conrad and Gabe acts as if Conrad was being a reasonable person who Javier gunned down.
It sounds that keeping Conrad alive is more of an advantage than a disadvantage.
It really is since Javier is made out as this murderer by Gabe and he's hated by Tripp and Eleanor when they found out. Not to mention Clementine acting as if nothing happened with Conrad if you keep him alive. Plus it adds a unique determinant factor to the game which the series has severely lacked.
Yeah but that was for the one scene, and even Conrad says in episode 4 that he doesn't want to be that kind of man so he left to figure out who the new Conrad is, before returning to save javier's life (twice determinantly) besides, not many people like Gabe so what would Conrad threatening him really matter? If this is a forced choice kind of thing because they are related, it is only forced because people make it forced, if people keep complaining that a relationship is forced, then they should just choose the choices that they want.
This.
I have no interest in going back in my saves to save Conrad based on the fact that he turns out to be an interesting character. I don't change my decisions on hindsight.
I think it's a decision that people made purely because they have learnt how telltale games work, rather than being the decision they otherwise would've made in the moment.
For this I feel bummed that I missed out on Conrad, but once he put a gun to my nephew's (/basically my stepson's) head, I didn't really see much of an option.
It also shows the players that choices do matter, and he is the only loyal member of Prescott alive if Tripp dies.
On the bright side, killing Conrad gives Tripp a lot more development outside of the corny romance plot.
Conrads is still better
That development is cut short if he's killed later on.
i wouldnt say someone getting angry because one of his friends who he just met a couple of days ago actually shot a friend he knewn for years is ´´a lot more character development´´ id say its more an obvious and normal reaction to said situation.
Because in that scene he still wants to sell clementine and holding gabe at gunpoint. As such he gets shot for being crazy
But he apologises eventually and puts his life on the line for Javier and the group, you can ever see by his facial expression that he feels sorry for clem when he hears about aj
he s just gonna respond with he still did it so i still shot him because it doesnt matter what he does after.
everytime Conrad gets mentioned i see this guy.
He made one mistake though. Clem trusted some random stranger over her own guardian and the entire group, which eventually determinantly lead to Ben's death and Lee's death but people still like her. She also got Omid killed, determinantly Kenny killed she somehow accidentally managed to shoot Eli in cold blood. But everyone still loves her despite all of these huge ass mistakes, but they still hate Conrad because of one mistake he made, which nobody died because of.
He intentionally holds a child at gunpoint related to the main character, points a gun at the main character and will only stop if you agree to sell another child member of the group to a murderous group who killed his wife and the main characters niece. Hes a monster in that scene and shooting him is the only sensible solution.
The fact he (sort of) says sorry later means nothing
I'd hardly call it sensible. If it were real life, his finger could have easily jerked upon dying, easily killing Gabe and what if Javier missed while firing at Conrad?
I really hope this happens in one of these games so people can stop going "No I had to shoot him in this really dangerous hostage situation."
Actually It did happen in season 2 lol
Really? At what point
Telling Kenny to shoot Carver. He doesn't kill him and then Carver shoots Alvin.
Yeah, I thought you meant that part.
thought it was pretty obvious you should not tell Kenny to shoot him since alvin wasnt that important to the story compared to rebecca Luke and Kenny .
you say that but you heavily dislike Gabe...
Ive said it before, Gabe being terrible doesnt mean conrad isnt a psychopathic killer who wanted to trade a child who used to be part of a group that killed his wife TO THE GROUP that killed his wife.....
He didn't know she used to be as far as he knew she was still apart of the group and Clementine constantly leaving Prescott with no explanation didn't help. and Conrad isn't psychotic at all
Not Psychotic
and Lee let Clementine die and Mike let go of the rope to let her die .
pretty much the only thing you guys have as an argument for not wanting to have more character development in the game something you guys complain alot too by saying all the characters are flat and more scenes in an episode because you want to protect someone you hate and a non canon scene as evidence.
Non canon scenes aren't to taken seriously for example in the recent Kenny flashback Clementine can get knocked over by a walker and Kenny just stupidly stands there instead of saving her
they re just gonna reply with ´´Well... some of them make sense! so it clearly makes this one canon and something the character would do!´´
I have 3 other saves, 2 of which i have Conrad alive in, but in my main save he is dead. I refuse to replay my main save because in games linked to making tough decisions I love sticking to the ones I make, even if they are terrible. It makes the game more tense and I feel a real responsibility when making decisions.
I do still regret my decision partially though...but still the option at the time was giving up a teenage girl to a group who we see as a gang of bandits and murders who could hurt her or protecting her from that and saving my nephew from a man who is threatening their lives.
Thank you for that insight.
I didn't know. I killed Conrad.
Not really. He kind of apologizes later and not even Gabe or Clem comment on it ever again. Then he goes from wanting revenge to not caring about what happens at all. He's pretty much all over the place
Agreed. If only because he actually has a defined character/purpose and we're actually given a personal/meaningful connection to his character whether we kill him or not.
And that's why Gabe exposing Javier for shooting Conrad sucks.