Would you kill Gabe or Ben?
If it meant survival for you, or your group, who would you kill to ensure survival?
By the way, this is Ben post episode 4 were talking about if you saved his life, not episode 2.
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If it meant survival for you, or your group, who would you kill to ensure survival?
By the way, this is Ben post episode 4 were talking about if you saved his life, not episode 2.
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Kill Gabe, of course. He is whining a lot and doesn't admit his stupid actions. Ben at least admitted he was a screw-up and was friendly to everyone. He even stood up to Kenny who was talking a lot of shit to him.
Neither. I'd hobble them both and run like hell while the Walkers took their time eating the pair.
Well, at least you got your priorities straight.
Gabe, no doubt. Ben at least recognize when he does wrong stuff/screw up. Survival wise, Ben could at least learn something as we deal with him a few months after the apocalypse meanwhile Gabe, after 4 years, don't know shit about survival, even how to behave and won't shut up when he's wrong.
fuck ben. he made the deal with the thieves who fucked up the motor inn. he didn´t pull the trigger and he had his reasons but he killed carley/doug and kenny jr (and his mother).
while gabe "just betrayed you" (and that is determin?) but nobody died cuz off him. he got javi stabbed by this funny looking guard and i know its popular to hate gabe. but i have to say ben is far worse. kill ben
Edit: you guys made good points. gabe never had the chance to fuck shit up like ben did. and ben always tried to redieem himself. i let ben life till the end but he never suceeded to.
like protecting clem from walkers and chuck had to step in, and chuck died later. another death caused by ben? kinda, not realy.
yeah ben was a spineless fuckup but he had his heart on the right spot.
while gabe is a like AdamGoodtme said a prick, ungreatfull little shit. i still have hope for gabe that he will redeem himself, probably wont happen
In what situation do I need to kill Ben or Gabe? Am I a Shane-esque person and I have to pick out my Otis? Or is it more of a matter of which one I would save if they were both group members in danger?
I'd kill Ben. Gabe has people he'd leave behind
Well, basically it's a shane and otis situation where your group or you are running from a walker herd.
You basically have to off the least worst of the 2.
Gabe definitley.
Ben at least was trying to help the group and prove his worth. His issue was that he didn't exactly have the best of judgement and didn't always think things through. But he at the very least had good intentions.
All Gabe is trying to do is prove he's a better man than he actually is by making very rash decisions and stabbing his uncle in the back simply because he told him to simmer down. He's not making these decisions because he wants to help. He's just trying to prove that his cock is bigger than his arm.
Neither. Just because I might dislike somebody (coughGabecough) doesn't make me want to kill them, unless they are literally (and willingly) trying to put another innocent person's life at risk. Ben was a scared kid who made some dumb choices sometimes, and quite frankly I think that most of us would end up acting like him (myself included) if we were in a similar situation.
Gabe's really been grinding my gears, and he definitely should know better in a lot of the rash actions he takes, but I wouldn't go out of my way to kill the little bastard.
Neither.
I wouldn't killer either of them, Ben is a much better character though.
But what matters more, intent or consequences? Ben always tried (although, admittedly, failed) to be a good person. His actions were out of fear for himself and the group. Gabe's choice were deliberate.
Ben's a screw-up, but Gabe's a prick. I wouldn't trust either to have my back, but I also consider Ben to be an overall moral human being (he accepts responsibility for his actions, and even tells Lee to drop him), meanwhile Gabe screws over someone who saved him and Clementine from a man who was (at the time) unhinged because he's childishly pissed about being left behind. He's an immature, self-centered, disloyal idiot.
Ben at least knows he is a fuckup and tries to improve, Gabe is a fuckup, and fucks up even more when he tries to not fuck up, the only positive thing Gabe has done this season is make Clementine happy by playing cards with her (no this does not mean Clementine is falling for Gabe, its a fucking game of cards)
gabe isn't a complete fuck up yet, and he can apologize for what he said pertaining to the conrad situation. he basically just wants to prove himself, yet he hasn't really obtained ideal guidance enough for him to succeed. ben on the other hand got people killed, and although he wasn't a bitchy asshole, he was pretty useless and i wouldn't trust him to do shit. gabe has some work to do, though he isn't useless.
Tough call in a scenario if neither isn't an option given to choose. Ben often endangered the group while trying to avoid threats. Gabe endangers the group through instigating or running toward threats. I have more compassion for Ben, although ultimately he cost Kenny everything. I feel like Gabe is going to get himself killed unless he's fortunate enough to have someone sacrifice themselves for him... realistically speaking I suppose if I were a Shane type character, I'd choose Ben, but they'd both die. I feel like if I clipped Ben to leave him for the herd as the scenario suggests, Gabe would take the initiative to attempt to save him.
Gabe, I'm not throwing Ben under the bus.
Simple Gabe.
They can have him become superman and he'd still be an insufferable punk an hope they kill him off
i feel that could happen actually, but fair enough.
Even though Ben fucked up several times, at least Ben never sold Lee out the way Gabe did to Javier and then be smug about it. Fuck Gabe! Badly, horribly written character. Tells you to shoot Conrad, then angrily scolds you for doing it in front of the group. Plus he just comes across as annoying as hell. At least Ben "tried" to do everything he could for the group. "Gabe your not a man...your nothin'"
While Ben always had the wellfare of the group in mind, remember, he made the deal to get the bandits off their back, Gabe profiles himself for selfish reasons. Take any action, except aiming at Conrad with his gun to "protect" Javier, the selfish reason will always stick out.
Ben also hoped to get his friend back, whoever he meant.
Give Gabe enough time, and his recklessness will get someone killed. He hadn't the "chance" yet.
No, but he broke the group apart and endangered the rescue of his own dad, so he put his personal "revenge" ABOVE the wellbeing of his dad, contrary to him saying he wants to be a part of the plan to save him no matter what. So he rather chooses to shine than to go the safest approach to save someone.
Again, Ben meant well but made a stupid decision.
Gabe intentionally put himself before the group by blurting out what he thought Javier did. And yes, he got Javier stabbed and COULD'VE get him killed, if Javier hadn't overpowered that guy.
Ben tries, and Ben learns.
Gabe bursts of selfishness.
Kill Gabe.
Edit: On top of that, Gabe is a hypocrite. He shouts "This guy is crazy, shoot him!", if you do, he rats you out. If you don't, he calls you a "fucking coward" twice.
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Gabe. Fuck Gabe.
Easy, kill Gabe.
Gabe honestly.
Honestly, Ben. As much as I felt bad for Ben, the kid was only alive in Season 1 due to luck, I doubt he would've lived long if homie didn't get impaled.
As much as Gabe is a trigger-happy, moody, teenage time-bomb, he's got good instincts. With a little guidance from Uncle Javi, he'll turn out fine.
Neither. I like Ben better, but I'm not giving up on anyone.