He gets himself and his dad killed if you don't go after them so while I don't hate him I can't ignore that he continues to make stupid choices. At least he tries. Ben and Sarah were too scared.
It was awkward because of how forced it felt and how hard telltale tried with gabe's death. It was sweet in your opinion in my opinion it was stupid and more of telltale try harding with gabe's death. Also clem didn't know him that well so why would his cards being giving to her matter? because it was sweet? he wasn't going to be able to use them and he didn't need them. Neither did clem. Him asking for a second hug killed his overly dramatic death scene and made it seem light and just because he's dying that doesn't give him a reason to ask for anything. Him being hugged once was enough and he should've just been thankful people he cared about was there with him. He redeems himself because he was dumb enough to get bit? weak enough to not avoid getting bit? and because he wanted to kill himself? that may be enough to redeem himself to you but to me it wasn't even close. He's dying why does it matter if he offers to kill himself or not?
How was it awkward seeing someone dying???? It should be sad, also how was the card thing cringe? Gabe just wanted Clem to remember him it w… moreas sweet in my opinion don't see how that's cringy and I don't know why asking for a second hug was cringy too. Also it should tell you something about his character he redeemed himself in Episode 5 and he gets bit and asks Javi to give him the gun and he goes out with a bang....
It was up to a non playable clem. Not a clem you had control over. Because of that what makes her "happy" is forced unless you can decide that. It should be up to the fans and players to decide what makes her happy. Not the plot, story or telltale. She never confessed any romantic feelings for gabe either. In fact her kissing gabe when he's dying and not when he's alive is just more gabe pandering and biased for his character and it shows if anything it was a mercy and farewell kiss and a kiss to a dying "man" it wasn't anything with romantic intent behind it. That kiss also being determinant also backs this up. She doesn't kiss him when he's alive plus she only hugs him once when he's alive. He had to ask her for a second hug and that kiss is avoidable. It's not set in stone like ava, tripp, and david dying.
No, for me he redeemed himself in Ep5 even though he lost his life in the process. Back when I didn't like Gabe I never truly hated him enou… moregh for me to want him to die. His death for sure struck me hard. People hated him because of being a human and for him liking Clementine. While I personal don't condone "Gabentine" it was really up to Clementine. Whatever makes her happy I would go along with
Absolutely. I know they tried to redeem him, but it was too late. Plz remember that episode 4 and episode 5 take place on the same day so the attempt at trying to change him just made him seem like he had different personalities. So his change in attitude in this last episode really felt like a desperate attempt at trying to make us like him.
To be fair, the stuff done with him in the finale was established and setup early on. It just took them till the finale to actually do something with most of it, which is one of my issues with Above the Law.
Anyway, I never hated the boy and always thought the initial hate he got for Part 1 was a mite silly.
i agree. although i feel that his character was a little inconsistent, i feel like a lot of different things were building up to his change in ep 5. for instance, in ep 2 gabe claims that he desires to change, and kate also comments on how he seems like he's growing up. it was a little too late in ep 5, and i dont understand what was going on when he seemed to dislike david then decided to go with him prior to david attempting to kill javi, but i was satisfied.
To be fair, the stuff done with him in the finale was established and setup early on. It just took them till the finale to actually do somet… morehing with most of it, which is one of my issues with Above the Law.
Anyway, I never hated the boy and always thought the initial hate he got for Part 1 was a mite silly.
They tried to redeem him on the same day as ep 4 and in one ep and if him offering to shoot himself is the only thing of note that he did then that's not redemption. He almost got javi killed. He didn't risk his life to save javi. He didn't make things right with javi and tripp. Tripp and javi made amends with what happened to conrad. He didn't help kate. He ran away when things got too tough. He didn't try to stop david from beating up javi if you don't fight back. There was no redemption for gabe. You have no reason to feel bad for gabe dying because unlike lee's death it's not set in stone and it can be avoided. Honestly him dying wasn't worth feeling bad over or crying about due to it being one possible outcome. Lee, kenny, jane, sarah, ava, tripp, david, duck and even luke dying was more impactful because you can't save them no matter what you do or try to do. The dog dying in season 2 was more impactful than gabe dying too and I hated that dog.
Absolutely. I know they tried to redeem him, but it was too late. Plz remember that episode 4 and episode 5 take place on the same day so th… moree attempt at trying to change him just made him seem like he had different personalities. So his change in attitude in this last episode really felt like a desperate attempt at trying to make us like him.
Again, the two main issues I objectively have with his character is 1. it took them forever to actually utilize his deeper aspects for character/story development(as I stated above), and 2. that friggin Conrad scene in Thicker than Water(which would've been fine if it was properly implemented into the story and gameplay).
Honestly, despite possibly having the least amount of issue in the finale due being the most fleshed out imo, the stuff you note about him hating David is another indication of how rushed and poorly paced(if not outright abandoneed) the subplots of this installment is.
i agree. although i feel that his character was a little inconsistent, i feel like a lot of different things were building up to his change … morein ep 5. for instance, in ep 2 gabe claims that he desires to change, and kate also comments on how he seems like he's growing up. it was a little too late in ep 5, and i dont understand what was going on when he seemed to dislike david then decided to go with him prior to david attempting to kill javi, but i was satisfied.
yeah, they should've made david force gabe to come with him and like threaten him or something from the very beginning. they should've made something happen between kate and javi if they were romantic with each other cause a fight with david, and a distant relationship with kate would cause the fight scene to not occur. the "make peace with david" choice never occurred, clem had to point a gun at him or shoot him. they should've also made the snitching scene determinant based on how you treated him, like if you sided with him in ep 3, blamed him for the situation at the armory, etc.
Again, the two main issues I objectively have with his character is 1. it took them forever to actually utilize his deeper aspects for chara… morecter/story development(as I stated above), and 2. that friggin Conrad scene in Thicker than Water(which would've been fine if it was properly implemented into the story and gameplay).
Honestly, despite possibly having the least amount of issue in the finale due being the most fleshed out imo, the stuff you note about him hating David is another indication of how rushed and poorly paced(if not outright abandoneed) the subplots of this installment is.
Manchita, Delfina, Evo, Musha, Luna, Leo, Shiva, Fidel and Frida. (Thought they were 8 my bad).
Fidel is the youngest one. He remindes me of Gabe because he's clumsy and stupida as fuck, he was adopted (by Shiva), used to have a sister (RIP) who was way better than him, he's a mama boy and a little duche but I still love him. Frida was a stray cat I found next to a fallen tree and took her home. She's way more badass than Fidel, who is always hitting on her, but she ignored him until recently. I think Shiva wants to adopt her too. But she will have to go on her way in a while and find her own owners.
No. I never hated him. Annoyed at times would be a much better word. As Javi said, he sure does have his moments. I only really started feeling a strong connection to him in the finale. In my playthrough he's still alive, but man that scene with him dying was heartbreaking. Those last moments where he acknowledges and appreciates how Javi essentially raised him and was a father to him and the maturity he showed was heartwrenching. I personally didn't find offering the cards to be weird or out of place.
I believe the "make peace with David" scene occurred when you decided to go after David and Gabe (with Clem), and when David tried to walk away, you are given the choices to let him go on his way or convince him to stay with the rest of his family..
yeah, they should've made david force gabe to come with him and like threaten him or something from the very beginning. they should've made … moresomething happen between kate and javi if they were romantic with each other cause a fight with david, and a distant relationship with kate would cause the fight scene to not occur. the "make peace with david" choice never occurred, clem had to point a gun at him or shoot him. they should've also made the snitching scene determinant based on how you treated him, like if you sided with him in ep 3, blamed him for the situation at the armory, etc.
He gets himself and his dad killed if you don't go after them so while I don't hate him I can't ignore that he continues to make stupid choices. At least he tries. Ben and Sarah were too scared.
He reminds me of Nick and Duck combined. I'm still disappointed at him in episode 4 but I felt bad that he got killed. Why can't there just be at least 2-3 characters that are alive and not determinant so they can get a cheap written death at some point?
He grew on me somehow, I guess he reminds me of actual family I have. My ideal ending would be going to save him without Clementine but I think Kate disappears even if you're in a relationship with her.
This is the second time I heard about this redemption - where is it? I managed to save Gabe & David, but I still hate him. Not even because I want to, but just because he hasn't redeemed himself at all in my playthrough. Even watching his death scenes made me feel nothing, and it was nicely done too! Gabe was just one of those characters that really seared into my heart in a bad way.
No not really. Now I just don't care about him. Only thing I dislike about Gabe is the forced romance between him and Clementine, but now he's dead in my playthrough so I don't have to worry about that.
I never hate Gabe to begin with, because I understand what he's been going through with puberty in the zombie apocalypse.
Plus, he reminds me of my own nephew...I would never hope death upon my own nephew just because he is annoying...
No not really. Now I just don't care about him. Only thing I dislike about Gabe is the forced romance between him and Clementine, but now he's dead in my playthrough so I don't have to worry about that.
Sorry I didn't mean to come across like that. I didn't want the kid dead nor am I glad he is, hell his death scene was the only time I actually felt anything close to sadness throughout the entire game. I just meant that his death means there's no way Telltale can force a romance between him and Clementine in season 4.
Sorry I didn't mean to come across like that. I didn't want the kid dead nor am I glad he is, hell his death scene was the only time I actua… morelly felt anything close to sadness throughout the entire game. I just meant that his death means there's no way Telltale can force a romance between him and Clementine in season 4.
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Nah that's on Kate
Yes. I'm going to change my ending and have him killed because fuck him.
It was awkward because of how forced it felt and how hard telltale tried with gabe's death. It was sweet in your opinion in my opinion it was stupid and more of telltale try harding with gabe's death. Also clem didn't know him that well so why would his cards being giving to her matter? because it was sweet? he wasn't going to be able to use them and he didn't need them. Neither did clem. Him asking for a second hug killed his overly dramatic death scene and made it seem light and just because he's dying that doesn't give him a reason to ask for anything. Him being hugged once was enough and he should've just been thankful people he cared about was there with him. He redeems himself because he was dumb enough to get bit? weak enough to not avoid getting bit? and because he wanted to kill himself? that may be enough to redeem himself to you but to me it wasn't even close. He's dying why does it matter if he offers to kill himself or not?
It was up to a non playable clem. Not a clem you had control over. Because of that what makes her "happy" is forced unless you can decide that. It should be up to the fans and players to decide what makes her happy. Not the plot, story or telltale. She never confessed any romantic feelings for gabe either. In fact her kissing gabe when he's dying and not when he's alive is just more gabe pandering and biased for his character and it shows if anything it was a mercy and farewell kiss and a kiss to a dying "man" it wasn't anything with romantic intent behind it. That kiss also being determinant also backs this up. She doesn't kiss him when he's alive plus she only hugs him once when he's alive. He had to ask her for a second hug and that kiss is avoidable. It's not set in stone like ava, tripp, and david dying.
There was nothing to feel guilt over. Even if you asked for it or wanted it to happen it's avoidable.
Absolutely. I know they tried to redeem him, but it was too late. Plz remember that episode 4 and episode 5 take place on the same day so the attempt at trying to change him just made him seem like he had different personalities. So his change in attitude in this last episode really felt like a desperate attempt at trying to make us like him.
To be fair, the stuff done with him in the finale was established and setup early on. It just took them till the finale to actually do something with most of it, which is one of my issues with Above the Law.
Anyway, I never hated the boy and always thought the initial hate he got for Part 1 was a mite silly.
Yeah, seriously. That almost took me out of an otherwise emotion encouraging scene.
i agree. although i feel that his character was a little inconsistent, i feel like a lot of different things were building up to his change in ep 5. for instance, in ep 2 gabe claims that he desires to change, and kate also comments on how he seems like he's growing up. it was a little too late in ep 5, and i dont understand what was going on when he seemed to dislike david then decided to go with him prior to david attempting to kill javi, but i was satisfied.
Yeah, pretty much. Still, his condition doesn't make me go "aw" so much as "ew".
"Grab my cards..." Grab them! It's an order!
Gabe really took after his dad, didn't he.
They tried to redeem him on the same day as ep 4 and in one ep and if him offering to shoot himself is the only thing of note that he did then that's not redemption. He almost got javi killed. He didn't risk his life to save javi. He didn't make things right with javi and tripp. Tripp and javi made amends with what happened to conrad. He didn't help kate. He ran away when things got too tough. He didn't try to stop david from beating up javi if you don't fight back. There was no redemption for gabe. You have no reason to feel bad for gabe dying because unlike lee's death it's not set in stone and it can be avoided. Honestly him dying wasn't worth feeling bad over or crying about due to it being one possible outcome. Lee, kenny, jane, sarah, ava, tripp, david, duck and even luke dying was more impactful because you can't save them no matter what you do or try to do. The dog dying in season 2 was more impactful than gabe dying too and I hated that dog.
Again, the two main issues I objectively have with his character is 1. it took them forever to actually utilize his deeper aspects for character/story development(as I stated above), and 2. that friggin Conrad scene in Thicker than Water(which would've been fine if it was properly implemented into the story and gameplay).
Honestly, despite possibly having the least amount of issue in the finale due being the most fleshed out imo, the stuff you note about him hating David is another indication of how rushed and poorly paced(if not outright abandoneed) the subplots of this installment is.
yeah, they should've made david force gabe to come with him and like threaten him or something from the very beginning. they should've made something happen between kate and javi if they were romantic with each other cause a fight with david, and a distant relationship with kate would cause the fight scene to not occur. the "make peace with david" choice never occurred, clem had to point a gun at him or shoot him. they should've also made the snitching scene determinant based on how you treated him, like if you sided with him in ep 3, blamed him for the situation at the armory, etc.
Nope. I once knew a cat lady. She had 42 cats.
Manchita, Delfina, Evo, Musha, Luna, Leo, Shiva, Fidel and Frida. (Thought they were 8 my bad).
Fidel is the youngest one. He remindes me of Gabe because he's clumsy and stupida as fuck, he was adopted (by Shiva), used to have a sister (RIP) who was way better than him, he's a mama boy and a little duche but I still love him. Frida was a stray cat I found next to a fallen tree and took her home. She's way more badass than Fidel, who is always hitting on her, but she ignored him until recently. I think Shiva wants to adopt her too. But she will have to go on her way in a while and find her own owners.
The pararelism is scary.
Are you telling me who I should and shouldn't like?
'Cause I'm not too fond of people that sell me down the river for saving their lives.
Gabe grabbed the steering wheel and caused the crash. That's not Kate's fault and wouldn't be an intelligent decision were there not muertos.
No. I never hated him. Annoyed at times would be a much better word. As Javi said, he sure does have his moments. I only really started feeling a strong connection to him in the finale. In my playthrough he's still alive, but man that scene with him dying was heartbreaking. Those last moments where he acknowledges and appreciates how Javi essentially raised him and was a father to him and the maturity he showed was heartwrenching. I personally didn't find offering the cards to be weird or out of place.
I believe the "make peace with David" scene occurred when you decided to go after David and Gabe (with Clem), and when David tried to walk away, you are given the choices to let him go on his way or convince him to stay with the rest of his family..
Bullshit. Ben and Sarah did nothing worse than Gabe. He never proved himself to step up.
But how do I make it so Clementine won't go and save him?
I Didn't save him. I went with Kate.
He reminds me of Nick and Duck combined. I'm still disappointed at him in episode 4 but I felt bad that he got killed. Why can't there just be at least 2-3 characters that are alive and not determinant so they can get a cheap written death at some point?
He grew on me somehow, I guess he reminds me of actual family I have. My ideal ending would be going to save him without Clementine but I think Kate disappears even if you're in a relationship with her.
I never hate Gabe to begin with, because I understand what he's been going through with puberty in the zombie apocalypse.
Plus, he reminds me of my own nephew...I would never hope death upon my own nephew just because he is annoying...
This is the second time I heard about this redemption - where is it? I managed to save Gabe & David, but I still hate him. Not even because I want to, but just because he hasn't redeemed himself at all in my playthrough. Even watching his death scenes made me feel nothing, and it was nicely done too! Gabe was just one of those characters that really seared into my heart in a bad way.
Hey don't blame Gabe for that, blame Clem, cause remember SHE'S THE ONE WHO KISSED HIM....
Go After Gabe & David come on guys look at what Gabe says at 4:20, forgive this poor kid already! ;-;
I don't hate Gabe, I never hated him. He is (was, for me) just a stupid kid.
No not really. Now I just don't care about him. Only thing I dislike about Gabe is the forced romance between him and Clementine, but now he's dead in my playthrough so I don't have to worry about that.
I never ACTUALLY hated him. I was kinda mad though after Episode 4, but he WON me back Multiple times over in Episode 5.
Exactly.
Well...that makes two of us.
Jeez you're heartless, video game character or not, that's fucked up ._.
Sorry I didn't mean to come across like that. I didn't want the kid dead nor am I glad he is, hell his death scene was the only time I actually felt anything close to sadness throughout the entire game. I just meant that his death means there's no way Telltale can force a romance between him and Clementine in season 4.
It's cool ._.
No, I'm not saying that, just expected you to like him after Episode 5 that's all ._.
Didn't mean it like that ._.
Why is this thread back? I mean, I know you people really love talking on and on about the boy, but why this thread specifically?
I lost all hope for him when he snitched on his dad ("Don't be like your uncle.") like damn. Javier and Marianna are the only Garcia's that I respect.
He's just a kid....