fuck **** she cant see that ***** is just trying to help
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she cant see david is trying to help
tbh Kate's attitude toward David really bothered me the entire season. Are we supposed to think he was abusive to her? I got the impression he got mood swings but the way she doesn't seem at all happy he is alive or consider his rights regarding his son, whom she is not the mother of, left me cold. She shows no concern for him or what he's going through at all only how it affects her.
My Javier plans to.
...How exactly is David trying to help? In what context?
In a flashback she was terrified to tell him that she'd broken a glass, even as she was bleeding profusely. That is a pretty big indicator of an abusive relationship, mentally, emotionally or otherwise.
Good intentions don't make you a wonderful person. He literally hit his son with a wrench and beat up his brother for basically nothing.
Ya I didn't get that. Javier ignored Kate's romantic advances then flat out rejected her and was always loyal to David so when I told David I never acted inappropriately that shouldn't have sparked the same reaction as if they had been having an affair.
She wasn't terrified, she even talked back to him pretty boldly given the circumstances. She just broke an irreplaceable glass that David got from his dead CO and she has the nerve to say "if you got a better dishwasher that wouldn't have happened". I'm surprised David wasn't yelling at her, if anything that shows he's capable of restraint.
only cause Javi was there. Who knows what would have happened otherwise.
That scene makes me sick. I can't believe there was a point where she worried more about a fucking mug that her own health. Yeah no one dies for a little cut in thw hand but damn it's the hand and it hurts a fucking lot. No wonder why she fell in love with Javi. It was a different thing, having someone to care about her.
I'm not sure why you think Javier being there made any difference. David beats on him multiple times throughout A New Frontier. Kate pretty much admits what her problem in that marriage was in episode 4. She says that falling in love is easy, but staying in love is hard. She married him on a whim and regrets it.
Good one.
Also, it was an accident, dude.
This is true.
Only reason why Kate argued back was because Javier's presence gave her confidence.
That's the reason why David was confused like: "Excuse me?". He probably expected Kate to just take up the emotional beating like it probably normally goes. But no, she argued back because Javier was there.
People are always more bold when they have people to back them up.
David was always very envious towards Javier for one reason or another. Whether Salvador truly favored Javier or not, there was a history of vitriol going on for years. Unfortunately David in that moment couldn't handle the thought of losing again--especially considering it was his new-wife to his little brother.
tough to be a "family is everything" big brother when you are beating your wife.
It was said nowhere that he beats her, you're just assuming he does. In the worst case he abuses her emotionally, which is pretty much as bad but let's not get carried away.
She said he gets pissy about things. I'm just saying that if you love someone you would be relieved to know they're alive, if only for their child's sake. As someone who has been in and removed myself from an abusive relationship, I still have cares for that person's wellbeing. She could say "I'm glad you're alive" or "Gabe missed you" or something along those lines even if she had plans to leave him.
That does make sense, I can see that happening. But I think anyone would have the same surprised reaction as him if someone did what Kate did and put the blame on you instead of apologizing.
I could see the build to it but at the same time it seemed disrespectful to my choices. You have to allow him to beat you within inches of death to have any sort of semi positive relationship going forward or opportunity to save his life.also Clementine's choice seems to affect whether David can live or not. More circumstantial evidence that Telltale wanted us to be sympathetic toward Kate and tell David to go f**k himself.
KAte knows that DAvid never went back to look for them. HE just left them all for dead, he even says he assumed they were dead.
I was just playing off your " He beats JAvi why would that stop him?" I thought you were saying he would beat her right in front of him.
I think that the writers wanted there to be a big fight between the brothers over the love triangle thing, regardless of whether you chose to flirt with Kate or not. With all the talk of the season 3 choices mattering, this is one storyline where the choices should have mattered but didn't. I'm still ok with David as I had already expected him to go crazy over the Kate thing.
Oh no that's not what I meant. I was saying that he wasn't considering Javier as a factor at all in that situation.
He also says he couldn't get back into Baltimore implying he did try to go back initially. We must assume martial law was imposed as more people started dying or getting bit and turning into walkers. The whole country would have been a madhouse. Why he didn't try again later we don't know but it may be due to the city being overrun. Rick would have died in Atlanta looking for Lori and Carl if not for Glenn. I guess David wasn't as optimistic as Rick...
Yeah David was helping alright...helping himself to bashing my face in with a wrench. Also Gabe but I kinda laughed at Gabe getting whacked (I know, I'm heartless.)
Some people are born to do great things, other's are born to be petulant man-children who get cucked because they can't go a day without whining to everyone about how they're being singled out by everyone.
Kate and David have both been r00d d00ds throughout the season.
but at least Kate didn't go around killing unpredictably.
Fuck Kate she is an annoying manipulative cunt
Fuck both Kate and David. Why wasn't there an option to have Javi's whole family killed?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I was always indifferent to Kate, pretty much tried to ignore her throughout the season, but by the end of episode 5 I started to really dislike her as a character. If David was abusive it was most likely verbally, which I know it's not any better but she could leave him before the apocalypse if she wanted, it's not like he would go after her and kill her or something. I always got the impression the reason she didn't was because she had feelings for Javier and didn't want to leave. Once the apocalypse rolled in and it was only her, Javi and the kids it's pretty clear she doesn't want David around to ruin that. All of her reactions around David aren't of a scared wife, it's more of indifference and trying to ignore he was there to begin with. She even says something to Javi along the lines of, "let's go back to the road, together, like before" among other things. At every turn she was trying to make Javi leave with her, ignoring what Gabe wanted and ignoring the fact that David, Javi's brother and Gabe's dad, was alive. It annoys me when people give up on others so easily, specially when it's family or someone close to you.
David was far more abusive to Javier than he ever was in the game to Kate. Plus let's not forget Kate actively kept trying to provoke him and make him become violent.
Was she?
Things that obviously enraged David resulting in the forced conflict between Javier and David. Kate knows David quite well and she know that what she was doing was going to cause him to erupt yet she acts so shocked when he does.
David was trying to help, but he was pretty much showing his intentions in a horrible way. Thought doesn't always play the complete role, actions have the most influence. I can't blame Kate for not loving him any longer.
But she fucked up as well, too.
I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a scene where she confides in you why she wanted to escape from David and didn't care when he turned up alive like at all, so much so she didn't even talk to him.
There seem to be a lot of conversations that never happened in this series that really should've, but this one would've given you the perspective on why you would side with Kate and understand her more.
I think an abusive relationship was signaled towards, but it really needed that moment where Kate tells you it's true and confides that with you.
Kate really needed more reasoning for not at all engaging with David and being so readily able to dump the kids. The fact she paid 0 attention to David just made her seem beyond cold.
Really disliked her character in general.