In Season 1, definitely. I just wish Telltale would stop trying to make characters that act like him and start making characters that function like him(and most of Season 1's cast) from a basic gameplay perspective again.
It's one of the reasons why characters like Sarah and Gabe are such wasted characters.
In episode 4 flashback, she is trying to imply that Clem doesnt need her which means she was planning to attempt suicide from beginning. And episode 1 , she finally did that.
In episode 4 flashback, she is trying to imply that Clem doesnt need her which means she was planning to attempt suicide from beginning. And episode 1 , she finally did that.
Prisoner abuse...verbally abusive to group members...neglectful of his original family...not even willing to consider Katjaa's thoughts on anything...do not back Kenny up in killing Larry he is willing to let you die in the pharmacy. Also never thinks anything through...just ask Walter about that. Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington even though they had no idea where the fuck it was. Mike and Bonnie's betrayal is his fault.
Prisoner abuse...verbally abusive to group members...neglectful of his original family...not even willing to consider Katjaa's thoughts on a… morenything...do not back Kenny up in killing Larry he is willing to let you die in the pharmacy. Also never thinks anything through...just ask Walter about that. Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington even though they had no idea where the fuck it was. Mike and Bonnie's betrayal is his fault.
Does neglect really count as abuse, though? Unless he was outright starving them(which he clearly wasn't, Katjaa), I don't see the connection.
Also, I'd say he was only really abusive in Season 2. In Season 1, he just became a moody dick.
Didn't you spend time making a tastelessly bitter meme of me? Poorly shat together and extremely un-funny?
I think it was you. How have you been recently? Still being a bitter person?
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Ah yes, here it is... Took me some doing to dig up, more time than you deserve, frankly. But I'd like to address the elephant in the room while I'm wasting my time.
What I find more funny about you than anything is that you claim to be so above other's hating a, let's be frank, quite deplorable fictional character and yet I've never seen you call out anyone for their Jane hatred or the likes of anyone else that vehemently dislikes another character. You seem to have something leveled against me personally, did I hurt your precious feelings back when I used to speak out against Kenny more actively than most people here? I've since relaxed my hatred cause he, much like you, isn't really worth getting upset at... Just sad to be honest. Plus he's now dead across everyone's game, which has brought me great whimsy and delight, I won't lie.
Now, continue trying to disrespect other's opinions cause of your narrow-mindedness.
Verbally abusive? Eh, not really. He shouted at the group at times and could be forceful with his opinions, but he was never on the scale of being abusive, where he'd regularly verbally put them down. The closest is probably Ben, but in fairness, that guy was kinda responsible for his son's death. In season 2, perhaps, Arvo, but again, he has pretty legit reasons for not treating him too good considering, ya know, Arvo nearly had everyone killed and robbed. Kenny actions weren't good, nor justified, but treating people who caused someone else's death is definitely understandable and I'm sure most who react in similar fashion.
He definitely wasn't neglectful to his family. He always chose to put them first, which is why he was always so stubborn with his ideas for the group. His entire original arc is him caring about his family and trying to ensure their survival, so I truly fail to see how he was neglecting them in an abusive manner.
I can agree with the pharmacy incident. Kenny was obviously wrong there, but the reason he did it was because he believed Lee had put his family at risk by not helping him, which only further disproves this apparent neglect of his family you claimed.
Not thinking things though is not abusive. He's stubborn and even reckless, sure, but that doesn't make someone abusive.
Sorry, but when did Kenny try to manipulate Clementine? He tried to convince her, but he didn't use any manipulation tactics to do that. Unless you consider him bringing up Lee, but that was more of a case of him having fond memories of the two of them together, and not because he was trying to emotionally trick her into agreeing with his plan. If anyone was manipulative, it was Jane, but Kenny most certainty was never manipulative or purposelessly deceitful to Clementine in season 2.
You can't blame Kenny for the actions of someone else. Mike and Bonnie made their own choice and only they can be held responsible for them, even if Kenny may have been what motivated them to do it.
Prisoner abuse...verbally abusive to group members...neglectful of his original family...not even willing to consider Katjaa's thoughts on a… morenything...do not back Kenny up in killing Larry he is willing to let you die in the pharmacy. Also never thinks anything through...just ask Walter about that. Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington even though they had no idea where the fuck it was. Mike and Bonnie's betrayal is his fault.
Lol Telltale did it to make themselves happy because the majority obviously liked Kenny as well. I'm glad they did. Never liked Jane. Kenny had his moments, some i didnt always agree with but would never choose Jane over him ever
The ending to season 2 felt like a retcon to the entire season before that. I won't argue against it because it was the vision the writers p… moreut forward, but it was really just there to make Kenny fans happy, imo. I mean, you take this hot headed guy who spent half of his screen time either shouting at, insulting, or beating the hell out of someone, and somehow, after killing the last member of the group he drove away, he becomes a cool headed guardian who found the settlement that had no proof of existing?
If you say so, Telltale.
Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington
Er no. There is no evidence to suggest that he was manipulating her into his plan of Wellington. She can disagree for a start and the conversation goes no further than him feeling disappointed. Just another negative thing the haters add to the fire. Sad
Prisoner abuse...verbally abusive to group members...neglectful of his original family...not even willing to consider Katjaa's thoughts on a… morenything...do not back Kenny up in killing Larry he is willing to let you die in the pharmacy. Also never thinks anything through...just ask Walter about that. Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington even though they had no idea where the fuck it was. Mike and Bonnie's betrayal is his fault.
a friend who is only a friend if you agree with him all the time is no friend
As far as im concerned in an APOCALYPSE, that is what passes for a friend. You have to have each others backs and if you don't then you're either a danger to said person or you only have a survival of the fittest type attitude or you're just stupid thinking life is how it used to be when it's not
Yes Kenny was abusive...a friend who is only a friend if you agree with him all the time is no friend. He was also unbelievable in season … more2....getting his orbital crushed and then going on like it was nothing...yeah right. Kenny should never have been in season 2....he is a prime reason I think Telltale should stay away from bringing back Lilly and Christa....or they should have stuck with the idea of Kenny being the bad guy and actually put some real fucking drama in the game by having us torn between an old comrade...or doing what is right.
Kenny leaving Lee to die in the pharmacy is the most unjustifiable thing he can do, leaving a friend to die because they disagreed with you one time. Surely the fact that Lee risks his life to save Katjaa and Duck moments after the Larry situation would be reason enough for Kenny to forgive him. And Kenny must realise how much Lee means to Clem by that point, he's just selfish.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kenny, I just think he's a massive arsehole sometimes.
Verbally abusive? Eh, not really. He shouted at the group at times and could be forceful with his opinions, but he was never on the scale of… more being abusive, where he'd regularly verbally put them down. The closest is probably Ben, but in fairness, that guy was kinda responsible for his son's death. In season 2, perhaps, Arvo, but again, he has pretty legit reasons for not treating him too good considering, ya know, Arvo nearly had everyone killed and robbed. Kenny actions weren't good, nor justified, but treating people who caused someone else's death is definitely understandable and I'm sure most who react in similar fashion.
He definitely wasn't neglectful to his family. He always chose to put them first, which is why he was always so stubborn with his ideas for the group. His entire original arc is him caring about his family and trying to ensure their survival, so I truly fail to see how he was neglecting them in an abusive manner.
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Dan you are a major Kensplainer.....Ep 5 at the house...after he gets the truck fixed and everyone leaves and he is in the truck pissed off...his entire speech is about how it is up to he and Clem to save AJ...and Wellington is the only way that AJ will survive...people like Jane...she does not understand what we understand(in a nutshell...that's manipulating an 11 year old and inviting her to the grownup seat in a play to get her from wanting to go back to Howes(The only place they know where it is at that has the formula)
Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington
Er no. There is no evidence to suggest that he was mani… morepulating her into his plan of Wellington. She can disagree for a start and the conversation goes no further than him feeling disappointed. Just another negative thing the haters add to the fire. Sad
Um, yeah, I agree. I've always said that there isn't any justification for what he did there. It was wrong, plain and simple. I was just explaining why he had acted how he did. He believed that Lee had put his family at risk and due to his stubborn nature, he couldn't look past it.
I like Kenny, but like you, I won't deny that he can be a right dick.
Kenny leaving Lee to die in the pharmacy is the most unjustifiable thing he can do, leaving a friend to die because they disagreed with you … moreone time. Surely the fact that Lee risks his life to save Katjaa and Duck moments after the Larry situation would be reason enough for Kenny to forgive him. And Kenny must realise how much Lee means to Clem by that point, he's just selfish.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kenny, I just think he's a massive arsehole sometimes.
Didn't you spend time making a tastelessly bitter meme of me? Poorly shat together and extremely un-funny?
I think it was you. How have y… moreou been recently? Still being a bitter person?
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Ah yes, here it is... Took me some doing to dig up, more time than you deserve, frankly. But I'd like to address the elephant in the room while I'm wasting my time.
What I find more funny about you than anything is that you claim to be so above other's hating a, let's be frank, quite deplorable fictional character and yet I've never seen you call out anyone for their Jane hatred or the likes of anyone else that vehemently dislikes another character. You seem to have something leveled against me personally, did I hurt your precious feelings back when I used to speak out against Kenny more actively than most people here? I've since relaxed my hatred cause he, much like you, isn't really worth getting upset at... Just sad to be honest. Plus he… [view original content]
This is quite possibly the most pathetic post I've ever seen on this forum. Imagining harboring this pent up anger and passive agressive attitude for more than 2 years purely because people have a different opinion than you when it comes to a fictional character in a video game. You have some growing up to do.
Didn't you spend time making a tastelessly bitter meme of me? Poorly shat together and extremely un-funny?
I think it was you. How have y… moreou been recently? Still being a bitter person?
EDIT:
Ah yes, here it is... Took me some doing to dig up, more time than you deserve, frankly. But I'd like to address the elephant in the room while I'm wasting my time.
What I find more funny about you than anything is that you claim to be so above other's hating a, let's be frank, quite deplorable fictional character and yet I've never seen you call out anyone for their Jane hatred or the likes of anyone else that vehemently dislikes another character. You seem to have something leveled against me personally, did I hurt your precious feelings back when I used to speak out against Kenny more actively than most people here? I've since relaxed my hatred cause he, much like you, isn't really worth getting upset at... Just sad to be honest. Plus he… [view original content]
I'm flattered you took time out of your busy schedule to make it and that my opinion of a character affected you so personally you had to, and still have to act like a petulant child whenever faced with any form of differing opinion from others.
I'd Also just like to say that RAAAAAR at the end was excellent, typed up like a true butthurt crusader.
I'm all for other people's opinion, but being insulted isn't something I'm particularly fond of, especially when it's uncalled for from someone who takes joke posts far too seriously.
But my, baiting 3 people so far off of a gif I made well over a year ago... I can't tell in this instance who the pathetic ones are.
This is quite possibly the most pathetic post I've ever seen on this forum. Imagining harboring this pent up anger and passive agressive att… moreitude for more than 2 years purely because people have a different opinion than you when it comes to a fictional character in a video game. You have some growing up to do.
I'm all for other people's opinion, but being insulted isn't something I'm particularly fond of, especially when it's uncalled for from some… moreone who takes joke posts far too seriously.
But my, baiting 3 people so far off of a gif I made well over a year ago... I can't tell in this instance who the pathetic ones are.
Sorry for intruding (and I probably don't know the whole story) but Everyone'sClemInTime can hate Kenny if they want to. I like Kenny but he definitely isn't the most flawless character in the game. No need to insult them over their opinion.
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Dont you see the Jane flashback ?
In Season 1, definitely. I just wish Telltale would stop trying to make characters that act like him and start making characters that function like him(and most of Season 1's cast) from a basic gameplay perspective again.
It's one of the reasons why characters like Sarah and Gabe are such wasted characters.
No, I went into Wellington..
In episode 4 flashback, she is trying to imply that Clem doesnt need her which means she was planning to attempt suicide from beginning. And episode 1 , she finally did that.
...Holy shit. And I thought the Episode 4 flashback was pointless before.
No they are showing the events that lead to ep1 flashbacks.
I know that and that just adds to the pointlessness of Jane's specifically.
Prisoner abuse...verbally abusive to group members...neglectful of his original family...not even willing to consider Katjaa's thoughts on anything...do not back Kenny up in killing Larry he is willing to let you die in the pharmacy. Also never thinks anything through...just ask Walter about that. Using manipulation to try and get Clem to agree to go looking for Wellington even though they had no idea where the fuck it was. Mike and Bonnie's betrayal is his fault.
Does neglect really count as abuse, though? Unless he was outright starving them(which he clearly wasn't, Katjaa), I don't see the connection.
Also, I'd say he was only really abusive in Season 2. In Season 1, he just became a moody dick.
Welcome to the family, son.
Yes actually it does...and for the record...once again...Loved him in S1
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Tumblr? The forum known for having 50+ gender users over there? Lawl...
Didn't you spend time making a tastelessly bitter meme of me? Poorly shat together and extremely un-funny?
I think it was you. How have you been recently? Still being a bitter person?
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Ah yes, here it is... Took me some doing to dig up, more time than you deserve, frankly. But I'd like to address the elephant in the room while I'm wasting my time.
What I find more funny about you than anything is that you claim to be so above other's hating a, let's be frank, quite deplorable fictional character and yet I've never seen you call out anyone for their Jane hatred or the likes of anyone else that vehemently dislikes another character. You seem to have something leveled against me personally, did I hurt your precious feelings back when I used to speak out against Kenny more actively than most people here? I've since relaxed my hatred cause he, much like you, isn't really worth getting upset at... Just sad to be honest. Plus he's now dead across everyone's game, which has brought me great whimsy and delight, I won't lie.
Now, continue trying to disrespect other's opinions cause of your narrow-mindedness.
How do you use a gender?
Verbally abusive? Eh, not really. He shouted at the group at times and could be forceful with his opinions, but he was never on the scale of being abusive, where he'd regularly verbally put them down. The closest is probably Ben, but in fairness, that guy was kinda responsible for his son's death. In season 2, perhaps, Arvo, but again, he has pretty legit reasons for not treating him too good considering, ya know, Arvo nearly had everyone killed and robbed. Kenny actions weren't good, nor justified, but treating people who caused someone else's death is definitely understandable and I'm sure most who react in similar fashion.
He definitely wasn't neglectful to his family. He always chose to put them first, which is why he was always so stubborn with his ideas for the group. His entire original arc is him caring about his family and trying to ensure their survival, so I truly fail to see how he was neglecting them in an abusive manner.
I can agree with the pharmacy incident. Kenny was obviously wrong there, but the reason he did it was because he believed Lee had put his family at risk by not helping him, which only further disproves this apparent neglect of his family you claimed.
Not thinking things though is not abusive. He's stubborn and even reckless, sure, but that doesn't make someone abusive.
Sorry, but when did Kenny try to manipulate Clementine? He tried to convince her, but he didn't use any manipulation tactics to do that. Unless you consider him bringing up Lee, but that was more of a case of him having fond memories of the two of them together, and not because he was trying to emotionally trick her into agreeing with his plan. If anyone was manipulative, it was Jane, but Kenny most certainty was never manipulative or purposelessly deceitful to Clementine in season 2.
You can't blame Kenny for the actions of someone else. Mike and Bonnie made their own choice and only they can be held responsible for them, even if Kenny may have been what motivated them to do it.
Lol Telltale did it to make themselves happy because the majority obviously liked Kenny as well. I'm glad they did. Never liked Jane. Kenny had his moments, some i didnt always agree with but would never choose Jane over him ever
Er no. There is no evidence to suggest that he was manipulating her into his plan of Wellington. She can disagree for a start and the conversation goes no further than him feeling disappointed. Just another negative thing the haters add to the fire. Sad
AMEN TO THIS!! It's all he ever does
As far as im concerned in an APOCALYPSE, that is what passes for a friend. You have to have each others backs and if you don't then you're either a danger to said person or you only have a survival of the fittest type attitude or you're just stupid thinking life is how it used to be when it's not
Kenny leaving Lee to die in the pharmacy is the most unjustifiable thing he can do, leaving a friend to die because they disagreed with you one time. Surely the fact that Lee risks his life to save Katjaa and Duck moments after the Larry situation would be reason enough for Kenny to forgive him. And Kenny must realise how much Lee means to Clem by that point, he's just selfish.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kenny, I just think he's a massive arsehole sometimes.
Lol, the first post about Kenny I've made in about a month... Get your facts straight Dan.
Dan you are a major Kensplainer.....Ep 5 at the house...after he gets the truck fixed and everyone leaves and he is in the truck pissed off...his entire speech is about how it is up to he and Clem to save AJ...and Wellington is the only way that AJ will survive...people like Jane...she does not understand what we understand(in a nutshell...that's manipulating an 11 year old and inviting her to the grownup seat in a play to get her from wanting to go back to Howes(The only place they know where it is at that has the formula)
Um, yeah, I agree. I've always said that there isn't any justification for what he did there. It was wrong, plain and simple. I was just explaining why he had acted how he did. He believed that Lee had put his family at risk and due to his stubborn nature, he couldn't look past it.
I like Kenny, but like you, I won't deny that he can be a right dick.
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This is quite possibly the most pathetic post I've ever seen on this forum. Imagining harboring this pent up anger and passive agressive attitude for more than 2 years purely because people have a different opinion than you when it comes to a fictional character in a video game. You have some growing up to do.
I'm flattered you took time out of your busy schedule to make it and that my opinion of a character affected you so personally you had to, and still have to act like a petulant child whenever faced with any form of differing opinion from others.
I'd Also just like to say that RAAAAAR at the end was excellent, typed up like a true butthurt crusader.
Kenny was kind of verbally abusive in season 2 (especially after Sarita had died) but he definitely redeemed himself in S3.
Abusive to the ones that deserved it
I'm all for other people's opinion, but being insulted isn't something I'm particularly fond of, especially when it's uncalled for from someone who takes joke posts far too seriously.
But my, baiting 3 people so far off of a gif I made well over a year ago... I can't tell in this instance who the pathetic ones are.
Maybe it isn't the gif but the attitude that comes with it which is fucking annoying
Sorry my opinion and jokes hurt your feelings... oh wait, no I'm not.
But they didn't? again I said your attitude is really annoying not your, quote on quote, jokes, example being what you just said.
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Sorry for intruding (and I probably don't know the whole story) but Everyone'sClemInTime can hate Kenny if they want to. I like Kenny but he definitely isn't the most flawless character in the game. No need to insult them over their opinion.