Well David got bitten in the neck so he automatic going die slow and just like Gabe getting a chump out of his wrist but you can tell he was fighting it until his uncle find him telltale writers was lazy with Kate thought
But doesn't everyone already have the virus? Sort of. Isn't that what we found out after the whole CDC/Atlanta episode? We die, we turn int… moreo zombies. We get bitten and that can cause us to die, too, and makes zombies out of us. Maybe it isn't the zombie virus that kills us if we get scratched or bitten but some other bacteria or something carried by the decomposing corpses that is what actually kills people.
Really? I mean, ANF has a lot to be criticized over, but this is not one of them. The time it takes to turn into a walker varies, and honestly, it looks like people are just reaching for reasons to shit on this game.
No, its not "bullshit". Reanimate process can take amount of time between a couple of minutes and 8 hours after you died. It depends on the human body. The only reason Lee didnt die with infection + blood loss(determinant) eventually and hang on a couple of hours is plot convenience. Without medical help, Lee would not be able to survive that long but here we are.
No, its not "bullshit". Reanimate process can take amount of time between a couple of minutes and 8 hours after you died. It depends on the … morehuman body. The only reason Lee didnt die with infection + blood loss(determinant) eventually and hang on a couple of hours is plot convenience. Without medical help, Lee would not be able to survive that long but here we are.
Well David got bitten in the neck so he automatic going die slow and just like Gabe getting a chump out of his wrist but you can tell he was fighting it until his uncle find him telltale writers was lazy with Kate thought
I'm agreeing with the majority of people here: it depends on what kind of injury/bite they sustained.
Lee and Pete were only bitten on the wrist/leg, which took time for the infection to start spreading which is why they went hours without turning.
Greg and Randall turned quickly because they died as soon as they received their injury.
As for Gabe and David, I'm sure they would've turned in the next 10 minutes because they got a huge chunk of their body bitten off (Gabe on his wrist and David on his neck) and the amount of blood they were losing from it.
So Kate most likely either died from internal bleeding due to her previous wound, blunt head trauma, or was bitten somewhere we wouldn't be able to see.
That seemed like a plot convenience as well because they spend like 12 hours so doesnt seem possible at all. I said 8 hours because in TV show, CDC doctor told the time amount about reanimation. Considering it has similarities with comics, we can assume that it is valid for comic(also game) universe as well.
Even until this day, people are still trying to find a way to complain about this game, we dont know for sure what killed her, maybe she died from her injury or blood loss, then after she died... she turned. How long does it take for a person to turn after they are already dead? it depends but it cant be that long. Lee didnt turned inmediately because he was still alive and he didnt had any other injurie or disease.
I don't watch the show, so I have no context. There's also the fact that Lee was consistently moving around during the day he was bitten, while Pete limped to an abandoned convoy in the woods and stayed there until it got dark. So while the time periods aren't that much far apart from each other, there's the matter of circulation to take into account.
That seemed like a plot convenience as well because they spend like 12 hours so doesnt seem possible at all. I said 8 hours because in TV sh… moreow, CDC doctor told the time amount about reanimation. Considering it has similarities with comics, we can assume that it is valid for comic(also game) universe as well.
Like MetalicaRules said, ANF has so many flaws but Kate being a Walker is not one at all.
We never see how Kate dies, we just know something happened to her, we dont know if she was bit or if even a random bullet hit her by accident.
I don't watch the show, so I have no context. There's also the fact that Lee was consistently moving around during the day he was bitten, wh… moreile Pete limped to an abandoned convoy in the woods and stayed there until it got dark. So while the time periods aren't that much far apart from each other, there's the matter of circulation to take into account.
The point still stands that Lee was constantly on the move and occasionally straininghimself with the bite possibly being closer to his heart while Pete, hobbling or not, had the bite in a further area and sat around for most of his remaining hours.
fact that Lee was consistently moving around during the day he was bitten, while Pete limped
Lee was only bit in the wrist and still had to find Clementine. Pete was bit on his ankle so it was hard for him to run/walk.
I think it comes down to how much they bite off. The walker that bit Lee barely took a chunk out of him. The walker that bit Pete took a chunk out of his ankle, then the amount of blood he probably lost by that made him turn faster.
The point still stands that Lee was constantly on the move and occasionally straininghimself with the bite possibly being closer to his heart while Pete, hobbling or not, had the bite in a further area and sat around for most of his remaining hours.
Actually, I believe Pete might've lasted longer than Lee: Lee was bitten early in the morning before finally falling in the jewelry store that evening/night; Pete was bite fairly early in the morning and used himself as a distraction when their attempt to sneak away failed during what is implied to be sometime before sunrise.
I think it comes down to how much they bite off. The walker that bit Lee barely took a chunk out of him. The walker that bit Pete took a chunk out of his ankle, then the amount of blood he probably lost by that made him turn faster.
The OP is obviously mixing up the time it takes for a bite to kill with reanimation time after death. He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question.
It seems like people are just reaching out for reasons to shit on ANF crtics.
Really? I mean, ANF has a lot to be criticized over, but this is not one of them. The time it takes to turn into a walker varies, and honestly, it looks like people are just reaching for reasons to shit on this game.
If Kate was bitten in a non vital way, like in the arm or something, you have a point. It should take at least a few hours if I recall for a bite to kill.
Thing is, we don't even know if Kate was bitten to begin with. I couldn't spot any bites at least, and you'd think it'd be visible, not to mention bloody. I asked how she died on the AMA and got no answer, which kinda implies Telltale themselves didn't even put thought into it. They were clearly too lazy to add a bite (a visible bite preferably) or something to Kate's walker model (and please, do correct me if there is a bite).
At least with Nick's off screen death they took the time to fill the whole scenery with hints on how Nick ended up stuck on the fence and bit by adding a blood trail, a bloody walker etc.
With Kate though, it seems as if she just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of singlehandedly patching the breach, which should definitely be impossible to do on her own, but whatever.
They were clearly too lazy to add a bite (a visible bite preferably) or something to Kate's walker model
Which is weird considering they went out of their way to make her walker look very different from any other walker, particularly by giving it red eyes.
At least with Nick's off screen death they took the time to fill the whole scenery with hints on how Nick ended up stuck on the fence and bit by adding a blood trail, a bloody walker etc.
Agreed
With Kate though, it seems as if she just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of singlehandedly patching the breach, which should definitely be impossible to do on her own, but whatever.
She just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of single-handedly patching the breach presumably using a bulldozer-thing that's not visible in the area her walker is hanging out in after somehow driving it into Richmond without opening the gates, meaning the random ass knights on horseback were sitting out there spinning their wheels for quite some time instead of trying to find another way in.
....
That ending sucks.
If Kate was bitten in a non vital way, like in the arm or something, you have a point. It should take at least a few hours if I recall for a… more bite to kill.
Thing is, we don't even know if Kate was bitten to begin with. I couldn't spot any bites at least, and you'd think it'd be visible, not to mention bloody. I asked how she died on the AMA and got no answer, which kinda implies Telltale themselves didn't even put thought into it. They were clearly too lazy to add a bite (a visible bite preferably) or something to Kate's walker model (and please, do correct me if there is a bite).
At least with Nick's off screen death they took the time to fill the whole scenery with hints on how Nick ended up stuck on the fence and bit by adding a blood trail, a bloody walker etc.
With Kate though, it seems as if she just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of singlehandedly patching the breach, which should definitely be impossible to do on her own, but whatever.
They were clearly too lazy to add a bite (a visible bite preferably) or something to Kate's walker model
Which is weird considering … morethey went out of their way to make her walker look very different from any other walker, particularly by giving it red eyes.
At least with Nick's off screen death they took the time to fill the whole scenery with hints on how Nick ended up stuck on the fence and bit by adding a blood trail, a bloody walker etc.
Agreed
With Kate though, it seems as if she just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of singlehandedly patching the breach, which should definitely be impossible to do on her own, but whatever.
She just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of single-handedly patching the breach presumably using a bulldozer-thing that's not visible in the area her walker is hanging out in after somehow driving it into Richmond without opening the gates, meanin… [view original content]
I haven't even touched that fucking episode since the day I downloaded it because of shit like that, Gabe being determinant at the last minute(what was the fucking point, ya copout?), and most importantly, Clementine being a glorified save file corruption if you want a specific ending.
This sounds incredibly stupid but when Javi is looking for her and she is walking around the walkers I thought she was trying to sneak past them and that the walkers would see her and try to attack her which Javi Gabe and Clementine save her. i know it sounds silly
That probably would've been a more thoughtful way to go about that ending, honestly. Given how she was worfed and increasingly neglected throughout the story and all.
This sounds incredibly stupid but when Javi is looking for her and she is walking around the walkers I thought she was trying to sneak past … morethem and that the walkers would see her and try to attack her which Javi Gabe and Clementine save her. i know it sounds silly
It is a pretty silly idea though. I am happy with ANF only problems I had were glitches and how quickly Kenny was killed. In my opinion ANF was pretty good and Kates death shocked me hard
That probably would've been a more thoughtful way to go about that ending, honestly. Given how she was worfed and increasingly neglected throughout the story and all.
It is a pretty silly idea though. I am happy with ANF only problems I had were glitches and how quickly Kenny was killed. In my opinion ANF was pretty good and Kates death shocked me hard
It would make sense that Pete might've lasted longer than Lee. His bite was further away from vital organs, so the infection that kills probably took longer to reach them. All in all, it does vary per person as to how long it takes to turn - even from bites. You have to take into account immune system variances, circulatory obstructions, relative health at the time of infection.
Dead bodies per the universe can also vary in how swiftly they turn. Some can reanimate a few seconds/minutes upon death. A few remain dead long enough to be buried or burned. Not everything inside you dies the instant that you die. We're a host of living things. All in all, there are too many variables to adequately predict how long it will take an individual to become a walker.
Actually, I believe Pete might've lasted longer than Lee: Lee was bitten early in the morning before finally falling in the jewelry store th… moreat evening/night; Pete was bite fairly early in the morning and used himself as a distraction when their attempt to sneak away failed during what is implied to be sometime before sunrise.
To be fair, you can turn into a walker varies. Considering other things such as Kate being shot (and still recovering), still regaining all that lost blood, and the fact that she could have been bitten multiple times (I mean we don't really know, I would have at least liked to see her clothes scratched, torn up, and whatnot, it's very easy to believe that she could have turned.
I mean look at stuff like Season 1 and Season 2 or even Michonne.
In Season 1, Travis/the Professor turn pretty quickly and I doubt it took anything more than an hour for Lee and the others to get back to the motel during 'Starved For Help'.
In Season 2, Arvo's sister is shot and turns in under a minute during the shootout.
And in Michonne, Greg is shot, bleeds out and dies, and turns in minutes also.
"He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question", he says on a thread where the OP criticises the season and puts the season's quality into question.
Also literally nobody has ever shit on any of the ANF critics?
The OP is obviously mixing up the time it takes for a bite to kill with reanimation time after death. He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question.
It seems like people are just reaching out for reasons to shit on ANF crtics.
It would make sense that Pete might've lasted longer than Lee. His bite was further away from vital organs, so the infection that kills prob… moreably took longer to reach them. All in all, it does vary per person as to how long it takes to turn - even from bites. You have to take into account immune system variances, circulatory obstructions, relative health at the time of infection.
Dead bodies per the universe can also vary in how swiftly they turn. Some can reanimate a few seconds/minutes upon death. A few remain dead long enough to be buried or burned. Not everything inside you dies the instant that you die. We're a host of living things. All in all, there are too many variables to adequately predict how long it will take an individual to become a walker.
In Season 2, Arvo's sister is shot and turns in under a minute during the shootout.
She actually lasted for several minutes because Arvo was performing CPR on her and thus keeping the oxygen flowing. Kenny taking Arvo hostage put a stop to that and thus she turned within the next 15 or so seconds.
To be fair, you can turn into a walker varies. Considering other things such as Kate being shot (and still recovering), still regaining all … morethat lost blood, and the fact that she could have been bitten multiple times (I mean we don't really know, I would have at least liked to see her clothes scratched, torn up, and whatnot, it's very easy to believe that she could have turned.
I mean look at stuff like Season 1 and Season 2 or even Michonne.
In Season 1, Travis/the Professor turn pretty quickly and I doubt it took anything more than an hour for Lee and the others to get back to the motel during 'Starved For Help'.
In Season 2, Arvo's sister is shot and turns in under a minute during the shootout.
And in Michonne, Greg is shot, bleeds out and dies, and turns in minutes also.
"He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question", he says on a thread where the OP criticises the season and puts the season's
The OP is obviously confused about one concept in one of the endings. He doesn't bring anything else but that very concept on this thread and even asks by the end what everyone else thinks. Sure if this was something along the lines "Kate reanimated too fast! Yet another plot hole in this shitty season." then that would be bringing the overall season's quality into question. But this is simply questioning a small part of the season while asking for clearance to other people on the matter.
And that is, not surprisingly, being yet again deemed as "irrational people seeking to shit even more on ANF!!!"
Also literally nobody has ever shit on any of the ANF critics?
Yes, you've clearly read every post on this very forum since the very day ANF released.
My experience on the forums for the past few months seems to differ greatly from yours. I recall the term "negative nancies" being used to refer to ANF critics, for example. I recall people claiming that such critics have simply been ignoring the other side's points, being stubborn irrational, "crybabies". I recall people ridiculizing ANF critics for using sales/steam reviews as a means of validating the point that the game is not as good as its predecessors to the overall public.
I can probably find such posts for you. Just ask, I'll DM them.
"He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question", he says on a thread where the OP criticises the season and puts the season's quality into question.
Also literally nobody has ever shit on any of the ANF critics?
Okay, bringing something into question can however be a form of criticism.
Secondly, that argument doesn't make sense. I never claimed to be the "know it all" of the forums and don't think so. Considering the fact that almost every thread during/since Season 3 has been negative and most people are unhappy with Telltale (even in the Steam reviews), I have no idea where this is coming from.
You can't really say, "Yes, you've clearly read every post on this very forum since the very day ANF released" when I can just as easily say the same back to you?
In fact MetallicaRules wasn't even shitting on anybody, you just got really defensive over it, so that's your problem, not mine
"He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question", he says on a thread where the OP criticises the season and puts the season's
… more
The OP is obviously confused about one concept in one of the endings. He doesn't bring anything else but that very concept on this thread and even asks by the end what everyone else thinks. Sure if this was something along the lines "Kate reanimated too fast! Yet another plot hole in this shitty season." then that would be bringing the overall season's quality into question. But this is simply questioning a small part of the season while asking for clearance to other people on the matter.
And that is, not surprisingly, being yet again deemed as "irrational people seeking to shit even more on ANF!!!"
Also literally nobody has ever shit on any of the ANF critics?
Yes, you've clearly read every post on this very forum since the very day ANF released.
My experience on the forums for the… [view original content]
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Well David got bitten in the neck so he automatic going die slow and just like Gabe getting a chump out of his wrist but you can tell he was fighting it until his uncle find him telltale writers was lazy with Kate thought
And if you have wound and didn't cure it, you'll turn.
Really? I mean, ANF has a lot to be criticized over, but this is not one of them. The time it takes to turn into a walker varies, and honestly, it looks like people are just reaching for reasons to shit on this game.
in TWD: Michonne, that girls brother (forget their names) turned in like 5 mins. it depends on the person i think.
That's because Greg was fatally shot and thus died within seconds, which in turn lead to him turning in seconds.
I would pick lazy option.
No, its not "bullshit". Reanimate process can take amount of time between a couple of minutes and 8 hours after you died. It depends on the human body. The only reason Lee didnt die with infection + blood loss(determinant) eventually and hang on a couple of hours is plot convenience. Without medical help, Lee would not be able to survive that long but here we are.
Pete also survived a similar amount of time if you ran to him.
How's it lazy? If anything it's not lazy because her death would be the exact same as Gabe and David's otherwise
In that case the max time may be around 12 hours and the min time around 30 mins-1 hour
I'm agreeing with the majority of people here: it depends on what kind of injury/bite they sustained.
Lee and Pete were only bitten on the wrist/leg, which took time for the infection to start spreading which is why they went hours without turning.
Greg and Randall turned quickly because they died as soon as they received their injury.
As for Gabe and David, I'm sure they would've turned in the next 10 minutes because they got a huge chunk of their body bitten off (Gabe on his wrist and David on his neck) and the amount of blood they were losing from it.
So Kate most likely either died from internal bleeding due to her previous wound, blunt head trauma, or was bitten somewhere we wouldn't be able to see.
i dont think it works like that but then again u could be right
That seemed like a plot convenience as well because they spend like 12 hours so doesnt seem possible at all. I said 8 hours because in TV show, CDC doctor told the time amount about reanimation. Considering it has similarities with comics, we can assume that it is valid for comic(also game) universe as well.
I think she was so stupid she tripped over and broke her neck and turned in like an hour.
Even until this day, people are still trying to find a way to complain about this game, we dont know for sure what killed her, maybe she died from her injury or blood loss, then after she died... she turned. How long does it take for a person to turn after they are already dead? it depends but it cant be that long. Lee didnt turned inmediately because he was still alive and he didnt had any other injurie or disease.
I don't watch the show, so I have no context. There's also the fact that Lee was consistently moving around during the day he was bitten, while Pete limped to an abandoned convoy in the woods and stayed there until it got dark. So while the time periods aren't that much far apart from each other, there's the matter of circulation to take into account.
Like MetalicaRules said, ANF has so many flaws but Kate being a Walker is not one at all.
We never see how Kate dies, we just know something happened to her, we dont know if she was bit or if even a random bullet hit her by accident.
I doubt it was this one since the New Frontier had more or less retreated by that point, but whatever.
Lee was only bit in the wrist and still had to find Clementine. Pete was bit on his ankle so it was hard for him to run/walk.
The point still stands that Lee was constantly on the move and occasionally straininghimself with the bite possibly being closer to his heart while Pete, hobbling or not, had the bite in a further area and sat around for most of his remaining hours.
I think it comes down to how much they bite off. The walker that bit Lee barely took a chunk out of him. The walker that bit Pete took a chunk out of his ankle, then the amount of blood he probably lost by that made him turn faster.
Actually, I believe Pete might've lasted longer than Lee: Lee was bitten early in the morning before finally falling in the jewelry store that evening/night; Pete was bite fairly early in the morning and used himself as a distraction when their attempt to sneak away failed during what is implied to be sometime before sunrise.
The OP is obviously mixing up the time it takes for a bite to kill with reanimation time after death. He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question.
It seems like people are just reaching out for reasons to shit on ANF crtics.
If Kate was bitten in a non vital way, like in the arm or something, you have a point. It should take at least a few hours if I recall for a bite to kill.
Thing is, we don't even know if Kate was bitten to begin with. I couldn't spot any bites at least, and you'd think it'd be visible, not to mention bloody. I asked how she died on the AMA and got no answer, which kinda implies Telltale themselves didn't even put thought into it. They were clearly too lazy to add a bite (a visible bite preferably) or something to Kate's walker model (and please, do correct me if there is a bite).
At least with Nick's off screen death they took the time to fill the whole scenery with hints on how Nick ended up stuck on the fence and bit by adding a blood trail, a bloody walker etc.
With Kate though, it seems as if she just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of singlehandedly patching the breach, which should definitely be impossible to do on her own, but whatever.
Which is weird considering they went out of their way to make her walker look very different from any other walker, particularly by giving it red eyes.
Agreed
She just had a stroke right after doing the impossible task of single-handedly patching the breach presumably using a bulldozer-thing that's not visible in the area her walker is hanging out in after somehow driving it into Richmond without opening the gates, meaning the random ass knights on horseback were sitting out there spinning their wheels for quite some time instead of trying to find another way in.
....
That ending sucks.
Execution wise, definitely. Doesn't help that it was my ending.
Well Damn.
I haven't even touched that fucking episode since the day I downloaded it because of shit like that, Gabe being determinant at the last minute(what was the fucking point, ya copout?), and most importantly, Clementine being a glorified save file corruption if you want a specific ending.
This sounds incredibly stupid but when Javi is looking for her and she is walking around the walkers I thought she was trying to sneak past them and that the walkers would see her and try to attack her which Javi Gabe and Clementine save her. i know it sounds silly
Why not ask alyssa from telltale how Kate would have died. I am sure she would have the answers.
That probably would've been a more thoughtful way to go about that ending, honestly. Given how she was worfed and increasingly neglected throughout the story and all.
It is a pretty silly idea though. I am happy with ANF only problems I had were glitches and how quickly Kenny was killed. In my opinion ANF was pretty good and Kates death shocked me hard
Also another problem was there was not that many hubs where you could talk to characters but I still enjoyed NF nonetheless
It would make sense that Pete might've lasted longer than Lee. His bite was further away from vital organs, so the infection that kills probably took longer to reach them. All in all, it does vary per person as to how long it takes to turn - even from bites. You have to take into account immune system variances, circulatory obstructions, relative health at the time of infection.
Dead bodies per the universe can also vary in how swiftly they turn. Some can reanimate a few seconds/minutes upon death. A few remain dead long enough to be buried or burned. Not everything inside you dies the instant that you die. We're a host of living things. All in all, there are too many variables to adequately predict how long it will take an individual to become a walker.
To be fair, you can turn into a walker varies. Considering other things such as Kate being shot (and still recovering), still regaining all that lost blood, and the fact that she could have been bitten multiple times (I mean we don't really know, I would have at least liked to see her clothes scratched, torn up, and whatnot, it's very easy to believe that she could have turned.
I mean look at stuff like Season 1 and Season 2 or even Michonne.
In Season 1, Travis/the Professor turn pretty quickly and I doubt it took anything more than an hour for Lee and the others to get back to the motel during 'Starved For Help'.
In Season 2, Arvo's sister is shot and turns in under a minute during the shootout.
And in Michonne, Greg is shot, bleeds out and dies, and turns in minutes also.
"He doesn't even put the Season's quality into question", he says on a thread where the OP criticises the season and puts the season's quality into question.
Also literally nobody has ever shit on any of the ANF critics?
I know. That's what I was trying to get across: you can last up to a full day with just a bite.
She actually lasted for several minutes because Arvo was performing CPR on her and thus keeping the oxygen flowing. Kenny taking Arvo hostage put a stop to that and thus she turned within the next 15 or so seconds.
The OP is obviously confused about one concept in one of the endings. He doesn't bring anything else but that very concept on this thread and even asks by the end what everyone else thinks. Sure if this was something along the lines "Kate reanimated too fast! Yet another plot hole in this shitty season." then that would be bringing the overall season's quality into question. But this is simply questioning a small part of the season while asking for clearance to other people on the matter.
And that is, not surprisingly, being yet again deemed as "irrational people seeking to shit even more on ANF!!!"
Yes, you've clearly read every post on this very forum since the very day ANF released.
My experience on the forums for the past few months seems to differ greatly from yours. I recall the term "negative nancies" being used to refer to ANF critics, for example. I recall people claiming that such critics have simply been ignoring the other side's points, being stubborn irrational, "crybabies". I recall people ridiculizing ANF critics for using sales/steam reviews as a means of validating the point that the game is not as good as its predecessors to the overall public.
I can probably find such posts for you. Just ask, I'll DM them.
It's good she turned that quick, didn't like her anyway. No but for real xD i never thought about this, but it's kind of questionable
Okay, bringing something into question can however be a form of criticism.
Secondly, that argument doesn't make sense. I never claimed to be the "know it all" of the forums and don't think so. Considering the fact that almost every thread during/since Season 3 has been negative and most people are unhappy with Telltale (even in the Steam reviews), I have no idea where this is coming from.
You can't really say, "Yes, you've clearly read every post on this very forum since the very day ANF released" when I can just as easily say the same back to you?
In fact MetallicaRules wasn't even shitting on anybody, you just got really defensive over it, so that's your problem, not mine